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Only watched Blade Runner for the first time earlier this year. And I was baffled about the replicant question. Because it didn't seem like something the movie posed at all. And at least for me, actively would negate the themes of the movie.
Only watched Blade Runner for the first time earlier this year. And I was baffled about the replicant question. Because it didn't seem like something the movie posed at all. And at least for me, actively would negate the themes of the movie.
I had the same experience. At the very least I dont understand why it has become this overriding focus such that its the only thing that ever gets discussed when you bring up Bladerunner.
The movie has a lot going on but it feels like people only want to discuss that single question.
Hey can y'all be extremely fucking careful around this point please
Agreed. I double-spoilered my post for a reason.
Also, let me be as clear as I can: my spoiler tag does not reveal whether or not Deckard is a replicant, because the review I read does not reveal that information. Anyone posting tidbits that hint one way or the other did not get their conclusion based on what I wrote. And if they did, they're guessing. I can't ruin it for anyone because I don't know.
There's not much else to talk about other than "wow, this movie looks amazing."
Oh, there's also "is Deckard's nerd impression good?"
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it is very good
It had been enough that I completely forgot this scene and was like "oh wow, Ford should do more nerd voices because this is hilarious"
I feel like I’ve seen him do it something else too, but I can’t quite put my finger on what it was
Uh, everything is under control. Situation normal. Uh, had a slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
Also, there's the scene in Blade Runner itself where he first meets Zhora
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ChimeraMonster girl with a snek tail and five eyesBad puns, that's how eye roll. Registered Userregular
i hate the version with the narrations. burn that version.
So fun fact, when they told Harrison Ford that the studio required he record a narration that he hated the idea so much he purposefully sucked at it as bad as he could in hopes that the studio would change their mind and ditch it. He was wrong and the studio felt that it had to be included because audiences wouldn't understand what was happening on the screen.
So some other strange facts about it are that Ridley and Harrison are not really friends and fought a lot. This shows in a few scenes that Harrison felt the directing was stupid on and so he tried to botch them in an attempt to force a re shoot or rewrite or exclusion of that from the film but they were still kept in. He is also a staunch supporter of the idea that Decker is NOT a "skin job" and has butted heads with Ridley over this fact as well.
Ridley has this weird obsession with Decker being a replicant and supposedly formed the opinion after the movie was made. Honestly I hope it doesn't turn out that he is one as it would ruin a lot of his moral dilemma and also hurt some of the continuity but Ridley was once quoted that if he did squeal he would put proof in it that Decker is a replicant, so we shall see.
Also yes the unicorn bit was total hack work and silly as well as unused footage from another Ridley film that he really wanted to shove into the movie. I like Ridley Scott's work but sometimes *cough*Prometheus*cough* he really can slide off the rails. He also is a bit eccentric and crazy but that is part of the charm of him and his films even if he is like really good at his craft when not getting too schlockie.
So what's everyone think of the shorts? I rather like the animated one!
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
Instead of unused unicorn footage from Legend, they should have put in unused Tim Curry footage
Ford has also repeatedly said he did not intentionally try to sink the narration, he just did what he could with bad material and no direction or input of any kind
Ford has also repeatedly said he did not intentionally try to sink the narration, he just did what he could with bad material and no direction or input of any kind
I think a lot of those claims came after the studio tried to get him to recant it. In the end I think there is a mix between the stories. One thing about it though is that it could have added to the story and been cool had they decided to make it a true future-noir pic from the get go but obviously this was not the case.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
In general I agree, but I think that if the movie had been made with that in mind from the beginning rather than a last second "We're not sure if audiences are stupid or not" measure, given the stylistic leanings of the movie it could have worked and not felt out of place.
With Ridley "Deckard always a replicant" Scott you have to take it with a grain of salt but that's the story as it is told. The rumours of the scene being from Legend is just people looking at the two movies and saying the unicorns look the same. But the facts are on the side of the unicorn scene being original to Blade Runner, unless there's some more info out there.
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MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
With Ridley "Deckard always a replicant" Scott you have to take it with a grain of salt but that's the story as it is told. The rumours of the scene being from Legend is just people looking at the two movies and saying the unicorns look the same. But the facts are on the side of the unicorn scene being original to Blade Runner, unless there's some more info out there.
The rumor goes a little further than that, since Ridley Scott also directed Legend.
Unlike Ridley claiming Deckard was always a replicant (which is contradicted by many other people who worked on the film saying "what? no") his claim that the scene was always shot for Blade Runner hasn't been disagreed with by other people who worked on the film. If someone in the know disagreed with his assertion that Deckard was always a replicant, they could have easily pointed at the unicorn scene being added in later as that proof Ridley was changing the story later to fit. But the unicorn scene existed and was going to be in the theatrical cut but was cut at the request of the producers (or so the story goes).
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ChimeraMonster girl with a snek tail and five eyesBad puns, that's how eye roll. Registered Userregular
With Ridley "Deckard always a replicant" Scott you have to take it with a grain of salt but that's the story as it is told.
In the interview he did with Digital Spy he straight up said, "he is definitely a replicant." He says the fact is a "duh" and points to the unicorn origami as the proof.
The story I had heard was that they used test footage from Legend (thus the different horse and alicorn) to pad out the DC/Final Cut. Clearly that's not true, but it made sense.
MaddocI'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother?Registered Userregular
I think it's played for romance, just really badly in a way that doesn't hold up in the slightest and doesn't really address the idea that Deckard's job is to kill Rachael so any advances by him are pretty super fucked up no matter how they go.
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I had the same experience. At the very least I dont understand why it has become this overriding focus such that its the only thing that ever gets discussed when you bring up Bladerunner.
The movie has a lot going on but it feels like people only want to discuss that single question.
Agreed. I double-spoilered my post for a reason.
Also, let me be as clear as I can: my spoiler tag does not reveal whether or not Deckard is a replicant, because the review I read does not reveal that information. Anyone posting tidbits that hint one way or the other did not get their conclusion based on what I wrote. And if they did, they're guessing. I can't ruin it for anyone because I don't know.
Oh, there's also "is Deckard's nerd impression good?"
spoiler
it is very good
It had been enough that I completely forgot this scene and was like "oh wow, Ford should do more nerd voices because this is hilarious"
Better than this though
I feel like I’ve seen him do it in something else too, but I can’t quite put my finger on what it was
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Star Wars?
"Everything's under control, situation normal!"
Uh, everything is under control. Situation normal. Uh, had a slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you. How are you?
Also, there's the scene in Blade Runner itself where he first meets Zhora
So fun fact, when they told Harrison Ford that the studio required he record a narration that he hated the idea so much he purposefully sucked at it as bad as he could in hopes that the studio would change their mind and ditch it. He was wrong and the studio felt that it had to be included because audiences wouldn't understand what was happening on the screen.
So some other strange facts about it are that Ridley and Harrison are not really friends and fought a lot. This shows in a few scenes that Harrison felt the directing was stupid on and so he tried to botch them in an attempt to force a re shoot or rewrite or exclusion of that from the film but they were still kept in. He is also a staunch supporter of the idea that Decker is NOT a "skin job" and has butted heads with Ridley over this fact as well.
Ridley has this weird obsession with Decker being a replicant and supposedly formed the opinion after the movie was made. Honestly I hope it doesn't turn out that he is one as it would ruin a lot of his moral dilemma and also hurt some of the continuity but Ridley was once quoted that if he did squeal he would put proof in it that Decker is a replicant, so we shall see.
Also yes the unicorn bit was total hack work and silly as well as unused footage from another Ridley film that he really wanted to shove into the movie. I like Ridley Scott's work but sometimes *cough*Prometheus*cough* he really can slide off the rails. He also is a bit eccentric and crazy but that is part of the charm of him and his films even if he is like really good at his craft when not getting too schlockie.
So what's everyone think of the shorts? I rather like the animated one!
Yup it most certainly was!
No, it wasn't.
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I think a lot of those claims came after the studio tried to get him to recant it. In the end I think there is a mix between the stories. One thing about it though is that it could have added to the story and been cool had they decided to make it a true future-noir pic from the get go but obviously this was not the case.
In general I agree, but I think that if the movie had been made with that in mind from the beginning rather than a last second "We're not sure if audiences are stupid or not" measure, given the stylistic leanings of the movie it could have worked and not felt out of place.
well it doesn't super hold up to 2017's standards of what constitutes consent
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The rumor goes a little further than that, since Ridley Scott also directed Legend.
The horns look different too.
Legend:
The Blade Runner horn has a tighter spiral.
Unlike Ridley claiming Deckard was always a replicant (which is contradicted by many other people who worked on the film saying "what? no") his claim that the scene was always shot for Blade Runner hasn't been disagreed with by other people who worked on the film. If someone in the know disagreed with his assertion that Deckard was always a replicant, they could have easily pointed at the unicorn scene being added in later as that proof Ridley was changing the story later to fit. But the unicorn scene existed and was going to be in the theatrical cut but was cut at the request of the producers (or so the story goes).
In the interview he did with Digital Spy he straight up said, "he is definitely a replicant." He says the fact is a "duh" and points to the unicorn origami as the proof.
But, your butts....!
It's kind of amazing how for me Ridley Scott as a director or producer has just gone downhill for me since Blade Runner.
I'm watching the movie right now
He slams the door on her as she tries to leave, throws her against the wall, and corners her
It's super unsettling!
It's played for romance!
I do not think there is any way that scene is “played for romance”.
In fact, I have some unresolved issues about the end of the movie, which means I need to watch it again.
you can tell it's romantic and not rapey because of the synthsax
I was literally about to write "he might as well be howling at the moon" and then he howled onscreen