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[phalla] Final Fantasy IV: Know Suffering, Know Death, Know Mafia Victory

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  • Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
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    Seriously... I can't even right now.

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    We had common ground in the revived villager and an inactive seer. We tried.

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    Well, good morning. Welcome to the new scenario. What should we do today?
  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Martoss wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Because we still have someone petrifying and/or poisoning people, and the natural cover for that would be to pretend you're a mage.

    Get ready for a big wall of text.

    I just posted why I don't think we have a village stoner anymore. As for poison, H3Knuckles said a long time ago that he was in contact with a village poisoner, and through our network, I think we can verify that that player is indeed a poisoner. Also, we went down to one poison a day after Gizzy died, implying that she was a mafia poisoner.

    So are you doubting that the first poisoner is village now? Why? Again, it feels like you're suggesting that the mafia started with two kills, one or two stonings, and two poisons a day. In a 33 player game, that seems hard to believe. The simpler explanation is that the last poisoner is village.

    Which I guess I should just go ahead and admit it to everyone now in case anyone was still wondering, yes. I am a cranky Black Mage. And I have been poisoning any threat to the village or the world that I could find. My accuracy rating in that respect might be pretty low, but from what I know of vigs, trying to take out targets that you suspect and failing is better than not using your power at all.

    And for informational purposes, this is who I have poisoned each day: Grunt's Ghosts (for being third on the Kime bandwagon), Phyphor (for voting for my buddy Brody and staying under the radar), nobody (because I was following Raiden's advice pre-network to give the healers a chance to save some people from being statues), SeGaTai (from LostNinja's suggestion), H3Knuckles (I was brainwashed), and finally Grunt's Ghosts again (following LostNinja's final suspicions.)

    H3Knuckles should be able to verify all that, as he knew I was a poisoner starting from day 2. And now everybody knows. But since the brainwasher is supposedly dead now, what's the harm in that?

    Can confirm

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  • MartossMartoss Registered User regular
    I thought I was being proactive by reaching out to players on day 0 even though I mostly lurk around here and was nervous to do so. Maybe it ended up as the worst network ever. But we've taken out like 4/5 mafia players! So I'm proud of what I and my network buddies accomplished. Even if it's turning sour at the end here. Even if it was the worst network ever. It's still been the best (village) network I've ever been a part of.

  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular

    Kime the chocobo you have been found guilty by royal decree.

    VOTE +1

    You are so insistent about the nature of mafia cover roles, I want to know if you know something I don't.
    Looking through your post history, you threw similar shade on Grunt's Ghosts
    You claimed to be a chocobo (may just be a joke), but also claimed to not know that villagers can have the monster trait
    You suspected everyone to have unique names, and posted another question about the calling for the roles of players - (You're really concerned about covering yourself)
    You discuss most of the votes post conclusion, and posted regarding vote shifts " I suspect it's all mostly between villagers" - a mafia tell

    Your biggest vote in the game, that stood out to me so far has been
    "Virgl I think you're mafia with a cover role!"

    That's an easy enough reason to vote for you,
    considering the field is filled with folk who've engaged with votes against mafia at critical junctures,
    and have doing plausible village positive actions,
    or have been aware of important villagers early in the game.

    My second suspect is Ardor, but that's harder to read.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    Going with Lost Ninja's final list of suspects and Virgil's vote. Sorry kime, but this whole thing is a mess and that's two people who've been helpful to me this game's opinion against you.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    Derp. Here, to make it official. kime

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Oh, and to @chamberlain ; This forum doesn't display time stamps past the current date, or you would see that my activity has largely always been between 8pm-4am EST most days. I didn't "clam up" but wasn't around until I scrambled to get in a vote before the bell day 2.

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  • MartossMartoss Registered User regular
    I guess I'll move to kime for survival. I mean, claiming to LostNinja that you were masoned with Cythraul is admittedly almost too bold to be a lie. But here we are.

  • ArdorArdor Registered User regular
    !martoss for now. I see good reasoning from you, but unfortunately, I am severely time limited coming in at such a late time in the game and the game day.

  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
    Dang, that was his claim?
    I'm married to another player as a role, and I wasn't even masoned.
    Also that makes his anti monster stuff real weird

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Martoss wrote: »
    I guess I'll move to kime for survival. I mean, claiming to LostNinja that you were masoned with Cythraul is admittedly almost too bold to be a lie. But here we are.

    Why? Cythraul is dead and therefore can't confirm/deny, and it's pretty clear LostNinja was the only rez we were getting.

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  • MartossMartoss Registered User regular
    Yeah we thought maybe he was the Dad Bomb, but now that you mention it, you not being masoned with Phyphor seems odd.

    I just still can't get over DemonIzual pushing the vote towards Kime on day 1. Somebody's going to have to explain it all to me after the game ends.

  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    Dad bomb is from FFIV interlude, not FFIV. He'd be the only character so far not in the original game.

    As to GG's claim of Octomammoth, that's the Octomom I mentioned (name changes based on which release of FFIV).

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  • MartossMartoss Registered User regular
    Also for the record, I'm not poisoning anyone tonight, so don't let someone claiming to be poisoned tomorrow fool you. Although if I eat it with the vote I guess my poison wouldn't go off anyways...

  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Martoss wrote: »
    Also for the record, I'm not poisoning anyone tonight, so don't let someone claiming to be poisoned tomorrow fool you. Although if I eat it with the vote I guess my poison wouldn't go off anyways...

    That's actually something I've been wondering about. Heals went off before Vote takes effect. Nevermind, this is answered in the OP. There was something I was confused about the action sequence and Doe's ???? middle-step, but I've forgotten it.

    By the way, without giving details Doe, did lonelyahava get the results of wildcat's seering attempts when they took over, or did wildcat never use their action, or neither of the above?. Strictly out of curiosity, but it'd been bugging me.

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Oh hey I was napping

    I'm about to die I guess. I think Virgil is mafia based on weird anti logic today, for the record

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
    Time

    okay kime confess

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
    dang it

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  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    Oh, and to @chamberlain ; This forum doesn't display time stamps past the current date, or you would see that my activity has largely always been between 8pm-4am EST most days. I didn't "clam up" but wasn't around until I scrambled to get in a vote before the bell day 2.

    On desktop you can hover over to get the time.

    Good luck village! I don't know anything more than anyone else so my suspicion of Virgil is only based on public stuff.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    Well, if you weren't mafia I'm sorry.

    But thanks for the tip!

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  • Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    Dad bomb is from FFIV interlude, not FFIV. He'd be the only character so far not in the original game.

    As to GG's claim of Octomammoth, that's the Octomom I mentioned (name changes based on which release of FFIV).

    The Octomom was a joke about the lady that had 8 kids from artificial insemination but was too broke to feed them and when on to do porn. My role, however, is Octomammoth, which we'll see in a bit.

    H3Knuckles
  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles Jack of all interests... ...master of noneRegistered User regular
    H3Knuckles wrote: »
    Dad bomb is from FFIV interlude, not FFIV. He'd be the only character so far not in the original game.

    As to GG's claim of Octomammoth, that's the Octomom I mentioned (name changes based on which release of FFIV).

    The Octomom was a joke about the lady that had 8 kids from artificial insemination but was too broke to feed them and when on to do porn. My role, however, is Octomammoth, which we'll see in a bit.

    Huh, just checked and apparently it was "Octomamm" in the original US release. Could've sworn it was Octomom.

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
    Kime, I hope I still get an invite to your lecture
    on mafia gambits!

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Day Seven: Know Suffering! Know Death!



    kime, chamberlain and, H3Knuckles were arguing when Baigan, the Captain of the Guard of Baron entered the room with what could only be one of Golbez’s four fiends, Barbariccia.

    Baigan said, "I thought you might like to know who was behind all this before you perished." The heroes turned to fight but from the moon came an immense energy blast reducing them to stardust.

    Ardor flipped her hair, laughed, and said, “I think I’ll miss the heroes. Things will be boring around here without anyone challenging us.”

    cj iwakura straightened his uniform and said, “We will always have the statue garden.”

    “True true.”

    ***


    This is a well-crafted cobaltite statue of premium.
    The item is a well-designed image of premium the ???
    The premium is holding a dacite door.

    This is a well-crafted cinnabar statue of Invictus.
    The item is a well-designed image of Invictus the ???
    The Invictus is holding a jet whale.

    This is a well-crafted orthoclase statue of Virgil_Leads_You.
    The item is a well-designed image of Virgil_Leads_You the ???
    The Virgil_Leads_You is holding an oak barrel.

    ***



    The Dead:

    kime - Grey Bomb - The Vote
    H3Knuckles - Prince Edward - Big Bang
    chamberlain - Antlion - Big Bang
    Virgil_Leads_You - Statue - ???

    ***



    Golbez and the Fiends have activated the Giant of Babil, eliminating all life on earth.
    Mafia victory, all according to Zemus-sama’s plan. Also they made this video.




    The Victorious Survivors:


    Ardor - Barbariccia
    cj iwakura - Baigan

    Alive… for now...:

    Martoss - Cranky Black Mage

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  • AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    Arg. I'm really curious to hear some backstory here. Spill people, how did CJ become 100% village somehow?

    @38thDoe really good game! Thanks for hosting it!

    Also, I'd have to go back through the vote records to check, but I'm pretty sure I voted for mafia almost every single night (I think Phyphor was the only non-mafia vote if he really was a monster instead of mafia).

    I did better at networking this time though! That said, I also agree with Grunt, why did I get to be in the network?

  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Oh, cj was mafia? Yeah we were screwed then, given the network head called him 100% confirmed

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    Go forth, Four Lords of the Elements!


    Earth, Water, Wind, Fire - Rise Up!

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    Now, fight with all your might!
    All for the sake of Lord Zemus' world.
    As long as Lord Golbez wills it.
    The all powerful Lords of the Lunarian Realms!
    I was going to post that SAME VIDEO, you crazy GM you.



    The village deserves mad props. You all had brilliant instinct, and had it not been for good fortune, we would have been decimated.

    Great game.

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    Well, good morning. Welcome to the new scenario. What should we do today?
  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    I...did not see that coming.

    Damn CJ.

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    Arg. I'm really curious to hear some backstory here. Spill people, how did CJ become 100% village somehow?

    @38thDoe really good game! Thanks for hosting it!

    Also, I'd have to go back through the vote records to check, but I'm pretty sure I voted for mafia almost every single night (I think Phyphor was the only non-mafia vote if he really was a monster instead of mafia).

    I did better at networking this time though! That said, I also agree with Grunt, why did I get to be in the network?

    The revival mechanic. Rubicant(jdarksun) revived LostNinja, then I came forward claiming to be the one who did it. No one contested me, and I was so sure someone would call me on it.

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    Well, good morning. Welcome to the new scenario. What should we do today?
    kime
  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Oh, cj was mafia? Yeah we were screwed then, given the network head called him 100% confirmed

    I mean, he brought me back...as village. Who wouldn't have assumed that made him 100% village.

  • JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Total Goober Registered User regular
    I wasn't lying to y'all :rotate:

  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    LostNinja wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Oh, cj was mafia? Yeah we were screwed then, given the network head called him 100% confirmed

    I mean, he brought me back...as village. Who wouldn't have assumed that made him 100% village.

    I've never felt like more of a tool than I did during this game, if it's any consolation. You were all on fire, and I had to do a lot of mental chess to keep ahead of your instincts. I felt guilty having to deceive everyone, but that's life in Lunaria.

    Proboard:
    http://fourfiendspa.proboards.com/

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    Well, good morning. Welcome to the new scenario. What should we do today?
    H3Knuckles
  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Arg. I'm really curious to hear some backstory here. Spill people, how did CJ become 100% village somehow?

    @38thDoe really good game! Thanks for hosting it!

    Also, I'd have to go back through the vote records to check, but I'm pretty sure I voted for mafia almost every single night (I think Phyphor was the only non-mafia vote if he really was a monster instead of mafia).

    I did better at networking this time though! That said, I also agree with Grunt, why did I get to be in the network?

    The revival mechanic. Rubicant(jdarksun) revived LostNinja, then I came forward claiming to be the one who did it. No one contested me, and I was so sure someone would call me on it.

    But Jdark was mafia too wasn't he?

    That's a really fucking shitty mechanic, basically designed for this to happen.

    H3Knuckles
  • kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Arg. I'm really curious to hear some backstory here. Spill people, how did CJ become 100% village somehow?

    @38thDoe really good game! Thanks for hosting it!

    Also, I'd have to go back through the vote records to check, but I'm pretty sure I voted for mafia almost every single night (I think Phyphor was the only non-mafia vote if he really was a monster instead of mafia).

    I did better at networking this time though! That said, I also agree with Grunt, why did I get to be in the network?

    The revival mechanic. Rubicant(jdarksun) revived LostNinja, then I came forward claiming to be the one who did it. No one contested me, and I was so sure someone would call me on it.

    Wow, gutsy. Good job!


    Oh wait jdark was mafia too ?

    Hmm

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  • GizzyGizzy <- girl PhoenixRegistered User regular
    Mafia got an unblockable kill in exchange for reviving a villager - we kind of messed that up though by aiming at a statue

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Not on Any Podcast or Affliated Don't Even Own a MikeRegistered User regular
    Congrats on your win!
    Sorry Kime!

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent Chantry of NightmaresRegistered User regular
    LostNinja wrote: »
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    Arg. I'm really curious to hear some backstory here. Spill people, how did CJ become 100% village somehow?

    @38thDoe really good game! Thanks for hosting it!

    Also, I'd have to go back through the vote records to check, but I'm pretty sure I voted for mafia almost every single night (I think Phyphor was the only non-mafia vote if he really was a monster instead of mafia).

    I did better at networking this time though! That said, I also agree with Grunt, why did I get to be in the network?

    The revival mechanic. Rubicant(jdarksun) revived LostNinja, then I came forward claiming to be the one who did it. No one contested me, and I was so sure someone would call me on it.

    But Jdark was mafia too wasn't he?

    That's a really fucking shitty mechanic, basically designed for this to happen.

    I kind of have to agree. Once I was in place, it felt like it was impossible to lose. If the seer hadn't been inactive, I would have been done for, but sadly that wasn't the case.


    It would have been even more broken had Gizzy gotten revived like she expected. AND jdarksun's extra kill didn't trigger either.

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    Well, good morning. Welcome to the new scenario. What should we do today?
    H3Knuckles
  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Extremely well played, CJ. You were one of the few people in the network I had 0 suspicion of.



    I feel kind of bad for Sir Fab (only kinda after last game :P ) because even if he hadn't eaten the vote day 1, my burning grudge was going to have me roleblock him every single day until I saw a better target. Can't imagine that'd be fun as an SK.

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  • LostNinjaLostNinja Registered User regular
    Gizzy wrote: »
    Mafia got an unblockable kill in exchange for reviving a villager - we kind of messed that up though by aiming at a statue

    And why were you so annoyed when you died?

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