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We are all tired, poor, huddled masses yearning to breathe free of this [Election]

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »

    Ya know, I don't agree with any of his policies or actions during his time as president, but I'd probably have a lot of fun hanging out with George W. Bush.

    he is by all accounts extremely charming and fun to be around

    I'd talk baseball with him

    So what the hell happened with Jeb?

    he likes to talk golf

    which says as much about him as need be

    Golf Tangent:

    I am going with Mrs. Chilla to her sister's place this weekend so she can go to her sister's Baby Shower. Boys are not allowed apparently.

    Brother-In-Law decides he wants to take me golfing and says to remember to bring my clubs

    I have been to a driving range twice and was completely unable to get the ball to even come off the ground, and definitely don't own golf clubs at all. When I told him this he acted like I had told him I was secretly a lizard person from dimension X.

    I don't know a single person our age who golfs but he was completely floored that I didn't know how

    Is golfing amongst 28-33 year olds like, vastly more common than my experience would dictate

    It was a really weird reaction

    I'm not sure

    seems like it might be a regional thing (I think it's way more popular in the South?), but there's also definitely a class element

    so I'm in the same boat as you, I don't know a single person my age who golfs

  • ZonugalZonugal (He/Him) The Holiday Armadillo I'm Santa's representative for all the southern states. And Mexico!Registered User regular
    I know a guy in his fourties who goes golfing.

    And the way he plays golf is at every hole you have to pound a beer/cocktail.

    Because, you see, I live in a world of monsterfolk.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »

    Ya know, I don't agree with any of his policies or actions during his time as president, but I'd probably have a lot of fun hanging out with George W. Bush.

    he is by all accounts extremely charming and fun to be around

    I'd talk baseball with him

    So what the hell happened with Jeb?

    he likes to talk golf

    which says as much about him as need be

    Golf Tangent:

    I am going with Mrs. Chilla to her sister's place this weekend so she can go to her sister's Baby Shower. Boys are not allowed apparently.

    Brother-In-Law decides he wants to take me golfing and says to remember to bring my clubs

    I have been to a driving range twice and was completely unable to get the ball to even come off the ground, and definitely don't own golf clubs at all. When I told him this he acted like I had told him I was secretly a lizard person from dimension X.

    I don't know a single person our age who golfs but he was completely floored that I didn't know how

    Is golfing amongst 28-33 year olds like, vastly more common than my experience would dictate

    It was a really weird reaction

    I don't know too many people who don't know how to golf.

    just myself and a few others.

    people stopped inviting me to the driving range after I successfully hooked a ball so far that it bounced off of an adjacent structure and landed in the parking lot behind the tees.

    I've been to a driving range twice. Once in 5th grade as a field trip when were doing a golf section in PE.
    Once a couple years ago with a friend.
    I've also been "golfing" twice. It was at one of those indoor places where the course is projected on a screen.
    Not only did I shoot way, way over par, I managed to lose two balls. Yes, indoors.
    The first time wasn't too bad, but the 2nd time another friend who golfed as infrequently as I do was my partner, and we ended up taking like 3 and half hours to finish our game because our terribleness created a feedback loop or something. The guy who owned the place came and sat behind us, marveling at how bad we were. He said he'd never seen a game like it.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Golf being a game for the wealthy is patently false. A vast majority of golfers use discount or used equipment on public courses which there are a hell of a lot more of in the world than country clubs. It is very much a working class activity.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    Mysst wrote: »
    Shorty wrote: »
    Zonugal wrote: »
    Xehalus wrote: »

    Ya know, I don't agree with any of his policies or actions during his time as president, but I'd probably have a lot of fun hanging out with George W. Bush.

    he is by all accounts extremely charming and fun to be around

    I'd talk baseball with him

    So what the hell happened with Jeb?

    he likes to talk golf

    which says as much about him as need be

    Golf Tangent:

    I am going with Mrs. Chilla to her sister's place this weekend so she can go to her sister's Baby Shower. Boys are not allowed apparently.

    Brother-In-Law decides he wants to take me golfing and says to remember to bring my clubs

    I have been to a driving range twice and was completely unable to get the ball to even come off the ground, and definitely don't own golf clubs at all. When I told him this he acted like I had told him I was secretly a lizard person from dimension X.

    I don't know a single person our age who golfs but he was completely floored that I didn't know how

    Is golfing amongst 28-33 year olds like, vastly more common than my experience would dictate

    It was a really weird reaction

    I'm not sure

    seems like it might be a regional thing (I think it's way more popular in the South?), but there's also definitely a class element

    so I'm in the same boat as you, I don't know a single person my age who golfs

    I thought there was a class thing too but these guys are not especially well off

    It definitely threw my perspective of what I thought of as a golfer way off

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  • GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    I mean it's pretty easy to know "how" to golf. The rules aren't very complicated. I've never actually golfed but I know the rules through cultural osmosis.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Gundi wrote: »
    I mean it's pretty easy to know "how" to golf. The rules aren't very complicated. I've never actually golfed but I know the rules through cultural osmosis.

    That's not really what I'm talking about, I mean that I cannot hit the ball and make it go up in the air

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Butters wrote: »
    Golf being a game for the wealthy is patently false. A vast majority of golfers use discount or used equipment on public courses which there are a hell of a lot more of in the world than country clubs. It is very much a working class activity.

    it doesn't have to be exclusively for the wealthy for it to have cultural signifiers which introduce class elements into who does and does not choose to play it

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  • Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    like all the dudes who i went to high school with (florida panhandle) were already golfin regularly by 11th grade

    it struck me as very much a thing one does as a man in the south, i guess

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    If someone assumed I owned Golf clubs I would think they were high

    I don't think I know a single person who golfs

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Here is a summary of my relationship with golf

    https://youtu.be/L-pzFNTo8L8

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  • Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt proud parent of eight beautiful girls and shalmelo dorne (which is currently being ruled by a woman (awesome role model for my daughters)) #dornedadRegistered User regular
    i went to the driving range once and it was sort of fun for a couple minutes but i struggled mightily with that club game

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    I can quote the hell out of Caddyshack

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    golf seems like one of the most absurd sports w/r/t wealth, besides maybe one of the sports that requires horses. Even polo doesn't require multiple acres of land that has to be meticulously manicured on a daily basis.

    Sure you don't have to own/build a golf course to play it... but the sheer scope and expense involved in a single course (all devoted to playing a game) is pretty staggering.

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    My mom and step-dad golf a lot. And they are definitely not wealthy. Like at all.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I can quote the hell out of Caddyshack

    "Do you do drugs, Danny?"

    "Every day."

    "Then what's the problem?"

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I can quote the hell out of Caddyshack

    "Do you do drugs, Danny?"

    "Every day."

    "Then what's the problem?"

    " I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them."

  • LadaiLadai Registered User regular
    This conversation reminds me of a quote I heard once.

    "Boxing is the sport of kings, played by peasants. Golf is the sport of peasants, played by kings."

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    The usual version I hear is football is a gentleman's sport played by thugs, rugby is a thug's sport played by gentlemen

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Fooseball is the sport of kings played by gentlemen while water polo is only fun for the horses.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

    huh

    I have never heard it used like that in my life.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    this is pretty much what I'd always known it as.

    of course, I read a lot of Hardy Boys and silver age Batman, so, yeah

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

    huh

    I have never heard it used like that in my life.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Fooseball is the sport of kings played by gentlemen while water polo is only fun for the horses.

    are the horses watching the water polo

    like from behind a poolside fence or something

  • SleepSleep Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

    huh

    I have never heard it used like that in my life.

    It really came up as a dog whistle in the US in the last year or two. So yeah it's now a word we can't use anymore.

    Edit: though its wandering into being that dog whistle was a longer road than just the past two years of course.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

    huh

    I have never heard it used like that in my life.

    It really came up as a dog whistle in the US in the last year or two. So yeah it's now a word we can't use anymore.

    that is pretty darn good to know

    I mean I wasn't using it before but now I surely won't

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  • Metzger MeisterMetzger Meister It Gets Worse before it gets any better.Registered User regular
    golf may not be strictly for the wealthy, but it is definitely associated with wealthy people. whether that's because of exclusive country clubs or the fact that a lot of celebrities and high-powered businessmen/politicians play the game or because golf can, like any hobby really, be pretty expensive, well.

    there's also, as previously mentioned, the aspect of material wealth that just goes into the game being played. massive 18 hole courses with lush green grass even in places that grass shouldn't grow, maintained meticulously by an army of workers and groundskeepers.

    also, @Chincymcchilla some quick tips: square your shoulders, take it slow on your back-swing and follow through.

    my grandparents bought me and my brother golf lessons when i was a kid. we shared my grandpa's clubs!

    it's a fun game, to be sure. not a bad way to waste an afternoon at all.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I can quote the hell out of Caddyshack

    "Do you do drugs, Danny?"

    "Every day."

    "Then what's the problem?"

    " I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them."

    "I hear this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay?"

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    yeah it usually does

    but now when people are using it to describe a 12-year-old boy who got shot by police, as a justification for why that's okay...

    it basically has come to mean "n-word who needed to get put down for whatever reason"

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

    huh

    I have never heard it used like that in my life.

    It is used for black athletes, it was used for Martin Freeman and several other black victims of cops to justify the aciton, and was used heavily around the Furgeson protestors

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    I like to golf with my Dad and don't really associate it with wealthy people beyond the one golf course in my area which is surrounded by expensive suburbs and is members only.

    The province of rich people is to do whatever requires resources in excess of what normal people will ever see in a lifetime, so like yachting and stuff involving stock options.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

    huh

    I have never heard it used like that in my life.

    It is used for black athletes, it was used for Martin Freeman and several other black victims of cops to justify the aciton, and was used heavily around the Furgeson protestors

    holy crap

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    I like to golf with my Dad and don't really associate it with wealthy people beyond the one golf course in my area which is surrounded by expensive suburbs and is members only.

    The province of rich people is to do whatever requires resources in excess of what normal people will ever see in a lifetime, so like yachting and stuff involving stock options.

    Badminton.

    To a lesser extent, lacrosse and hockey.

  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    whoof

    I 100% know you mean soccer and also that thug doesn't have the same connotation not in the states but boy thats a rough sentence to hear

    what connotation is thug supposed to have in the us exactly

    it just means large, violent person as far as I know

    thug is an extremely racially charged word bordering on slur towards african-americans

    huh

    I have never heard it used like that in my life.

    It's racially coded. You won't always hear it used in referring to black people, it's kind of a dogwhistle thing. A lot of people are just "oh that boy Kevin that my daughter is dating is kind of a thug" and there's other times where people use it in place of the n-word.

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I can quote the hell out of Caddyshack

    "Do you do drugs, Danny?"

    "Every day."

    "Then what's the problem?"

    " I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them."

    "I hear this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay?"

    that's the worst hat I've ever seen

    oh, looks great on you, though

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    "It looks kind of thuggish" = "something a black person would wear"

    Not everyone who uses the word thug is intending it to be racist, but it's picking up a lot of steam from the media to imply it.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I can quote the hell out of Caddyshack

    "Do you do drugs, Danny?"

    "Every day."

    "Then what's the problem?"

    " I've sentenced boys younger than you to the gas chamber. Didn't want to do it. I felt I owed it to them."

    "I hear this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay?"

    that's the worst hat I've ever seen

    oh, looks great on you, though

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