Yeah AoS settles after the first half-season, has an incredible twist we've absolutely been spoiling all over this thread late in season 1, then is fantastic the whole time after that.
Christian Ward is filling in on Ultimates #6 for Kenneth Rocafort and man that's a tough act to follow, I wonder if-
Yeah nope nevermind, you're good to go
I just had a weird experience that I promise isn't just another excuse to dump on BvS.
My boss came in to basically say "go home early have a great weekend" and I was noodling over what to do, one option of which - kind of instinctively - was maybe go to the movies. This thought was immediately and sincerely followed up with "well there isn't really anything out" and then minutes later I remembered that today was opening day for BvS.
So despite multiple threads now of talking at length about BvS, I forgot about its existence almost immediately. I found that kind of crazy and just wanted to get it off my chest for whatever reason.
I wonder if whoever made that Phase 1 supercut plans to do the same with phase 2 and 3
the fact that there are now TV series to account for has to make it way harder
I wanna see it cut from the Avengers fighting Ultrons in Markovia to Foggy giving an impassioned speech to SHIELD talking about the Inhumans
or like, the end of Agent Carter -> Wilson Fisk's childhood -> Matt Murdock as a kid -> 2000 New Year's party in Bern -> Matt meets Elektra (I probably skipped a ton of stuff there)
I mean, only in theory, because that's a ton of shit to watch
like oh yeah Jessica Jones has to meet Kilgrave at some point in the middle of that too
do you think shield knows about the hand and kilgrave but are just too busy
There is a short appearance by what sure looks like SHIELD agents in Daredevil season 2.
Wait, when was that?
Episode 4 I think?
When Karen is looking through Frank's house, a van pulls up outside and agents step out.
This is right after Frank told someone about those agents with the suits and the earpiece and that just spelled out SHIELD to me.
Huh.
I always assumed those were people from the DA's office, keeping tabs on the house to see if Frank returned there.
Yeah in retrospect that totally links to that but the fact that Frank referenced agents with earpieces earlier in the episode makes me think maybe SHIELD investigated and handed over what they found to Reyes?
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Could Wolverine's adamantium claws puncture Superman's super Kryptonian skin?
do you think shield knows about the hand and kilgrave but are just too busy
There is a short appearance by what sure looks like SHIELD agents in Daredevil season 2.
Wait, when was that?
Episode 4 I think?
When Karen is looking through Frank's house, a van pulls up outside and agents step out.
This is right after Frank told someone about those agents with the suits and the earpiece and that just spelled out SHIELD to me.
Huh.
I always assumed those were people from the DA's office, keeping tabs on the house to see if Frank returned there.
Yeah in retrospect that totally links to that but the fact that Frank referenced agents with earpieces earlier in the episode makes me think maybe SHIELD investigated and handed over what they found to Reyes?
Because there are no real-world suits with earpieces organizations.
Oh my dear god the origin for the team in that Scooby Doo Apocalypse series is hilarious
They all meet at Burning Man. Scooby and Shaggy are there for the festival and the drugs, Fred and Daphne are fading YouTube stars who have a Mythbusters esque show and are looking for a supposed government think tank hidden underneath the desert and Velma is a kid in said think tank which accidentally opens a gateway to hell.
do you think shield knows about the hand and kilgrave but are just too busy
There is a short appearance by what sure looks like SHIELD agents in Daredevil season 2.
Wait, when was that?
Episode 4 I think?
When Karen is looking through Frank's house, a van pulls up outside and agents step out.
This is right after Frank told someone about those agents with the suits and the earpiece and that just spelled out SHIELD to me.
What would keeping tabs on a war veteran who has no super powers but likes shooting gang members have to do with SHIELD?
Suspected Inhuman?
Remember in episode 1 everyone thought the Punisher was an entire squad. Maybe they sent some people over to make sure there aren't special abilities at work here.
Also it occurs to me that season 2 starts in an often-referenced heat wave, which would place it in the summer of 2016.
Which means the season happens after the events of AoS season 3 and Civil War.
do you think shield knows about the hand and kilgrave but are just too busy
There is a short appearance by what sure looks like SHIELD agents in Daredevil season 2.
Wait, when was that?
Episode 4 I think?
When Karen is looking through Frank's house, a van pulls up outside and agents step out.
This is right after Frank told someone about those agents with the suits and the earpiece and that just spelled out SHIELD to me.
Huh.
I always assumed those were people from the DA's office, keeping tabs on the house to see if Frank returned there.
Yeah in retrospect that totally links to that but the fact that Frank referenced agents with earpieces earlier in the episode makes me think maybe SHIELD investigated and handed over what they found to Reyes?
There is also all that stuff
colonel Clancy Brown talked about. How it was more than just a botched drug deal. What Frank did in Kandahar. How "they" will not let it go.
I think I'd like more cross-references than the show makers are comfortable with making. There's a ton of shit linking to Jessica Jones but nothing to the movies or ABC series. No shots of the Avengers Tower or anything either.
a lot of ward's early scenes are much better with the full context
and apparently brett dalton didn't even know about ward until the episode where it happened
Honestly, rewatching season 1 has been really good for mostly that reason.
Also, it flows way better when there's not a week between each episode. I got to the midseason finale and went "holy shit already?"
and by then it's actually pretty good.
My favorite bit of the pre-reveal Ward stuff is in the Lorelai and Sif episode. If you take the editing as chronological, he pulls the trigger on May AFTER Lorelai's mind control is broken. Like, he saw the opportunity to plausibly remove the biggest physical threat to him in that split second and took it. Of course, you know, gun was empty, but he still managed to get it chalked up the Asgardinan ju-ju that was supposedly in his head.
They are actually thinking of doing the whole fan theory of the Jetsons and Flintstones living in the same world but with the Jetsons in the clouds having time traveled to the stone age for some reason
They want Judy Jetson and Wilma Flintstone to be related
Fred has to fight off their pet Sabretooth from actually eating their infant daughter every time they're together
do you think shield knows about the hand and kilgrave but are just too busy
There is a short appearance by what sure looks like SHIELD agents in Daredevil season 2.
Wait, when was that?
Episode 4 I think?
When Karen is looking through Frank's house, a van pulls up outside and agents step out.
This is right after Frank told someone about those agents with the suits and the earpiece and that just spelled out SHIELD to me.
What would keeping tabs on a war veteran who has no super powers but likes shooting gang members have to do with SHIELD?
Suspected Inhuman?
Remember in episode 1 everyone thought the Punisher was an entire squad. Maybe they sent some people over to make sure there aren't special abilities at work here.
Also it occurs to me that season 2 starts in an often-referenced heat wave, which would place it in the summer of 2016.
Which means the season happens after the events of AoS season 3 and Civil War.
Wonder what the politics are like at that point.
I think it's summer to christmas 2015, so slightly behind real time, with daredevil 1 taking place mostly in real time and ending not long before age of ultron begins
fisk references meeting matt in the gallery "a few months ago"
do you think shield knows about the hand and kilgrave but are just too busy
There is a short appearance by what sure looks like SHIELD agents in Daredevil season 2.
Wait, when was that?
Episode 4 I think?
When Karen is looking through Frank's house, a van pulls up outside and agents step out.
This is right after Frank told someone about those agents with the suits and the earpiece and that just spelled out SHIELD to me.
What would keeping tabs on a war veteran who has no super powers but likes shooting gang members have to do with SHIELD?
Suspected Inhuman?
Remember in episode 1 everyone thought the Punisher was an entire squad. Maybe they sent some people over to make sure there aren't special abilities at work here.
Also it occurs to me that season 2 starts in an often-referenced heat wave, which would place it in the summer of 2016.
Which means the season happens after the events of AoS season 3 and Civil War.
Wonder what the politics are like at that point.
I think it's summer to christmas 2015, so slightly behind real time, with daredevil 1 taking place mostly in real time and ending not long before age of ultron begins
fisk references meeting matt in the gallery "a few months ago"
JJ takes place in fall/winter 2015 and DD season 2 is explicitly after that.
The guy next to me in the theater last night was asleep within the first 20 minutes, which I can totally understand since
the first half, minimum, was a lot of Snyder-"Deepness" and apologizing for/reacting to Man of Steel complaints. Good lord, you screwed up the end of the last movie, Marvel took a bunch of easy swipes at you for it, DON'T WASTE 40+ MINUTES OF THIS TRYING TO PLAY IT OFF!!! Accept that you fucked up and move on, they're like the jackass who is never wrong about anything and has to have the last word that everyone knows at least one of. Sooo many other problems:
1) You have one legitimately famous and talented actor here, Jeremy Irons. Let's give him just enough to say where he's a highlight of the movie, then disappear him for 98% of the run time. It's not like he's the only other Batman-related character in the movie or anything. Plus he was Scar! He deserves the most screen time just based on that!
2) I assume Snyder listened to the "DARKNESS....NO PARENTS....AAAAAHHHH" Batman song from the Lego Movie and figured everyone should develop from that start point. Yay!
3) Lois has picked up super-hearing, I guess. Otherwise, she just randomly decided to jump into a pit full of water and go fishing for the kryptonite spear for the hell of it. It certainly couldn't be a lazy way to power down Superman in order to kill him, not with these amazing writers...
4) I agree with Age of Ultron trying to cram to much foreshadowing in, but Jesus H., they didn't cut to black and stop just short of having an announcer say "Coming soon, from Warner Brothers...." followed by 5 minutes of trailers halfway through the movie. I didn't hate the nightmare sequence, or even the Flash warning (it could be cool if those got thrown in across the next few movies, then we see him leave to try to get to the past in JL 2. A nice COIE nod, I think), but at least be a little more creative. Show actual scenes of them reacting to the news out of Metropolis while in their own fights or something, minimum, not crap security cam footage of them buying milk and smirking creepily.
5) If Batman is cool with killing random gun-runners (its own huge issue, but not one that I think is even worth digging into and can accept in the midst of all this other bullshit), HOW THE FUCK IS THE JOKER STILL ALIVE? Side note, the "how many good guys stayed that way" line reeeeeally makes me hope that garbage-Joker is a Robin gone bad/crazy, I could at least be into that as a new twist to play out in neat ways.
6) I liked Wonder Woman. Of all the things they screwed up, this wasn't one for me. +1. Very close to the JL/JLU version to me, especially with the smile and jumping back into the fight after getting backhanded a couple blocks by Doomsday. And the battle yell!
7) LEX LUTHOR IS AWFUL. The rooftop scene was pretty good, and would have been great with someone we hadn't just watched stutter his way through every scene previous, or pantomime a bunch of stupid crap about the red capes. Kevin Spacey giving the speech before shoving Lois off the building would have been chilling, all Eisenberg did was make me wonder why Lois didn't just kick him in the nuts and get in the elevator. I'm sure they'll b.s. something together for a later installment about him being mentally linked to Darkseid or some similar threat, but his gibbering nonsense at the end made him even worse. A spastic loser has murdered Superman, mainly through a series of lucky accidents. Great status quo to start your universe with.
8) If Batman is two steps more hardened than he normally is, I refuse to believe hearing his mother's name is enough to send him into a traumatic relapse after he's "convinced" himself of the urgent need to kill Superman. Bleah. "My one weakness...simple coincidences...I've been so wrong...let's be friends!"
9) I could buy people not putting 2 and 2 together in the books, since Superman at various times didn't have a huge media presence beyond interviews with Lois. But he's plastered on everything here! The Planet has to be staffed by complete morons. My theory from Man of Steel is that all of Smallville knows who he is, but pretends to be clueless due to local solidarity. At a certain point, I thought at least Perry had figured it out, then they go out of their way to have him wonder out loud where Clark is during the whole second half.
This is DC's Amazing Spider-Man 2. And we've seen what that did for Sony. There's no chance this scuttles WB's plans going forward, but my main hope is they move up Affleck's Batman movie and give him control, Wonder Woman is good, Suicide Squad is as fun as it looks, and everything else gets rebuilt from the ground up. I've seen the excuse being that it's not for critics (wasn't there a strip about that here that led to a certain amazing cat and demon duo?), but I'd like to hope a unanimous shellacking from the media at least gets them to move closer to an acceptable guiding influence, i.e. anyone that would be considered an anti-Snyder. I'm going to say that with the right person at the helm, within ten or so movies they could build up to a great COIE movie that at least involves the TV properties that most people seem to like and also *gasp* manage to be fun while dealing with their dark stuff. Although we did get three or four jokes in BvS, by my count.
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I think Flash is better but they are going for different things and both are worth watching
Yeah nope nevermind, you're good to go
Season 3 has Powers Boothe, a robot hand and the best episode of the series so far (4,722 Hours).
he's basically played three different characters over the course of shield
Well he's also played Ward-charmed-by-Lorelei and Ward-the-Italian-speaking-train-guy and Ward-the-security-guard-seducing-glasses-spy-guy
He's playing 15 characters actually, just there's still 12 to be revealed!
My boss came in to basically say "go home early have a great weekend" and I was noodling over what to do, one option of which - kind of instinctively - was maybe go to the movies. This thought was immediately and sincerely followed up with "well there isn't really anything out" and then minutes later I remembered that today was opening day for BvS.
So despite multiple threads now of talking at length about BvS, I forgot about its existence almost immediately. I found that kind of crazy and just wanted to get it off my chest for whatever reason.
There is a short appearance by what sure looks like SHIELD agents in Daredevil season 2.
TWO EYEPATCHES
Wait, when was that?
the fact that there are now TV series to account for has to make it way harder
I wanna see it cut from the Avengers fighting Ultrons in Markovia to Foggy giving an impassioned speech to SHIELD talking about the Inhumans
or like, the end of Agent Carter -> Wilson Fisk's childhood -> Matt Murdock as a kid -> 2000 New Year's party in Bern -> Matt meets Elektra (I probably skipped a ton of stuff there)
I mean, only in theory, because that's a ton of shit to watch
like oh yeah Jessica Jones has to meet Kilgrave at some point in the middle of that too
Episode 4 I think?
This is right after Frank told someone about those agents with the suits and the earpiece and that just spelled out SHIELD to me.
Huh.
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Because there are no real-world suits with earpieces organizations.
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They all meet at Burning Man. Scooby and Shaggy are there for the festival and the drugs, Fred and Daphne are fading YouTube stars who have a Mythbusters esque show and are looking for a supposed government think tank hidden underneath the desert and Velma is a kid in said think tank which accidentally opens a gateway to hell.
My god
Might be able to give him a scratch though
Remember in episode 1 everyone thought the Punisher was an entire squad. Maybe they sent some people over to make sure there aren't special abilities at work here.
Also it occurs to me that season 2 starts in an often-referenced heat wave, which would place it in the summer of 2016.
Which means the season happens after the events of AoS season 3 and Civil War.
Wonder what the politics are like at that point.
There is also all that stuff
Seems way more likely they would be Feds or even
And also a lot of downvotes.
Not too many fans of Undertale amongst DC moviegoers I guess. :P
I think I'd like more cross-references than the show makers are comfortable with making. There's a ton of shit linking to Jessica Jones but nothing to the movies or ABC series. No shots of the Avengers Tower or anything either.
My favorite bit of the pre-reveal Ward stuff is in the Lorelai and Sif episode. If you take the editing as chronological, he pulls the trigger on May AFTER Lorelai's mind control is broken. Like, he saw the opportunity to plausibly remove the biggest physical threat to him in that split second and took it. Of course, you know, gun was empty, but he still managed to get it chalked up the Asgardinan ju-ju that was supposedly in his head.
They are actually thinking of doing the whole fan theory of the Jetsons and Flintstones living in the same world but with the Jetsons in the clouds having time traveled to the stone age for some reason
They want Judy Jetson and Wilma Flintstone to be related
Fred has to fight off their pet Sabretooth from actually eating their infant daughter every time they're together
Mutley in Wacky Raceland is now a cyborg
Give me a little context here, please.
fisk references meeting matt in the gallery "a few months ago"
JJ takes place in fall/winter 2015 and DD season 2 is explicitly after that.
Oh OK
What came of that Gambit and Quicksilver's book?
1) You have one legitimately famous and talented actor here, Jeremy Irons. Let's give him just enough to say where he's a highlight of the movie, then disappear him for 98% of the run time. It's not like he's the only other Batman-related character in the movie or anything. Plus he was Scar! He deserves the most screen time just based on that!
2) I assume Snyder listened to the "DARKNESS....NO PARENTS....AAAAAHHHH" Batman song from the Lego Movie and figured everyone should develop from that start point. Yay!
3) Lois has picked up super-hearing, I guess. Otherwise, she just randomly decided to jump into a pit full of water and go fishing for the kryptonite spear for the hell of it. It certainly couldn't be a lazy way to power down Superman in order to kill him, not with these amazing writers...
4) I agree with Age of Ultron trying to cram to much foreshadowing in, but Jesus H., they didn't cut to black and stop just short of having an announcer say "Coming soon, from Warner Brothers...." followed by 5 minutes of trailers halfway through the movie. I didn't hate the nightmare sequence, or even the Flash warning (it could be cool if those got thrown in across the next few movies, then we see him leave to try to get to the past in JL 2. A nice COIE nod, I think), but at least be a little more creative. Show actual scenes of them reacting to the news out of Metropolis while in their own fights or something, minimum, not crap security cam footage of them buying milk and smirking creepily.
5) If Batman is cool with killing random gun-runners (its own huge issue, but not one that I think is even worth digging into and can accept in the midst of all this other bullshit), HOW THE FUCK IS THE JOKER STILL ALIVE? Side note, the "how many good guys stayed that way" line reeeeeally makes me hope that garbage-Joker is a Robin gone bad/crazy, I could at least be into that as a new twist to play out in neat ways.
6) I liked Wonder Woman. Of all the things they screwed up, this wasn't one for me. +1. Very close to the JL/JLU version to me, especially with the smile and jumping back into the fight after getting backhanded a couple blocks by Doomsday. And the battle yell!
7) LEX LUTHOR IS AWFUL. The rooftop scene was pretty good, and would have been great with someone we hadn't just watched stutter his way through every scene previous, or pantomime a bunch of stupid crap about the red capes. Kevin Spacey giving the speech before shoving Lois off the building would have been chilling, all Eisenberg did was make me wonder why Lois didn't just kick him in the nuts and get in the elevator. I'm sure they'll b.s. something together for a later installment about him being mentally linked to Darkseid or some similar threat, but his gibbering nonsense at the end made him even worse. A spastic loser has murdered Superman, mainly through a series of lucky accidents. Great status quo to start your universe with.
8) If Batman is two steps more hardened than he normally is, I refuse to believe hearing his mother's name is enough to send him into a traumatic relapse after he's "convinced" himself of the urgent need to kill Superman. Bleah. "My one weakness...simple coincidences...I've been so wrong...let's be friends!"
9) I could buy people not putting 2 and 2 together in the books, since Superman at various times didn't have a huge media presence beyond interviews with Lois. But he's plastered on everything here! The Planet has to be staffed by complete morons. My theory from Man of Steel is that all of Smallville knows who he is, but pretends to be clueless due to local solidarity. At a certain point, I thought at least Perry had figured it out, then they go out of their way to have him wonder out loud where Clark is during the whole second half.
This is DC's Amazing Spider-Man 2. And we've seen what that did for Sony. There's no chance this scuttles WB's plans going forward, but my main hope is they move up Affleck's Batman movie and give him control, Wonder Woman is good, Suicide Squad is as fun as it looks, and everything else gets rebuilt from the ground up. I've seen the excuse being that it's not for critics (wasn't there a strip about that here that led to a certain amazing cat and demon duo?), but I'd like to hope a unanimous shellacking from the media at least gets them to move closer to an acceptable guiding influence, i.e. anyone that would be considered an anti-Snyder. I'm going to say that with the right person at the helm, within ten or so movies they could build up to a great COIE movie that at least involves the TV properties that most people seem to like and also *gasp* manage to be fun while dealing with their dark stuff. Although we did get three or four jokes in BvS, by my count.