Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Will police drones looking for crime to stop in the panopticon have racist algorithms?
It's not about that,
to have a successful revolution you need to get the police and army to defect to the side of the revolutionaries
robots don't defect
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Will police drones looking for crime to stop in the panopticon have racist algorithms?
It's not about that,
to have a successful revolution you need to get the police and army to defect to the side of the revolutionaries
robots don't defect
um just backtrace proxies through their mainframes and hack their loyalty cores
Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Will police drones looking for crime to stop in the panopticon have racist algorithms?
It's not about that,
to have a successful revolution you need to get the police and army to defect to the side of the revolutionaries
robots don't defect
That is assuming they are designed competently so that unauthorized people can't take control of them.
Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Policing and security should be automated. Removes more problems than it solves.
Honestly, this is really the same argument people make with living, breathing government today. No government should ever have a monopoly on force. Now, during good times they should have a de facto monopoly because no one needs exercise their moral right / duty to use force themselves, but it's an inherently oppressive structure.
Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Will police drones looking for crime to stop in the panopticon have racist algorithms?
It's not about that,
to have a successful revolution you need to get the police and army to defect to the side of the revolutionaries
robots don't defect
um just backtrace proxies through their mainframes and hack their loyalty cores
this is difficult while the killbot is backtracing my basal ganglia
with bullets
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
Guilty here because I don't go to klan rallies. I don't really know that crowd. I've thought about this and I don't feel like that's hyperbole
Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Will police drones looking for crime to stop in the panopticon have racist algorithms?
It's not about that,
to have a successful revolution you need to get the police and army to defect to the side of the revolutionaries
robots don't defect
um just backtrace proxies through their mainframes and hack their loyalty cores
this is difficult while the killbot is backtracing my basal ganglia
Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Policing and security should be automated. Removes more problems than it solves.
Honestly, this is really the same argument people make with living, breathing government today. No government should ever have a monopoly on force. Now, during good times they should have a de facto monopoly because no one needs exercise their moral right / duty to use force themselves, but it's an inherently oppressive structure.
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ChanusHarbinger of the Spicy Rooster ApocalypseThe Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered Userregular
i don't remember the name of my local rep but also richmond city is like fuckin tammany hall so it really doesn't matter
Automation isn't scary. We adjust. We always have.
The end result, in the long term? We have so much stuff. Like, holy shit, the abundance we live in.
automation is great and I've never screamed DEATH TO THE MACHINES. HUMANITY UBER ALLES, but we shouldn't disregard the social implications.
If your widget factory can produce $billions while directly employing only 7 people, including the janitor and widget social media manager, that's fantastic. However, we are going to have to tax you to pay for good paying government infrastructure jobs.
the really scary thing IMO is if automation starts to extend to policing and security
if wealth and production are monopolized, and violent power is monopolized, well... the revolution is pretty dead
Will police drones looking for crime to stop in the panopticon have racist algorithms?
It's not about that,
to have a successful revolution you need to get the police and army to defect to the side of the revolutionaries
robots don't defect
That is assuming they are designed competently so that unauthorized people can't take control of them.
Guilty here because I don't go to klan rallies. I don't really know that crowd. I've thought about this and I don't feel like that's hyperbole
I vote democratic, but I don't see a huge reason to pay much attention to what exactly the local and state Republican representatives are up to beyond the most egregious stuff because it is usually just the typical Southern Republican stuff. I can assume that the democratic candidates are at least to the left of the Republican candidates even if they are usually blue dog democrats when I bother to read a bit about them.
A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
senators are patty murray and another... woman (fuck I should know that)
fed rep is Suzan DelBene (all my federal politicians are women, neat)
state senator and reps... eh it's always a pick between two dems it's not like it matters
plus our congress is as hopelesslessly shitlocked as the national one, and blatantly violates our constitution and the orders of the state supreme court to no consequences so fuck the rule of law I guess
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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senators are patty murray and another... woman (fuck I should know that)
fed rep is Suzan DelBene (all my federal politicians are women, neat)
state senator and reps... eh it's always a pick between two dems it's not like it matters
plus our congress is as hopelesslessly shitlocked as the national one, and blatantly violates our constitution and the orders of the state supreme court to no consequences so fuck the rule of law I guess
I voted for Sawant.
I kinda regret it, but only because her opponent seemed even better. Curse my inattention!
Washington voters need to pay attention to initiatives more anyway.
For instance, is Tim Eyeman a sponsor of an imitative? Don't vote for it.
Also double check, is one of his shitty friends a sponsor? He stopped putting his name on them.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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LudiousI just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered Userregular
senators are patty murray and another... woman (fuck I should know that)
fed rep is Suzan DelBene (all my federal politicians are women, neat)
state senator and reps... eh it's always a pick between two dems it's not like it matters
plus our congress is as hopelesslessly shitlocked as the national one, and blatantly violates our constitution and the orders of the state supreme court to no consequences so fuck the rule of law I guess
I voted for Sawant.
I kinda regret it, but only because her opponent seemed even better. Curse my inattention!
ha no way
I love that an honest-to-goodness communist got elected
maybe then people will stop calling basic government services communism with something to compare to
Aioua on
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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HakkekageSpace Whore Academysumma cum laudeRegistered Userregular
Policing and military being automated seems almost inevitable, when automation reaches that level. And it would solve a lot of problems.
But technological progress means greater power and greater potential for centralization of power. That means potential for class-based tyranny.
When you have enough power in an unequal society, if it is possible to respond with overwhelming and unnecessary force to violation of the status quo and also put down any unrest because of it, that's bad news.
Fortunately that kind of technology seems to be pretty, uh, porous? And the more power is centralized, the more potent subversion of its control would be
INITIATIVE 831
I, Sam Reed, Secretary of State of the State of Washington and
custodian of its seal, hereby certify that, according to the records on
file in my office, the attached copy of Initiative Measure No. 831 to
the People is a true and correct copy as it was received by this
office:
INITIATIVE TO THE PEOPLE:
WHEREAS, Tim Eyman’s ill-conceived anti-tax initiatives are an
irresponsible means of legislating tax policy, an abuse of the
initiative process, and insult to our system of representative
democracy; and
WHEREAS, Tim Eyman is an admitted liar, who paid himself $45,000
from campaign funds, while publicly denying any personal gain from
the state-wide initiatives he sponsored; and
WHEREAS, Tim Eyman diverted $165,000 of campaign contributions to
a for-profit corporation he controls, with the intention of paying
himself an additional $157,000; and
WHEREAS, Motivated by self-aggrandizement and personal gain, Tim
Eyman has consistently misrepresented the initiatives he sponsored,
and misappropriated funds donated to support them; and
WHEREAS, Tim Eyman readily admits, in his own words, that "I just
feel like an ass;"
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, That the citizens of the State of
Washington do hereby proclaim that Tim Eyman is a Horse’s Ass.
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, That copies of this resolution be
immediately transmitted to Tim Eyman, his wife, and his mother. So
there.
life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Yeup. Which are some of the most obvious poverty taxes in law enforcement.
Don't need racist cops when the system is designed to disproportionately impact poor and minority populations.
Automating that unjust system doesn't fix that system.
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it confused me!
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It's not about that,
to have a successful revolution you need to get the police and army to defect to the side of the revolutionaries
robots don't defect
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
um just backtrace proxies through their mainframes and hack their loyalty cores
That is assuming they are designed competently so that unauthorized people can't take control of them.
Policing and security should be automated. Removes more problems than it solves.
Honestly, this is really the same argument people make with living, breathing government today. No government should ever have a monopoly on force. Now, during good times they should have a de facto monopoly because no one needs exercise their moral right / duty to use force themselves, but it's an inherently oppressive structure.
this is difficult while the killbot is backtracing my basal ganglia
with bullets
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
um use the cloud
do i have to think of everything
:snap:
It's like that movie Timecop Chappie
I vote democratic, but I don't see a huge reason to pay much attention to what exactly the local and state Republican representatives are up to beyond the most egregious stuff because it is usually just the typical Southern Republican stuff. I can assume that the democratic candidates are at least to the left of the Republican candidates even if they are usually blue dog democrats when I bother to read a bit about them.
senators are patty murray and another... woman (fuck I should know that)
fed rep is Suzan DelBene (all my federal politicians are women, neat)
state senator and reps... eh it's always a pick between two dems it's not like it matters
plus our congress is as hopelesslessly shitlocked as the national one, and blatantly violates our constitution and the orders of the state supreme court to no consequences so fuck the rule of law I guess
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
fakeedit: comment redacted for dangerous levels of cynicism
I almost exclusively vote locally.
Edit: Whoops, the separatist dingus is the federal rep...
its the provincial one i don't remember.
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Red light cameras come to mind.
Now that I've done that,
*forwards that tweet to everyone else before they can do the same*
I voted for Sawant.
I kinda regret it, but only because her opponent seemed even better. Curse my inattention!
For instance, is Tim Eyeman a sponsor of an imitative? Don't vote for it.
Also double check, is one of his shitty friends a sponsor? He stopped putting his name on them.
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Haven't those been deemed unconstitutional?
ha no way
I love that an honest-to-goodness communist got elected
maybe then people will stop calling basic government services communism with something to compare to
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Senators Bob Menendez and Corey Booker
Representative Frank Pallone
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I still know my stuff from Colorado.
Fuck you Coffman. Though I guess redistricting made it so they are Gardner's old district now.
I did some work for the state elections in 2012.
I am moving in like 2 weeks and that will probably change my local representation again.
But technological progress means greater power and greater potential for centralization of power. That means potential for class-based tyranny.
When you have enough power in an unequal society, if it is possible to respond with overwhelming and unnecessary force to violation of the status quo and also put down any unrest because of it, that's bad news.
Fortunately that kind of technology seems to be pretty, uh, porous? And the more power is centralized, the more potent subversion of its control would be
not everywhere. it's a local, municipal-by-municipal, state-by-state thing whether or not those are allowed
NNID: Hakkekage
fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
Yeup. Which are some of the most obvious poverty taxes in law enforcement.
Don't need racist cops when the system is designed to disproportionately impact poor and minority populations.
Automating that unjust system doesn't fix that system.
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@Kana will create the new thread
@Ludious is backup