Justin Kroll says that Michael Keaton dropped out of Spider-Man because he was asking for a pretty big chunk of change and after RDJ officially signed on they could no longer afford him.
I'm surprised it took RDJ, Keaton doesn't strike me as a "big chunk of change" get for a movie. I'd have imagined the casting conversation would have gone like "Let's get Michael Keaton." "He wants a lot of money." "OK, let's not."
The man was the star of the last two Best Picture winners
Michael Keaton is one of the top prestige actors now
Yeah, but in those two years he was also in Minions and Need For Speed.
I dunno, neither Birdman nor Spotlight struck me as Michael Keaton movies, but if he can get that kind of moolah now then go for it.
movies starring michael keaton did not strike you as michael keaton movies?
Justin Kroll says that Michael Keaton dropped out of Spider-Man because he was asking for a pretty big chunk of change and after RDJ officially signed on they could no longer afford him.
I'm surprised it took RDJ, Keaton doesn't strike me as a "big chunk of change" get for a movie. I'd have imagined the casting conversation would have gone like "Let's get Michael Keaton." "He wants a lot of money." "OK, let's not."
The man was the star of the last two Best Picture winners
Michael Keaton is one of the top prestige actors now
Yeah, but in those two years he was also in Minions and Need For Speed.
I dunno, neither Birdman nor Spotlight struck me as Michael Keaton movies, but if he can get that kind of moolah now then go for it.
The Inhumans are gonna be the first really big continuity stumbling block for the MCU, I think
They've been built as a big enough issue in AoS that they can't just act like no one knew about them, but they also probably aren't going to build a movie around the Inhuman plot from AoS so it is a very tricky situation
you just need to include the concept that stray inhumans outside of attilan have existed for a long time and been widely noticed in the past few years, you don't need to go into detail on the events of agents of shield
when medusa is talking to the UN or whatever and they mention how inhumans have been a threat she can say that they do not represent attilan
You know, I watched Winter Soldier again a couple nights ago
And as cool as it is that they got him to be in it, he is not super invested in being there
You know, I watched Winter Soldier again a couple nights ago
And as cool as it is that they got him to be in it, he is not super invested in being there
Yeah, but he still did a pretty good job
He could have REALLY phoned it in
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Birdman felt like an Inarritu movie the same way that, say, Antichrist felt like a Lars von Trier movie. Keaton was a big part of it, obviously, but between him and Inarritu, it seemed like only one of them were absolutely necessary for that movie to be made.
Spotlight was an ensemble cast and, granted, I haven't actually seen it but it didn't come off as a Michael Keaton vehicle (none of the acting nominations were his, for instance).
I'm not saying he was bad in those movies or anything, they just didn't strike me as the sort of movies that elevates someone into the Hollywood top tier.
It's probably pretty telling that even when Redford doesn't really care, he has like, a base level of charisma and good acting that still comes through
The Inhumans are gonna be the first really big continuity stumbling block for the MCU, I think
They've been built as a big enough issue in AoS that they can't just act like no one knew about them, but they also probably aren't going to build a movie around the Inhuman plot from AoS so it is a very tricky situation
I mean, we're talking about 2019 if not 2020. If Fiege does wind up with the CEO position, we'll probably see a unification of Marvels' TV and film endeavors. Especially since it'll be post Infinity War which has to at least have some acknowledgement of the full MCU.
But, if not, they can kinda gloss over things depending on how the story goes.
All they need to explain is Inhuman descendants + Terrigen = Inhumans and that the number of inhumans has exponentially increased due to Terrigen contaminating the Earth. You don't need to explain specifically that a splinter branch of SHIELD fought some Inhuman extremists and knocked their magic transformation crystals into the ocean where they contaminated some fish, which got eaten by the populace and started making Inhumans pop up everywhere.
Just "This is what makes inhumans, there are now a lot of inhumans."
casting a tibetan person as a tibetan character would be bad, because asserting tibet's identity would alienate china's money
making the ancient one not tibetan would be bad, because it erases his history
casting a chinese person as a tibetan character would be bad, because it's racistly conflating nationalities, particularly between two nationalities with some rather strained political relationships
and also no matter what you do, you still have the fundamental story of dr strange's origin being a white man adopting exotic asian magic to become a savior
so the way they decided to lose was to just go with an actress they really liked, tilda swinton
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The Inhumans are gonna be the first really big continuity stumbling block for the MCU, I think
They've been built as a big enough issue in AoS that they can't just act like no one knew about them, but they also probably aren't going to build a movie around the Inhuman plot from AoS so it is a very tricky situation
"nobody knew except the characters on Agents of Shield and nobody knows who those people are"
They've had the President of the United States deliver a public address to the nation on the Inhuman situation
It isn't a secret thing
That they exist as a group of random superpowered unaligned individuals isn't a secret thing, but if they have Medusa and Blackbolt leading a whole advanced society of inhumans that will be a surprise.
Yeah but by the time Inhumans comes out they will have been an established thing in the MCU for 4-5 years
Like, the issue comes from the movies not acknowledging AoS or any TV stuff at all
Which is understandable because they cast a far wider net than the TV audience of the shows and need to stand on their own
So they either are going to have to go HEY YEAH HOW ABOUT THOSE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF SUPERHUMANS THAT HAVE BEEN POPPING UP FOR YEARS DUE TO ALIEN GENETIC TAMPERING EARLY IN HUMAN HISTORY and blindside the movie audience or just ignore what AoS has done
The movie Push seemed to pull it off.
Push isn't part of an ongoing universe that has been going for 8 years and will have cleared a decade by then
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Audiences don't need everything spoon fed to them but it would be pretty weird for there to be a whole alien superhuman crisis that has been going on for years to be introduced without being mentioned or set up in any other film before it
Having a nation of Superhumans suddenly appear would definitely count as something new and different from a bunch of otherwise unconnected people gaining powers in roughly the same manner. Right now the inhumans are just an acceleration of what was already happening in the MCU.
It's something they've been building up since Iron Man 2, this idea that there are a bunch of people who were getting powers and weird events happening behind the scene and SHIELD was only just managing to keep a lid on it. They also built it up in Winter Soldier. Just having a bunch of people undergoing terrigenesis isn't a drastic change to that status quo, it just means that there are more of them.
But having a group of superhumans declare that not only are they their own nation, but they're fully capable of defending themselves, is basically the worst case scenario for the various countries right now. Not even touching on the idea of a millennia old secret nation is basically a conspiracy theory bananza.
People with powers, not a secret or something new. An ancient hidden nation that is made up a superpowered individuals and with advanced technology is definitely a secret still and is something new.
after much deliberation, this would be my marvel a to z
a is for american eagle
b is for bi-beast
c is for cardiac
d is for daimon hellstrom
e is for ego the living planet
f is for forbrush man
g is for ghost rider 2099
h is for hardcore
i is for ice wizard
j is for jack of hearts
k is for killpower
l is for lady octopus
m is for man-thing
n is for nfl superpro
o is for obnoxio the clown
p is for phantom rider
q is for quasimodo
r is for red ronin
s is for scarlet spider
t is for the thumper
u is for us-1
v is for the vanisher
w is for wendigo
x is for x-man
y is for yetrigar
z is for zippermouth
after much deliberation, this would be my marvel a to z
a is for american eagle
b is for bi-beast
c is for cardiac
d is for daimon hellstrom
e is for ego the living planet
f is for forbrush man
g is for ghost rider 2099
h is for hardcore
i is for ice wizard
j is for jack of hearts
k is for killpower
l is for lady octopus
m is for man-thing
n is for nfl superpro
o is for obnoxio the clown
p is for phantom rider
q is for quasimodo
r is for red ronin
s is for scarlet spider
t is for the thumper
u is for us-1
v is for the vanisher
w is for wendigo
x is for x-man
y is for yetrigar
z is for zippermouth
Except your list was facetious! I would love to see Egon the Living Ghostbuster Planet.
after much deliberation, this would be my marvel a to z
a is for american eagle
b is for bi-beast
c is for cardiac
d is for daimon hellstrom
e is for ego the living planet
f is for forbrush man
g is for ghost rider 2099
h is for hardcore
i is for ice wizard
j is for jack of hearts
k is for killpower
l is for lady octopus
m is for man-thing
n is for nfl superpro
o is for obnoxio the clown
p is for phantom rider
q is for quasimodo
r is for red ronin
s is for scarlet spider
t is for the thumper
u is for us-1
v is for the vanisher
w is for wendigo
x is for x-man
y is for yetrigar
z is for zippermouth
Except your list was facetious! I would love to see Egon the Living Ghostbuster Planet.
True, but a very important part of Strange's character is that he wasn't always a wizard, or even a very good person
Definitely! But you know what? You could address that via characterization of Dr. Strange or the way people interact with him. There's no need to show the crash, show the hands, show the Ancient One, show the learning of magic, etc. You don't need to have a crawl on the bottom saying "this was a significant moment, where he was humbled and now he's nice even though he used to be mean".
You can legit just have the movie start with him being Sorcerer Supreme, and have the conflict arise out of that.
The thing I hate about origin stories is that the fucking "normal, crisis, weird thing, learn to use weird thing, villain conflict" formula means we get incredibly samey stories with about 3 minutes worth of final conflict with a barely sketched villain.
you know, I think one odd thing about the Doctor Strange trailer I haven't seen people commenting on yet is that Tilda Swinton appears to be wearing fairly modern, even sort of futuristic, fabric/clothing. It kind of looks like a costume a guest star on Star Trek would wear. What's up with that, I wonder?
you know, I think one odd thing about the Doctor Strange trailer I haven't seen people commenting on yet is that Tilda Swinton appears to be wearing fairly modern, even sort of futuristic, fabric/clothing. It kind of looks like a costume a guest star on Star Trek would wear. What's up with that, I wonder?
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movies starring michael keaton did not strike you as michael keaton movies?
The movie with this cover art isn't "a Michael Keaton movie?"
Birdman wasn't a Michael Keaton movie to you?
you just need to include the concept that stray inhumans outside of attilan have existed for a long time and been widely noticed in the past few years, you don't need to go into detail on the events of agents of shield
when medusa is talking to the UN or whatever and they mention how inhumans have been a threat she can say that they do not represent attilan
hell that's the entire mcu strategy regarding their films' supporting casts
They got Robert Redford in one of their movies
And as cool as it is that they got him to be in it, he is not super invested in being there
He could have REALLY phoned it in
Spotlight was an ensemble cast and, granted, I haven't actually seen it but it didn't come off as a Michael Keaton vehicle (none of the acting nominations were his, for instance).
I'm not saying he was bad in those movies or anything, they just didn't strike me as the sort of movies that elevates someone into the Hollywood top tier.
A Talking Cat!?!
well ain't he got a belly fulla fire
I thought he was making a pretty good argument until he started talking about how he knew "the social justice warriors would be angry either way"
I mean, we're talking about 2019 if not 2020. If Fiege does wind up with the CEO position, we'll probably see a unification of Marvels' TV and film endeavors. Especially since it'll be post Infinity War which has to at least have some acknowledgement of the full MCU.
But, if not, they can kinda gloss over things depending on how the story goes.
All they need to explain is Inhuman descendants + Terrigen = Inhumans and that the number of inhumans has exponentially increased due to Terrigen contaminating the Earth. You don't need to explain specifically that a splinter branch of SHIELD fought some Inhuman extremists and knocked their magic transformation crystals into the ocean where they contaminated some fish, which got eaten by the populace and started making Inhumans pop up everywhere.
Just "This is what makes inhumans, there are now a lot of inhumans."
Also I'm not sure the professor was a god; I think he was just an Asgardian dude. I don't think there was a "Nobody the Stonecutter" in Norse myth.
casting a tibetan person as a tibetan character would be bad, because asserting tibet's identity would alienate china's money
making the ancient one not tibetan would be bad, because it erases his history
casting a chinese person as a tibetan character would be bad, because it's racistly conflating nationalities, particularly between two nationalities with some rather strained political relationships
and also no matter what you do, you still have the fundamental story of dr strange's origin being a white man adopting exotic asian magic to become a savior
so the way they decided to lose was to just go with an actress they really liked, tilda swinton
which I think would have probably been the smartest solution in terms of the racial dynamics
Having a nation of Superhumans suddenly appear would definitely count as something new and different from a bunch of otherwise unconnected people gaining powers in roughly the same manner. Right now the inhumans are just an acceleration of what was already happening in the MCU.
It's something they've been building up since Iron Man 2, this idea that there are a bunch of people who were getting powers and weird events happening behind the scene and SHIELD was only just managing to keep a lid on it. They also built it up in Winter Soldier. Just having a bunch of people undergoing terrigenesis isn't a drastic change to that status quo, it just means that there are more of them.
But having a group of superhumans declare that not only are they their own nation, but they're fully capable of defending themselves, is basically the worst case scenario for the various countries right now. Not even touching on the idea of a millennia old secret nation is basically a conspiracy theory bananza.
People with powers, not a secret or something new. An ancient hidden nation that is made up a superpowered individuals and with advanced technology is definitely a secret still and is something new.
You could tell a story starting some point after this significant event in his life! Like 99.9999% of the best stories in comic books!
God damn am I tired of origin stories.
Doesn't mean it had to be an origin story per se, but you at least need to cover why he knows magic
Why do I have the feeling this is a Marlon Brando story?
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So was your expression for this one "wearing a motorcycle helmet"? :rotate:
It'll look better once colored in.
He put on his best Stig face.
(PS, he's smiling.)
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Except your list was facetious! I would love to see Egon the Living Ghostbuster Planet.
It's, uh, too late for that I'm afraid.
Definitely! But you know what? You could address that via characterization of Dr. Strange or the way people interact with him. There's no need to show the crash, show the hands, show the Ancient One, show the learning of magic, etc. You don't need to have a crawl on the bottom saying "this was a significant moment, where he was humbled and now he's nice even though he used to be mean".
You can legit just have the movie start with him being Sorcerer Supreme, and have the conflict arise out of that.
The thing I hate about origin stories is that the fucking "normal, crisis, weird thing, learn to use weird thing, villain conflict" formula means we get incredibly samey stories with about 3 minutes worth of final conflict with a barely sketched villain.
She provided her own wardrobe.