Spain attacked me with a cohesive but adorable little army. Now I have to destroy him utterly finally. Tech has slowed down a bit because I forgot to keep building more campus districts, but holy hell Pericles' culture game is absurd. I'm suzerain on 5 city states and just blasting through the culture tree.
I think I didn't make enough builders early in the game and packed my core cities too closely together (4 tiles each).
Still down for MP tonight if people want to try to get a game together.
So, for folks who've spent a decent amount of time with 6, how does it compare to current civ5? Going from beyond the sword to vanilla 5 felt like a step backward to me and I don't think I really want a rewind of that experience
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So, for folks who've spent a decent amount of time with 6, how does it compare to current civ5? Going from beyond the sword to vanilla 5 felt like a step backward to me and I don't think I really want a rewind of that experience
It has almost all of the features from Civ V + expansions. Religion is in (and now a victory condition), spying, culture's tourism and archaeology, and city states have been beefed up in relevancy.
The only big thing missing is a diplomacy victory via world congress (note that diplomacy itself is still a thing). You can kinda see how it'll work (being the Surezain of every city-state), but apparently they have something in mind that they couldn't get right in time for launch.
I really like my starting region for my second game. Even with Pericles being a donger and lurking around there's basically half my borders that is entirely impenetrable. Not because of anything I did though, just because of how the world is laid out.
I'm sure my resource output is garbage for how far in I am and I don't see any particular path to victory, but i'm slowly learning how everything works and i'm enjoying myself. I really like how barbarians work, clearing them out is super satisfying.
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So far I'm liking the game but sadly my laptop doesn't meet minimum requirements apparently, so that's probably going to cut down on how much I actually get to play it for awhile.
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So, my counter espionage spies ask for new orders every turn or so. Any way to leave them parked on my science city without asking for further orders if i wanted to?
So, my counter espionage spies ask for new orders every turn or so. Any way to leave them parked on my science city without asking for further orders if i wanted to?
Culture victory achieved. Prince was super easy I was like 20 techs ahead and nobody even got to rank 2 governments I don't think. I got so many Great Writers I had nothing to do with because of the Acropolis I think?
Anyway, if we get a couple more launch a MP game in a half hour, otherwise I'll start game 2 on King.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Still has the end game everyone hates you thing. My closest ally, US, been careful to do literally everything he wants all game, and suddenly he surprise warfares me, along with countries I never interacted with.
How do I change my view to display production on my tiles? I want to see bread+hammers (or I guess it's like, corn and cogs) by default, without having to hover over. But I can't find a toggle.
How do I change my view to display production on my tiles? I want to see bread+hammers (or I guess it's like, corn and cogs) by default, without having to hover over. But I can't find a toggle.
above the mini map, second button is map options, toggle "show yield icons".
So, for folks who've spent a decent amount of time with 6, how does it compare to current civ5? Going from beyond the sword to vanilla 5 felt like a step backward to me and I don't think I really want a rewind of that experience
It has almost all of the features from Civ V + expansions. Religion is in (and now a victory condition), spying, culture's tourism and archaeology, and city states have been beefed up in relevancy.
The only big thing missing is a diplomacy victory via world congress (note that diplomacy itself is still a thing). You can kinda see how it'll work (being the Surezain of every city-state), but apparently they have something in mind that they couldn't get right in time for launch.
I've only played it a bit due to work but it seems like the vanilla game is only lacking in a huge variety of units/buildings while having all the big features. Civ5 vanilla was the opposite, having a good variety of units and shit while lacking major features at release.
Also important to note that civ6 likely took less work than 5 did, with them being able to work out most the modern Civ machinery in 5. Also firaxis has a lot more money these days due to the success of civ5 and XCOM.
Meanwhile: after a very long war in which arabia refused to go for peace inspite of the stalemate, they suddenly just sued for peace so hard they gave me their Scone of Stone.
I'm not sure, but i have this feeling that the army of Aztec Swordsmen backed up by Sun Tzu that just came pouring out of the rain forests dividing out territory may have been a key moment in this decision.
Looks like in the early game, before I've discovered better diplomacy, there's no way for me to let the game/world know that I'm declaring was on someone to protect a city-state I'm suzerain of, correct? I just have to go for it and accept warmonger penalties?
I had an interesting experience blundering blindly through the tech tree in my first game (Prince difficulty)
I hit Modern Era whilst everyone else is Renaissance or below. No real military tech but no reason to fight til then either. Then I go to war to protect an ally and am outnumbered badly so rush the nearest military tech... chemistry.
So my army is crossbows, swordsmen, and anti-tank crews.
I'm about halfway through my first game on king, trying to stop rome from taking that early advantage from difficulty 5 and crowding me out of the entire continent. as I'm doing so, I notice I have suzerain on three city states without having really done anything, maybe 1-2 quests very early. is this rare, or is it that much easier to have a couple city-states in your pocket as envoys pile up?
edit: I do have the "1 envoy counts as 2 policy", so maybe this was a silly post. you do get that policy early though and I haven't had any reason to switch off of it due to lack of competition for diplo policies.
I just finished up my first game on Prince as the Teddy Roosevelt. A lot of attempts to juggle things as I realized I forgot things but didn't feel overwhelmed at all.
Teddy's bonus to fighting on his home continent is a really versatile bonus. I didn't have any issues with barbs outside of some camps spawning in tiny slivers of fog of war later on and when it was time to fight it helped tip things further in my favor early on.
I kind of blundered around the tech and buildings early on. Didn't bother with monuments, built Stonehenge before I had any pantheons so I couldn't actually found a religion, etc. Did mean I had really high tech compared to my civics.
Still, knowing the basics of what to strive towards helped. Teddy wants to hunt and since you can't take down the ambient wildlife, that means hunting the most dangerous game. I started out by horses so horsemen became a big chunk of my forces early on. Then I researched the tech that reveals iron and found only one source in a sucky area but I settled it anyway thereby pissing off Kongo. Kongo made the mistake of declaring war on the only ancient/classical era civ to have iron. Russia did too but were so far away that they accepted peace within a few turns. Didn't have the best army balance but Kongo couldn't really attack back meaningfully so I absorbed both of their cities and got a big boost to my output. The rest of the early game was trying to settle the rest of the landmass before Russia while Norway mostly was stuck in a corner. I decided to start cleaning up the rest of the continent (well continents, our big landmass was weirdly divided into two continents somehow) and wiped out Norway in a holy way after they'd converted one of my cities way back. Since I'd gotten into the religion game really late, about half of my cities had been converted by Russia too. While finishing off Norway, India landed some apostles on the continent. And then more apostles. Then a whole lot more apostles. Nuke Happy Gandhi had already converted the 3 other civs on his home continent and was going for a religion win in the 1200s.
I ask Gandhi to not convert my cities. Naturally he acts cooperative and then ignores it. He converts my Protestant holy city and it winds up being the job of a recently settled city that's still Protestant to start an inquisition after focusing on holy site buildings the next century. In the meantime Gandhi is now my primary threat so I load units into the sea to find a good landing spot and then invade with a lot of Rough Riders, some musketmen, and bombardiers. Russia decides it's time to declare war on me as well for some reason or another but they're stuck with horsemen and crossbows against gunpowder units. India is really spread out on hills and jungle so it takes a while to finish them off but they fall as does Russia.
So now I have a second large landmass I have a few cities on after keeping the best of the Indian cities. Germany is a bit pissy because I'm friendly with city states but stuck in the Medieval era. Sumeria is neutral and at a similar tech level. Spain has one city and that's it. After converting my former Indian cities to Protestantism, I have some leftover apostles and try to use one on Madrid. Phillip denounces me even after I agree to not do it again, I decide to test out a tank using a colonial war cassus belli. While I'm doing that, Germany declares war, then mostly gets torn apart by my city bombardment when their catapults and horsemen get in range. Sumeria is fine with me converting one of its cities so after taking Madrid I decide I'll just wipe out Germany and send more apostles to Sumeria. It'll be quicker than a space race since I keep putting off building a space port in favor of more housing in my highest production city.
Then the cinematic for a cultural win pops up around 1800. I built all of one theatre district but Moscow had been building an art museum when I took it over and a great artist populating it with 3 paintings was apparently enough to push me over the edge when combined with two great writers and one archaeologist excavating.
Game 2 bumped up to King, was Scythia had like a three pasture/two stone capital that was fucking beautiful. Unfortunately Gilgamesh was my nearest neighbor and he just rushed out those fucking war carts and slaughtered me. Live and learn.
Game 3 is Kongo, still on King. In the middle of Monty, Pericles, and Cleo. Monty of course spams a billion dudes so Cleo loves him and then Pericles got mad at me for taking a city state (oops). Fortunately I'm way ahead in tech, so Monty's 30 fucking Eagle Warriors are just obnoxious and die at the end of crossbows. I need to start eliminating people so I'm not constantly at war. My war weariness is crippling my happiness so I can't make my cities huge like I want to. The Mbanza is really, really good but I haven't had the time to really use it to yet because of the constant war. Think I'll be eliminating Cleo in the current war, just need another Bombard or two.
EDIT: It seems like the King AI just spams units and neglects their economy. Which is kind of boring now that I've survived the early game and my Renaissance/Industrial era units are slaughtering their Classical Era units. Though Egypt does have a Knight.
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Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
Man, don't let your cities stay too mad for too long. A citizen revolt spawned 4 barbarians with anti-tank weapons surrounding my already floundering city; took my musket corps a while to clean up the mess.
In my current game my continent is me (Egypt) and Germany on one continent with a ton of city states. The other continent has lost like 3-4 civs. It's kinda weird.
Also I'm not seeing how Egypt's unique buildings are better than like, farms. Except if I just put them on tiles where I don't want anything else.
Culture victory achieved. Prince was super easy I was like 20 techs ahead and nobody even got to rank 2 governments I don't think. I got so many Great Writers I had nothing to do with because of the Acropolis I think?
Anyway, if we get a couple more launch a MP game in a half hour, otherwise I'll start game 2 on King.
Yeah, Russia was my only competitor for culture, and his response to my constant wave of spies failing to steal his shit was to be grumpy and then later hand back my spies in return for an alliance.
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that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
The only big thing missing is a diplomacy victory via world congress (note that diplomacy itself is still a thing). You can kinda see how it'll work (being the Surezain of every city-state), but apparently they have something in mind that they couldn't get right in time for launch.
I'm sure my resource output is garbage for how far in I am and I don't see any particular path to victory, but i'm slowly learning how everything works and i'm enjoying myself. I really like how barbarians work, clearing them out is super satisfying.
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Anyway, if we get a couple more launch a MP game in a half hour, otherwise I'll start game 2 on King.
There are no new districts or buildings I can build in my capitol, and I wanna wait on building more units
Is there a way to end the turn without starting a production?
Build a cheap unit and disband it for gold once it's done? Not sure if there's better options.
If you have districts built, there should be special projects (at the very bottom of the list) to burn production filling other bins.
above the mini map, second button is map options, toggle "show yield icons".
I've only played it a bit due to work but it seems like the vanilla game is only lacking in a huge variety of units/buildings while having all the big features. Civ5 vanilla was the opposite, having a good variety of units and shit while lacking major features at release.
Also important to note that civ6 likely took less work than 5 did, with them being able to work out most the modern Civ machinery in 5. Also firaxis has a lot more money these days due to the success of civ5 and XCOM.
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Good thing the replacement's already on its way.
In three weeks.
Sigh...
I'm not sure, but i have this feeling that the army of Aztec Swordsmen backed up by Sun Tzu that just came pouring out of the rain forests dividing out territory may have been a key moment in this decision.
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There is an early policy that doubles your damage done to barbs, if they're running rampant that's a good place to look.
I hit Modern Era whilst everyone else is Renaissance or below. No real military tech but no reason to fight til then either. Then I go to war to protect an ally and am outnumbered badly so rush the nearest military tech... chemistry.
So my army is crossbows, swordsmen, and anti-tank crews.
BOOM.
edit: I do have the "1 envoy counts as 2 policy", so maybe this was a silly post. you do get that policy early though and I haven't had any reason to switch off of it due to lack of competition for diplo policies.
Teddy's bonus to fighting on his home continent is a really versatile bonus. I didn't have any issues with barbs outside of some camps spawning in tiny slivers of fog of war later on and when it was time to fight it helped tip things further in my favor early on.
I kind of blundered around the tech and buildings early on. Didn't bother with monuments, built Stonehenge before I had any pantheons so I couldn't actually found a religion, etc. Did mean I had really high tech compared to my civics.
Still, knowing the basics of what to strive towards helped. Teddy wants to hunt and since you can't take down the ambient wildlife, that means hunting the most dangerous game. I started out by horses so horsemen became a big chunk of my forces early on. Then I researched the tech that reveals iron and found only one source in a sucky area but I settled it anyway thereby pissing off Kongo. Kongo made the mistake of declaring war on the only ancient/classical era civ to have iron. Russia did too but were so far away that they accepted peace within a few turns. Didn't have the best army balance but Kongo couldn't really attack back meaningfully so I absorbed both of their cities and got a big boost to my output. The rest of the early game was trying to settle the rest of the landmass before Russia while Norway mostly was stuck in a corner. I decided to start cleaning up the rest of the continent (well continents, our big landmass was weirdly divided into two continents somehow) and wiped out Norway in a holy way after they'd converted one of my cities way back. Since I'd gotten into the religion game really late, about half of my cities had been converted by Russia too. While finishing off Norway, India landed some apostles on the continent. And then more apostles. Then a whole lot more apostles. Nuke Happy Gandhi had already converted the 3 other civs on his home continent and was going for a religion win in the 1200s.
I ask Gandhi to not convert my cities. Naturally he acts cooperative and then ignores it. He converts my Protestant holy city and it winds up being the job of a recently settled city that's still Protestant to start an inquisition after focusing on holy site buildings the next century. In the meantime Gandhi is now my primary threat so I load units into the sea to find a good landing spot and then invade with a lot of Rough Riders, some musketmen, and bombardiers. Russia decides it's time to declare war on me as well for some reason or another but they're stuck with horsemen and crossbows against gunpowder units. India is really spread out on hills and jungle so it takes a while to finish them off but they fall as does Russia.
So now I have a second large landmass I have a few cities on after keeping the best of the Indian cities. Germany is a bit pissy because I'm friendly with city states but stuck in the Medieval era. Sumeria is neutral and at a similar tech level. Spain has one city and that's it. After converting my former Indian cities to Protestantism, I have some leftover apostles and try to use one on Madrid. Phillip denounces me even after I agree to not do it again, I decide to test out a tank using a colonial war cassus belli. While I'm doing that, Germany declares war, then mostly gets torn apart by my city bombardment when their catapults and horsemen get in range. Sumeria is fine with me converting one of its cities so after taking Madrid I decide I'll just wipe out Germany and send more apostles to Sumeria. It'll be quicker than a space race since I keep putting off building a space port in favor of more housing in my highest production city.
Then the cinematic for a cultural win pops up around 1800. I built all of one theatre district but Moscow had been building an art museum when I took it over and a great artist populating it with 3 paintings was apparently enough to push me over the edge when combined with two great writers and one archaeologist excavating.
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Game 3 is Kongo, still on King. In the middle of Monty, Pericles, and Cleo. Monty of course spams a billion dudes so Cleo loves him and then Pericles got mad at me for taking a city state (oops). Fortunately I'm way ahead in tech, so Monty's 30 fucking Eagle Warriors are just obnoxious and die at the end of crossbows. I need to start eliminating people so I'm not constantly at war. My war weariness is crippling my happiness so I can't make my cities huge like I want to. The Mbanza is really, really good but I haven't had the time to really use it to yet because of the constant war. Think I'll be eliminating Cleo in the current war, just need another Bombard or two.
EDIT: It seems like the King AI just spams units and neglects their economy. Which is kind of boring now that I've survived the early game and my Renaissance/Industrial era units are slaughtering their Classical Era units. Though Egypt does have a Knight.
Also I'm not seeing how Egypt's unique buildings are better than like, farms. Except if I just put them on tiles where I don't want anything else.
Uh sure.