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Yeah. That's how you win as KT. "Make sure that nothing on your side of the board is anything less than OP".
An ideal start is Gothik the Harvester and Heigen the Unclean and then just reanimating them.
Or Stalagg/Feugen (and one of the 4 drops).
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Someone killed my Shredder and it popped out Pint Sized Summoner right before my turn 5. Discounted MC.
I've played 7 games of brawl this week, all of which have been on Rafaam. I won 5 of them. I lost the first game where I didn't really know what was going on. I lost another game when my Internet went out. So I've done pretty well on Rafaam. I think Rafaam is actually very good practice for playing something like Handlock or a Fatigue-type deck. You have the long game on your side, so you have to spend some life to maximize the effect of your AoEs. KT can't really hold back because he has no way to come back on board, and his late game is generally going to be weaker than Rafaam's.
Of course, maybe if I get to play some KT I'll just feel overpowered.
Playing some funsies decks today since I already hit Rank 5 and I'm just goofin' around til April. Today is Raptor Rogue!
Dude, fuck. Anub'arak is a fucking instant win vs Control Warrior. He had already played an Owl out early on, on an Egg. I correctly assumed he was only running one, cause he was NOT able to deal with Anub'arak after I slammed him down. I thought I was gonna lose that game for sure til I drew Anub.
And for those curious, here's my list (spoilered for large):
It's actually kinda solid. It's not great, but it's decent when it works. And more importantly it's fun. I like fun. :P
The Cold Bloods are... pretty non-standard, but they're amazingly good. They add a whole new dimension to Raptor Rogue and allow a lot more versatility with what you can do. Activator for Egg, allows you to race Aggro, allows you to trade up into tougher minions. Finley's in there cause Raptor Rogue doesn't really utilize Dagger too much. There's a lot better options. Warlock is one of the best, Hunter is surprisingly good vs Aggro, Priest is decent vs Control, etc etc.
I've thought about including Sylvanas or maybe Tomb Pillagers or something. Not sure where I'd be able to fit them in.
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Dude, fuck. Anub'arak is a fucking instant win vs Control Warrior.
Correction: Anub is an instant win against control warrior, except when he's the literal last card in your deck like every fucking time I play control rogue :rotate:
Fucking Blingtron. Gives my opponent Gorehowl, and I get Charged Hammer.
I'm Rafaam.
well, you don't HAVE to use all the charges, and I don't think KT has weapon destruction. Just use it like a Stormeforged Axe and ignore the last durability. Doomhammer/Cursed Blade would still be much worse.
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Playing some funsies decks today since I already hit Rank 5 and I'm just goofin' around til April. Today is Raptor Rogue!
Dude, fuck. Anub'arak is a fucking instant win vs Control Warrior. He had already played an Owl out early on, on an Egg. I correctly assumed he was only running one, cause he was NOT able to deal with Anub'arak after I slammed him down. I thought I was gonna lose that game for sure til I drew Anub.
And for those curious, here's my list (spoilered for large):
It's actually kinda solid. It's not great, but it's decent when it works. And more importantly it's fun. I like fun. :P
The Cold Bloods are... pretty non-standard, but they're amazingly good. They add a whole new dimension to Raptor Rogue and allow a lot more versatility with what you can do. Activator for Egg, allows you to race Aggro, allows you to trade up into tougher minions. Finley's in there cause Raptor Rogue doesn't really utilize Dagger too much. There's a lot better options. Warlock is one of the best, Hunter is surprisingly good vs Aggro, Priest is decent vs Control, etc etc.
I've thought about including Sylvanas or maybe Tomb Pillagers or something. Not sure where I'd be able to fit them in.
Yeah, if Control Warrior ever becomes a giant meta force, Control Rogue might rise just because of how strong Anub is. You basically have to Shield Slam on Sylvanas to steal it or you lose, especially because most Control Warrior decks don't run silence effects.
Yeah I mean, I talked some MAD SHIT about Anub'arak when he was first revealed for TGT.
But Golden Monkey and the rare appearance in Raptor Rogue has shown otherwise. Dude is ridiculous. I know a lot of people (particularly the pros) were like "hurr only 4 health, 9 mana, you're never going to play this turn after turn". But it's a STRONG fucking card. I think Raptor Rogue will be a lot better in Old Gods too, given that N'Zoth is a thing.
Also, unrelated, but I broke 4k gold today! Sitting pretty for when the expac drops.
Anub'arak is a very strong card in a class that has fucking no support for the kind of deck he wants
This was my feeling. Anub is a pretty cool card but Rogues really don't have the means to prolong a game to make him useful. Warrior, priest, even paladin would be better suited for something like that.
Even then, Anub is still really slow. You'd basically have to exhaust all other sources of removal before you play him. Or get some serious mana reduction on the card.
I mean I kinda feel like Anub'arak fits into Raptor Rogue, but Raptor Rogue isn't very good, so there's that.
He's basically just a lategame bomb you can throw out that your opponent can't deal with. If they use removal, it doesn't matter since he keeps coming back. Eventually your opponent will exhaust their resources and you'll win simply through attrition.
It's very good vs Control, it's okay vs Midrange, and it's almost entirely too slow vs Aggro. But I definitely feel like it has a place in Raptor Rogue. It's the closest thing Rogue has to a Tempo/Midrange deck, and it's got a nice place there.
Granted, playing down Anub'arak is a bit dependent on board state. You almost never want to drop him if you're behind on board unless you absolutely have no better play otherwise.
I mean I kinda feel like Anub'arak fits into Raptor Rogue, but Raptor Rogue isn't very good, so there's that.
He's basically just a lategame bomb you can throw out that your opponent can't deal with. If they use removal, it doesn't matter since he keeps coming back. Eventually your opponent will exhaust their resources and you'll win simply through attrition.
It's very good vs Control, it's okay vs Midrange, and it's almost entirely too slow vs Aggro. But I definitely feel like it has a place in Raptor Rogue. It's the closest thing Rogue has to a Tempo/Midrange deck, and it's got a nice place there.
Granted, playing down Anub'arak is a bit dependent on board state. You almost never want to drop him if you're behind on board unless you absolutely have no better play otherwise.
excuse me sir
in what world can you play anub'arak against a midrange deck and not immediately die?
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Rogue has plenty of comeback mechanics, it's just that by the time they need them they've probably taken too much face damage for it to matter. Rogue is supposed to get value from its weapon but it can't mitigate that damage like a warrior or paladin. So they pretty much have to be ahead at all times.
Blade Flurry is one of the best board clears in the game.
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Well gnomefriend isn't wrong in that Rogue has had the lowest tournament representation (I think Priest even has more) for a suuuuper long time.
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heh, kibler just said emphatically DO NOT put Anub in raptor rogue, it doesn't belong in the deck. Which is what I've been saying all along, it's a tempo deck, you don't put Ysera in a tempo deck
heh, kibler just said emphatically DO NOT put Anub in raptor rogue, it doesn't belong in the deck. Which is what I've been saying all along, it's a tempo deck, you don't put Ysera in a tempo deck
I dunno, Kibler says a lot of things I disagree with. For example, he said to never ever ever put Lightbomb in Dragon Priest, but he's never managed to get a Dragon Priest to legend, and every proven legend-capable Dragon Priest deck I've seen has at least one copy of Lightbomb.
Rogue simply doesn't have enough support for other archetypes at the moment. Raptor Rogue exists, but it's not great, and it still feels like it's missing a piece of the puzzle. Raptor Rogue's 2 drops are all very unimpactful (Egg does nothing on it's own, Haunted Creeper is okay but can't really do anything to other 2 drops, Loot Hoarder is just for cycle, Thalnos is for spellpower/cycle), it's really only due to things like Abusive Sergeant and Raptor that gives those 2 drops value.
So Rogue is kinda pigeon-holed into combo based decks at the moment, Miracle/Malygos and Oil.
They tried to push some good minions onto Rogue with LoE, and it was successful to a degree. But any non-combo Rogue deck feels like trying to play Control Hunter or something. It just kinda doesn't work because the tools aren't there.
Rogue's base cards all heavily slant it towards spells and weapon interactions, and this is pretty noticeable when you're trying to build a deck that doesn't involve much of that (e.g. Raptor Rogue). I mean, kudos to the Hearthstone team for trying to help decks achieve other archetypes, but... I dunno.
heh, kibler just said emphatically DO NOT put Anub in raptor rogue, it doesn't belong in the deck. Which is what I've been saying all along, it's a tempo deck, you don't put Ysera in a tempo deck
I dunno, Kibler says a lot of things I disagree with. For example, he said to never ever ever put Lightbomb in Dragon Priest, but he's never managed to get a Dragon Priest to legend, and every proven legend-capable Dragon Priest deck I've seen has at least one copy of Lightbomb.
Also yeah, Kibler says he doesn't think Anub'arak belongs in Raptor Rogue but I've had much success proving otherwise. I mean, most people right now seem to think Doomguard shouldn't be in Zoo and I look at all the people saying that like they're fucking crazy.
So, different strokes for different folks I guess? I see where Kibler's coming from regarding Anub'arak but I absolutely disagree.
I also don't think the comparison to Ysera is very apt. Ysera herself is kind of low impact, right? But she sits there and generates value because she's a 4/12 and hard to remove. Anub'arak is easy to remove (only 4 health), but he puts your opponent on a clock (8 damage every turn is ROUGH), can't be removed outside of Silence/Poly/Entomb etc, and completely destroys control decks. It's how you WIN control matchups.
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That's... That's how probability works, right?
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An ideal start is Gothik the Harvester and Heigen the Unclean and then just reanimating them.
Or Stalagg/Feugen (and one of the 4 drops).
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Actually nauseatingly good RNG.
Of course, maybe if I get to play some KT I'll just feel overpowered.
Dude, fuck. Anub'arak is a fucking instant win vs Control Warrior. He had already played an Owl out early on, on an Egg. I correctly assumed he was only running one, cause he was NOT able to deal with Anub'arak after I slammed him down. I thought I was gonna lose that game for sure til I drew Anub.
And for those curious, here's my list (spoilered for large):
It's actually kinda solid. It's not great, but it's decent when it works. And more importantly it's fun. I like fun. :P
The Cold Bloods are... pretty non-standard, but they're amazingly good. They add a whole new dimension to Raptor Rogue and allow a lot more versatility with what you can do. Activator for Egg, allows you to race Aggro, allows you to trade up into tougher minions. Finley's in there cause Raptor Rogue doesn't really utilize Dagger too much. There's a lot better options. Warlock is one of the best, Hunter is surprisingly good vs Aggro, Priest is decent vs Control, etc etc.
I've thought about including Sylvanas or maybe Tomb Pillagers or something. Not sure where I'd be able to fit them in.
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Correction: Anub is an instant win against control warrior, except when he's the literal last card in your deck like every fucking time I play control rogue :rotate:
then stupidly fell or the bait and let them duplicate it
UGH
I'm Rafaam.
well, you don't HAVE to use all the charges, and I don't think KT has weapon destruction. Just use it like a Stormeforged Axe and ignore the last durability. Doomhammer/Cursed Blade would still be much worse.
Yeah, if Control Warrior ever becomes a giant meta force, Control Rogue might rise just because of how strong Anub is. You basically have to Shield Slam on Sylvanas to steal it or you lose, especially because most Control Warrior decks don't run silence effects.
But Golden Monkey and the rare appearance in Raptor Rogue has shown otherwise. Dude is ridiculous. I know a lot of people (particularly the pros) were like "hurr only 4 health, 9 mana, you're never going to play this turn after turn". But it's a STRONG fucking card. I think Raptor Rogue will be a lot better in Old Gods too, given that N'Zoth is a thing.
Also, unrelated, but I broke 4k gold today! Sitting pretty for when the expac drops.
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Aand I lost solely because of that. Burn in hell deathlord.
the real issue is if the owl is there you instalose because you spent 9 mana to absorb four damage
It's an interesting example of how big a difference the deck ecosystem makes on the power level of a card.
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This was my feeling. Anub is a pretty cool card but Rogues really don't have the means to prolong a game to make him useful. Warrior, priest, even paladin would be better suited for something like that.
Even then, Anub is still really slow. You'd basically have to exhaust all other sources of removal before you play him. Or get some serious mana reduction on the card.
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He's basically just a lategame bomb you can throw out that your opponent can't deal with. If they use removal, it doesn't matter since he keeps coming back. Eventually your opponent will exhaust their resources and you'll win simply through attrition.
It's very good vs Control, it's okay vs Midrange, and it's almost entirely too slow vs Aggro. But I definitely feel like it has a place in Raptor Rogue. It's the closest thing Rogue has to a Tempo/Midrange deck, and it's got a nice place there.
Granted, playing down Anub'arak is a bit dependent on board state. You almost never want to drop him if you're behind on board unless you absolutely have no better play otherwise.
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excuse me sir
in what world can you play anub'arak against a midrange deck and not immediately die?
Blade Flurry is one of the best board clears in the game.
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I dunno, Kibler says a lot of things I disagree with. For example, he said to never ever ever put Lightbomb in Dragon Priest, but he's never managed to get a Dragon Priest to legend, and every proven legend-capable Dragon Priest deck I've seen has at least one copy of Lightbomb.
So Rogue is kinda pigeon-holed into combo based decks at the moment, Miracle/Malygos and Oil.
They tried to push some good minions onto Rogue with LoE, and it was successful to a degree. But any non-combo Rogue deck feels like trying to play Control Hunter or something. It just kinda doesn't work because the tools aren't there.
Rogue's base cards all heavily slant it towards spells and weapon interactions, and this is pretty noticeable when you're trying to build a deck that doesn't involve much of that (e.g. Raptor Rogue). I mean, kudos to the Hearthstone team for trying to help decks achieve other archetypes, but... I dunno.
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Also yeah, Kibler says he doesn't think Anub'arak belongs in Raptor Rogue but I've had much success proving otherwise. I mean, most people right now seem to think Doomguard shouldn't be in Zoo and I look at all the people saying that like they're fucking crazy.
So, different strokes for different folks I guess? I see where Kibler's coming from regarding Anub'arak but I absolutely disagree.
I also don't think the comparison to Ysera is very apt. Ysera herself is kind of low impact, right? But she sits there and generates value because she's a 4/12 and hard to remove. Anub'arak is easy to remove (only 4 health), but he puts your opponent on a clock (8 damage every turn is ROUGH), can't be removed outside of Silence/Poly/Entomb etc, and completely destroys control decks. It's how you WIN control matchups.
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