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PRESIDENTIAL RACE 2016: Dehumanize yourself and face to polling

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    What polls are you using?

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    I know this thread is about the election, but I just saw this and what the actual fuck America?!

    http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/couple-killed-inglewood-police-shooting-asleep-mayor-butts-369902981.html

    This happened like 8, maybe 10 blocks from my apartment. It's a weird situation for sure, I don't even know what to think happened at this point.

    And I'm applying for a job in that PD too...

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    MadicanMadican No face Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JUCfX1P1ik

    I don't see this thread lasting much longer. I think there's a reason they tend to stick on D and D.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Well, it's also early as shit for a general election thread. I didn't start the 2012 ones until VPs were announced that August.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    What polls are you using?

    Rather than spend two hours compiling an article of point by point breakdowns of this argument like I normally would I'm just going to link to this Alternet article and go eat pizza and watch Lucha Underground.

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    Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    I just wanted a place to talk about general election news and stuff now that the Scalia thread is closed. I've been reading more D&D threads and enjoying it but SE is special! And stuff. I like this board. :o

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Well, it's also early as shit for a general election thread. I didn't start the 2012 ones until VPs were announced that August.

    Yeah, but the circus was slightly more muted last go around.

    Fencingsax on
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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Also here's a similar Mother Jones article.

    This pizza is good.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    Have fun in the underground...

    Looking through that article, it oversimplifies a lot of statistics. And I have some problems with at least a few of the polls it's using. But I'm not going to go into detail because that's boring and nobody wants that. (And honestly I'm lazy too.)

    I'll say it is totally true that most Americans want campaign finance reform, and other anti-corruption reform. But then that's less "socialist" and more "don't be stupid." Oh and gun control. It's true that even among conservative americans most people want at least some gun reform but that's being blocked by the incredibly powerful NRA.

    With a lot of other issues Americans have complex feelings where they're upset by the status quo but don't trust the government with added responsibility. Which sort of ties in where some of that article's findings include some pretty significant oversimplification. Also it's worth noting that because we're currently stuck with a two party system if even one issue is an absolute deal breaker for someone that can affect what their effective stance on issues is. But I'm rambling.

    Anyway I'm not saying anybody's wrong for voting for Bernie Sanders, I just think Hillary is the better choice for right now. And hell if Bernie gets the democratic nomination it isn't like I'm not going to vote for him. Maybe I'll be pleasantly surprised by what he could achieve in office.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Yeah this election cycle is absolutely a full blown crazy town dark carnival county fair circus on fire.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    It's like if everyone in The Crazies was also a juggalo and very active politically

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Yeah this election cycle is absolutely a full blown crazy town dark carnival county fair circus on fire.

    Who's courting the Juggalo vote?

    Trump?

    Probably Trump.

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    BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    Bucketman wrote: »
    Yeah this election cycle is absolutely a full blown crazy town dark carnival county fair circus on fire.

    Who's courting the Juggalo vote?

    Trump?

    Probably Trump.

    Well his face is painted

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    KadithKadith Registered User regular
    Now I am actually wondering about the political leanings of juggalos

    this is great

    someone please kill me.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Kadith wrote: »
    Now I am actually wondering about the political leanings of juggalos

    this is great

    someone please kill me.

    Is there a religious wing of Libertarians?

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Juggalos were largely duped by a new age christianity group parading as something more meaningful and not directly related to christianity.

    so they're probably republicans.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Are Juggalos religious?

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    TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    They believe in magic and miracles. They skew closest to some of the more backwoods/fringe elements of American Christianity.

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    Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    I have relevant Juggalo observations!

    The ones who live in the apartments by the park where I like to eat my lunch have several Bernie stickers on their car. They're actually the first source that clued me in to the link between former Rand Paul Revolutionaries and some Bernie Bros.

    Realizing lately that I don't really trust or respect basically any of the moderators here. So, good luck with life, friends! Hit me up on Twitter @DesertLeviathan
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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    So it's folk religion?

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    Are Juggalos religious?

    Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J certainly are. From what i remember the dark carnival reviel when the sixth joker card finally finished up was that it was a metaphor for purgatory or something and doing better to be welcomed into heaven.

    also for whoop whoop wicked clownz.

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Back to what I said last thread, somebody should make a Heavy Metal Parking Lot style documentary with Trump supporters. Worst case scenario you just put ominous music under it and sell it to The History Channel in 20 years.

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I liked Violent J's interview with Vice, and almost immediately after giving that answer about the dark carnival they asked him about problems facing youth at the time (2013 was when the interview happened) and he responded in a pretty cool way
    I don't think there are a lot of problems in kids these days, I see it the other way around. Shit, when I was a kid, people used to say *homophobic slur* on TV, you know what I'm saying? I feel like kids today are raised with not so much hate...When I was a kid it was different man, there was a lot of racism. Of course there's still racism, but not like it was in the 80's. I think kids today are moving in the right direction. They don't trip out if someone's openly gay, its just cooler that way. We have a black president, thats awesome.

    ed: VV Didn't know that, holy shit

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Violent J also made a rape victim cry because he was screaming at her about false testimony that one time he guested on Loveline sooooooo...

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    Violet J, maybe not the best role model.

    I am shocked.

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Wasn't ICP insanely homophobic in the early days?

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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    Wasn't ICP insanely homophobic in the early days?

    To be fair, so were most people I know... well, maybe not insanely.

    I try not to hold people's past prejudices against them considering that a lot of work to combat bigotry revolves around educating people who are prejudice in part because of bigoted cultural norms in our society.

    Up to a certain point though. It all depends on what they did because of the prejudices.
    Using a slur in private conversations in your teens and 20's and latter realizing that's not ok? Fine, you're good.

    Doing so on an album or encouraging hate to millions (oh god, that's probably an accurate number) of clowns who base their life choices around your crappy circus rap band? Yeah... you pretty much have to devote a good deal of the rest of your career to propping up minorities to make up for that shit.

    But man, telling people that Faygo is a good drink? Fuck you, you're done for life.

    No I don't.
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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    I know nothing about ICP. I'm okay with that.

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    Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    So you ask, What is a Juggalo? Let me think for a second...

    Oh,

    The term originated during a 1994 live performance by Insane Clown Posse. During the song "The Juggla", Violent J addressed the audience as Juggalos, and the positive response resulted in Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope using the word thereafter to refer to themselves and their friends, family and fans, including other Psychopathic Records artists.The fanbase boomed following the release of their third album, Riddle Box, in 1995, leading Insane Clown Posse to write the songs "What Is A Juggalo?" and "Down With The Clown" for their 1997 album The Great Milenko.



    Also, any interaction with a Juggalo is to be taken with caution. Not all Juggalos are the worst people ever I'm sure, but I've never had a good experience with anyone who's "Down with the Clown".

    No I don't.
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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    no no no no no no no no

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    Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    no no no no no no no no

    I would like to know more

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    StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    Gundi wrote: »
    no no no no no no no no
    So this Super Tuesday, are you voting for Violent J or Shaggy 2 Dope?

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    PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    no no no no no no no no
    So this Super Tuesday, are you voting for Violent J or Shaggy 2 Dope?

    Ugh, more establishment candidates.

    Vote 3rd Party.

    Vote for Anybody Killa.

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I'M VOTING FOR NOBODY

    NOBODY 2016

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    masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    I'M VOTING FOR NOBODY

    NOBODY 2016
    I prefer the Heartless party but I respect your opinion

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    MachwingMachwing It looks like a harmless old computer, doesn't it? Left in this cave to rot ... or to flower!Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    no no no no no no no no
    So this Super Tuesday, are you voting for Violent J or Shaggy 2 Dope?

    They're not due to be the dual-presidents until 2024, anyway

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    I'm glad i live in a nation were Shaggy 2 Dope can not run of office.

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I'm watchin the oscars so I haven't seen the bit this is from yet but this just showed up in my twitter feed and I love it.

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    HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    How come the figure on the ICP logo is called the hatchet man when he is clearly holding some sort of cleaver

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    because they're idiots.

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