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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    stig I don't understand that picture

    stig's opponent had two sylvani on the board, but thanks to the priest casting excavated evil his sylvs were low enough on health that brann + c'thun (I assume emp was involved as well) was guaranteed lethal

    both sylvs died in the process, stealing brann and c'thun as the priest himself died

    So, the board state is:

    DRB: Sylvanus, Sylvanus, Something Else?
    Stig: Low-health taunt

    Opponent casts Excavated Evil, damaging Sylvs and Something Else? and killing Stig's taunt.

    Oh. I get it now.

    On Stig's turn, he drops Bran and then C'Thun. C'Thun tosses out 36 points of damage. In no particular order: 2 points go to the first Sylv, which "dies" but is still on the board. 2 more points go to the second Sylv, which also "dies" but is still on the board. 2+ points go to Something Else?, killing it. The remaining ~30 points of damage go directly to the Priest's face because every other valid target is dead. This is exactly lethal damage to DrB. With C'Thun's battlecry fully resolved, the Sylv deathrattles resolve, grabbing C'Thun and Bran. Game ends because DrB has 0 health.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    stig I don't understand that picture

    stig's opponent had two sylvani on the board, but thanks to the priest casting excavated evil his sylvs were low enough on health that brann + c'thun (I assume emp was involved as well) was guaranteed lethal

    both sylvs died in the process, stealing brann and c'thun as the priest himself died

    So, the board state is:

    DRB: Sylvanus, Sylvanus, Something Else?
    Stig: Low-health taunt

    Opponent casts Excavated Evil, damaging Sylvs and Something Else? and killing Stig's taunt.

    Oh. I get it now.

    On Stig's turn, he drops Bran and then C'Thun. C'Thun tosses out 36 points of damage. In no particular order: 2 points go to the first Sylv, which "dies" but is still on the board. 2 more points go to the second Sylv, which also "dies" but is still on the board. 2+ points go to Something Else?, killing it. The remaining ~30 points of damage go directly to the Priest's face because every other valid target is dead. This is exactly lethal damage to DrB. With C'Thun's battlecry fully resolved, the Sylv deathrattles resolve, grabbing C'Thun and Bran. Game ends because DrB has 0 health.

    Yep.

    Sidenote, he didn't need anything else of the board--C'thun doesn't overkill people past 0, so Stig may have had more than enough to kill both sylvs and the priest (like 2-3 more that could have been soaked by the sylvs being at higher health), but we wouldn't see that since C'thun just stops firing once there's not anymore valid targets.

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  • ZythonZython Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    ShadowofVT wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
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    Idx86 wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    Wow. I know that I haven't really put any resources towards TGT, but I just went through and made an inventory spreadsheet of everything I have and seeing it like that is pretty funny. I have a total of 21 cards from TGT (2 of which are rare and 2 or which are epic). Hahaha, guess I know where I should start putting my gold!

    So I've opened 2 TGT packs since this. Here's the one I just opened.

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    That's my first golden. So now I have the dust for 3 Legendaries. :biggrin:

    I'm thinking N'Zoth & Sylvanas. Not sure about the third.

    You are 1000% on point with with those two legendaries.

    I'm torn between Justicar or Twin Emp (I'm close to a decent Zoo deck, so Gormok is up there too). No Tirion either.

    If you play a lot of paladin, Tirion without question.

    Then maybe Gormok since he fits into zoo and other aggressive decks pretty well.

    I'm not sure about Veklor. I know he's an awesome card but I'm not convinced that Cthun decks are all that good. I don't think there are any in T1 right now.

    Right now I'm only really playing Patron Warrior and Mid-Range Shaman mostly because they're the two decks I have the cards to play. The issue I'm having is basically choice paralysis because this is the most dust I've ever had at one time and I have a crap ton of holes in my collection.

    Here is the entirety of my Epic & (craftable) Legendaries.
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    If I'm aggressive with my dusting, I'll have about 6500 to play with. So that's 4 Legendaries or maybe 3 Legendaries and some vital cards I'm still missing from classic (since I won't be buying any classic packs for quite a while). I think Sylvanas is the most obvious choice. She's very versatile and can go into a bunch of different decks, so she's a definite. But there's just so many choices for the rest of my dust. I'm kinda tempted to just go through and make a bunch of the classic cards I'm still missing (a 2nd Cold Blood/Eviscerate/Highmane/Aldor/Auchenai/Feral Spirit, a couple Dire Wolves, a MCT, at least one Ice Block/Prep/Twisting Nether/Doomsayer/Faceless Manipulator/Sea Giant).

    I think someone posted this a few pages back, but there's a good crafting guide on Mana Crystals based on overall usage in decks, and then a summary of epics/legendaries for the popular decks. I found it very helpful.

    Huh. I was told that Thalanos wasn't core for Miracle Rogue. Should I craft that? The only legendaries I'm using are VanCleef and Xaril.

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  • KolosusKolosus Registered User regular
    Zython wrote: »
    ShadowofVT wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    Idx86 wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    TheCanMan wrote: »
    Wow. I know that I haven't really put any resources towards TGT, but I just went through and made an inventory spreadsheet of everything I have and seeing it like that is pretty funny. I have a total of 21 cards from TGT (2 of which are rare and 2 or which are epic). Hahaha, guess I know where I should start putting my gold!

    So I've opened 2 TGT packs since this. Here's the one I just opened.

    3dXBZTm.jpg

    That's my first golden. So now I have the dust for 3 Legendaries. :biggrin:

    I'm thinking N'Zoth & Sylvanas. Not sure about the third.

    You are 1000% on point with with those two legendaries.

    I'm torn between Justicar or Twin Emp (I'm close to a decent Zoo deck, so Gormok is up there too). No Tirion either.

    If you play a lot of paladin, Tirion without question.

    Then maybe Gormok since he fits into zoo and other aggressive decks pretty well.

    I'm not sure about Veklor. I know he's an awesome card but I'm not convinced that Cthun decks are all that good. I don't think there are any in T1 right now.

    Right now I'm only really playing Patron Warrior and Mid-Range Shaman mostly because they're the two decks I have the cards to play. The issue I'm having is basically choice paralysis because this is the most dust I've ever had at one time and I have a crap ton of holes in my collection.

    Here is the entirety of my Epic & (craftable) Legendaries.
    V3Jd5YQ.png

    If I'm aggressive with my dusting, I'll have about 6500 to play with. So that's 4 Legendaries or maybe 3 Legendaries and some vital cards I'm still missing from classic (since I won't be buying any classic packs for quite a while). I think Sylvanas is the most obvious choice. She's very versatile and can go into a bunch of different decks, so she's a definite. But there's just so many choices for the rest of my dust. I'm kinda tempted to just go through and make a bunch of the classic cards I'm still missing (a 2nd Cold Blood/Eviscerate/Highmane/Aldor/Auchenai/Feral Spirit, a couple Dire Wolves, a MCT, at least one Ice Block/Prep/Twisting Nether/Doomsayer/Faceless Manipulator/Sea Giant).

    I think someone posted this a few pages back, but there's a good crafting guide on Mana Crystals based on overall usage in decks, and then a summary of epics/legendaries for the popular decks. I found it very helpful.

    Huh. I was told that Thalanos wasn't core for Miracle Rogue. Should I craft that? The only legendaries I'm using are VanCleef and Xaril.

    Thalnos is amazing. Spell Power + Draw a card is bonkers.

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    thalnos is more core to miracle than xaril imo

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  • ToyDToyD Registered User regular
    Ok, I think I've done aaaaaalllll the intro stuff and opened up all my free new player packs. Boy, what a long way to go have I. It's definitely a fun game. I've enjoyed all the modes so far. The players with huge card libraries at the higher ranks is no fun, but hopefully after I flesh out my own library better in a few months that won't be so bad. Now to craft a few gimped C'Thun decks until I have some more options.

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  • Idx86Idx86 Long days and pleasant nights.Registered User regular
    ToyD wrote: »
    Ok, I think I've done aaaaaalllll the intro stuff and opened up all my free new player packs. Boy, what a long way to go have I. It's definitely a fun game. I've enjoyed all the modes so far. The players with huge card libraries at the higher ranks is no fun, but hopefully after I flesh out my own library better in a few months that won't be so bad. Now to craft a few gimped C'Thun decks until I have some more options.

    It's a shame we can't gift you cards like we gift Steam games.

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  • Drake ChambersDrake Chambers Lay out my formal shorts. Registered User regular
    ToyD wrote: »
    Ok, I think I've done aaaaaalllll the intro stuff and opened up all my free new player packs. Boy, what a long way to go have I. It's definitely a fun game. I've enjoyed all the modes so far. The players with huge card libraries at the higher ranks is no fun, but hopefully after I flesh out my own library better in a few months that won't be so bad. Now to craft a few gimped C'Thun decks until I have some more options.

    Your enthusiasm makes me happy! It is a great game and there is much fun to be had.

    For the sake of people like you I wish there were a better mechanism in place for matchmaking. I'm no pro -- I've just played on-and-off for years, probably more seriously after this expansion than in the past. The highest I've ever ranked is 10 I'm usually hovering around 15. That said, I actually feel bad sometimes if I get matched against someone who I suspect is playing with limited experience and a shallow card pool, because I know how disheartening it can be to be on the other side of that match.

    Since all the game has to go by is the rank, you lose the perspective you'd have of, say, a room full of gamers and conversation where you could just listen for a bit and figure out who you should and shouldn't be matched up against.

    Also who's a raging cockmonster.

  • ToyDToyD Registered User regular
    Oh the limited emotes quickly let me know who is a cockmonster for sure. Right now I wish it would match against similar library sizes though. Probably going to pick up blackrock and league for those cards soon. Out of the 20 packs for joining through the basics I got no additional legendary cards to base something around and very few overages to disenchant. So mostly I need to use that hearth arena site now that I've played once to hopefully smartly build out my decks some.

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    it'd be cool if rogue had a more reliable board clear that fit into miracle

    if I don't start with backstab/si against several decks the game's already over.

    I tried playing some Miracle in Casual. I died on like turn 5/6 to all kinds of stuff, I'm sure a good amount of that is skill with the deck but it really does fold to anything aggressive.

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  • KolosusKolosus Registered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Yilias wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    it'd be cool if rogue had a more reliable board clear that fit into miracle

    if I don't start with backstab/si against several decks the game's already over.

    I tried playing some Miracle in Casual. I died on like turn 5/6 to all kinds of stuff, I'm sure a good amount of that is skill with the deck but it really does fold to anything aggressive.

    What I have found so far is that you have to aggressively fight for Board control. Against any "aggro" class you need to get either Fan or SI or Earthen.

    I was doing pretty well against Aggro Shaman until today. Just dropped two in a row.

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  • imdointhisimdointhis I should actually stop doin' this. Registered User regular
    what can i put in cthun warrior to really just smash reno locks?

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    imdointhis wrote: »
    what can i put in cthun warrior to really just smash reno locks?

    beneath the grounds

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  • imdointhisimdointhis I should actually stop doin' this. Registered User regular
    ok, so i gotta put shifter zerus in, wait for him to roll spellslinger, and then cast beneeth the grounds? ezpz

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Good news: Beat the brawl on my first attempt, thanks to an on-point priest who refused to suicide his tiny minions and gave me a Millhouse right when I could make the best use of it (beefy minion on the board; BoK, Blessing of Might, Blessing of Wisdom, Seal of Champions, and Blessed Champion in-hand. BoW pulled me a Hand of Protection to ensure the minion stuck around for another hit!).

    Bad news: 40 dust. :(

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    Note to self: do not attempt to rank up to complete quests. Especially when I have no idea how to play the new warrior decks.

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  • Idx86Idx86 Long days and pleasant nights.Registered User regular
    Note to self: do not attempt to rank up to complete quests. Especially when I have no idea how to play the new warrior decks.

    That's why I use Wild for doing dailies. Although now that I'm Rank 12 in WIld, my tryhard mentality is turning on there oo. :bigfrown:

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    imdointhis wrote: »
    ok, so i gotta put shifter zerus in, wait for him to roll spellslinger, and then cast beneeth the grounds? ezpz

    nexus champ, scrub

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    edited May 2016
    https://youtu.be/9xJKk6N9-ts
    This card is a card and you play the card and that's pretty good.

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  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    kripp and firebat have been on point in content lately

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    I think that's a fan video of various Kripp clips, it's not on his official channel.

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  • MadPenMadPen San DiegoRegistered User regular
    I finally got to rank 15! Honestly, I have never had such a hard time getting to 15 as this month. Not even the first month I was playing.

    The fact that I got to 15 on an epic battle with a freeze mage as a miracle monkey rogue that somehow went to fatigue for *both* of us just makes it better.

    I sapped his Antonidas which he only got one fireball out of, and then kept too much pressure on him/was at too high a health total for him to ever play it again. The card that won me the game was the last card in my deck. It was the monkey.

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    There was a neat meta article posted on the comphs reddit: http://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-1/

    The traffic crashed the site for now, but the graphic for compiled class data is interesting; Shaman isn't the most played class!

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  • MadPenMadPen San DiegoRegistered User regular
    edited May 2016
    Yilias wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    it'd be cool if rogue had a more reliable board clear that fit into miracle

    if I don't start with backstab/si against several decks the game's already over.

    I tried playing some Miracle in Casual. I died on like turn 5/6 to all kinds of stuff, I'm sure a good amount of that is skill with the deck but it really does fold to anything aggressive.

    It's not great against aggro, but if you draw well, mulligan properly, and play well, you can win against even decently played zoo/face decks. The key thing is turn 5 (or 4 with coin) Drake->Prep->Fan or Thalnos->Fan. Hopefully you've been able to minimize serious problems before that with backstab, eviscerate, si, clearing with your face, and that 3/3 heal guy.

    I'm not sure about aggro shield paladin specifically. I've won every time in that matchup, but only because they were played badly.

    The problem is you have to draw really well. I'd say it's a 40% matchup against aggro at best. I've almost been considering 1 fan/1 blade flurry instead of 2 fans. Almost.

    edit: the "control" version of miracle is the one I speak of. The "charge/otk" version of Miracle either sucks or I have no idea how to play it. Some of both, I think.

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    FUCK, I ACCIDENTALLY WAS MAINSTREAM

    SHIT

    ALL MY HEARTHSTONE HIPSTER CRED

    RUINED

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  • KonphujunKonphujun Illinois, USARegistered User regular
    Idx86 wrote: »
    ToyD wrote: »
    Ok, I think I've done aaaaaalllll the intro stuff and opened up all my free new player packs. Boy, what a long way to go have I. It's definitely a fun game. I've enjoyed all the modes so far. The players with huge card libraries at the higher ranks is no fun, but hopefully after I flesh out my own library better in a few months that won't be so bad. Now to craft a few gimped C'Thun decks until I have some more options.

    It's a shame we can't gift you cards like we gift Steam games.

    Oh god I've wanted this feature since forever. All my PA bros and lady bros would be so swagged out.

    What's that, you just started out? HERES EVERYTHING YOU'RE WELCOME PAY IT FORWARD.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    FUCK, I ACCIDENTALLY WAS MAINSTREAM

    SHIT

    ALL MY HEARTHSTONE HIPSTER CRED

    RUINED

    are you surprised? like every single streamer is playing warrior permanently nowadays

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    FUCK, I ACCIDENTALLY WAS MAINSTREAM

    SHIT

    ALL MY HEARTHSTONE HIPSTER CRED

    RUINED

    are you surprised? like every single streamer is playing warrior permanently nowadays

    I only really watch Strifecro, who almost never plays Warrior, and Hotform, who only occasionally plays Warrior (mostly just on his most recent legend grind).

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    3clipse wrote: »
    FUCK, I ACCIDENTALLY WAS MAINSTREAM

    SHIT

    ALL MY HEARTHSTONE HIPSTER CRED

    RUINED

    are you surprised? like every single streamer is playing warrior permanently nowadays

    I only really watch Strifecro, who almost never plays Warrior, and Hotform, who only occasionally plays Warrior (mostly just on his most recent legend grind).

    lol, I've mostly been watching hotform lately.

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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    The real crime is that people are playing boring Warrior instead of Pirate Warrior.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    The real crime is that people are playing boring Warrior instead of Pirate Warrior.

    I approve of more Punchy Warrior.

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  • KonphujunKonphujun Illinois, USARegistered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    Yilias wrote: »
    The real crime is that people are playing boring Warrior instead of Pirate Warrior.

    I approve of more Punchy Warrior.

    Tempo Warrior is the light, and as we all know, the light shall burn you.

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    FUCK, I ACCIDENTALLY WAS MAINSTREAM

    SHIT

    ALL MY HEARTHSTONE HIPSTER CRED

    RUINED

    are you surprised? like every single streamer is playing warrior permanently nowadays

    Which is great because control paladin destroys warriors.

    Not that I'm seeing that stuff where I am. It's all Shaman and Shaman around here.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    I know that sounds bad but at some ranks there's also people playing Shaman to contend with

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  • CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Okay yeah I haven't won any games with N'zoth Priest above rank 10, nevermind about playing that deck. Aaargh.

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    I do think c'thun is the way to go with priest nowadays

    darkmender too stronk

    (shieldbearer is still better because goddammit blizz)

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  • SeGaTaiSeGaTai Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    Okay yeah I haven't won any games with N'zoth Priest above rank 10, nevermind about playing that deck. Aaargh.

    It's fun but the fact that some people run chillmaw with no chance of the death rattle going off just to get another taunt tells you the strength of the deck

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  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    Played a control mage earlier today who had me on the ropes the entire game. We go all the way to fatigue and he drops Yogg who fills his board with minions right before casting Doom. Mage draws seven cards into fatigue and kills herself.

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    People, people, this is like the 4th Mechazod Brawl. How have we still not learned that you don't Cho on turn 2 and that you don't buff Cho because he just dies after 2 turns? GAAAH.

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  • NeadenNeaden Registered User regular
    I'm surprised patron is the lowest warrior in that. It seems fairly strong and is fairly dust cheap.

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