I don't think she's lying about being pregnant, but about who the father is. The writing very pointedly doesn't ask who the father is, but who they're going to tell people the father is. So technically Cersei isn't lying when she says they'll tell people the father is Jamie.
Like, are you thinking the father is Euron? Or somebody else?
Yes
That seems crazy to me
We didn't see Euron in this episode at all and we've seen her be with Jaime recently
If anything they're setting up the idea that she'll go back on this and tell people the father is Euron to cement an alliance, embittering Jaime
That or she's lying about it altogether to keep him loyal/motivated
So next week we have an honest-to-God Quest happening.
Who's gonna make it? Who's not? We're too close to the end to send this many men into peril and all of them make it back.
Doomed men: Thoros, Barric, Gendry
Protected by plots that still need to payoff: The Hound, Jon
Edge cases that could honestly break either way: Jorah, Davos
Isn't technically plot-relevant, but still needs to hook up with Brienne so they better not kill him: Tormund
How is The Hound plot relevant?
He's cool and all but every time he shows up I'm like "why is he still around"
He's gonna kill The Mountain. Or they'll kill each other.
doesn't the hound have some shiny new half-plot armor with the prophecy stuff as well? or do we think that's been covered now that they're physically at Eastwatch?
All last night's episode did was solidify my opinion that Jon Snow is probably the best person to take the Iron Throne.
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That enormous, brilliantly glowing neon sign screaming "HE WILL DIE NEXT EPISODE" that floated above Jorah at all times was a really bold creative choice.
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So next week we have an honest-to-God Quest happening.
Who's gonna make it? Who's not? We're too close to the end to send this many men into peril and all of them make it back.
Doomed men: Thoros, Barric, Gendry
Protected by plots that still need to payoff: The Hound, Jon
Edge cases that could honestly break either way: Jorah, Davos
Isn't technically plot-relevant, but still needs to hook up with Brienne so they better not kill him: Tormund
I think Gendry will make it out.
I'm assuming the whole point of all of this is that even when they collectively stand together and beat the white walkers that, some time afterwards, all this starts over again because people relive history over and over. That a Baratheon, a Targaryan, a Lannister, and a Stark will somehow end up at war again after whoever takes the throne dies. So Jon and Gendry will make it out. As will the Hound and mmaaaayybe Thoros.
Beric's done. Jorah's done. I think Tormund will make it out but lose an arm or something.
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So next week we have an honest-to-God Quest happening.
Who's gonna make it? Who's not? We're too close to the end to send this many men into peril and all of them make it back.
Doomed men: Thoros, Barric, Gendry
Protected by plots that still need to payoff: The Hound, Jon
Edge cases that could honestly break either way: Jorah, Davos
Isn't technically plot-relevant, but still needs to hook up with Brienne so they better not kill him: Tormund
I think Gendry will make it out.
I'm assuming the whole point of all of this is that even when they collectively stand together and beat the white walkers that, some time afterwards, all this starts over again because people relive history over and over. That a Baratheon, a Targaryan, a Lannister, and a Stark will somehow end up at war again after whoever takes the throne dies. So Jon and Gendry will make it out. As will the Hound and mmaaaayybe Thoros.
Beric's done. Jorah's done. I think Tormund will make it out but lose an arm or something.
tormund's gonna lose the rest of his dick to remind us that this is GoT, baby
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Quest goal:
We're all 100% positive not all of them are living through this, right?
With that in mind, our collective room-watching guess last night was - if any proof is actually obtained - it'll end up being one member of the group that just walked out the gate.
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I am willing to bet dollar dollar bills that 1 of the following 2 things happen:
1. Sandor "dies" bit Beric uses up his last remaining rez on him or whatever and he comes back as Revenant Sandor (essentially the Lady Stoneheart story but for Sandor instead) leading to Undead Cleganebowl
2. Thoros dies, Beric lives, and Beric has to deal with the sudden reality that he ain't got no more rez left, because the Night King is MMO savvy and ganks the cleric first
Pony on
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7. Jon Snow - too plot essential, has Valyrian steel
6. Tormund - so different in the books from the show that he's a wild card
4. Beric - flaming sword? flaming sword.
4. Gendry - Just came back, and I think it'd be a shame if he died so soon but here we are. 2H hammer is good against undead per D&D logic
3. Thoros - has no real reason to die but his existence is anathema to the Night King so he has a target on his back
2. Sandor - no special weapons, narrative symmetry of going undead for Cleganebowl, devotion to Rh'llor
1. Jorah - the coin scene marked him for death pretty hard eh
7. Jon Snow - too plot essential, has Valyrian steel
6. Davos - not a fighter but he's still got plenty of arc left and they didn't really set him up as having a send-off in this episode
4. Beric - flaming sword? flaming sword.
4. Gendry - Just came back, and I think it'd be a shame if he died so soon but here we are. 2H hammer is good against undead per D&D logic
3. Thoros - has no real reason to die but his existence is anathema to the Night King so he has a target on his back
2. Sandor - no special weapons, narrative symmetry of going undead for Cleganebowl, devotion to Rh'llor
1. Jorah - the coin scene marked him for death pretty hard eh
putting Tormund as a wild card because he's already dead in the books and his show arc is so very different
7. Jon Snow - too plot essential, has Valyrian steel
6. Davos - not a fighter but he's still got plenty of arc left and they didn't really set him up as having a send-off in this episode
4. Beric - flaming sword? flaming sword.
4. Gendry - Just came back, and I think it'd be a shame if he died so soon but here we are. 2H hammer is good against undead per D&D logic
3. Thoros - has no real reason to die but his existence is anathema to the Night King so he has a target on his back
2. Sandor - no special weapons, narrative symmetry of going undead for Cleganebowl, devotion to Rh'llor
1. Jorah - the coin scene marked him for death pretty hard eh
putting Tormund as a wild card because he's already dead in the books and his show arc is so very different
After getting a close look at that dragons teeth, is anyone else thinking that if they lived in a fantasy world they could make a fortune as Monster Dentist?
Because all monsters seem to have teeth pointing goddamn everywhere.
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I reckon Dragons are like sharks, just rows and rows of self replacing teeth.
As for Jon's Seven, (oh hey wait a minute.....maybe there's Seven of them for that reason and not just the cowboy one?) I'd say that Beric, Thoros and Jorah are the ones to watch for biting it. Bonus points if Jorah becomes their undead captive because of some dumb sacrifice.
Thoros, because he has the least characterization of anyone, and tbh it nips "can Thoros resurrect them?" in the bud as a story thing
Possibly after he resurrects Beric on final time, or during his last attempt?
Like he's bent over Beric, saying the prayer, and BOOM white walker sword through the chest
alternately, while he's in the middle of raising Sandor back up, like it's a dead Sandor fake-out, I want to believe UNDEAD CLEGANEBOWL is real
that's my money
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I actually hope it doesn't happen this way, because it doesn't really have a narrative payoff (for Jon anyway), and in some ways would be detrimental to the narrative given what's been explained of the process and aftermath, but for shock value I could see them going with:
Thoros dies first - oh no, now we don't have a battle res
Someone(s) else goes down, likely Jorah/Gendry
Then the shocker, Jon is killed...
But the (non-bookreading) audience gets the psych out and Berric does his best Stoneheart and brings Jon back and we get the twice resurrected reluctant king
And then the survivors bug out, possibly without an undead and Jon has to explain to Dany that Jorah is dead, slowing the slow burn even more.
I just had a thought:
Political marriage, keeping the Vale tied to the North, keep Littlefinger under control: marry him to Arya. Give me one more scene where Littlefinger knows he's losing control of his plans and demonstrate Arya's cold-bloodedness to him, and I'll buy into that idea.
Nah, gotta be just another wacky idea, right?
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That seems crazy to me
If anything they're setting up the idea that she'll go back on this and tell people the father is Euron to cement an alliance, embittering Jaime
That or she's lying about it altogether to keep him loyal/motivated
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Protected by plots that still need to payoff: The Hound, Jon
Edge cases that could honestly break either way: Jorah, Davos
Isn't technically plot-relevant, but still needs to hook up with Brienne so they better not kill him: Tormund
He's cool and all but every time he shows up I'm like "why is he still around"
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I'm assuming the whole point of all of this is that even when they collectively stand together and beat the white walkers that, some time afterwards, all this starts over again because people relive history over and over. That a Baratheon, a Targaryan, a Lannister, and a Stark will somehow end up at war again after whoever takes the throne dies. So Jon and Gendry will make it out. As will the Hound and mmaaaayybe Thoros.
Beric's done. Jorah's done. I think Tormund will make it out but lose an arm or something.
tormund's gonna lose the rest of his dick to remind us that this is GoT, baby
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With that in mind, our collective room-watching guess last night was - if any proof is actually obtained - it'll end up being one member of the group that just walked out the gate.
wow I am a failure at life
must have alt-tabbed away or something
1. Sandor "dies" bit Beric uses up his last remaining rez on him or whatever and he comes back as Revenant Sandor (essentially the Lady Stoneheart story but for Sandor instead) leading to Undead Cleganebowl
2. Thoros dies, Beric lives, and Beric has to deal with the sudden reality that he ain't got no more rez left, because the Night King is MMO savvy and ganks the cleric first
tormund has a self-reported bearfucking injury
6. Tormund - so different in the books from the show that he's a wild card
4. Beric - flaming sword? flaming sword.
4. Gendry - Just came back, and I think it'd be a shame if he died so soon but here we are. 2H hammer is good against undead per D&D logic
3. Thoros - has no real reason to die but his existence is anathema to the Night King so he has a target on his back
2. Sandor - no special weapons, narrative symmetry of going undead for Cleganebowl, devotion to Rh'llor
1. Jorah - the coin scene marked him for death pretty hard eh
Davos isn't going and you're missing Tormund
good catch
Tormund's my wild card at this point honestly
Also its cool so see Gendry use the two headed hammer, a bit of weapon variation is nice.
Because all monsters seem to have teeth pointing goddamn everywhere.
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Possibly after he resurrects Beric on final time, or during his last attempt?
Like he's bent over Beric, saying the prayer, and BOOM white walker sword through the chest
alternately, while he's in the middle of raising Sandor back up, like it's a dead Sandor fake-out, I want to believe UNDEAD CLEGANEBOWL is real
that's my money
it's a good dvd!
Thoros dies first - oh no, now we don't have a battle res
Someone(s) else goes down, likely Jorah/Gendry
Then the shocker, Jon is killed...
But the (non-bookreading) audience gets the psych out and Berric does his best Stoneheart and brings Jon back and we get the twice resurrected reluctant king
And then the survivors bug out, possibly without an undead and Jon has to explain to Dany that Jorah is dead, slowing the slow burn even more.
Thank you for this phrase
It at least crossed my mind.
Political marriage, keeping the Vale tied to the North, keep Littlefinger under control: marry him to Arya. Give me one more scene where Littlefinger knows he's losing control of his plans and demonstrate Arya's cold-bloodedness to him, and I'll buy into that idea.
Nah, gotta be just another wacky idea, right?