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[MTG] The Stoned Vampires of Markov Manor

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    reynad is an idiot who was banned from mtg for cheating (and also makes his living off hearthstone, so you know, not an unbiased source), and mtg has seen increased profits and growth for like the last decade consistently

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    high card prices are happening because of increased demand, which means magic is doing the opposite of dying

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Knob wrote: »
    Fuckin hundred dollar jace, fifty dollar avacyn

    Does standard just do this sometimes

    Before this shit it seemed like 20 bucks was about the top end of standard playables outside big money hustlers like $30 ugins

    jace is the most expensive card that has ever been in standard except for wallet sculptor I believe?

    actually I think he got banned before he got that high?

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Kilroy wrote: »
    high card prices are happening because of increased demand, which means magic is doing the opposite of dying

    yeah, a lot of that due in part to how widely applicable cards like avacyn and jace are re: different types of decks that can use them

    plus avacyn's newness

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    DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    but for real @Pinfeldorf should shoot me a pm of what commander shit you are looking for, because I dont use pucatrade

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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    MTG is not dying but (speaking about playing competitively) it is now a game for people making a solid middle class and above wage that can spend $400+ a month on this game.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    we're going through a period of time where some of the most important cards are the mythics, whereas there was an earlier period where mythics were useful roleplayers in decks but not defining powerhouses

    that was alleviated during khans due to how much product was opened but it's less the case for sets like origins or recent releases

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    there's a reason reynad keeps saying mtg is dying and hearthstone will replace it

    hint: it's not the card design

    magic is doing the opposite of dying

    eternal formats are running into major trouble though

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    The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    edited April 2016
    tbh I just posted that to see what the reaction would be, of course I wouldn't listen to renyad's opinion on magic

    I'm just really leery of physical CCGs as an industry in general because of negative personal experiences and how my own mind rationalizes value, but I still do hope prices stabilize at a more reasonable place because I would like to take magic seriously one day but I'm not the sort of person to dump everything into one hobby

    edit: also official formats seem pretty dumb to me, you introduce rotations to keep the modern sets balanced in their own right, you can't keep an eternal set balanced

    like, by definition, you can't, they exist in a space in which you found balancing too difficult which is why you made the rotations in the first place

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    there are definitely highs and lows

    i'm not really super eager to buy in right now, but the period of time where we just had khans and fates and dragons of tarkir hadn't ruined everything was a time of wonderful cheap deck diversity

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    tbh I just posted that to see what the reaction would be, of course I wouldn't listen to renyad's opinion on magic

    I'm just really leery of physical CCGs as an industry in general because of negative personal experiences and how my own mind rationalizes value, but I still do hope prices stabilize at a more reasonable place because I would like to take magic seriously one day but I'm not the sort of person to dump everything into one hobby

    edit: also official formats seem pretty dumb to me, you introduce rotations to keep the modern sets balanced in their own right, you can't keep an eternal set balanced

    like, by definition, you can't, they exist in a space in which you found balancing too difficult which is why you made the rotations in the first place

    banlist and extensive professionals playing and brewing is how eternal formats are balanced

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    eternal formats are super awesome and the only part of them I don't care for is the reserve list

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    KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    vintage sucks but legacy is good

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    TheLawinatorTheLawinator Registered User regular
    Pauper is the best eternal format.

    My SteamID Gamertag and PSN: TheLawinator
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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Kilroy wrote: »
    vintage sucks but legacy is good

    vintage is fascinating to watch but boy howdy

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    APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    2-1 with UW Rattlechains and friends.

    Pour over the Pages is great. True faith Censor is surprisingly good even if you don't have a lot of humans (helps if one of them is Avacynian Missionaries).

    The 2/5 Ox is just really solid. Shores up the ground magnificently.

    Tried out Angel of Deliverence. Just felt bad. 8 is just too damn much. I don't thjbj I ever cast it.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    we're going through a period of time where some of the most important cards are the mythics, whereas there was an earlier period where mythics were useful roleplayers in decks but not defining powerhouses

    that was alleviated during khans due to how much product was opened but it's less the case for sets like origins or recent releases

    I think what makes it fun every single standard when a couple mythics skyrocket and become staples to the format creating yet another $$ roadblock.

    We should be due any minute now for the usual " We're totally gonna not put staples in mythics" regularly scheduled announcement

    Steam! Battlenet:Wisemantobes#1508
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    KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    MTG is not dying but (speaking about playing competitively) it is now a game for people making a solid middle class and above wage that can spend $400+ a month on this game.

    Partly because all the middle school kids that played in the 90s are now those middle class adults with disposable income.

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    APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    Limited thoughts:

    I've now done 3 pre-release Sealeds and 3 drafts. Format is REALLY GOOD, guys. Colors feel well balanced (Blue is probably the weakest but it's not by a silly amount, it's certainly can be good or great). And there are so many interesting things going on. Board states are interesting and involve a lot of things to keep an eye on (transform cards flipping,, madness possibilities, Delerium counts, a bunch of viable combat tricks).

    I didn't draft enough triple Khans to say if SOI is on that level, but I certainly think it's the best format since that at the very least.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Limited thoughts:

    I've now done 3 pre-release Sealeds and 3 drafts. Format is REALLY GOOD, guys. Colors feel well balanced (Blue is probably the weakest but it's not by a silly amount, it's certainly can be good or great). And there are so many interesting things going on. Board states are interesting and involve a lot of things to keep an eye on (transform cards flipping,, madness possibilities, Delerium counts, a bunch of viable combat tricks).

    I didn't draft enough triple Khans to say if SOI is on that level, but I certainly think it's the best format since that at the very least.

    If you have no plans for constructed and are wanting to just stay in the limited environment ( this is what I do, limited 4 lyfe), make sure to flog off your singles during their block, on MTGO when a set rotates , prices plummet.

    Those couple tickets per rare can start to go a long way, I only paid for 4 out of 48 drafts in 2015

    Steam! Battlenet:Wisemantobes#1508
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    The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Limited thoughts:

    I've now done 3 pre-release Sealeds and 3 drafts. Format is REALLY GOOD, guys. Colors feel well balanced (Blue is probably the weakest but it's not by a silly amount, it's certainly can be good or great). And there are so many interesting things going on. Board states are interesting and involve a lot of things to keep an eye on (transform cards flipping,, madness possibilities, Delerium counts, a bunch of viable combat tricks).

    I didn't draft enough triple Khans to say if SOI is on that level, but I certainly think it's the best format since that at the very least.

    my only complaint at the end of khans was that it devolved into 5color goodstuff drafts a month or so in

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    APODionysusAPODionysus Registered User regular
    Oh yeah. I do that with MTGO Rares.

    I've actually only played paper for this format so far, but for those I keep rares around to trade for a bit then every so often flip a bunch to CFB for credit for Modern cards I need.

    Once I finish building Lantern, I'll start flipping and trading for Fetches/Shocks to build up a multipurpose mana base that I can build future decks with

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    PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    there's a reason reynad keeps saying mtg is dying and hearthstone will replace it

    hint: it's not the card design

    magic is doing the opposite of dying

    eternal formats are running into major trouble though

    Friend and I were talking the other day about how much potential damage to Legacy is done purely by collectors and speculators. What percentage of Tropical Islands haven't seen the outside of a trade binder in 2, 5, 10, 15 years? Force of Will?

    And then fuck, take that same question into Vintage cards and I don't even know where it goes. My roommate has a playset of Tabernacles, which may very well be every Tabernacle in the state! And she hasn't played those in about 8 years, but it's real hard to trade off $700 cards.

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    KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    you can awaken a westvale abbey

    i didnt even consider that

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