The Space Sim Megathread | STAR WARS SPACE SIM! "Squadrons"

12728293032

Posts

  • TubeTube Administrator, ClubPA admin
    I guess I don't see why these ships wouldn't have decent bridge capacity?

    Hobnail wrote: »
    This forum has taken everything from me
    This hurts but I deserve it

  • DarmakDarmak RAGE vympyvvhyc vyctyvyRegistered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I guess I don't see why these ships wouldn't have decent bridge capacity?

    Because people love being entombed in a steel casket?

    6RUApv3.png
  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    If it's a bridge I feel like it needs one of these:

    143_1_e639f58b-af22-45d9-aa2d-ec750f6a3a4c.jpg?v=1571709810

    AxenMostly HarmlessElvenshae
  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited June 25
    Synthesis wrote: »
    X-Wing vs TIE Fighter was probably all competitive factor, considering it didn't have an actual story-driven campaign until Balance of Power came out, unlike this.

    I'd disagree, considering it was the one I played as a kid and I didn't even have an internet connection. It had missions/campaigns before balance of power they just weren't connected into any kind of cohesive storyline. They we're basically scenarios.

    Semi-related: the sequel to Alphabet Squadron, Shadow Fall is out as of 2 days ago and alongside giving more backstory on the setting it mentions Vanguard more than once and basically pinpoints exactly when the game takes place. It might be a good idea to pick it up if you want to know as much as possible about Squadrons. It's also just a great book in its own right that reminds me a lot of Rogue Squadron.

    Amazon link:

    https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Fall-Star-Wars-Alphabet/dp/1984820044/

    Although you might want to read the first book before you get into that. It also offers a lot of information on the setting and Vanguard Squadron.

    Handsome Costanza on
    Nintendo Switch friend code: 7305-5583-0420. Add me!
    Resident 8bitdo expert.
    Resident hybrid/flap cover expert.
  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    If it's a bridge I feel like it needs one of these:

    143_1_e639f58b-af22-45d9-aa2d-ec750f6a3a4c.jpg?v=1571709810

    You're not wrong.

    5EOHhA2.jpg

    A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
    italianranmaOrcaApogeeSynthesisJazzSyngyneFencingsaxElvenshaeStormwatcher
  • BigityBigity Lubbock, TXRegistered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    I guess I don't see why these ships wouldn't have decent bridge capacity?

    For most of the ships, bridges make a lot of sense really. The small ones...I dunno. They are all pretty massive once you get a reference for size compared to one of the SLFs I guess.

    76561198017303226.png
  • yossarian_livesyossarian_lives Registered User regular
    If you’re going to pretend space is an ocean you might as well go all in, including sailor cosplay.

    "I see everything twice!"


    OrcaElvenshae
  • NebulousQNebulousQ Registered User regular
    I seem to recall one of the cockpits having something that looked like a bed in it when you looked to the right. I can't find any pictures that corroborate this though, so maybe I am misremembering.

  • AxenAxen My avatar is Excalibur. Yes, the sword.Registered User regular
    If you’re going to pretend space is an ocean you might as well go all in, including sailor cosplay.

    I'm down for a Spelljammer game.

    A Capellan's favorite sheath for any blade is your back.
    OrcaDarmakFleebElvenshaeMoridin889
  • SyngyneSyngyne Registered User regular
    Axen wrote: »
    If you’re going to pretend space is an ocean you might as well go all in, including sailor cosplay.

    I'm down for a Spelljammer game.

    you're in luck

    5gsowHm.png
    BasilFleebElvenshae
  • GoumindongGoumindong Registered User regular
    x4 or Elite Dangerous?

    wbBv3fj.png
  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    edited June 27
    The shopkeeper portraits in that Spelljammer game have lots of "low budget convention cosplay" energy.

    Commander Zoom on
    steam_sig.png
    Steam, Warframe: Megajoule
    BasilElvenshae
  • FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Orca wrote: »
    If it's a bridge I feel like it needs one of these:

    143_1_e639f58b-af22-45d9-aa2d-ec750f6a3a4c.jpg?v=1571709810

    Drivin' me nuts etc etc

    torchlight-sig-80.jpg
    OrcaStrikorDarmakHeirstopgapElvenshae
  • Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Arrrr.

    steam_sig.png
    Steam, Warframe: Megajoule
    DarmakElvenshae
  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Found this last night:
    https://whitemagic.github.io/JoystickGremlin/interface/

    Essentially it's a program for programming sticks. The neat thing is it uses vjoy to make a virtual stick and programs that. Stick and throttle from different places? Game won't recognize multiple devices? No problem.

    Just beware that the UI for this is practically non-existent and its a huge pain in the ass to get it to work properly. If you have a Thrustmaster the TARGET software does the exact same thing and is much more user friendly.

    Nintendo Switch friend code: 7305-5583-0420. Add me!
    Resident 8bitdo expert.
    Resident hybrid/flap cover expert.
    Elvenshae
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    X-Wing vs TIE Fighter was probably all competitive factor, considering it didn't have an actual story-driven campaign until Balance of Power came out, unlike this.

    I'd disagree, considering it was the one I played as a kid and I didn't even have an internet connection. It had missions/campaigns before balance of power they just weren't connected into any kind of cohesive storyline. They we're basically scenarios.

    Yeah, that's kind of the point. For the sake of certainty, I started up the GOG edition--every single player mission has the same multiplayer pre-mission setup options (along with the inclusion of difficulty...which just coincides with the AI difficulty you'd find for wingmen in multiplayer). The single player missions (strung together into a "operation/campaign" set if so desired) are basically asymmetrical versions of the multiplayer engagements, or even direct copies. It was absolutely intended as a multiplayer-focused competitive version of the earlier to games (which didn't launch with multiplayer), but considering how many people were actually online and playing video games (in the days before MSN Gaming Zone, much less Steam), they created a mission set that basically works like "offline" matches with bots today. Balance of Power was the actual return to a singleplayer campaign.

    Orca wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote:
    Isn't "Your sarcasm makes me wet," the highest compliment an Abh can pay a human?

    Only if said Abh is a member of the nobility.
    Commander ZoomBigityElvenshae
  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    So I figured if I have to get above Mostly Harmless to get out of the starting area, ok, let's go kill some fools. So I reinforce the hull, strip out the mining lasers and add two beam lasers and two pulse lasers. Set up some firing groups, and head out to the nav beacon. Only to find that I can't actually scan the beacon for some reason. And that I have to have all of the lasers on mouse 1 for them all to work. So I have questions.

    1. If I have my beam lasers on mouse 1, my pulse lasers on mouse 2, why is the ship telling me I have to hit "M" to use that option (mouse 2)
    2. Other half of question 1. Why are my scanners and weapons interfering with each other. Wouldn't switching from weapons to scanners just swap out what is on mouse 1 and mouse 2?
    3. How do I set it up correctly so I can scan for pirates / bounties so I don't kill the wrong people and get killed by the space stations.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    So I figured if I have to get above Mostly Harmless to get out of the starting area, ok, let's go kill some fools. So I reinforce the hull, strip out the mining lasers and add two beam lasers and two pulse lasers. Set up some firing groups, and head out to the nav beacon. Only to find that I can't actually scan the beacon for some reason. And that I have to have all of the lasers on mouse 1 for them all to work. So I have questions.

    1. If I have my beam lasers on mouse 1, my pulse lasers on mouse 2, why is the ship telling me I have to hit "M" to use that option (mouse 2)
    2. Other half of question 1. Why are my scanners and weapons interfering with each other. Wouldn't switching from weapons to scanners just swap out what is on mouse 1 and mouse 2?
    3. How do I set it up correctly so I can scan for pirates / bounties so I don't kill the wrong people and get killed by the space stations.

    1) "M" is the default toggle key to switch between Analysis and Combat modes. If the game is telling you to switch modes, it means you might have a scanner item in that fire group (or, if you're in Analysis mode, it'll just make it so you can't fire any offensive weapon)
    2) Sadly, fire groups are Analysis/Combat mode agnostic. By this I mean it won't separate the fire groups based on which mode you're in...you'll have to set up separate fire groups yourself
    3) You just need to target a ship and wait for the target info to fill out. If it says "Wanted" you're safe to engage. If it says "Clean," you'll accrue a bounty and become "Wanted" until you either pay off the bounty or wait it out in a different system. To bolster the bounties you get, you can mount a Kill-Warrant Scanner and use that on a ship that is already "Wanted" to see what other warrants are attached to the ship. Thankfully, a KWS can be used while in Combat mode

    | Origin/R*SC: Ein7919 | Battle.net: Erlkonig#1448 | XBL: Lexicanum | Steam: Der Erlkönig (the umlaut is important) |
    Zerocz
  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    No system in the starter area sells a kill warrant scanner, so just targeting a ship will scan it? About how far away do you reasonably have to be?

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    No system in the starter area sells a kill warrant scanner, so just targeting a ship will scan it? About how far away do you reasonably have to be?

    This seems bizarre to me, because a KWS was the very first thing I bought as soon as I loaded into the game on Xbox, PS4, and PC (granted, I came in right around when Horizons first came available...so things might have changed since then), and is part of the reason how I got my butt into a decently kitted out Viper Mk3 after one or two hours in a High-RES.

    Otherwise, you just have to be able to lock onto a target and keep it in the front 45-degree cone in front of your ship for a few seconds. So, the range is whatever your sensors are capable of locking onto a target.

    | Origin/R*SC: Ein7919 | Battle.net: Erlkonig#1448 | XBL: Lexicanum | Steam: Der Erlkönig (the umlaut is important) |
    Moridin889
  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    https://eddb.io/faction/76760

    This is the starter area.

  • ErlkönigErlkönig Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    https://eddb.io/faction/76760

    This is the starter area.

    A starter area. Turns out, there are multiple places you can start from. Really surprised none of the stations in your system have a KWS. Oh well, guess you'll just be getting basic bounties until you eventually make your way to either LSE 239, HR 8061, or AY Indi.

    | Origin/R*SC: Ein7919 | Battle.net: Erlkonig#1448 | XBL: Lexicanum | Steam: Der Erlkönig (the umlaut is important) |
  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Eh, that's fine. I only need to get to mostly harmless to get the mission to leave the starter area. Then it's saving up for an Asp Explorer and being out in the middle of nowhere for a while. Hell,I've only played like 6 hours total and I already have almost a million credits plus a maxed out for the area Cobra mkIII, so I can't imagine it'll take all that long.

  • Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    Alliance is waaaaay harder with the XWAU upgrade that boosts the amount of lasers that can be on screen at a time. I can't even get near frigates without being annihilated along with my entire squadron.

    Nintendo Switch friend code: 7305-5583-0420. Add me!
    Resident 8bitdo expert.
    Resident hybrid/flap cover expert.
    StrikorSir CarcassElvenshaeHeirStormwatcherSynthesisApogee
  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Lol, I decided that even though I didn't have the requirements for the "explore the galaxy" mission, I'd do it anyway. And it worked! Got my 100Gs and now I have 40 tons of cargo space and a kill warrant scanner. Not that I really plan on bounty hunting or anything. Basically just going to grind out 7 mill with transport missions and get an Asp, then I'm out! See you at Colonia!

    ZeroczCommander ZoomSyngyneBasilElvenshaeApogee
  • SyngyneSyngyne Registered User regular
    Krieghund wrote: »
    Lol, I decided that even though I didn't have the requirements for the "explore the galaxy" mission, I'd do it anyway. And it worked! Got my 100Gs and now I have 40 tons of cargo space and a kill warrant scanner. Not that I really plan on bounty hunting or anything. Basically just going to grind out 7 mill with transport missions and get an Asp, then I'm out! See you at Colonia!

    At the rate I am crawling you will probably get to Colonia before I reach Sag A*

    5gsowHm.png
  • KrieghundKrieghund Registered User regular
    Well, looking at the map, I don't know how anyone gets there. It just looks like a wall of stars, lol. But, good luck to you!

  • manwiththemachinegunmanwiththemachinegun METAL GEAR?! Registered User regular
    The great work continues:

    Sir CarcassOrcaElvenshaeBasilIanatorCommander ZoomApogee
  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    I still find it amusing that the first Freespace was marketed as a Descent-adjacent title for...the sales boost? I think the studios within Parallax had already begun to split by that point?

    Orca wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote:
    Isn't "Your sarcasm makes me wet," the highest compliment an Abh can pay a human?

    Only if said Abh is a member of the nobility.
    OrcamanwiththemachinegunBasilCommander ZoomApogee
  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I still find it amusing that the first Freespace was marketed as a Descent-adjacent title for...the sales boost? I think the studios within Parallax had already begun to split by that point?

    Hell, that's why I never checked them out until they were budget releases. I didn't really care for Descent, and after seeing the box for the first one, I just assumed it was more of the same and associated Freespace with Descent. Later when I found out they were honest to goodness space sims ala Wing Commander, it blew my mind.

    Basil
  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    edited June 30
    Synthesis wrote: »
    I still find it amusing that the first Freespace was marketed as a Descent-adjacent title for...the sales boost? I think the studios within Parallax had already begun to split by that point?

    Hell, that's why I never checked them out until they were budget releases. I didn't really care for Descent, and after seeing the box for the first one, I just assumed it was more of the same and associated Freespace with Descent. Later when I found out they were honest to goodness space sims ala Wing Commander, it blew my mind.

    Freespace 2 has probably one of the worst sales to quality ratios in gaming history. 26,983 sales the year it was released. That's it. Marketing...did not help.

    Phoenix-D on
    ElvenshaeOrcaSir CarcassCommander ZoommanwiththemachinegunApogee
  • OrcaOrca Registered User regular
    Yeah, I picked FS2 out of the bargain bin and thought it was the greatest thing since sliced bread.

    Not that I had the money at the time to buy it full price, but damn that was one hell of a game.

    Strikor
  • OrogogusOrogogus San DiegoRegistered User regular
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    Marketing...did not help.

    People say this, but it's not super clear to me what people were expecting in 1999. Games weren't being advertised on TV or in movie trailers back then. But they had extravagant 3 page pullout ads (p69-71) in gaming magazines, a demo for the pack-in CDs, previews talking about the new beam weapons, and a slew of glowing reviews, they had a Ship of the Week feature on... Adrenaline Vault? Online Gaming Review? One of the significant gaming sites back then, anyway. The box cover art stood out nicely. I don't know what kind of marketing push people think would have turned things around. To me it was advertised the same as anything else.

  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    I think that I also passed on the series because of the Descent prefix. Only many years later did I discover it again.

    Basil on
    9KmX8eN.jpg
  • JazzJazz Fuck cancer. Un-UKRegistered User regular
    Man, there's so many '90s game ads that were printed in (or on - back covers are hard to hide) mainstream game mags that would probably get me infracted if I posted them here.

    Just GIS "Jo Guest Battlecruiser", for example, but for God's sake don't do it at work. Actually Battlecruiser 3000AD had a whole slew of them, but hers was the best known. I even just stumbled on one for the Game Boy Pocket, of all things, as well.

  • SynthesisSynthesis Honda Today! Registered User regular
    I'm part of the "Love Descent, don't care about Freespace" crowd. Not to disparage the actual game itself, but I wasn't a huge Wing Commander fan either--it was the modding scene I followed Freespace for.

    Orca wrote: »
    Synthesis wrote:
    Isn't "Your sarcasm makes me wet," the highest compliment an Abh can pay a human?

    Only if said Abh is a member of the nobility.
  • Sir CarcassSir Carcass I have been shown the end of my world Round Rock, TXRegistered User regular
    Jazz wrote: »
    Just GIS "Jo Guest Battlecruiser", for example, but for God's sake don't do it at work.

    Of all of the things for her to want....

    AiserouJazzOrcamanwiththemachinegunElvenshaeZeroczStrikor
  • ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    Jazz wrote: »
    Just GIS "Jo Guest Battlecruiser", for example, but for God's sake don't do it at work.

    Of all of the things for her to want....

    The suggested Google search of 'Jo Guest - English glamour model' pulls up a search for "jo guest fibromyalgia," which is probably a preferable association.

    Now, obviously, I'm not asserting that fibromyalgia is preferable to playing Battlecruiser, because I don't know what it's like to have fibromyalgia so I really couldn't say.

    However, I also don't know what it's like to play Battlecruiser; so it would be presumptuous of me to conclude that it wasn't.

    ArbitraryDescriptor on
    Sir CarcassOrcaElvenshae
  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    Goumindong wrote: »
    x4 or Elite Dangerous?

    Depends.

    Do you want a Space Flight Sim (Elite) or a Space Flight Sim (X4)?

    Elite is all about exploring and dogfighting across a galaxy.

    X4 is about having a fully realized economy where (almost) everything is used for something and possessing the tools to manipulate it, or sabotage it, or improve it, or just destroy it and replace it all with your own personal stations and fleets of civilian and military ships manned and captained by people who work for you.

    Foefaller on
    steam_sig.png
    ElvenshaeOrcaZerocz
  • BasilBasil Registered User regular
    edited July 1
    We're talking Space Trucking Sim vs Space Supply Chain Management Sim.

    Basil on
    9KmX8eN.jpg
    ArbitraryDescriptorFiatilElvenshaeOrcaCommander ZoomZeroczMoridin889Heir
Sign In or Register to comment.