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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    The last of us was originally going to have the only people infected be women
    The developer changed in before it was revealed because they feared doing so would make it harder to market

    Is that censorship?

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    By the way, changing something because you feel pressure from the potential customer base isn't censorship. That's the free market working as intended. If you choose to release a product that won't have broad appeal because you're proud of it as is and aren't concerned about expanding beyond your niche, that's fine. There's plenty of games doing that. But it's entirely a creator's purview to make that decision one way or the other.

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    Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    Guys in talking about danganronpa , not FE. Read the damn thread

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    CH you realize that in the perfect scenario of how people should act about this stuff that you put forth companies will still end up removing this kind of stuff because it drives people to not play their game right

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Okay. Well in that case, still no one's demanding it be changed. They are simply exercising their right to criticism to say "I don't like this". It's also valid for people to say "if you had changed this I would have been more interested in the product." That's not a demand for censorship, that's also the market working as intended. Consumers express their desires and creators choose which desires to cater to.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    I can't wait til they post another funny video so we can go back to talking about that instead.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    By the way, changing something because you feel pressure from the potential customer base isn't censorship. That's the free market working as intended. If you choose to release a product that won't have broad appeal because you're proud of it as is and aren't concerned about expanding beyond your niche, that's fine. There's plenty of games doing that. But it's entirely a creator's purview to make that decision one way or the other.

    How about the cartoon network uk and the steven universe thing

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    That is censorship

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Media is too safe and boring, bring back unchecked and overt racism and double down on antisemitism.

    I don't have to deal with most of that nonsense, so clearly nobody else has to, right?

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    Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    Yeah, we should just take books that we don't agree with and burn them. Fuck art and freedom of speech.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    too true friend too true

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Ride to Hell finale.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njon0uoZiIU

    Aaaaaaaahow long can you ride in the frozen time?

    Youtube-comments suggest Men Without Hats as Pat's stand.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    How is this any different from the argument of video games normalizes and reinforce violent behavior?
    If you can't understand the difference than maybe you don't need to be having this conversation.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Ride to Hell finale.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njon0uoZiIU

    Aaaaaaaahow long can you ride in the frozen time?

    Youtube-comments suggest Men Without Hats as Pat's stand.

    But Pat often wears hats.

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Yeah, we should just take books that we don't agree with and burn them. Fuck art and freedom of speech.

    Again

    Freedom of speech has nothing to so with what we are talking about

    Unless the goverment decides to suddenly start paying attention to vidia games

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Yeah. I burn hundreds of books every day.

    We're using "burn" as slang for "choose not to read" in this context, right?

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    Yeah, we should just take books that we don't agree with and burn them. Fuck art and freedom of speech.

    Overplayed your hand, go back and train more

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Ride to Hell finale.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Njon0uoZiIU

    Aaaaaaaahow long can you ride in the frozen time?

    Youtube-comments suggest Men Without Hats as Pat's stand.

    But Pat often wears hats.

    It's because of Canada and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRykmeCs-C4.

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    By the way, changing something because you feel pressure from the potential customer base isn't censorship. That's the free market working as intended. If you choose to release a product that won't have broad appeal because you're proud of it as is and aren't concerned about expanding beyond your niche, that's fine. There's plenty of games doing that. But it's entirely a creator's purview to make that decision one way or the other.

    How about the cartoon network uk and the steven universe thing

    That one was being changed because of a government standards board, yes? By definition that would be censorship. If they made the decision on their own and it would have been aired either way, it would be the same scenario we discussed earlier. A governmental intercession makes all the difference.

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Yeah, we should just take books that we don't agree with and burn them. Fuck art and freedom of speech.

    Again

    Freedom of speech has nothing to so with what we are talking about

    Unless the goverment decides to suddenly start paying attention to vidia games

    Please no, not again.

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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    I burned a revisionist Civil War history book once

    It was very satisfying, i recommend the experience

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    Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    While we at it, I don't agree with that whole evolution thing. I find it offensive and children shouldn't be taught it. So I say we should introduce laws to b ad n it's teaching and instead teach the things I'm confortable with.

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    By the way, changing something because you feel pressure from the potential customer base isn't censorship. That's the free market working as intended. If you choose to release a product that won't have broad appeal because you're proud of it as is and aren't concerned about expanding beyond your niche, that's fine. There's plenty of games doing that. But it's entirely a creator's purview to make that decision one way or the other.

    How about the cartoon network uk and the steven universe thing

    That one was being changed because of a government standards board, yes? By definition that would be censorship. If they made the decision on their own and it would have been aired either way, it would be the same scenario we discussed earlier. A governmental intercession makes all the difference.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/05/cartoon-network-defends-decision-to-censor-same-sex-romance-in-steven-universe/

    According to this the UK ratings board allows it

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Someone mentioned using reporting to try and stop a conversation that's going in a bad way. How does that work when it's not really any one single post that's a problem?

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    By the way, changing something because you feel pressure from the potential customer base isn't censorship. That's the free market working as intended. If you choose to release a product that won't have broad appeal because you're proud of it as is and aren't concerned about expanding beyond your niche, that's fine. There's plenty of games doing that. But it's entirely a creator's purview to make that decision one way or the other.

    How about the cartoon network uk and the steven universe thing

    That one was being changed because of a government standards board, yes? By definition that would be censorship. If they made the decision on their own and it would have been aired either way, it would be the same scenario we discussed earlier. A governmental intercession makes all the difference.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/05/cartoon-network-defends-decision-to-censor-same-sex-romance-in-steven-universe/

    According to this the UK ratings board allows it

    In that case it's really not any different. It's disappointing to me, and I'll gladly criticize them for doing it, but that's totally their prerogative.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Someone mentioned using reporting to try and stop a conversation that's going in a bad way. How does that work when it's not really any one single post that's a problem?

    mods will look at an entire conversation

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    Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    edited January 2016
    I also don't like rap music and hoodies. They make me uncomfortable, please don't wear hoodies and play rape music around me or in the media u consume.

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    dudes having a Phoenix wright style breakdown animation

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    I sure as hell hope that is a accidental mispelling

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    NeoTomaNeoToma Registered User regular
    It's a little disquieting

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    BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    BlueBlue wrote: »
    By the way, changing something because you feel pressure from the potential customer base isn't censorship. That's the free market working as intended. If you choose to release a product that won't have broad appeal because you're proud of it as is and aren't concerned about expanding beyond your niche, that's fine. There's plenty of games doing that. But it's entirely a creator's purview to make that decision one way or the other.

    How about the cartoon network uk and the steven universe thing

    That one was being changed because of a government standards board, yes? By definition that would be censorship. If they made the decision on their own and it would have been aired either way, it would be the same scenario we discussed earlier. A governmental intercession makes all the difference.

    http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/05/cartoon-network-defends-decision-to-censor-same-sex-romance-in-steven-universe/

    According to this the UK ratings board allows it

    In that case it's really not any different. It's disappointing to me, and I'll gladly criticize them for doing it, but that's totally their prerogative.

    Nice! I do really appreciate this kind of consistency. I also think this sounds maybe sarcastic so I will say explicitly that it's not

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    TrippyJingTrippyJing Moses supposes his toeses are roses. But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered User regular
    Why is it that a majority of the people on the internet who agree with your interpretations of free speech, art, and censorship tend to be straight white men on Reddit and 4chan?

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I'll be honest, CH. I don't even know whose viewpoint in particular you're trying to counter anymore.

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    PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Why is it that a majority of the people on the internet who agree with your interpretations of free speech, art, and censorship tend to be straight white men on Reddit and 4chan?

    My engineer-cousin can tell you why.

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Why is it that a majority of the people on the internet who agree with your interpretations of free speech, art, and censorship tend to be straight white men on Reddit and 4chan?

    ...

    privilege?

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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    I'll be honest, CH. I don't even know whose viewpoint in particular you're trying to counter anymore.

    "Them" the mysterious sjw conspiracy that goes all the way to the white house

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    TrippyJing wrote: »
    Why is it that a majority of the people on the internet who agree with your interpretations of free speech, art, and censorship tend to be straight white men on Reddit and 4chan?

    My engineer-cousin can tell you why.

    #notallengineers

    (But seriously yeah too many of my coworkers are like that)

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    Beef AvengerBeef Avenger Registered User regular
    You guys tried to have a discussion with Casually Hardcore and look where it got you

    You did this to yourselves

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    Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    Because any sort of censoring, self or government, leads to an outcome like how Europe is handling Steven Univerese. The moment you let anyone speak for you is the moment you lose your right to choose what's good or bad for you.

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    SCREECH OF THE FARGSCREECH OF THE FARG #1 PARROTHEAD margaritavilleRegistered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    I'll be honest, CH. I don't even know whose viewpoint in particular you're trying to counter anymore.

    "Them" the mysterious sjw conspiracy that goes all the way to the white house

    4 Washington Lane?

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