At this point its basically a slur against anyone with a drawl
No it's a perfect synonym for a idiot redneck which Sarah Palin (whom does not speak with a drawl) most certainly is.
Ok well
I am telling you, as a southerner, that it is very often used as a slur against people from the south and I would appreciate it if you didn't use it
It is of course your right to ignore that but its become a pretty hurtful word in the past 5 or 6 years
Y'know, I'll agree with you that it sucks to be called a hick or a redneck cause you got some twang. And I agree that it does write off a very broad group of people in a geographical location and I've made the very same argument as you have
But if Palin isn't a hick, she's certainly a slack-jawed yokel
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It would just be nice not to bring regional or non-urban stereotypes into it that's all
i agree!
You know what this reminded me of though? I know there has been some talk of the white equivalent of BET in earlier pages, and we have that. It's called CMT. And CMT has the worst offerings of reality tv that glorify redneck stupidity at its best.
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At this point its basically a slur against anyone with a drawl
No it's a perfect synonym for a idiot redneck which Sarah Palin (whom does not speak with a drawl) most certainly is.
Ok well
I am telling you, as a southerner, that it is very often used as a slur against people from the south and I would appreciate it if you didn't use it
It is of course your right to ignore that but its become a pretty hurtful word in the past 5 or 6 years
Not particularly fond of it as an Appalachian person either.
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It's a pretty lazy insult as insults go and doesn't exactly carry a lot weight behind it. 'Slur' is pretty fucking reaching.
Speaking as a dude who has basically lived in Alabama all his life.
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I think American to American in America it doesnt carry much weight, but if any other nationality said it to an American it would be considered a slur. On my vacation in Europe there were a few kids from Australia who used it and made fun of the way the Americans talked in the group. I considered that offensive.
Palin seems like a thin shell of friendliness wrapped around a dense core of toxicity.
that's a good analogy for the american south. friendly on the outside, because the threat of violence is so close to the surface.
That's like me saying that all New Yorkers are rude and Death Wish is a documentary
So, no, not a good analogy
firstly no it's not, and secondly that is definitely how at least the parts I have experience with work. you have to watch yourself because if you slight someone you will pay for it. small town arkansas... I'll never go back, I can say that much.
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As someone who lives in small town Arkansas I think that's a slight exaggeration. It definitely exists in certain circles sure. But to say it's the general attitude is a bit much.
Now weaponizing niceties? "Well bless your heart," can be uttered with more acid than almost any insult.
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Palin seems like a thin shell of friendliness wrapped around a dense core of toxicity.
that's a good analogy for the american south. friendly on the outside, because the threat of violence is so close to the surface.
That's like me saying that all New Yorkers are rude and Death Wish is a documentary
So, no, not a good analogy
I don't see how Death Wish comes into it, but New Yorkers are indeed frequently dirtbags who would sooner spit on you than give you directions to the nearest subway station.
the main story I remember(I was younger when I lived there) was a girl who wasn't from the south at the local college who got her ass kicked for some minor thing and no one thought much of it, because that's how things were
the main story I remember(I was younger when I lived there) was a girl who wasn't from the south at the local college who got her ass kicked for some minor thing and no one thought much of it, because that's how things were
I've lived in 4 different states in the south and this is definitely not "just how things are"
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Yeeaaaah. Like there's definitely violence in certain areas. Specifically ones around meth culture. But to say that's the norm is pretty not true. It's also generally avoidable.
the main story I remember(I was younger when I lived there) was a girl who wasn't from the south at the local college who got her ass kicked for some minor thing and no one thought much of it, because that's how things were
It's almost like violence over stupid shit can happen anywhere
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a slur is the thing that comes out of those machines at 7 eleven
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Is the stereorype of the south not one of great hospitality
the stereotype of the south is everyone is nice because if you're mean they'll tear your throat out
the stereotype of the north is everyone is mean because if you're nice they'll tear your throat out
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That is a prevalent stereotype, yes.
The degree to which I identify it with Christian "love" is probably partially my own problem.
At this point its basically a slur against anyone with a drawl
No it's a perfect synonym for a idiot redneck which Sarah Palin (whom does not speak with a drawl) most certainly is.
Ok well
I am telling you, as a southerner, that it is very often used as a slur against people from the south and I would appreciate it if you didn't use it
It is of course your right to ignore that but its become a pretty hurtful word in the past 5 or 6 years
You don't want to get in trouble with the long arm of the drawl.
But seriously I think hick is a fairly mild and inoffensive word. Were someone to call me a hick I'd probably laugh in their face at how lukewarm an insult it is. It's mostly just that people with strong southern drawls are stereotyped as being unintelligent/uneducated which is unfortunate but pretty separate from that one word. And I mean we don't have it as bad as folks that use AAVP.
Linguistic discrimination is still one of the biggest forms of discrimination in the US.
I still don't understand why Sanders has risen so high after I never heard of him in the decades before.
How many people had heard of Obama in, say, January '07?
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No it's a perfect synonym for a idiot redneck which Sarah Palin (whom does not speak with a drawl) most certainly is.
Ok well
I am telling you, as a southerner, that it is very often used as a slur against people from the south and I would appreciate it if you didn't use it
It is of course your right to ignore that but its become a pretty hurtful word in the past 5 or 6 years
Y'know, I'll agree with you that it sucks to be called a hick or a redneck cause you got some twang. And I agree that it does write off a very broad group of people in a geographical location and I've made the very same argument as you have
But if Palin isn't a hick, she's certainly a slack-jawed yokel
It would just be nice not to bring regional or non-urban stereotypes into it that's all
i agree!
You know what this reminded me of though? I know there has been some talk of the white equivalent of BET in earlier pages, and we have that. It's called CMT. And CMT has the worst offerings of reality tv that glorify redneck stupidity at its best.
Cus hick is kinda worn with pride around these parts. Hillbilly and redneck too.
Actually one of my favorite writers had a quote about it that I quite enjoy.
I have definitely heard hillbilly or redneck used with pride though
I once had a guy argue at me why he wasn't a redneck, when I'd called him white trash.
Which, while it carries some overlap, is not exactly a redneck synonym.
but a lipstick hillbilly
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that's a good analogy for the american south. friendly on the outside, because the threat of violence is so close to the surface.
Not particularly fond of it as an Appalachian person either.
Speaking as a dude who has basically lived in Alabama all his life.
A slur is a disparaging term toward a group of people
I'm not sure how its reaching
That's like me saying that all New Yorkers are rude and Death Wish is a documentary
So, no, not a good analogy
you can argue it's one without a lot of teeth but that's what it is
the dude in the white shirt on the right
How many people had heard of Obama in, say, January '07?
firstly no it's not, and secondly that is definitely how at least the parts I have experience with work. you have to watch yourself because if you slight someone you will pay for it. small town arkansas... I'll never go back, I can say that much.
Now weaponizing niceties? "Well bless your heart," can be uttered with more acid than almost any insult.
I don't see how Death Wish comes into it, but New Yorkers are indeed frequently dirtbags who would sooner spit on you than give you directions to the nearest subway station.
I've lived in 4 different states in the south and this is definitely not "just how things are"
It's almost like violence over stupid shit can happen anywhere
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
the stereotype of the south is everyone is nice because if you're mean they'll tear your throat out
the stereotype of the north is everyone is mean because if you're nice they'll tear your throat out
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
The degree to which I identify it with Christian "love" is probably partially my own problem.
There I solved it
But seriously I think hick is a fairly mild and inoffensive word. Were someone to call me a hick I'd probably laugh in their face at how lukewarm an insult it is. It's mostly just that people with strong southern drawls are stereotyped as being unintelligent/uneducated which is unfortunate but pretty separate from that one word. And I mean we don't have it as bad as folks that use AAVP.
Linguistic discrimination is still one of the biggest forms of discrimination in the US.
Everyone who watched this handsome African man give the keynote speech at the 2004 democratic national convention and read Jet Magazine.
I've heard the same thing about [bundle of sticks] but I'm not about to use that in public.
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