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Penny Arcade - Comic - Engagement Index

DogDog Registered User, Administrator, Vanilla Staff admin
edited May 2016 in The Penny Arcade Hub
imagePenny Arcade - Comic - Dialectic

Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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  • ziddersroofurryziddersroofurry Registered User regular
    Oh, you.
    *Grabs popcorn*
    This ought to be an interesting discussion.

  • poipoigirlpoipoigirl Registered User regular
    lol I do love that last panel

  • RenegadePhantomRenegadePhantom Registered User regular
    The thing is of course that even though it's the most 'hated' video ever, all those people hating it will still buy it. So the only thing Acti is actually getting is exposure. Having said that, this trailer marks the first time I've ever cared about CoD, and also the first time I've even considered buying one. And from other people I've gathered I'm far from the only one. So in other words, people that previously didn't buy CoD are now considering buying it, and people that used to buy it will still buy it. I'm predicting this game will be a humongous success.

  • OddfishOddfish On opposite weeks In odd numbered monthsRegistered User regular
    Sadly, the trailer itself isn't awful. The fans of the Call of Duty franchise, however, are not excited about the creative direction of their beloved FPS. They're over the science fiction trope. This is the reason everyone is leaping on the Battlefield 1 bandwagon. It's an exciting new direction without leading us into territory wholly disconnected from reality.

    I seek Sci-fi gameplay from other franchises, myself, because I think the gameplay approach of the CoD franchise is too limiting. I think they'll learn something about the market after the game's release. One way or the other, it's interesting seeing the way the community can influence developers this day in age.

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Seems like it's been a while since we've gotten a comic of G&T talking about something relatively mundane while fantastic things happen in the background.

  • RottonappleRottonapple Registered User regular
    Gabe and Tycho in a life raft somewhere in the Pacific? Who kills and eats who first? My money is on Gabe becoming lunch first.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    I guess I need to watch the trailer now. I saw that it existed and that it was available for viewing. But I was like "meh, CoD." And I didn't watch it.

    I also don't frequent the Call of Duty thread, or any subreddits about that series so I wasn't even aware that the whole internet is hating on that trailer.

    What's so wrong with it? Why is everyone up in arms?

  • CheeseGod99CheeseGod99 Registered User regular
    Love the art on this one. Nice job Gabe!

  • pyranpyran Registered User new member
    back "then", passion meant suffering....

  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Mel Gibson's Brooks' Passion of the Christ

  • darleysamdarleysam On my way to UKRegistered User regular
    Gamers are so easily triggered nowadays.

  • John W. KennedyJohn W. Kennedy Registered User new member
    Actually, consider “Lone Wolf and Cub”, episode “The Gateless Barrier”.

  • OddfishOddfish On opposite weeks In odd numbered monthsRegistered User regular
    darleysam wrote: »
    Gamers are so easily triggered nowadays.
    Meanwhile folk are running around looking for an opportunity to tell someone else they've been triggered.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    And other folk are trying as hard as possible to turn the word "trigger" into a joke, because surely, people having bad reactions is the Worst Thing.

  • fortyforty Registered User regular
    At least Dog changed up the thread title.

  • CEOIIICEOIII Registered User regular

    There's the trailer.

    I don't get what's so bad. If I gave a damn about the franchise, I'd be really excited about it.

  • RatherDashing89RatherDashing89 Registered User regular
    I guess CoD games must have a very specific amount of ridiculous sci fi in them.

  • Golden YakGolden Yak Burnished Bovine The sunny beaches of CanadaRegistered User regular
    pyran wrote: »
    back "then", passion meant suffering....

    That lends kind've a weird spin to the Activision comment.

    Gamers - We hate this trailer! This trailer is the worst! It makes us feel bad!
    Activision - Mmm... such sweet despair. Their lamentation feeds us.

  • SalurielSaluriel Registered User regular
    Just watched the reveal trailer and, honestly, I've never been more excited for a Call of Duty game. It looks like a great new direction to breathe some life into the franchise, since Advanced Warfare was only okay and Ghosts was awful. Also, it's odd for fans to bitch about sci-fi now when we had cloaking devices, hive minds, sailing cities and murderbots in the last two Black Ops games.

  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    More important than this Call of Duty discussion -- what sequence of events led to Gabe and Tycho being on an inflatable raft in what appears to be the ocean? (And surrounded by 4 sharks).

  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    Like so many other posters, I definitely thought the trailer was more interesting than I would expect from any regular CoD game. I watched it before people had decided it was Bad. Then I heard it there was this Bad trailer and went to track it down. I was a bit surprised. I especially thought the Major Tom cover was well used, even if it was a bit of a cheap way of getting an emotional response.

    The Battlefield 1 trailer was also nice, but I think most of that had to do with the music being most of the good parts of the 7 Nation Army song. You know the parts.

  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I actually found the trailer underwhelming because I didn't think it was sci-fi enough. Yeah you've got spaceships and robots, but the actual firefight scene was just people shooting rifles from behind cover. I was expecting to at least see some powered exoskeletons increasing mobility, but if that trailer is any indication it looks like the gameplay is just going to be a mundane ADS shooter again.

  • JusticeforPlutoJusticeforPluto Registered User regular
    The trailer is getting crazy dislikes because:

    1. Its CoD
    2. Actual CoD fans are very split of the direction the franchise has been taking
    3. The decided to make you buy IW to get MW1 Remastered
    4. Its the Internet. I'm sure as the story spread some have dislikes the video just cause they could. They want to see how bad they can make the like to dislike ratio.

    They pissed off a whole lot of folks for different reasons with that trailer. It will still be a huge hit, most likely, because

    1. It's CoD

    Remeber that old pic of the "Boycott MW2" group? Same thing. Lots of folks disliking that trailer will end up with a copy.

  • Rhesus PositiveRhesus Positive GNU Terry Pratchett Registered User regular
    Lucascraft wrote: »
    More important than this Call of Duty discussion -- what sequence of events led to Gabe and Tycho being on an inflatable raft in what appears to be the ocean? (And surrounded by 4 sharks).

    My interpretation is that this arc started with them dumping the body in the harbour, only to be caught and incarcerated. This is their escape. I guess it was an island prison.

    I can't post the relevant comics with these background events, but you know the ones I mean.

    [Muffled sounds of gorilla violence]
  • poipoigirlpoipoigirl Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    I think this is more they are in a dangerous situation. Instead of focusing on that they are more interested in a game trailer. That people get too caught up in game trailers.

    poipoigirl on
  • ziddersroofurryziddersroofurry Registered User regular
  • Skull2185Skull2185 Registered User regular
    I do like the sci-fi direction CoD is going in, I thought I was tired of it, but I'm actually tired of them trying to "revolutionize" the movement system in the game. Very few people are fond of wall-running and exo jumps. Just stick to what works please! I also think "How dare they only sell MW1 Remaster with the new game!" is a silly thing. Of course they're not going to sell it separate right away, and take all the sales away from the new game. That would be stupid on Activision's part. They can use it now to get impatient gamers (like me! though I'm not actually buying IW its gonna be a bday gift) to buy the new game and get MW1 now, and then next year in May or June when they announce the next one there will be a "surprise" announcement that MW1 Remaster is now standalone.

    Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    poipoigirl wrote: »
    I think this is more they are in a dangerous situation. Instead of focusing on that they are more interested in a game trailer. That people get too caught up in game trailers.

    There's a long running thing they do where there's crazy stuff happening in the comic art, but they talk about something completely else.
    Like this one

  • darkmayodarkmayo Registered User regular
    other than that shit cover song it was fine. Cant wait til we start hearing shitty purple rain covers on car ads and shit.

    Switch SW-6182-1526-0041
  • ZomagicZomagic Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    I don't know if they're thanking people for the insults in the sense that they enjoy being torn to shreds. I think it's just an appreciation for honest criticism. A lot of things with a huge fanbase, end up with a lack of honest and constructive criticism, and spiral down the tubes. I mean, look at Final Fantasy. Its fanbase got so riddled with white knights and crazy fanboys, that it's become blatantly mediocre. In its heyday, you couldn't talk shit about that franchise without starting an absolute shitstorm, and I believe that it suffered greatly for that. It's IMPORTANT for a game company to know what people don't want to see or play. Even if it hurts, those who provide harsh criticism have given a valuable service in not coddling the IP, just because it's part of something larger.

    Zomagic on
  • dennisdennis aka bingley Registered User regular
    I think Dog is trying to convince me that I'm in a PKD story.

  • shadowysea07shadowysea07 Registered User regular
    More important than this Call of Duty discussion -- what sequence of events led to Gabe and Tycho being on an inflatable raft in what appears to be the ocean? (And surrounded by 4 sharks)."

    5 sharks from what I saw. 2 on the right 3 on the left. ones on the very corner of the boat.

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