GoodKingJayIIIThey wanna get mygold on the ceilingRegistered Userregular
I haven't beaten the main game yet. I still have Nightmare of Mensis to push through, so I'm close. But I wanted to finish the DLC first because I understand it's a bear on NG+
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GoodKingJayIIIThey wanna get mygold on the ceilingRegistered Userregular
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Well I finished it.
I have no idea of what the story was at all. Fun though
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GoodKingJayIIIThey wanna get mygold on the ceilingRegistered Userregular
That bridge with the three Winter Lanterns in Nightmare of Mensis is really annoying. There's not really an easy way to kill those things with a skill weapon. None of my usual fast attacks can stunlock them, and the Church Pick doesn't seem to break poise as well as the Str weapons.
winter lanterns can only be staggered for a few seconds even with large weapons. if you have enough damage, it might be enough, but more likely you'll need to dodge the grab after a few hits. just make sure to dodge late; it has a long effective period. stack frenzy resist as much as possible, obviously. sedatives aren't super worth dealing with, imo. easier to just keep your health topped up and face tank the frenzy explosion. you need to watch your health though, because they have a rarer fast health tick down they can do, which can unexpectedly bring you below the health threshold for survival.
technically you can parry and time a visceral to take the frenzy damage during i-frames, but fuck setting that bullshit up.
My method for dealing with Winter Lanterns is to run up on them quickly, do either a regular or full charged attack (whichever it takes to make them flinch from it), then just R1 mash them to death before they can recover long enough to finish their grab attack. Obviously decked out in the Ashen Hunter gear except with the Crow mask on and also wearing a frenzy rune.
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Mojo_JojoWe are only now beginning to understand the full power and ramifications of sexual intercourseRegistered Userregular
So reading around the plot I understand the setting a bit more now but I'm still baffled about what role the main character had
why does the first hunter make you a hunter? What does he want you to do? Why does he then try to kill you? Also becoming an one one in the three umbilical cord ending seems to come out of nowhere
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So reading around the plot I understand the setting a bit more now but I'm still baffled about what role the main character had
why does the first hunter make you a hunter? What does he want you to do? Why does he then try to kill you? Also becoming an one one in the three umbilical cord ending seems to come out of nowhere
Basically what I understand after reading up on it, plus beating the game and listening to some others talk about it.
You, the MC, actually come to Yharnam searching for Paleblood to end the Hunt. The note at the start is clearly written by you/theMC in the original Japanese version. The blood minister in the opening cutscene even says you came to him looking for Paleblood, before anyone or anything else mentions it. So you wanted to become a Hunter, you just immediately lose your memory as soon as you get the blood ministration and begin the game. Gerhman is being forced to do everything by the Moon Presence. He and it want you to wipe out some of the beasts and bring back Blood Echoes and Insight. If you submit to him, then he kills you in the dream, unbinds you from it, and takes everything from you for the Moon Presence.
If you fight, you kill him and free him, then the Moon Presence comes down and tries to suck out all of your Blood/Insight directly. Either it drains you and you take Gehrman's place, luring in new Hunters for it to use and throw away, or you've use the umbilical cords and have evolved into something it can't overpower. You kill it, absorb everything from it instead, and that's enough to turn you into a full new Old One creature.
Then there's the subplot/theory that the Doll is actually behind everything, and is grooming you to become that slug, because she's another type of Old One. And they're always looking for new surrogate children...
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
IIRC, there's nothing of much value on the bridge itself, so you can just run through
GoodKingJayIIIThey wanna get mygold on the ceilingRegistered Userregular
Yeah, I mean you can farm them for blood gems, but that's not something I absolutely need to do. Mostly I was just kind of annoyed by how easily they kill me.
Mergo's Wetnurse down. She might have hit me once? I don't remember. It was a shockingly easy fight.
IIRC, there's nothing of much value on the bridge itself, so you can just run through
Otherwise, try parrying their lunge
That's not technically true. They drop some fantastic gems at a pretty good clip.
Load up on frenzy resist, drop your insight, and parry them. The window's a bit late, but with enough resist you can pretty easily escape thier grab and chug a sedative before you frenzy.
GoodKingJayIIIThey wanna get mygold on the ceilingRegistered Userregular
And beaten. Such a cool game. Haven't really organized my thoughts in a cohesive way yet, but I feel good saying that this is one of the best games I have ever played.
I finished the game BL ~90 or so, with +10 Rakuyo and +10 Church Pick. I felt incredibly powerful at the end of the game. The last few boss fights were not difficult at all. I may have been overleveled for the content, but I think at least some of it was the DLC forcing me to "get gud."
I'm still pretty bad, but I felt a lot more confidence in my abilities after completing the DLC.
Yeah, I think I finished the game at lvl 115 or something, leveled like mad doing some of the chalices. The last couple story bosses were way too easy at that point. Less so the DLC bosses, but fuck that Laurence guy.
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GoodKingJayIIIThey wanna get mygold on the ceilingRegistered Userregular
I actually did not fight Laurence. I left some things undone in the DLC and a few odds and ends in vanilla because I was eager to get on with the finale.
I'm going to go back and do him on my Str/Arc character.
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GoodKingJayIIIThey wanna get mygold on the ceilingRegistered Userregular
Went to fight Laurence on my second character. "Oh, this doesn't seem so bad" I think to myself.
Playing with the Bowblade makes me feel I'm playing a completely different game. It's a lot of fun. While not good at everything it's brutal for certain opponents and it makes you feel like a serious badass at times.
Finally solo'd Ebreitas. She was a real sticking point on my first playthrough, and it felt amazing to go back and take her down without assistance this time through. Now, if I could do the same for the goddamn Orphan...
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Playing with the Bowblade makes me feel I'm playing a completely different game. It's a lot of fun. While not good at everything it's brutal for certain opponents and it makes you feel like a serious badass at times.
Finally solo'd Ebreitas. She was a real sticking point on my first playthrough, and it felt amazing to go back and take her down without assistance this time through. Now, if I could do the same for the goddamn Orphan...
I spent maybe 20 deaths just learning the timings for Orphan. Even when I finally killed him I made a lot of mistakes, but it made a difference. I basically hugged his left (your right) side to stay inside his wide swinging attacks, and I would parry the slower, closer attacks. He's so crazy in his second phase, I just spent a lot of time dodging him and getting in hits where I could.
Ebrietas, interestingly, is giving me a lot of trouble on my str/arc character. My skill character demolished her with the church pick and lightning paper. She seems a lot more resilient to the moonlight sword attacks.
Finally got a PS4 in preparation for DS3 and I picked up Bloodborne with it.
Holy shit am I having fun! Cane is love. Cane is life. I'm wrecking shit and getting wrecked by shit.
I one-shot Cleric Beast and Father Gascoigne and two-shot Blood-Starved Beast. Got the cane to +5 and have the way to Amelia open to me.
But for now I'm exploring as much as I can. I went to the right of Amelia's area, killed two hunters, got crushed by a invisible thing and then lost 21k blood trying to get back there. I still have a ton to explore before Amelia. I think I've found the entrance to Hemwick. I got kidnapped and can mess around in Bagman land too. But that place is scary because I do so little damage to them.
Finally got a PS4 in preparation for DS3 and I picked up Bloodborne with it.
Holy shit am I having fun! Cane is love. Cane is life. I'm wrecking shit and getting wrecked by shit.
I one-shot Cleric Beast and Father Gascoigne and two-shot Blood-Starved Beast. Got the cane to +5 and have the way to Amelia open to me.
But for now I'm exploring as much as I can. I went to the right of Amelia's area, killed two hunters, got crushed by a invisible thing and then lost 21k blood trying to get back there. I still have a ton to explore before Amelia. I think I've found the entrance to Hemwick. I got kidnapped and can mess around in Bagman land too. But that place is scary because I do so little damage to them.
Starting from the lamp in Unseen Village, you can trigger one of the bagman and then head down the spiral stairs. He'll start following you but he can't fit below the overhang, so you can kinda cheese him to death if you're careful. They drop twin shards with regularity if you want to get that cane to +6.
Every weapon will take you to the end game. They all have unique purpose or use. Since you're probably going Skill for the cane, if you have the DLC you might be interested in the church pick for a heavy-hitting alternative to complement the cane.
Anybody have a feeling of when to tackle the DLC here? Beat Bloodborne on NG and NG+ a couple times when it launched but didn't feel like doing the DLC until now. Made a new character who is going to use the moonlight sword, and just bee-lined to kill the first 5 bosses or so. After killing Amelia I'm probably about SL40. I dipped into the DLC and got the immediate feeling that it's not at all meant to be tackled here, unless you're really wanting a heavy challenge.
First enemy in there took like 2 parry viscerals plus several more attacks to kill, then some dogs took like 6 or 7 R1s to kill. Right now I've been pumping VIT and just got the minimum stats to use the holy blade, so I don't have much invested in offense, and of course my Hunter's Axe is only +6 because there's no chunks this early in the game.
I'd really like to get the moonlight sword asap, but am I going to hate myself if I try to make my way to its location in the DLC without levelling up and doing more damage first?
Anybody have a feeling of when to tackle the DLC here? Beat Bloodborne on NG and NG+ a couple times when it launched but didn't feel like doing the DLC until now. Made a new character who is going to use the moonlight sword, and just bee-lined to kill the first 5 bosses or so. After killing Amelia I'm probably about SL40. I dipped into the DLC and got the immediate feeling that it's not at all meant to be tackled here, unless you're really wanting a heavy challenge.
First enemy in there took like 2 parry viscerals plus several more attacks to kill, then some dogs took like 6 or 7 R1s to kill. Right now I've been pumping VIT and just got the minimum stats to use the holy blade, so I don't have much invested in offense, and of course my Hunter's Axe is only +6 because there's no chunks this early in the game.
I'd really like to get the moonlight sword asap, but am I going to hate myself if I try to make my way to its location in the DLC without levelling up and doing more damage first?
I usually do the DLC late, like before killing Wet Nurse with a +9 weapon but that's just because I'm not good. You can technically do all the DLC as early as you want after Amelia but you gotta bring the skills to pay the bills.
Anybody have a feeling of when to tackle the DLC here? Beat Bloodborne on NG and NG+ a couple times when it launched but didn't feel like doing the DLC until now. Made a new character who is going to use the moonlight sword, and just bee-lined to kill the first 5 bosses or so. After killing Amelia I'm probably about SL40. I dipped into the DLC and got the immediate feeling that it's not at all meant to be tackled here, unless you're really wanting a heavy challenge.
First enemy in there took like 2 parry viscerals plus several more attacks to kill, then some dogs took like 6 or 7 R1s to kill. Right now I've been pumping VIT and just got the minimum stats to use the holy blade, so I don't have much invested in offense, and of course my Hunter's Axe is only +6 because there's no chunks this early in the game.
I'd really like to get the moonlight sword asap, but am I going to hate myself if I try to make my way to its location in the DLC without levelling up and doing more damage first?
The Holy Moonlight Sword is the reward for beating the first DLC boss. Once you get it there is plenty of DLC content (and end game content) to use this fantastic weapon. I used it with my DLC run and used the HMS to great effect through the rest of the DLC and the end of the main game. It has some great STR/SKL/ARC scaling.
As for what level to tackle the DLC at...I tried right after Amelia and go creamed. I went back at around Level 70+ after getting past Amygdala and The One Rebore and it was much easier. The first area of the DLC is the hardest, and the first boss is a boss you should definitely co-op if you can (even if just with an NPC).
Thanks. I'm not the guy who does the SL1 runs for fun. I'm fairly adept at these games, but after how the first few enemies felt in the DLC, I'm thinking I'll probably come back after I've invested 20 or 30 SLs into offensive stats. I just wanna snag the sword with a lot of game left to play, since I probably won't do NG+ with this character. Might finally get around to doing all the chalice dungeons i suppose.
Thanks. I'm not the guy who does the SL1 runs for fun. I'm fairly adept at these games, but after how the first few enemies felt in the DLC, I'm thinking I'll probably come back after I've invested 20 or 30 SLs into offensive stats. I just wanna snag the sword with a lot of game left to play, since I probably won't do NG+ with this character. Might finally get around to doing all the chalice dungeons i suppose.
Going back at that point sounds about right. SL70-80 is a good range for not getting flattened in the DLC but not breezing through it either.
Yeah, I know, I just hate the chalice dungeons. Never could bother to finish them to get the platinum, which I want to do eventually anyway. And yeah, if I want to maximize the effectiveness of the weapon i'll need gems from them.
So I'm kind of curious about chalice dungeons: are they supposed to be BS?
I'm effectively playing the unpatched launch version of the game due to some wifi issues at my house, but the chalice dungeons seem to be just stupidly hard and churn out almost nothing of any value; the last one I went into had a bell maiden spamming out spiders that two shot me.
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Fuck yeah. Great feeling.
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I have no idea of what the story was at all. Fun though
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technically you can parry and time a visceral to take the frenzy damage during i-frames, but fuck setting that bullshit up.
Basically what I understand after reading up on it, plus beating the game and listening to some others talk about it.
If you fight, you kill him and free him, then the Moon Presence comes down and tries to suck out all of your Blood/Insight directly. Either it drains you and you take Gehrman's place, luring in new Hunters for it to use and throw away, or you've use the umbilical cords and have evolved into something it can't overpower. You kill it, absorb everything from it instead, and that's enough to turn you into a full new Old One creature.
Then there's the subplot/theory that the Doll is actually behind everything, and is grooming you to become that slug, because she's another type of Old One. And they're always looking for new surrogate children...
Otherwise, try parrying their lunge
Mergo's Wetnurse down. She might have hit me once? I don't remember. It was a shockingly easy fight.
PSN: Threeve703
That's not technically true. They drop some fantastic gems at a pretty good clip.
Load up on frenzy resist, drop your insight, and parry them. The window's a bit late, but with enough resist you can pretty easily escape thier grab and chug a sedative before you frenzy.
I finished the game BL ~90 or so, with +10 Rakuyo and +10 Church Pick. I felt incredibly powerful at the end of the game. The last few boss fights were not difficult at all. I may have been overleveled for the content, but I think at least some of it was the DLC forcing me to "get gud."
I'm still pretty bad, but I felt a lot more confidence in my abilities after completing the DLC.
PSN: Threeve703
I'm going to go back and do him on my Str/Arc character.
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Kills me in two hits.
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Bowblade breaks the AI so bad it's actually funny
I spent maybe 20 deaths just learning the timings for Orphan. Even when I finally killed him I made a lot of mistakes, but it made a difference. I basically hugged his left (your right) side to stay inside his wide swinging attacks, and I would parry the slower, closer attacks. He's so crazy in his second phase, I just spent a lot of time dodging him and getting in hits where I could.
Ebrietas, interestingly, is giving me a lot of trouble on my str/arc character. My skill character demolished her with the church pick and lightning paper. She seems a lot more resilient to the moonlight sword attacks.
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you can demolish her in about 12 seconds if you have the timing down with viscerals, charged thrust attacks, and lightning damage
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With that, I feel like I've finally conquered the base game. Time to meditate and prepare for DS3.
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Well, fuck.
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Holy shit am I having fun! Cane is love. Cane is life. I'm wrecking shit and getting wrecked by shit.
I one-shot Cleric Beast and Father Gascoigne and two-shot Blood-Starved Beast. Got the cane to +5 and have the way to Amelia open to me.
But for now I'm exploring as much as I can. I went to the right of Amelia's area, killed two hunters, got crushed by a invisible thing and then lost 21k blood trying to get back there. I still have a ton to explore before Amelia. I think I've found the entrance to Hemwick. I got kidnapped and can mess around in Bagman land too. But that place is scary because I do so little damage to them.
if only I could be so grossly incanedacent
Starting from the lamp in Unseen Village, you can trigger one of the bagman and then head down the spiral stairs. He'll start following you but he can't fit below the overhang, so you can kinda cheese him to death if you're careful. They drop twin shards with regularity if you want to get that cane to +6.
Every weapon will take you to the end game. They all have unique purpose or use. Since you're probably going Skill for the cane, if you have the DLC you might be interested in the church pick for a heavy-hitting alternative to complement the cane.
PSN: Threeve703
First enemy in there took like 2 parry viscerals plus several more attacks to kill, then some dogs took like 6 or 7 R1s to kill. Right now I've been pumping VIT and just got the minimum stats to use the holy blade, so I don't have much invested in offense, and of course my Hunter's Axe is only +6 because there's no chunks this early in the game.
I'd really like to get the moonlight sword asap, but am I going to hate myself if I try to make my way to its location in the DLC without levelling up and doing more damage first?
I usually do the DLC late, like before killing Wet Nurse with a +9 weapon but that's just because I'm not good. You can technically do all the DLC as early as you want after Amelia but you gotta bring the skills to pay the bills.
The Holy Moonlight Sword is the reward for beating the first DLC boss. Once you get it there is plenty of DLC content (and end game content) to use this fantastic weapon. I used it with my DLC run and used the HMS to great effect through the rest of the DLC and the end of the main game. It has some great STR/SKL/ARC scaling.
As for what level to tackle the DLC at...I tried right after Amelia and go creamed. I went back at around Level 70+ after getting past Amygdala and The One Rebore and it was much easier. The first area of the DLC is the hardest, and the first boss is a boss you should definitely co-op if you can (even if just with an NPC).
Going back at that point sounds about right. SL70-80 is a good range for not getting flattened in the DLC but not breezing through it either.
I'm effectively playing the unpatched launch version of the game due to some wifi issues at my house, but the chalice dungeons seem to be just stupidly hard and churn out almost nothing of any value; the last one I went into had a bell maiden spamming out spiders that two shot me.
chalices are the hardest content in the unpatched game