Showing up at E3 with nothing to announce only 9 months prior to launch seems like such a weird strategy to me. If it turns out Nintendo are just saying March to keep their shareholders happy and are actually intending on delaying it into their next fiscal year, I wouldn't be surprised.
Meanwhile they go bankrupt not releasing any software for Wii U in the mean time :P All of their development has already shifted to NX which is why you're only seeing garbage shoveware out of them right now. They can't keep sustaining that ANOTHER year
They really could though. They are making enough money from Amiibo and cross promotions that they'll be fine (fine being a relative term). It might not be the best decision, but it is very unlikely that they could bankrupt themselves in a year, even if they tried.
Well, it might be the only game that attendees can play, but I imagine they're gonna have Treehouse Live again this year where they'll show off other games.
I hope so!
The shareholders would revolt and the company as a whole would lose a LOT of good faith with its fans.
My personal guess is they wanted to launch in November but some hardware issue (not able to produce enough, etc) is making it impossible.
Though I suppose it could be seen as "none of our other games are worth playing, which is why we didn't bring them along for you to play!".
No matter what they announce, Zelda is gonna be the game people will be the most interested in by far and the one they want to play the most, though I don't understand where the harm would've been in allowing attendees to play some other games as well.
Showing up at E3 with nothing to announce only 9 months prior to launch seems like such a weird strategy to me. If it turns out Nintendo are just saying March to keep their shareholders happy and are actually intending on delaying it into their next fiscal year, I wouldn't be surprised.
Meanwhile they go bankrupt not releasing any software for Wii U in the mean time :P All of their development has already shifted to NX which is why you're only seeing garbage shoveware out of them right now. They can't keep sustaining that ANOTHER year
They really could though. They are making enough money from Amiibo and cross promotions that they'll be fine (fine being a relative term). It might not be the best decision, but it is very unlikely that they could bankrupt themselves in a year, even if they tried.
Well, it might be the only game that attendees can play, but I imagine they're gonna have Treehouse Live again this year where they'll show off other games.
I hope so!
The shareholders would revolt and the company as a whole would lose a LOT of good faith with its fans.
My personal guess is they wanted to launch in November but some hardware issue (not able to produce enough, etc) is making it impossible.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with the approach in the slightest. If Sony and MS hype up their .5 systems at E3, Nintendo is going to look really bad. Especially if those systems launch before the NX does.
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Though I suppose it could be seen as "none of our other games are worth playing, which is why we didn't bring them along for you to play!".
No matter what they announce, Zelda is gonna be the game people will be the most interested in by far and the one they want to play the most, though I don't understand where the harm would've been in allowing attendees to play some other games as well.
One thing I'm wondering now... Is this just for the show floor? I wonder if press will be able to play other titles in private. If that is the case, this may make sense. I recall the Smash Bros e3 they had very few other playable games. Makes sense to have most TVs playing the one game everyone is visiting the booth to play to keep lines down...
#FE comes out a week after E3. Why wouldn't you at least have that playable and have a final showing off of it?
I really hope there's more, or just... something. But the way they're wording it the focus is just going to be on Zelda and little else.
Which wouldn't be that bad an idea... IF the Wii U version was this year, and they were releasing the NX version next year at launch. But it's feeling more and more like the Wii U version is getting held back because of the NX. Which might not be true, but that's certainly what it feels like. Why are you dedicating your E3 to a game that's damn near a year out? At least show off some NX stuff then. The wait is exactly the same!
And what's really pissing me off is how hypocritical I am now. Because I gave Sony some flak for doing the same exact thing. Wooo, FFVII remake that's at least 2 years out. Big whoop, call me in 2017 when there's something to really show off.
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Though I suppose it could be seen as "none of our other games are worth playing, which is why we didn't bring them along for you to play!".
No matter what they announce, Zelda is gonna be the game people will be the most interested in by far and the one they want to play the most, though I don't understand where the harm would've been in allowing attendees to play some other games as well.
One thing I'm wondering now... Is this just for the show floor? I wonder if press will be able to play other titles in private. If that is the case, this may make sense. I recall the Smash Bros e3 they had very few other playable games. Makes sense to have most TVs playing the one game everyone is visiting the booth to play to keep lines down...
Yeah, that's also possible.
I'm starting to wonder if might have something else planned - maybe a separate event before or after E3 where people can play upcoming games.
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Holy crap that was a kick in the nuts this morning. I saw it on trending news on Facebook and i was like "no way." And then spent that low-work period of the morning before my boss shows up wading through the bloodbath on GAF.
According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
I think i'm just a dumb. Putting the game code between those tags doesn't work that way but I notice Brainiacs post has a code that is way longer than the codes I received. Or maybe I had to select the bundle as a gift?
Holy crap that was a kick in the nuts this morning. I saw it on trending news on Facebook and i was like "no way." And then spent that low-work period of the morning before my boss shows up wading through the bloodbath on GAF.
According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
No one said that Zelda would be their only game at E3. Just their only one playable on the show floor.
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Federation Force has been in the works since the DS. I think Nintendo just wants it released so they can stop spending money on it. Pooping it out quick, as it were.
As for Zelda, I agree with @RidleySaria that it's bizarre the only playable game is one that we have no hope of seeing this year. It's bizarre even for Nintendo.
Anyone who preordered Starfox Zero from Amazon and didn't get the First Print Edition:
I'm in Ireland, so this is to do with Amazon.co.uk and your mileage may vary.
I got the standard edition in the post on Monday, having preordered in late January. Obviously I was expecting the First Print Edition, and scumbag resellers are selling that edition for literally double the price. Scumbags.
However, I complained to Amazon. I was clear and:
Mentioned the resellers doubling the price.
Told them I opened the game before I knew, so now can't return it.
Was respectful, while using words like disappointed and frustrated, no "OMG, you fuxxored me!"
Amazon are now sending me the First Print Edition free of charge, and do not want the original back, so I can sell that on or trade or whatever. Result! If you found yourself in the same position as me, complain respectfully and maybe it'll work out for you too!
Gonna post this in the Starfox Zero thread too.
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Holy crap that was a kick in the nuts this morning. I saw it on trending news on Facebook and i was like "no way." And then spent that low-work period of the morning before my boss shows up wading through the bloodbath on GAF.
According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
No one said that Zelda would be their only game at E3. Just their only one playable on the show floor.
It amounts to almost the same thing, though. The only game that would benefit from a non-playable Direct explanation is Sun and Moon, since we know nothing about it (which makes me think they'll wait and do its own PR presser for a fuller reveal since The Pokemon Company runs by its own schedule). Everything else we know enough about it that more video isn't going to convince anyway, a la Federation Force, Monster Hunter Generations, #FE, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kirby Robobot, and Color Splash.
Which now that i type it out is an okay lineup as a whole. Awful for Wii U in particular, but i'll likely play MH Generations for two months straight all on its own.
But still, people need to PLAY these games to get a better understanding of them at this point. Not having that be the case makes no sense.
Showing up at E3 with nothing to announce only 9 months prior to launch seems like such a weird strategy to me. If it turns out Nintendo are just saying March to keep their shareholders happy and are actually intending on delaying it into their next fiscal year, I wouldn't be surprised.
Now, they haven't said they aren't announcing anything, only that Zelda will be the only playable thing - when that famous brawl trailer happened, it wasn't playable
To be honest, as far as it matters to me, they have never had anything playable at e3 since I've never been to one
I meant nothing to announce related to the NX. I'm sure there'll be some (relatively minor) Wii U and 3DS stuff announced there but it's not what most people really want to hear. At best, I guess there might be some more cross-gen games like Zelda.
Showing up at E3 with nothing to announce only 9 months prior to launch seems like such a weird strategy to me. If it turns out Nintendo are just saying March to keep their shareholders happy and are actually intending on delaying it into their next fiscal year, I wouldn't be surprised.
Meanwhile they go bankrupt not releasing any software for Wii U in the mean time :P All of their development has already shifted to NX which is why you're only seeing garbage shoveware out of them right now. They can't keep sustaining that ANOTHER year
They really could though. They are making enough money from Amiibo and cross promotions that they'll be fine (fine being a relative term). It might not be the best decision, but it is very unlikely that they could bankrupt themselves in a year, even if they tried.
Well, it might be the only game that attendees can play, but I imagine they're gonna have Treehouse Live again this year where they'll show off other games.
I hope so!
The shareholders would revolt and the company as a whole would lose a LOT of good faith with its fans.
My personal guess is they wanted to launch in November but some hardware issue (not able to produce enough, etc) is making it impossible.
Which is why delays to new fiscal years are usually handled in this way. You don't just delay straight to the next fiscal year, you delay to the end of the current fiscal year and then wait for the best opportunity to delay it even further. It happens all the time with games, but not with consoles, which is why I'm still not sure about it, it just wouldn't catch me by surprise.
That said, if it does end up coming out in March, it's so weird that the NXs first E3 will be AFTER it's already launched. I don't think that's a good idea but I guess we'll see.
Holy crap that was a kick in the nuts this morning. I saw it on trending news on Facebook and i was like "no way." And then spent that low-work period of the morning before my boss shows up wading through the bloodbath on GAF.
According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
No one said that Zelda would be their only game at E3. Just their only one playable on the show floor.
It amounts to almost the same thing, though. The only game that would benefit from a non-playable Direct explanation is Sun and Moon, since we know nothing about it (which makes me think they'll wait and do its own PR presser for a fuller reveal since The Pokemon Company runs by its own schedule). Everything else we know enough about it that more video isn't going to convince anyway, a la Federation Force, Monster Hunter Generations, #FE, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kirby Robobot, and Color Splash.
Which now that i type it out is an okay lineup as a whole. Awful for Wii U in particular, but i'll likely play MH Generations for two months straight all on its own.
But still, people need to PLAY these games to get a better understanding of them at this point. Not having that be the case makes no sense.
How many people are actually able to attend E3 though? Like, out of the millions of people who are interested in the new Zelda game, only, what, a couple of thousand will be able to play it at E3. That's a miniscule amount.
I don't think Nintendo much cares about E3 in all honesty. They seem to prefer to circulate their info via Directs, which they can put out whenever they want to and which get massive coverage anyways. It allows them to control the narrative much more than an E3 presentation.
Basically they can put out an NX direct at any point between here and March and get the information out there when they want it, instead of being tied to E3. Hell even with E3 they tend to do digital presentations anyways.
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Holy crap that was a kick in the nuts this morning. I saw it on trending news on Facebook and i was like "no way." And then spent that low-work period of the morning before my boss shows up wading through the bloodbath on GAF.
According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
No one said that Zelda would be their only game at E3. Just their only one playable on the show floor.
It amounts to almost the same thing, though. The only game that would benefit from a non-playable Direct explanation is Sun and Moon, since we know nothing about it (which makes me think they'll wait and do its own PR presser for a fuller reveal since The Pokemon Company runs by its own schedule). Everything else we know enough about it that more video isn't going to convince anyway, a la Federation Force, Monster Hunter Generations, #FE, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kirby Robobot, and Color Splash.
Which now that i type it out is an okay lineup as a whole. Awful for Wii U in particular, but i'll likely play MH Generations for two months straight all on its own.
But still, people need to PLAY these games to get a better understanding of them at this point. Not having that be the case makes no sense.
How many people are actually able to attend E3 though? Like, out of the millions of people who are interested in the new Zelda game, only, what, a couple of thousand will be able to play it at E3. That's a miniscule amount.
Journalist writeups from show-floor play experiences can help answer questions that were unanswered at the actual events, or in the case of Nintendo and Treehouse, we get to see more and have things explained in better detail.
Holy crap that was a kick in the nuts this morning. I saw it on trending news on Facebook and i was like "no way." And then spent that low-work period of the morning before my boss shows up wading through the bloodbath on GAF.
According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
No one said that Zelda would be their only game at E3. Just their only one playable on the show floor.
It amounts to almost the same thing, though. The only game that would benefit from a non-playable Direct explanation is Sun and Moon, since we know nothing about it (which makes me think they'll wait and do its own PR presser for a fuller reveal since The Pokemon Company runs by its own schedule). Everything else we know enough about it that more video isn't going to convince anyway, a la Federation Force, Monster Hunter Generations, #FE, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kirby Robobot, and Color Splash.
Which now that i type it out is an okay lineup as a whole. Awful for Wii U in particular, but i'll likely play MH Generations for two months straight all on its own.
But still, people need to PLAY these games to get a better understanding of them at this point. Not having that be the case makes no sense.
Why? Kirby is mostly similar to Triple Deluxe (and will be out by E3). MHG is more or less MH4. the DQ remakes are known entities as well. TMS is also going to be out in the same month. The only game there I can see benefitting at all is Color Splash.
So it looks like after I finish Tokyo Mirage Sessions I can go ahead and sell my Wii U.
Zelda was the one thing I was really hanging on to it for. Might as well get an NX to play it on.
Although, if NX is going to end up like Wii U where I play a game for 2 weeks then wait another 4 months for another game, I may skip it.
I've never understood the impetus to sell a system just because there aren't new games coming out for it. And this isn't exclusive to Nintendo systems, but, for example with the Wii U, I can see myself playing Splatoon, Mario Kart 8, and Mario Maker for a long time. I don't need new games to continue to get value out of my purchase. Then again, I'm the person that still has every system I've ever owned, starting with an Atari 2600.
It depends on what sort of games you prefer to play.
Some people prefer games that go on forever.
Others prefer games that definitively end at a certain point.
Well, I know not everyone is like this, but I also like to replay games that have an ending. So when I want to revisit Twilight Princess, Wind Waker, Mario Galaxy, or Metroid Prime, I'll need a WiiU for that.
Or ... a Wii and a Gamecube? This is actually a great argument to sell the Wii U.
I don't think Nintendo much cares about E3 in all honesty. They seem to prefer to circulate their info via Directs, which they can put out whenever they want to and which get massive coverage anyways. It allows them to control the narrative much more than an E3 presentation.
They seem to be doing a bang up job controlling the narrative right now, huh?
Holy crap that was a kick in the nuts this morning. I saw it on trending news on Facebook and i was like "no way." And then spent that low-work period of the morning before my boss shows up wading through the bloodbath on GAF.
According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
No one said that Zelda would be their only game at E3. Just their only one playable on the show floor.
It amounts to almost the same thing, though. The only game that would benefit from a non-playable Direct explanation is Sun and Moon, since we know nothing about it (which makes me think they'll wait and do its own PR presser for a fuller reveal since The Pokemon Company runs by its own schedule). Everything else we know enough about it that more video isn't going to convince anyway, a la Federation Force, Monster Hunter Generations, #FE, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kirby Robobot, and Color Splash.
Which now that i type it out is an okay lineup as a whole. Awful for Wii U in particular, but i'll likely play MH Generations for two months straight all on its own.
But still, people need to PLAY these games to get a better understanding of them at this point. Not having that be the case makes no sense.
Why? Kirby is mostly similar to Triple Deluxe (and will be out by E3). MHG is more or less MH4. the DQ remakes are known entities as well. TMS is also going to be out in the same month. The only game there I can see benefitting at all is Color Splash.
Flat out I think most journalists have Kirby right now. GameXplain just did a live stream of it today and I am seeing tweets indicating others have copies as well. May be the Japanese version (which might be out? I don't remember when that releases).
Hands on time at e3 is really only useful for games that are a ways out still (so maybe Color Splash)
I don't think Nintendo much cares about E3 in all honesty. They seem to prefer to circulate their info via Directs, which they can put out whenever they want to and which get massive coverage anyways. It allows them to control the narrative much more than an E3 presentation.
They seem to be doing a bang up job controlling the narrative right now, huh?
Depends on what their goal is. The narrative isn't whatever information you want it to be, it's whatever information they want it to be. For all I know this could be exactly how they want it to play out right now, or not.
In either case they've shown at the last few E3 events that they pretty much want to do their own thing anyways. We expect bug announcements at E3 because that's hat typically happens, but what if they don't want to announce something at that time of the year? Should they be forced to do so because that's when E3 is? Or should they announce it when they want to announce it? At a time they feel is best?
I'm not huge on the idea of developers bending over backwards to force stuff out at E3 just because it's E3, too often we get shitty announcements for stuff too far in advance because of it.
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This doesn't surprise me in the least.
When asked why Nintendo wasn’t launching the NX in time for this year’s big holiday season, Kimishima explained that Nintendo wanted to make sure there were games to go along with the NX.
So the games weren't ready yet, and I'm pretty sure the culprit is Zelda. I think they want to make sure it's ready for launch plus whatever else they have planned for launch.
I don't think Nintendo much cares about E3 in all honesty. They seem to prefer to circulate their info via Directs, which they can put out whenever they want to and which get massive coverage anyways. It allows them to control the narrative much more than an E3 presentation.
Basically they can put out an NX direct at any point between here and March and get the information out there when they want it, instead of being tied to E3. Hell even with E3 they tend to do digital presentations anyways.
Snubbing Gamer Christmas just reinforces the narrative that Nintendo is out of touch with the industry.
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The shareholders would revolt and the company as a whole would lose a LOT of good faith with its fans.
My personal guess is they wanted to launch in November but some hardware issue (not able to produce enough, etc) is making it impossible.
No matter what they announce, Zelda is gonna be the game people will be the most interested in by far and the one they want to play the most, though I don't understand where the harm would've been in allowing attendees to play some other games as well.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't agree with the approach in the slightest. If Sony and MS hype up their .5 systems at E3, Nintendo is going to look really bad. Especially if those systems launch before the NX does.
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One thing I'm wondering now... Is this just for the show floor? I wonder if press will be able to play other titles in private. If that is the case, this may make sense. I recall the Smash Bros e3 they had very few other playable games. Makes sense to have most TVs playing the one game everyone is visiting the booth to play to keep lines down...
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I really hope there's more, or just... something. But the way they're wording it the focus is just going to be on Zelda and little else.
Which wouldn't be that bad an idea... IF the Wii U version was this year, and they were releasing the NX version next year at launch. But it's feeling more and more like the Wii U version is getting held back because of the NX. Which might not be true, but that's certainly what it feels like. Why are you dedicating your E3 to a game that's damn near a year out? At least show off some NX stuff then. The wait is exactly the same!
And what's really pissing me off is how hypocritical I am now. Because I gave Sony some flak for doing the same exact thing. Wooo, FFVII remake that's at least 2 years out. Big whoop, call me in 2017 when there's something to really show off.
Yeah, that's also possible.
I'm starting to wonder if might have something else planned - maybe a separate event before or after E3 where people can play upcoming games.
If NX and Zelda are both now 2017, and they're not showing NX at E3, what are they even doing
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According to an insider there, Nintendo's revised their E3 floorplans. The old plan was much larger, so it looks like they made a late decision to punt the console. The lack of acknowledgement makes me nervous that they could run into more problems and that it could slide into FY 18, although investors would have Kimishima's head on a pike if they went a full fiscal year with basically just the mobile stuff and the new Pokemon game and next to nothing else.
The decision to delay Zelda is also odd, unless they really do think they need the time. They could double-dip from the dedicated fans getting them to buy it this holiday, and then getting them to buy it again. I think a simultaneous release is going to lower sales potential instead of raise it.
The utter lack of titles at E3 makes me think something's up, though. Not promoting Sun and Moon, not giving more hands on time with Federation Force even though only positive hands-on impressions could possibly save it from megabomb status, i think they're going to have a Spaceworld type event for NX and get some of these little-known games (along with Paper Mario Color Splash) out into the world.
This makes me wonder if they're even going to have a direct this year. Just do Zelda Treehouse for a few hours one day and call it.
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I think i'm just a dumb. Putting the game code between those tags doesn't work that way but I notice Brainiacs post has a code that is way longer than the codes I received. Or maybe I had to select the bundle as a gift?
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Just do this, only with no gap in the first part. It's super easy. That way only PA folks can take them.
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Awesome. Got my post in the 3ds thread fixed now. Appears only two of them are left!
No one said that Zelda would be their only game at E3. Just their only one playable on the show floor.
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I am becoming increasingly convinced that Nintendo is simply in denial about this.
That still doesn't solve the "First person gets it" problem.
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Let's be honest, after last e3 it's probably in their best interest to not even mention Federation Force at this year's show :P
Also nothing is going to save that game from bombing hard.
As for Zelda, I agree with @RidleySaria that it's bizarre the only playable game is one that we have no hope of seeing this year. It's bizarre even for Nintendo.
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I'm in Ireland, so this is to do with Amazon.co.uk and your mileage may vary.
I got the standard edition in the post on Monday, having preordered in late January. Obviously I was expecting the First Print Edition, and scumbag resellers are selling that edition for literally double the price. Scumbags.
However, I complained to Amazon. I was clear and:
Mentioned the resellers doubling the price.
Told them I opened the game before I knew, so now can't return it.
Was respectful, while using words like disappointed and frustrated, no "OMG, you fuxxored me!"
Amazon are now sending me the First Print Edition free of charge, and do not want the original back, so I can sell that on or trade or whatever. Result! If you found yourself in the same position as me, complain respectfully and maybe it'll work out for you too!
Gonna post this in the Starfox Zero thread too.
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I would be legitimately surprised if Nintendo actually had enough self-awareness to realize this.
It amounts to almost the same thing, though. The only game that would benefit from a non-playable Direct explanation is Sun and Moon, since we know nothing about it (which makes me think they'll wait and do its own PR presser for a fuller reveal since The Pokemon Company runs by its own schedule). Everything else we know enough about it that more video isn't going to convince anyway, a la Federation Force, Monster Hunter Generations, #FE, the Dragon Quest remakes, Kirby Robobot, and Color Splash.
Which now that i type it out is an okay lineup as a whole. Awful for Wii U in particular, but i'll likely play MH Generations for two months straight all on its own.
But still, people need to PLAY these games to get a better understanding of them at this point. Not having that be the case makes no sense.
I meant nothing to announce related to the NX. I'm sure there'll be some (relatively minor) Wii U and 3DS stuff announced there but it's not what most people really want to hear. At best, I guess there might be some more cross-gen games like Zelda.
Which is why delays to new fiscal years are usually handled in this way. You don't just delay straight to the next fiscal year, you delay to the end of the current fiscal year and then wait for the best opportunity to delay it even further. It happens all the time with games, but not with consoles, which is why I'm still not sure about it, it just wouldn't catch me by surprise.
That said, if it does end up coming out in March, it's so weird that the NXs first E3 will be AFTER it's already launched. I don't think that's a good idea but I guess we'll see.
How many people are actually able to attend E3 though? Like, out of the millions of people who are interested in the new Zelda game, only, what, a couple of thousand will be able to play it at E3. That's a miniscule amount.
Basically they can put out an NX direct at any point between here and March and get the information out there when they want it, instead of being tied to E3. Hell even with E3 they tend to do digital presentations anyways.
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Journalist writeups from show-floor play experiences can help answer questions that were unanswered at the actual events, or in the case of Nintendo and Treehouse, we get to see more and have things explained in better detail.
Why? Kirby is mostly similar to Triple Deluxe (and will be out by E3). MHG is more or less MH4. the DQ remakes are known entities as well. TMS is also going to be out in the same month. The only game there I can see benefitting at all is Color Splash.
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Or ... a Wii and a Gamecube? This is actually a great argument to sell the Wii U.
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They seem to be doing a bang up job controlling the narrative right now, huh?
Flat out I think most journalists have Kirby right now. GameXplain just did a live stream of it today and I am seeing tweets indicating others have copies as well. May be the Japanese version (which might be out? I don't remember when that releases).
Hands on time at e3 is really only useful for games that are a ways out still (so maybe Color Splash)
Depends on what their goal is. The narrative isn't whatever information you want it to be, it's whatever information they want it to be. For all I know this could be exactly how they want it to play out right now, or not.
In either case they've shown at the last few E3 events that they pretty much want to do their own thing anyways. We expect bug announcements at E3 because that's hat typically happens, but what if they don't want to announce something at that time of the year? Should they be forced to do so because that's when E3 is? Or should they announce it when they want to announce it? At a time they feel is best?
I'm not huge on the idea of developers bending over backwards to force stuff out at E3 just because it's E3, too often we get shitty announcements for stuff too far in advance because of it.
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http://kotaku.com/nintendo-new-nx-console-will-be-out-march-2017-1773312629
So the games weren't ready yet, and I'm pretty sure the culprit is Zelda. I think they want to make sure it's ready for launch plus whatever else they have planned for launch.
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Snubbing Gamer Christmas just reinforces the narrative that Nintendo is out of touch with the industry.
*sigh*