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52 Thread: The Final Weeks

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  • The_LightbringerThe_Lightbringer Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I don't understand how that'll work... there are hundreds of alternate earths in marvel

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  • mattharvestmattharvest Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    eryu90 wrote: »
    I read the spoilers and all I can say is

    HI FUCKING 5 DC!
    Marvel Universe=Earth 5
    I really wonder how they're going to pull that off.

    Especially since it completely contravenes
    the rules about the multiverse in Marvel. It's impossible for Marvel's entire multiverse to be DC's Earth-5 for obvious reasons. This means they're basically just going to have to play it as a gag, and never refer to it again.

    Frankly, I have no idea why they'd even try that sort of crap. The 52-worlds thing is going to be weird as it is, since from the summary above there's no clear explanation of how people are going to be distributed, which version of each hero will be remembered on each Earth, etc.

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  • HooraydiationHooraydiation Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I don't see why it shouldn't be taken as anything but a gag.

    If you must rationalize it, though, then imagine that it's not the real Marvel Universe but rather a crazy world that happens to resemble the Marvel Universe.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2007
    eryu90 wrote: »
    I read the spoilers and all I can say is

    HI FUCKING 5 DC!
    Marvel Universe=Earth 5
    I really wonder how they're going to pull that off.

    Especially since it completely contravenes
    the rules about the multiverse in Marvel. It's impossible for Marvel's entire multiverse to be DC's Earth-5 for obvious reasons. This means they're basically just going to have to play it as a gag, and never refer to it again.

    Frankly, I have no idea why they'd even try that sort of crap. The 52-worlds thing is going to be weird as it is, since from the summary above there's no clear explanation of how people are going to be distributed, which version of each hero will be remembered on each Earth, etc.

    It's not distributing heroes, it's just different versions of Earth.

    The main DCU continuity is "New Earth", which was made during Infinite Crisis

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  • ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    DC's Earth-5 is Marvel's Earth-616. The other Marvel Earths are all alternate versions of that world and are contained within it. I makes sense to me, at least.

    Marvel has an Earth set aside for DC as well. And I would assume that all the other DC universes would just be Marvel Earth-21234a, Earth-21234b, etc. As shown in Exiles, they've had already-alternate worlds further splinter off into new worlds that are still connected back to the first.

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  • jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Earth-5 is Captain Marvel (Shazam!) Earth, not Marvel Universe Earth.

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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Earth-5 is Captain Marvel (Shazam!) Earth, not Marvel Universe Earth.

    I said this. Why don't people listen to me? I know things.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    eryu90 wrote: »
    I read the spoilers and all I can say is

    HI FUCKING 5 DC!
    Marvel Universe=Earth 5
    I really wonder how they're going to pull that off.

    Especially since it completely contravenes
    the rules about the multiverse in Marvel. It's impossible for Marvel's entire multiverse to be DC's Earth-5 for obvious reasons. This means they're basically just going to have to play it as a gag, and never refer to it again.

    Frankly, I have no idea why they'd even try that sort of crap. The 52-worlds thing is going to be weird as it is, since from the summary above there's no clear explanation of how people are going to be distributed, which version of each hero will be remembered on each Earth, etc.

    Retards.

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  • mattharvestmattharvest Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Earth-5 is Captain Marvel (Shazam!) Earth, not Marvel Universe Earth.

    Hah! Nice catch.

    But this does indicate that we're going to have
    different heroes on different Earths, possibly ALSO with New Earth also having the same heroes. It's like an inverted Infinite Crisis.

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Earth-5 is Captain Marvel (Shazam!) Earth, not Marvel Universe Earth.

    Hah! Nice catch.

    But this does indicate that we're going to have
    different heroes on different Earths, possibly ALSO with New Earth also having the same heroes. It's like an inverted Infinite Crisis.

    No, it doesn't indicate that at all. Stop saying stupid things in this thread which require equally stupid responses.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So much for spoilers eh?

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  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Terrorbyte wrote: »
    Earth-5 is Captain Marvel (Shazam!) Earth, not Marvel Universe Earth.

    Hah! Nice catch.

    But this does indicate that we're going to have
    different heroes on different Earths, possibly ALSO with New Earth also having the same heroes. It's like an inverted Infinite Crisis.

    No, it doesn't indicate that at all. Stop saying stupid things in this thread which require equally stupid responses.
    To be honest, I had the same WTF reaction when I read that line in the spoilers about a 'Marvel' Earth being one of the 52. I suppose by now we're just used to associating that word to the company rather then the DC hero.

    On another subject, I'd like to see how they'll explain the Wildstorm Earth becoming one of the 52. Was it always connected to the DC Earth via the 'collapsed' Hypertime or did the (near) simotanious resets that occured to both of their worlds end up connecting the pair concidering when Captain Atom showed up in IC? How will the Bleed, associated with Wildstorm's previous multiverse adventures, now factor in other then being a good hiding spot from the Monitors?

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  • TerrorbyteTerrorbyte __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Owenashi wrote:
    How will the Bleed, associated with Wildstorm's previous multiverse adventures, now factor in other then being a good hiding spot from the Monitors?

    I'm assuming that...
    They'll connect the whole vibrational frequency thing with the concept of the Bleed for travel between the Earths of the multiverse. Since the DCU doesn't have a shiftship, I assume that it'll be a while until we see a visit to an alternate Earth that doesn't include Ion (who can travel to the Bleed on his own) or Captain Atom (who is the first in-canon DCU character to venture into the Bleed).

    If I became a DC writer tomorrow, I'd have Anna Hark's guy over in Planetary crash his shiftship into the DCU and recruit some characters for a multiverse-spanning romp.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    That was how you end a year long weekly series.

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  • LuxLux Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Ralph Dibny.
    Ghost detective!

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  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I can't believe they managed to clean up identity crisis as well.

    Fucking excellent issue.

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  • Pantaley ShlopapaPantaley Shlopapa Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Bad Karma wrote: »
    That was how you end a comic

    Anyone else for a monitor high five?

    My hand is already on the screen.

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    That was awesome.

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Also,
    Is he wearing Sobek? Hahahahaha

    Htown on
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  • bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Htown wrote: »
    Also,
    Is he wearing Sobek? Hahahahaha

    He so is.

    So anyway.

    The Multi-verse is back. Only... in a way which would make it odd to deal with for writers.

    I mean, I can't imagine Captain Marvel stories only taking place on Earth-5 from now on, for example.

    Maybe some stories will happen that way? Like, one month Captain Marvel will be an Earth-5 story, or whatever?

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    I don't think so.

    I think we have New Earth that has everybody we know on it, but then we also have the other worlds, where if you go to Earth-5 it's mainly the Marvels and not much else, or you go to Earth-2 and it's the Justice Society instead of the league. New Earth is pretty much unchanged from the end of Infinite Crisis/OYL etc. It's just that all the other Earths are now added on.

    Which is useful, because now you have the main DC earth, but you can tell a separate story on Earth-2 or the "Kingdom Come" Earth.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2007
    which earth has the superbuddies

    I want that earth

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2007
    Lux wrote: »
    Ralph Dibny.
    Ghost detective!

    Hopefully we get some Ralph+Sue and Deadman team-ups

    oh wait they're too busy ruining deadman in Vertigo

    never mind

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Wait, so what did Mr. Mind do exactly?

    I'm still confused on the whole thing.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited May 2007
    That was a really good ending to a series that was really uneven for me at times.

    Although the Montoya storyline still hasn't done anything for me, I do like the way they bookended her story.

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  • bobgorilabobgorila Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Interestingly: Earth-2 is missing its Kryptonians.

    Dun dun duuuuuun!

    Also: Kingdom Come earth! How awesome!?

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Oh my god, this was a work of art.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    bobgorila wrote: »
    Interestingly: Earth-2 is missing its Kryptonians.

    Dun dun duuuuuun!

    Also: Kingdom Come earth! How awesome!?

    So awesome.

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    After Infinite Crisis, New Earth split into a bunch of identical Earths.

    Mr. Mind, in his "evolved" form, can apparently eat space/time.

    Whenever Booster & Co. ran to a different Earth, he would start eating its history/events. So he'd chomp something out of Earth-whatever's history and that would cause changes. Like making the Marvel family the main family of heroes. Or making an evil version of the justice league. Or making the Nazis win World War II.

    So Mr. Mind changed the 52 (originally identical) universes by chomping events out of their histories and making them different, so now there are 52 different Earths.

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Furu wrote: »
    bobgorila wrote: »
    Interestingly: Earth-2 is missing its Kryptonians.

    Dun dun duuuuuun!

    Also: Kingdom Come earth! How awesome!?

    So awesome.
    Fuck that.

    Earth-4 is where it's at. Blue Beetle, Vic Sage Question and Cap'n Atom? Yes please.

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    edited May 2007
    bobgorila wrote: »
    Interestingly: Earth-2 is missing its Kryptonians.

    Dun dun duuuuuun!

    Also: Kingdom Come earth! How awesome!?

    dude it was revealed months ago in JSofA

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  • HtownHtown Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    bobgorila wrote: »
    Interestingly: Earth-2 is missing its Kryptonians.

    Dun dun duuuuuun!
    Because they're either on Earth (Power Girl) or dead (Kal-L.)

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    So like, all the earths were the same, but then Mr. Mind fucked them up?

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  • BlankspaceBlankspace __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    So like, all the earths were the same, but the Mr. Mind fucked them up?
    Yeah, they started out identical but were altered by Mr. Mind.

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  • JoeUserJoeUser Forum Santa Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    So like, all the earths were the same, but the Mr. Mind fucked them up?
    Yeah, they started out identical but were altered by Mr. Mind.
    If you haven't read the issue yet, there are some cool panels where a flying Mr. Mind is sucking in what look like a bunch of pieces of paper that have little scenes on them.

    Plus the Earth-3 Martian Manhunter looks completely awesome.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    So like, all the earths were the same, but the Mr. Mind fucked them up?
    Yeah, they started out identical but were altered by Mr. Mind.
    If you haven't read the issue yet, there are some cool panels where a flying Mr. Mind is sucking in what look like a bunch of pieces of paper that have little scenes on them.

    Plus the Earth-3 Martian Manhunter looks completely awesome.
    I've read it , it was just kind of confusing.

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  • FuruFuru Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Sars_Boy wrote: »
    So like, all the earths were the same, but the Mr. Mind fucked them up?
    Yeah, they started out identical but were altered by Mr. Mind.
    If you haven't read the issue yet, there are some cool panels where a flying Mr. Mind is sucking in what look like a bunch of pieces of paper that have little scenes on them.

    Plus the Earth-3 Martian Manhunter looks completely awesome.
    I've read it , it was just kind of confusing.

    Grant Morrison.

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  • Sars_BoySars_Boy Rest, You Are The Lightning. Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Yeah, I said that about half-way through the issue.

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  • SquashuaSquashua __BANNED USERS regular
    edited May 2007
    Mr. Mind drained these other Earths of histories and altered them in doing so.

    So since they were all originally based on the mainstream DCU, this is why most of them are iterations of the mainstream DCU.

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  • Bad KarmaBad Karma Registered User regular
    edited May 2007
    Week 52 definately leaves openings for new ongoings / mini's.

    The last page that has Booster and Rip talking pretty much sets up the Booster Gold series and it's premise.

    Booster and rip go a planet hoppin'.

    Infinity Inc(teased), Black Adam(confirmed), Batwoman (w/ Question?), Sue and Ralph..Dead Detective Agency?

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