What do you guys use to check your fps in games? I was using Rivatuner Statistics Server but I think having MSI Afterburner installed was causing driver issues so Afterburner is gone. I'd like to keep using Rivatuner, but I cant configure what info its going to show me (Afterburner would let it show me GPU utilization and speed, both of which have been helpful in diagnosing problems).
I currently have Asus' GPU Tweak II installed and I like what it shows me, but it wont give me an in-game overlay...
What do you guys use to check your fps in games? I was using Rivatuner Statistics Server but I think having MSI Afterburner installed was causing driver issues so Afterburner is gone. I'd like to keep using Rivatuner, but I cant configure what info its going to show me (Afterburner would let it show me GPU utilization and speed, both of which have been helpful in diagnosing problems).
I currently have Asus' GPU Tweak II installed and I like what it shows me, but it wont give me an in-game overlay...
I've been using Nvidia Shadowplay for FPS monitoring. Although, there are a handful of games that don't play nice with Shadowplay running...but so far, those are pretty far and few between (at least, as I've found).
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So I'm looking at my shelf of movies and started thinking 'Why don't I just rip these onto my hard drives and get rid of all these discs?'.
So....outside of getting a Blu-ray drive. Is there anything else I need to rip my movie collection onto my hard drives?
You need software. I would recommend MakeMKV which I came across a couple of months ago trying to find a program that was decent for making backups of my DRM-riddled DVDs. Works for DVD and BD, and it has a very lenient trial period. That reminds me, I should actually get around to purchasing a key...
What do you guys use to check your fps in games? I was using Rivatuner Statistics Server but I think having MSI Afterburner installed was causing driver issues so Afterburner is gone. I'd like to keep using Rivatuner, but I cant configure what info its going to show me (Afterburner would let it show me GPU utilization and speed, both of which have been helpful in diagnosing problems).
I currently have Asus' GPU Tweak II installed and I like what it shows me, but it wont give me an in-game overlay...
I've been using Nvidia Shadowplay for FPS monitoring. Although, there are a handful of games that don't play nice with Shadowplay running...but so far, those are pretty far and few between (at least, as I've found).
KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
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As I said that it seems a lot of companies started to restock. I'm going to see if I can order my full rig monday when I deposit a decent bit of money in my bank account and the ASUS GTX 1080 on Amazon at last is restocking
What do you guys use to check your fps in games? I was using Rivatuner Statistics Server but I think having MSI Afterburner installed was causing driver issues so Afterburner is gone. I'd like to keep using Rivatuner, but I cant configure what info its going to show me (Afterburner would let it show me GPU utilization and speed, both of which have been helpful in diagnosing problems).
I currently have Asus' GPU Tweak II installed and I like what it shows me, but it wont give me an in-game overlay...
I've been using Nvidia Shadowplay for FPS monitoring. Although, there are a handful of games that don't play nice with Shadowplay running...but so far, those are pretty far and few between (at least, as I've found).
Neither of these will tell me GPU speeds and usage though, right?
I can definitely tell you that Shadowplay will not show you GPU speeds and usage. Which is why I also run CPUID HWMonitor (for CPU temp monitoring) and Afterburner (for GPU temp, utilization, and custom fan profiles) open on my second monitor.
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Got my EVGA 1070 installed and man did it make a huuuuuuuge difference for me. Only running 1920x1080, but getting rock solid 60 fps in Doom on ultra settings.
Well, I bought 2 more 8 gig sticks of ram to go with my 1070 whenever that shows up. Figured since I can't have my GPU yet, I'd at least put in the RAM.
System would boot, black screen for 10 seconds, turn off, turn on again. That loop happened 4 or 5 times before I turned it off, then I got an overclock failed message the next time I tried, and my keyboard wouldn't work to go into the uefi.
Not sure if the RAM is just bad, but I pulled it (rip knuckles) and now the system is working fine again. Shrug, might just send it back and try again later.
Is the new RAM the exact same as the old RAM? Have you tried to use only the new RAM in place of the old RAM? Did you install the new RAM as pairs to each other and not paired with the old RAM? Did you try putting the new RAM in the old RAM's slots and the old RAM into the new RAM's slots?
Basically, before sending back the new RAM, ensure the MB doesn't have a fault or you'll be doing this over and over.
Yikes. This is my first build, and it's been harder than I thought it would be. Somehow I thought things would be easier to route through the case and plug in, screws wouldn't get lost in the case any more, and that documentation would be better. The main thing that I'm worried about now is the power for the video card. Video card is an EVGA GTX 1070, power supply is an EVGA Supernova 650 G2. So the 1070 came with an 8 pin plug split into two 6 pin plugs, but the manual says not to use the included cables unless the power supply didn't come with the right one. The PSU did come with VGA cables, consisting of an 8 pin leading off into a 6+2 pin and a 6 pin plug.
The 6+2 goes into the video card, from what I read online. And I think the 8 pin fits happily in the PSU. What do I do with the remaining 6 pin? I don't see anywhere to plug a 6 pin into the PSU (it doesn't want to go in the 8 pin space), or anywhere on the card. It seems like people online say you're supposed to plug it in to supply enough power to the card, but I don't see where. Or am I supposed to leave it dangling?
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
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Yeah after a half an hour of messing with the IO shield I started snapping tabs off.
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Yikes. This is my first build, and it's been harder than I thought it would be. Somehow I thought things would be easier to route through the case and plug in, screws wouldn't get lost in the case any more, and that documentation would be better. The main thing that I'm worried about now is the power for the video card. Video card is an EVGA GTX 1070, power supply is an EVGA Supernova 650 G2. So the 1070 came with an 8 pin plug split into two 6 pin plugs, but the manual says not to use the included cables unless the power supply didn't come with the right one. The PSU did come with VGA cables, consisting of an 8 pin leading off into a 6+2 pin and a 6 pin plug.
The 6+2 goes into the video card, from what I read online. And I think the 8 pin fits happily in the PSU. What do I do with the remaining 6 pin? I don't see anywhere to plug a 6 pin into the PSU (it doesn't want to go in the 8 pin space), or anywhere on the card. It seems like people online say you're supposed to plug it in to supply enough power to the card, but I don't see where. Or am I supposed to leave it dangling?
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
What you're going through is completely normal. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be, don't assume that building your own system is a leisurely walk in the park. It's something that you gradually build experience in, like any either skill, and it isn't going to come naturally to you necessarily.
It's hard to say exactly, but it sounds like that power supply is giving you the option to use a card that has two 6-pin connections (like my GTX 970). A GTX 1070, impressively enough, only has one 8-pin connection while a GTX 1080 has two 8-pins (my EVGA 750 G2 power supply has two 6+2 pin connections). It more or less just have to tuck it in somewhere which is one cable management is important, as you really don't want it just dangling in your case (the EVGA 750 should be fully modular--can't you just unplug the unused cable?).
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
I don't know what your case is, but the explanation for rubber washers sounds reasonable enough. Some fan makers include rubber grommets or other ways to reduce noise from vibration (usually where the screws connect it to the case). Others may not or you might need to remove the provided rubber and use the washers to ensure a better fit. And in some cases, there isn't any need to add anything at all. Call it a safety net for noise reduction.
I have absolutely no idea what you're referring to. But the connectors for SATA and power are impossible to mistake for one another. The power is about twice as wide and neither fits on the other.
3-pin fans plug into 4-pin connectors without issue. PWM fans generally means a more finite level of control over RPM speed, but you can get that with 3-pin non-PWM fans with either a MB that supports it natively or some third party software (such as Corsair's Link).
ChaosHatHop, hop, hop, HA!Trick of the lightRegistered Userregular
My bios has an option to run an extra monitor out of the integrated graphics. Is there a benefit or penalty to doing this? Will running a second monitor out of the igfx free up my graphics card meaningfully?
My latest mobo has the best ever I/O plate. It's foam-backed, and best of all: LED-illuminated. I can crawl behind my desk and not bring a flashlight and still plug in the right things!
Yikes. This is my first build, and it's been harder than I thought it would be. Somehow I thought things would be easier to route through the case and plug in, screws wouldn't get lost in the case any more, and that documentation would be better. The main thing that I'm worried about now is the power for the video card. Video card is an EVGA GTX 1070, power supply is an EVGA Supernova 650 G2. So the 1070 came with an 8 pin plug split into two 6 pin plugs, but the manual says not to use the included cables unless the power supply didn't come with the right one. The PSU did come with VGA cables, consisting of an 8 pin leading off into a 6+2 pin and a 6 pin plug.
The 6+2 goes into the video card, from what I read online. And I think the 8 pin fits happily in the PSU. What do I do with the remaining 6 pin? I don't see anywhere to plug a 6 pin into the PSU (it doesn't want to go in the 8 pin space), or anywhere on the card. It seems like people online say you're supposed to plug it in to supply enough power to the card, but I don't see where. Or am I supposed to leave it dangling?
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
What you're going through is completely normal. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be, don't assume that building your own system is a leisurely walk in the park. It's something that you gradually build experience in, like any either skill, and it isn't going to come naturally to you necessarily.
It's hard to say exactly, but it sounds like that power supply is giving you the option to use a card that has two 6-pin connections (like my GTX 970). A GTX 1070, impressively enough, only has one 8-pin connection while a GTX 1080 has two 8-pins (my EVGA 750 G2 power supply has two 6+2 pin connections). It more or less just have to tuck it in somewhere which is one cable management is important, as you really don't want it just dangling in your case (the EVGA 750 should be fully modular--can't you just unplug the unused cable?).
Yeah my EVGA 1070 only has one 8-pin connection. My previous GTX 770 had a 6-pin and an 8-pin, and the 1070 actually draws less power than it did.
Yikes. This is my first build, and it's been harder than I thought it would be. Somehow I thought things would be easier to route through the case and plug in, screws wouldn't get lost in the case any more, and that documentation would be better. The main thing that I'm worried about now is the power for the video card. Video card is an EVGA GTX 1070, power supply is an EVGA Supernova 650 G2. So the 1070 came with an 8 pin plug split into two 6 pin plugs, but the manual says not to use the included cables unless the power supply didn't come with the right one. The PSU did come with VGA cables, consisting of an 8 pin leading off into a 6+2 pin and a 6 pin plug.
The 6+2 goes into the video card, from what I read online. And I think the 8 pin fits happily in the PSU. What do I do with the remaining 6 pin? I don't see anywhere to plug a 6 pin into the PSU (it doesn't want to go in the 8 pin space), or anywhere on the card. It seems like people online say you're supposed to plug it in to supply enough power to the card, but I don't see where. Or am I supposed to leave it dangling?
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
What you're going through is completely normal. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be, don't assume that building your own system is a leisurely walk in the park. It's something that you gradually build experience in, like any either skill, and it isn't going to come naturally to you necessarily.
It's hard to say exactly, but it sounds like that power supply is giving you the option to use a card that has two 6-pin connections (like my GTX 970). A GTX 1070, impressively enough, only has one 8-pin connection while a GTX 1080 has two 8-pins (my EVGA 750 G2 power supply has two 6+2 pin connections). It more or less just have to tuck it in somewhere which is one cable management is important, as you really don't want it just dangling in your case (the EVGA 750 should be fully modular--can't you just unplug the unused cable?).
Yeah my EVGA 1070 only has one 8-pin connection. My previous GTX 770 had a 6-pin and an 8-pin, and the 1070 actually draws less power than it did.
This actually leaves me wondering if, at least by cable indication, my EVGA 750 G2 is the least EVGA would recommend you have if you're wanting to equip a GTX 1080 from them. Potentially still overkill, but I still might have just slid in at the bare minimum according to EVG.
Yikes. This is my first build, and it's been harder than I thought it would be. Somehow I thought things would be easier to route through the case and plug in, screws wouldn't get lost in the case any more, and that documentation would be better. The main thing that I'm worried about now is the power for the video card. Video card is an EVGA GTX 1070, power supply is an EVGA Supernova 650 G2. So the 1070 came with an 8 pin plug split into two 6 pin plugs, but the manual says not to use the included cables unless the power supply didn't come with the right one. The PSU did come with VGA cables, consisting of an 8 pin leading off into a 6+2 pin and a 6 pin plug.
The 6+2 goes into the video card, from what I read online. And I think the 8 pin fits happily in the PSU. What do I do with the remaining 6 pin? I don't see anywhere to plug a 6 pin into the PSU (it doesn't want to go in the 8 pin space), or anywhere on the card. It seems like people online say you're supposed to plug it in to supply enough power to the card, but I don't see where. Or am I supposed to leave it dangling?
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
What you're going through is completely normal. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be, don't assume that building your own system is a leisurely walk in the park. It's something that you gradually build experience in, like any either skill, and it isn't going to come naturally to you necessarily.
It's hard to say exactly, but it sounds like that power supply is giving you the option to use a card that has two 6-pin connections (like my GTX 970). A GTX 1070, impressively enough, only has one 8-pin connection while a GTX 1080 has two 8-pins (my EVGA 750 G2 power supply has two 6+2 pin connections). It more or less just have to tuck it in somewhere which is one cable management is important, as you really don't want it just dangling in your case (the EVGA 750 should be fully modular--can't you just unplug the unused cable?).
Yeah my EVGA 1070 only has one 8-pin connection. My previous GTX 770 had a 6-pin and an 8-pin, and the 1070 actually draws less power than it did.
This actually leaves me wondering if, at least by cable indication, my EVGA 750 G2 is the least EVGA would recommend you have if you're wanting to equip a GTX 1080 from them. Potentially still overkill, but I still might have just slid in at the bare minimum according to EVG.
KadokenGiving Ends to my Friends and it Feels StupendousRegistered Userregular
The restocks did not last. Newegg and Amazon either are raising prices or out of GTX1080. I would have leapt on them but I need to get back to my bank.
Yikes. This is my first build, and it's been harder than I thought it would be. Somehow I thought things would be easier to route through the case and plug in, screws wouldn't get lost in the case any more, and that documentation would be better. The main thing that I'm worried about now is the power for the video card. Video card is an EVGA GTX 1070, power supply is an EVGA Supernova 650 G2. So the 1070 came with an 8 pin plug split into two 6 pin plugs, but the manual says not to use the included cables unless the power supply didn't come with the right one. The PSU did come with VGA cables, consisting of an 8 pin leading off into a 6+2 pin and a 6 pin plug.
The 6+2 goes into the video card, from what I read online. And I think the 8 pin fits happily in the PSU. What do I do with the remaining 6 pin? I don't see anywhere to plug a 6 pin into the PSU (it doesn't want to go in the 8 pin space), or anywhere on the card. It seems like people online say you're supposed to plug it in to supply enough power to the card, but I don't see where. Or am I supposed to leave it dangling?
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
What you're going through is completely normal. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be, don't assume that building your own system is a leisurely walk in the park. It's something that you gradually build experience in, like any either skill, and it isn't going to come naturally to you necessarily.
It's hard to say exactly, but it sounds like that power supply is giving you the option to use a card that has two 6-pin connections (like my GTX 970). A GTX 1070, impressively enough, only has one 8-pin connection while a GTX 1080 has two 8-pins (my EVGA 750 G2 power supply has two 6+2 pin connections). It more or less just have to tuck it in somewhere which is one cable management is important, as you really don't want it just dangling in your case (the EVGA 750 should be fully modular--can't you just unplug the unused cable?).
Yeah my EVGA 1070 only has one 8-pin connection. My previous GTX 770 had a 6-pin and an 8-pin, and the 1070 actually draws less power than it did.
This actually leaves me wondering if, at least by cable indication, my EVGA 750 G2 is the least EVGA would recommend you have if you're wanting to equip a GTX 1080 from them. Potentially still overkill, but I still might have just slid in at the bare minimum according to EVG.
Eh, the 750 watt should drive two 1080s easily. It can handle dual Titan Xs, so the 1080s should be no problem at all.
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I don't know what your case is, but the explanation for rubber washers sounds reasonable enough. Some fan makers include rubber grommets or other ways to reduce noise from vibration (usually where the screws connect it to the case). Others may not or you might need to remove the provided rubber and use the washers to ensure a better fit. And in some cases, there isn't any need to add anything at all. Call it a safety net for noise reduction.
Yeah, my point was that I had to go online to learn this. The case (Fractal Design Define R4) manual didn't describe any of this, it just mentioned in passing that it comes with an accessory box, and on the box there was a pictorial inventory, including the "12x Rubber." Until I found other people asking what they were for, I was wondering if I was supposed to stick them on the standoffs (no). Speaking of which, I read a few build how-to guides first, which emphasized how important it was to install those standoffs and how to do it, so you don't short out your motherboard the first time you turn on the computer. Totally not mentioned in the motherboard or case manuals ("9x MB standoffs, 1x standoff installation tool"). In the back of the manual there's an exploded diagram with a numbered list of parts, but the diagram itself doesn't have any of those numbers.
I have absolutely no idea what you're referring to. But the connectors for SATA and power are impossible to mistake for one another. The power is about twice as wide and neither fits on the other.
This is what I'm talking about:
I don't know what it's warning me about, and I hope that either I got it or it's not important. This style is good for Legos and furniture, but I'm kind of worried I'm going to fail to boot or short something out.
3-pin fans plug into 4-pin connectors without issue. PWM fans generally means a more finite level of control over RPM speed, but you can get that with 3-pin non-PWM fans with either a MB that supports it natively or some third party software (such as Corsair's Link).
Yeah. I found that out from Google. Again, I just think this kind of thing -- "Go ahead and plug in 3 hole plugs into the 4 pin sockets, and oh yeah, line them up with that flat bit" -- would be good to include in the manual.
There were some H/A threads a few years ago with people asking if they should buy a prebuilt system or put it together themselves, and I remember someone saying that if you can assemble a Lego set you can easily put together a PC. I feel like this was way harder than putting together a set of Legos, and a lot of that is looking stuff up online instead of having it clearly laid out in the various manuals.
Anyway, it looks like I'm almost ready to plug it in and see if the box boots or burns the house down.
The thing about the standoffs, and why case makers don't really say anything, is that all MBs are not the same. The only thing that is universal is simply to ensure that the standoffs themselves do not touch anything but the area around each opening. To be careful inserting the MB so that you don't accidentally scratch any embedded traces that may be nearby. Go slow and keep calm and everything should drop into place.
The 'warning' is just to draw attention that the connectors are different. The wider one is for power, the thin one is for data. Make sure the angled tabs are properly lined up and then insert firmly but not forcefully.
As far as 3-pin/4-pin connectors and LEGO abilites go, everything about building a system per-supposes some level of familiarity with computer parts. Comparing it to LEGO is a bit much, but being able to recognise shapes between different connectors and where they should likely go is part of it.
But there is nothing wrong with asking questions for clarification. I checked out your case manual, and frankly it was wholly unhelpful. It makes be believe that Fractal, or at least your case, is meant for a level of knowledge a bit beyond 'beginner'. I didn't really need much info for the case I ended up with (Corsair 760T), but it definitely had much more information about what was going on and included. So, some companies are better about that information.
There are plenty of us willing to answer questions, but even we need some questions answered, too.
Is the new RAM the exact same as the old RAM? Have you tried to use only the new RAM in place of the old RAM? Did you install the new RAM as pairs to each other and not paired with the old RAM? Did you try putting the new RAM in the old RAM's slots and the old RAM into the new RAM's slots?
Basically, before sending back the new RAM, ensure the MB doesn't have a fault or you'll be doing this over and over.
Yea, I was doing it at 2am so I didn't really have the mental bandwidth, especially since I'm working underneath a NH-D14 which overhangs the last slot, so it's really aggravating to mess with the slots (rip knuckles). I'll probably mess with again this weekend at some point. I'm still hoping my 1070 comes in today so I can mess around with that.
on the box there was a pictorial inventory, including the "12x Rubber."
Sounds like my average weekend hiyoooooooooooooo
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I'm going to be jumping from 16 to 32 GB of RAM on my main machine and I'm curious, in the DDR3 world, is it generally still considered good practice to get low CAS, medium speed RAM, over medium CAS, high speed RAM? Basically looking at a CAS 9 2133 kit versus a CAS 11 2400 kit. My two-year-old knowledge of RAM buying tells me the CAS 9 2133 kit is going to be the better performer over all, but I just want to check my assumption.
Lower CAS. At that speed difference, you'd unlikely notice it either way. But if you're a mind of it, you could OC the RAM to a faster speed and tighten the timings to be better than the faster rated sticks. Or you could get the faster sticks and try and lower the timings.
However...
Unless you're swapping out your old RAM, then get sticks that match what you already have.
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I currently have Asus' GPU Tweak II installed and I like what it shows me, but it wont give me an in-game overlay...
So....outside of getting a Blu-ray drive. Is there anything else I need to rip my movie collection onto my hard drives?
I've been using Nvidia Shadowplay for FPS monitoring. Although, there are a handful of games that don't play nice with Shadowplay running...but so far, those are pretty far and few between (at least, as I've found).
You need software. I would recommend MakeMKV which I came across a couple of months ago trying to find a program that was decent for making backups of my DRM-riddled DVDs. Works for DVD and BD, and it has a very lenient trial period. That reminds me, I should actually get around to purchasing a key...
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Neither of these will tell me GPU speeds and usage though, right?
I can definitely tell you that Shadowplay will not show you GPU speeds and usage. Which is why I also run CPUID HWMonitor (for CPU temp monitoring) and Afterburner (for GPU temp, utilization, and custom fan profiles) open on my second monitor.
System would boot, black screen for 10 seconds, turn off, turn on again. That loop happened 4 or 5 times before I turned it off, then I got an overclock failed message the next time I tried, and my keyboard wouldn't work to go into the uefi.
Not sure if the RAM is just bad, but I pulled it (rip knuckles) and now the system is working fine again. Shrug, might just send it back and try again later.
Basically, before sending back the new RAM, ensure the MB doesn't have a fault or you'll be doing this over and over.
The 6+2 goes into the video card, from what I read online. And I think the 8 pin fits happily in the PSU. What do I do with the remaining 6 pin? I don't see anywhere to plug a 6 pin into the PSU (it doesn't want to go in the 8 pin space), or anywhere on the card. It seems like people online say you're supposed to plug it in to supply enough power to the card, but I don't see where. Or am I supposed to leave it dangling?
Some of the other things that have thrown me for a loop but which I think have been resolved:
- What are all these rubber washers that came with the case for? (The Internet says they're for reducing noise when mounting fans and PSUs).
- The 850 Evo's manual has a warning with a scary exclamation point, but I don't know what it's getting at. I think it's a note that there are separate ports for the the SATA and power connection, but a few words would really help.
- Why are all the fans' plugs 3-pin while the motherboard only has 4 pin ports for them? (The fourth pin has something to do with power management or fan control, apparently).
- Why does the motherboard tell me to plug the 2 pin plug for reset across 3 pins?
- Getting the motherboard into the back I/O plate was surprisingly difficult. One set of prongs kept getting jammed out of position.
God bless those boards that come with the foam-backed i/o shields instead of the metal prong ones.
What you're going through is completely normal. Even if it's not as bad as it used to be, don't assume that building your own system is a leisurely walk in the park. It's something that you gradually build experience in, like any either skill, and it isn't going to come naturally to you necessarily.
It's hard to say exactly, but it sounds like that power supply is giving you the option to use a card that has two 6-pin connections (like my GTX 970). A GTX 1070, impressively enough, only has one 8-pin connection while a GTX 1080 has two 8-pins (my EVGA 750 G2 power supply has two 6+2 pin connections). It more or less just have to tuck it in somewhere which is one cable management is important, as you really don't want it just dangling in your case (the EVGA 750 should be fully modular--can't you just unplug the unused cable?).
I don't know what your case is, but the explanation for rubber washers sounds reasonable enough. Some fan makers include rubber grommets or other ways to reduce noise from vibration (usually where the screws connect it to the case). Others may not or you might need to remove the provided rubber and use the washers to ensure a better fit. And in some cases, there isn't any need to add anything at all. Call it a safety net for noise reduction.
I have absolutely no idea what you're referring to. But the connectors for SATA and power are impossible to mistake for one another. The power is about twice as wide and neither fits on the other.
3-pin fans plug into 4-pin connectors without issue. PWM fans generally means a more finite level of control over RPM speed, but you can get that with 3-pin non-PWM fans with either a MB that supports it natively or some third party software (such as Corsair's Link).
I don't know. What is your motherboard?
Some I/O plates suck.
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Yeah my EVGA 1070 only has one 8-pin connection. My previous GTX 770 had a 6-pin and an 8-pin, and the 1070 actually draws less power than it did.
The Gigabyte Z170X Gaming G1. Tbh fancy illumination is the least I should have expected for its price, but it was still a pleasant surprise
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This actually leaves me wondering if, at least by cable indication, my EVGA 750 G2 is the least EVGA would recommend you have if you're wanting to equip a GTX 1080 from them. Potentially still overkill, but I still might have just slid in at the bare minimum according to EVG.
the 295x2,titan-z, and 7990? there dual gpu in a single slot cards, so naturally they draw about twice as much power as a single gpu.
Eh, the 750 watt should drive two 1080s easily. It can handle dual Titan Xs, so the 1080s should be no problem at all.
Yeah, my point was that I had to go online to learn this. The case (Fractal Design Define R4) manual didn't describe any of this, it just mentioned in passing that it comes with an accessory box, and on the box there was a pictorial inventory, including the "12x Rubber." Until I found other people asking what they were for, I was wondering if I was supposed to stick them on the standoffs (no). Speaking of which, I read a few build how-to guides first, which emphasized how important it was to install those standoffs and how to do it, so you don't short out your motherboard the first time you turn on the computer. Totally not mentioned in the motherboard or case manuals ("9x MB standoffs, 1x standoff installation tool"). In the back of the manual there's an exploded diagram with a numbered list of parts, but the diagram itself doesn't have any of those numbers.
This is what I'm talking about:
I don't know what it's warning me about, and I hope that either I got it or it's not important. This style is good for Legos and furniture, but I'm kind of worried I'm going to fail to boot or short something out.
Yeah. I found that out from Google. Again, I just think this kind of thing -- "Go ahead and plug in 3 hole plugs into the 4 pin sockets, and oh yeah, line them up with that flat bit" -- would be good to include in the manual.
There were some H/A threads a few years ago with people asking if they should buy a prebuilt system or put it together themselves, and I remember someone saying that if you can assemble a Lego set you can easily put together a PC. I feel like this was way harder than putting together a set of Legos, and a lot of that is looking stuff up online instead of having it clearly laid out in the various manuals.
Anyway, it looks like I'm almost ready to plug it in and see if the box boots or burns the house down.
The 'warning' is just to draw attention that the connectors are different. The wider one is for power, the thin one is for data. Make sure the angled tabs are properly lined up and then insert firmly but not forcefully.
As far as 3-pin/4-pin connectors and LEGO abilites go, everything about building a system per-supposes some level of familiarity with computer parts. Comparing it to LEGO is a bit much, but being able to recognise shapes between different connectors and where they should likely go is part of it.
But there is nothing wrong with asking questions for clarification. I checked out your case manual, and frankly it was wholly unhelpful. It makes be believe that Fractal, or at least your case, is meant for a level of knowledge a bit beyond 'beginner'. I didn't really need much info for the case I ended up with (Corsair 760T), but it definitely had much more information about what was going on and included. So, some companies are better about that information.
There are plenty of us willing to answer questions, but even we need some questions answered, too.
Yea, I was doing it at 2am so I didn't really have the mental bandwidth, especially since I'm working underneath a NH-D14 which overhangs the last slot, so it's really aggravating to mess with the slots (rip knuckles). I'll probably mess with again this weekend at some point. I'm still hoping my 1070 comes in today so I can mess around with that.
You'd have to break your hard drive to even get the two of them flip flopped.
I'm getting a bunch of random artifacting in ARK with my new 1080...
Ive been meaning to take the free win10 upgrade and do a clean install... Maybe it's time.
aluminum mousepad....
yes.....
I have one. I've had it for a couple of years now. I really like it.
http://www.corsair.com/en-us/corsair-vengeance-mm600-dual-sided-gaming-mouse-mat
That is the one I have.
Man, I'm really surprised by how much better it feels compared to the cheap cloth mousepad I've been using for years. Just so much more precise.
Sounds like my average weekend hiyoooooooooooooo
However...
Unless you're swapping out your old RAM, then get sticks that match what you already have.
Only had 15 in stock but at $699 and ASUS upped their price by 70
I am excite bike