Daylight Satans Time

joshofalltrades

This Sunday marks the start of DST in many states across the US.

Arguments for DST:

• More natural light
• Energy usage reduced (theoretically, I'm not sure how this holds up in practice)
• Fewer car accidents on poorly lit roads (again, in theory)
• Better times for football games (seriously...)
• People who play golf get more time in the day to do that

Arguments against DST:

• Disrupts sleep patterns (allegedly)
• Changing all the clocks is a goddamn hassle every year
• Potentially makes you late on the Sunday of the change, if you forgot about it
• Causes health problems (according to several studies)
• Cows hate it

UnbrokenEva

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84aWtseb2-4

time changes are bullshit garbage, DST costs more than it saves (if it saves anything) by a pretty large margin

The Betgirl

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

MAKE IT STOP

joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

I tried not to be biased against DST in the OP but

I'm biased against DST

Quetzi

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

I'm never going to be the sort of person who wakes up early in the morning to go outside

So let's stay on Daylight Savings Time all the time, and keep the light burning as long as possible

Raijin Quickfoot

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

TIME IS A FLAT CIRCLE

Quetzi

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

Alternately let's abolish daylight savings time but also let's abolish time zones and bring on the future in full force

Everyone functions on GMT, and we just develop a goddamn understanding that dusk/dawn aren't the same all over the world

darleysam

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

I generally prefer longer evenings, so I voted that way.

Probably won't be a contentious about it as the 'what day does the week start on' thread, though.

Raijin Quickfoot

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

I say we abolish all measurements of time.

joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

Straightzi wrote: »

Alternately let's abolish daylight savings time but also let's abolish time zones and bring on the future in full force

Everyone functions on GMT, and we just develop a goddamn understanding that dusk/dawn aren't the same all over the world

Wha

What is this

rhylith

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

I don't give a shit, just pick one. Losing / gaining an hour messes me up for like a month.

NeoToma

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

Dear other 49 states,

uh maybe catch up with the 22nd century, bruh

~your pals arizona

Madican

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

I would be perfectly happy to stick with the summer time so it's always light out in the evenings. But stop fucking around with changing things when not everywhere adheres to DST so it's screwing up time schedules even more.

Quetzi

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

joshofalltrades wrote: »

Straightzi wrote: »

Alternately let's abolish daylight savings time but also let's abolish time zones and bring on the future in full force

Everyone functions on GMT, and we just develop a goddamn understanding that dusk/dawn aren't the same all over the world

Wha

What is this

Time zones are an inefficient measure to solve a problem that doesn't really exist anymore

Also I am a crazy person

Dys

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

This means I lose an hour of sleep this weekend, so we need it gone literally right now.

The Betgirl

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

NeoToma wrote: »

Dear other 49 states,

uh maybe catch up with the 22nd century, bruh

~your pals arizona

too bad arizona's a fuckin hell hole

OmnipotentBagel

Switching between the two is fine. Don't change a thing!

There actually are benefits to starting the day later during the winter, particularly when it comes to saving on energy costs for heating schools and businesses and running public transportation and the like. And likewise, starting earlier in the summer means most commutes are happening before it starts warming up.

joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

I'm thinking about springing forward tonight, and setting all my clocks early

So that I don't have to lose sleep on a night where I have to wake up and go to work

Speed Racer

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

I disagree, with the advent of cellular and wifi technology many clicks can automatically adjust their time according to location

Therefore let's make time zones continuous instead of discrete

It's 12 in Dallas but 12:15 in Houston

joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

Speed Racer wrote: »

I disagree, with the advent of cellular and wifi technology many clicks can automatically adjust their time according to location

Therefore let's make time zones continuous instead of discrete

It's 12 in Dallas but 12:15 in Houston

This would drive me up the fucking wall

Quetzi

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

Speed Racer wrote: »

I disagree, with the advent of cellular and wifi technology many clicks can automatically adjust their time according to location

Therefore let's make time zones continuous instead of discrete

It's 12 in Dallas but 12:15 in Houston

This is like the more cyberpunk version of what I proposed

So yeah, I'm down

OmnipotentBagel

Switching between the two is fine. Don't change a thing!

Straightzi wrote: »

joshofalltrades wrote: »

Straightzi wrote: »

Alternately let's abolish daylight savings time but also let's abolish time zones and bring on the future in full force

Everyone functions on GMT, and we just develop a goddamn understanding that dusk/dawn aren't the same all over the world

Wha

What is this

Time zones are an inefficient measure to solve a problem that doesn't really exist anymore

Also I am a crazy person

Oh if we want to get crazy I take the opposite approach. Noon should mean noon as in solar noon. Let's abolish time zones and make local time structured entirely around when the sun is at its apex, so you need to know your exact longitudinal position in order to figure out what time it is. Everyone has a GPS in their pocket now, this shit is doable.

Edit: What the hell, Speed Racer and I have the same insane idea. That's probably a really bad sign.

The Betgirl

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

Speed Racer wrote: »

I disagree, with the advent of cellular and wifi technology many clicks can automatically adjust their time according to location

Therefore let's make time zones continuous instead of discrete

It's 12 in Dallas but 12:15 in Houston

the downside is that i would never be able to wrap my head around it completely, and travel would be that much more confusing

joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

The Betgirl wrote: »

Speed Racer wrote: »

I disagree, with the advent of cellular and wifi technology many clicks can automatically adjust their time according to location

Therefore let's make time zones continuous instead of discrete

It's 12 in Dallas but 12:15 in Houston

the downside is that i would never be able to wrap my head around it completely, and travel would be that much more confusing

"I'm so happy I get to visit you this weekend!"

"Me too! What time do you think you'll get here?"

"One thir... two fif... fuck if I know!"

Quetzi

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

I've actually thought about it both ways a bunch, and I think the human brain is better adapted to the concept of dawn is at 11 AM in New Jersey and 2 PM in New Mexico than it is to the constant changing times of the precisely located stuff.

Like, in terms of planning, at least.

Say you need to get to work at 9 AM, but you live about 20 miles west of where you work. It will take you thirty minutes to drive there, what time do you leave your house?

Yeah, you'd be able to figure it out through repetition easily enough, but it would be a huge pain in the ass every time you needed to go to a new place.

OmnipotentBagel

Switching between the two is fine. Don't change a thing!

Straightzi wrote: »

I've actually thought about it both ways a bunch, and I think the human brain is better adapted to the concept of dawn is at 11 AM in New Jersey and 2 PM in New Mexico than it is to the constant changing times of the precisely located stuff.

Like, in terms of planning, at least.

Say you need to get to work at 9 AM, but you live about 20 miles west of where you work. It will take you thirty minutes to drive there, what time do you leave your house?

Yeah, you'd be able to figure it out through repetition easily enough, but it would be a huge pain in the ass every time you needed to go to a new place.

The digital assistant in my phone already tells me when to leave my house to get to work on time, factoring in traffic.

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joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

Oghulk wrote: »

wait DST starts this sunday?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk

This has been a public service announcement

The Geek

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

More like Daylight Savings Time Cube

WheatBun01

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

re: Thread title

Is dumb

Raijin Quickfoot

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

Parts of Indiana don't change their time either.

Kwoaru

Oghulk wrote: »

wait DST starts this sunday?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk

Correct

On the first day of next week

Madican

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

The Betgirl wrote: »

NeoToma wrote: »

Dear other 49 states,

uh maybe catch up with the 22nd century, bruh

~your pals arizona

too bad arizona's a fuckin hell hole

Well I mean this can still fuck up anyone who is dealing with an Arizon-based entity. I turned in a late assignment for University of Phoenix once because whoops they don't do DST.

joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

One huge advantage to having discrete time zones though is that you can tell an entire time zone when something will happen, like if the President is going to address the nation, and you can easily and quickly do the mental math to know when it's going to happen in your time zone, regardless of whether you live there or not

If you make time zones continuous, it would be a clusterfuck for anybody who wasn't intimately familiar with how their current city's time is set in relation to such announcements

joshofalltrades

We should be on Standard Time all the time. That's why it's called Standard Time.

WheatBun01 wrote: »

re: Thread title

Is dumb

Better?

darleysam

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

Kwoaru wrote: »

Oghulk wrote: »

wait DST starts this sunday?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuccccccccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkk

Correct

On the first day of next week

In years to come, schoolkids will study you and write essays debating how history's greatest monster was allowed to go unchecked for so long.

Quetzi

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

OmnipotentBagel wrote: »

Straightzi wrote: »

I've actually thought about it both ways a bunch, and I think the human brain is better adapted to the concept of dawn is at 11 AM in New Jersey and 2 PM in New Mexico than it is to the constant changing times of the precisely located stuff.

Like, in terms of planning, at least.

Say you need to get to work at 9 AM, but you live about 20 miles west of where you work. It will take you thirty minutes to drive there, what time do you leave your house?

Yeah, you'd be able to figure it out through repetition easily enough, but it would be a huge pain in the ass every time you needed to go to a new place.

The digital assistant in my phone already tells me when to leave my house to get to work on time, factoring in traffic.

Fair

I do not use GPS for anything, so this idea is very uncomfortable to me

Liiya

Switching between the two is fine. Don't change a thing!

I don't mind changing the clocks, I think its fine.

Quetzi

I like waking up to darkness and having the sun shine until late in the evening. Get on DST and stick with it!

joshofalltrades wrote: »

One huge advantage to having discrete time zones though is that you can tell an entire time zone when something will happen, like if the President is going to address the nation, and you can easily and quickly do the mental math to know when it's going to happen in your time zone, regardless of whether you live there or not

If you make time zones continuous, it would be a clusterfuck for anybody who wasn't intimately familiar with how their current city's time is set in relation to such announcements

Right, that's why we synchronize everyone to the same time

Fuck this 9 Eastern/8 Central bullshit

It's all at the same time!

OmnipotentBagel

Switching between the two is fine. Don't change a thing!

Liiya wrote: »

I don't mind changing the clocks, I think its fine.

I always knew you were the only cool one here.

Madican

I don't care which schedule we are on, but we should pick one and never swap.

OmnipotentBagel wrote: »

Straightzi wrote: »

I've actually thought about it both ways a bunch, and I think the human brain is better adapted to the concept of dawn is at 11 AM in New Jersey and 2 PM in New Mexico than it is to the constant changing times of the precisely located stuff.

Like, in terms of planning, at least.

Say you need to get to work at 9 AM, but you live about 20 miles west of where you work. It will take you thirty minutes to drive there, what time do you leave your house?

Yeah, you'd be able to figure it out through repetition easily enough, but it would be a huge pain in the ass every time you needed to go to a new place.

The digital assistant in my phone already tells me when to leave my house to get to work on time, factoring in traffic.

What is your digital assistant? I may be interested in such an entity.