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Fighting Games Part 423: Now is the winter of our discount Xrd

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  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    Do you think they feel Guilty about naming it the Gear system?

    Wearingglasses
  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    what gear could superman have

    hes immortal and he shoots lasers out of his eyes

    maybe his gear is he just carries around a sunlamp with him?

  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    l_g wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    i generally prefer slower characters because my fingers are stupid, i do like Sol but the character guide said "Aggressive style" and that's not me

    Even the less aggressive characters that would superficially be thought of as passive zoners have to operate in a slightly different mindset in the world of GG. A good example is that Faust has many of the properties associated with poking/zoning characters (lots of long normals, lack of any real reversals, relatively slow aerial movement, etc.), but it is often against his interests to just sit back and wait for the enemy to come to him. If he does that, it actually gives his opponents a chance to set up abilities and then take a run at him. Instead, he has to use his big normals to box his opponents in as well as smack them out of their attempts to set up projectiles or whatever else that would shield their approach. Reading and reacting to your opponent's approach is a part of his game, but suppressing your opponent's action by aggressively reaching in to their space as well as pre-emptively shutting down their jumps is an even bigger part.

    Faust is also highly recommended for beginners because he has some of the lowest execution requirements of any character in GG, and this has been true for over a decade. However, because of his relatively slower normals and lack of any real reversal or fully invincible move, there are a number of matchups where he has to pay attention or else his opponent gets in on him for free... and that usually spells doom because he has an especially large hitbox when being juggled to reward his opponent for getting in on him.
    Cantido wrote: »
    Anyone on playing Xrd on a stick without crushing your fingers? :(

    You gotta hit a lot of buttons in GG. Some characters are worse than others in this regard. Even the big slow grappler, Potemkin, needs to from time to time.

    I like to think of a very simple but surprisingly easy to forget thing which a piano teacher once told me:
    "Faster, not louder!"

    There's a tendency to use more "force" when what we want is more speed. To a certain physical extent this is true (force = mass * acceleration), but in terms of buttons it means we do things like striking the button with more force as well as maintaining that force on the buttons for longer. This puts more stress on your fingers and the joints of your fingers. You don't need to hit buttons like you're going to push your fingers through the joystick box. You just need to push the button and then lift your finger/thumb off of it, but this is a pretty easy thing to forget when things get heated!

    I'm not even talking about complex characters.

    I cannot be ready to press the four major buttons while reaching my pinky out for the Dust button. It is physically painful to Gear on a stick.
    Knob wrote: »
    I didn't know anything about raven at all

    Hes cool as Fuuuuuuck


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh1onX6fBYQ

    The original layout for the buttons as others have mentioned is
    K S HS
    P - D

    Which had the intention of vaguely going up in strength going clockwise (P being the "lightest" button and D being the "heaviest"). Though all characters have unique normal chains, virtually every character can chain from P-K-S-HS-D in that order. Of course as you mention, it feels weird to need to reach for D with your pinky!

    A slightly modified layout which eliminates reliance on your pinky is:
    K S HS
    P D -

    This lets you use your thumb for the P and D buttons. But really, any layout can work as long as you don't have that gap in the middle of the bottom row.

    To take the point further, my friends who played Johnny and Eddie in older versions on pad all used an entirely unique button setup for those characters out of their need to be able to hold some buttons while pressing others.

    Cole's Law: "Thinly sliced cabbage."
  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    isn't netherrealm already always on fire?

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    isn't netherrealm already always on fire?

    You're thinking of Capcom.

    I predict Injustice 2 will be a blast to play single player and will last about as long as the first one did competitively.

    Dyvim TvarTHESPOOKYBlue map
  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    Knob wrote: »
    SUPERGIRL! GUYVER ARMOR! WOOOOOO




    I use

    P K D
    S H

    for GG. I'm a rebel. I'm balls out.

    Get out

    I play KoF like

    AB
    CD

    That's why

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    isn't netherrealm already always on fire?

    You're thinking of Capcom.

    I predict Injustice 2 will be a blast to play single player and will last about as long as the first one did competitively.

    (It was a hell joke)

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    Knob
  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel anime af When's KoFRegistered User regular
    Knob wrote: »
    Knob wrote: »
    SUPERGIRL! GUYVER ARMOR! WOOOOOO




    I use

    P K D
    S H

    for GG. I'm a rebel. I'm balls out.

    Get out

    I play KoF like

    AB
    CD

    That's why

    On kof i play

    AC
    BD

    because kicks and punches go together.

    But im basically screwed on every snk cab ever since its

    BCD
    A

    basically i just want to adapt to whatever the default is.

    Twitter: Folken_fgc Steam: folken_ XBL: flashg03 PSN: folken_PA SFV: folken_
    Dyvim Tvar wrote: »
    Characters I hate:

    Everybody @Folken Fanel plays as.
  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    isn't netherrealm already always on fire?

    You're thinking of Capcom.

    I predict Injustice 2 will be a blast to play single player and will last about as long as the first one did competitively.

    (It was a hell joke)

    Ah. I get it now.

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    (this is a hell joke, too)

    chamberlain on
  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    Injustice had a pretty good half life at offline locals, honestly. Much longer than it did on Twitch.

    I'm kinda over being competitive in fighting games and going to tournaments and trying my best so the idea of a super stupid DC comics fighter that is somewhat balanced and has a bunch of fun bells and whistles is exactly my cup of tea.

    Shit, it's a whole pitcher of my tea.

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    i do

    P K S
    H D

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  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    K S H
    P D

    and

    B C D
    A

    everything else is trash because you can't sit down at any arcade cab and start whooping ass

    Folken FanelTHESPOOKY
  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    All of the SNK cabs I ever sat down at had the ABCD layout. Usually no lower buttons.

  • WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    ones I see are usually astro city (layout I mentioned)

    I can do ABCD also because you just kinda transpose the bottom button up, it's the whole
    AB
    CD
    that trips me up

  • blaze_zeroblaze_zero Registered User regular
    The conclusion is that Knob is a button monster.

    WaltKwoaruFig-DDyvim Tvar
  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    Being super picky and strange about my preferred layout really helps draw attention away from the fact that in game I just open my hand as big and flat as it will go and hammer it somewhere in the middle as fast as I can

    Dyvim Tvar
  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Thank you for the heads up on control schemes. I'll give them a shot after I finish up my paper.

    I must be the only wierdo who misses English voices. Only Sol and Venom sounded like shit in English, and Sin was fantastic.

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  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    Where are you people buying Revelator? I cannot find a copy and I pre-ordered one.

  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    edited June 2016
    videogamesplus.ca has been my haven since amazon.ca betrayed me

    fRAWRst on
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  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    Psn

    Fuck dealing with sold out copies and dipshit employees

    Jasconiustemplewulf
  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel anime af When's KoFRegistered User regular
    Knob wrote: »
    Psn

    Fuck dealing with sold out copies and dipshit employees

    But... my shelf! It must be filled with cool boxes and artwork!

    Twitter: Folken_fgc Steam: folken_ XBL: flashg03 PSN: folken_PA SFV: folken_
    Dyvim Tvar wrote: »
    Characters I hate:

    Everybody @Folken Fanel plays as.
  • chamberlainchamberlain Registered User regular
    Knob wrote: »
    Psn

    Fuck dealing with sold out copies and dipshit employees

    But... my shelf! It must be filled with cool boxes and artwork!

    Not sure if serious, but yes, exactly. :)

  • Folken FanelFolken Fanel anime af When's KoFRegistered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Knob wrote: »
    Psn

    Fuck dealing with sold out copies and dipshit employees

    But... my shelf! It must be filled with cool boxes and artwork!

    Not sure if serious, but yes, exactly. :)

    Dead serious.

    Its why I still buy cds.

    CDs!

    Folken Fanel on
    Twitter: Folken_fgc Steam: folken_ XBL: flashg03 PSN: folken_PA SFV: folken_
    Dyvim Tvar wrote: »
    Characters I hate:

    Everybody @Folken Fanel plays as.
  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    Knob wrote: »
    Psn

    Fuck dealing with sold out copies and dipshit employees

    But... my shelf! It must be filled with cool boxes and artwork!

    Fuck your shelf

    templewulf
  • THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY papa! Registered User regular

    hahahahaha is the gimmick for I2 really

    Tron mode?

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    I finished Story Mode, it was delightful. From Overture and beyond, Sol gradually went from a one-note character that I hated, to my favorite character. In -Sign-, I was worried about the final villain, but they went in a different direction that I enjoyed very much.

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  • FaranguFarangu I am a beardy man With a beardy planRegistered User regular
    I may be around Revelator tonight, seeing if any of the new characters are for me / relearning just how the hell GG works

  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    I'm getting on gg if anyone wants to beat on a garbage player who is learning a new dude


    Psn knobbonk

  • DragkoniasDragkonias That Guy Who Does Stuff You Know, There. Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    isn't netherrealm already always on fire?

    You're thinking of Capcom.

    I predict Injustice 2 will be a blast to play single player and will last about as long as the first one did competitively.

    Didn't folks play Injustice competitively until MKX came out?

    It even kept decent numbers throughout.

    Dragkonias on
  • DeMoNDeMoN twitch.tv/toxic_cizzle Registered User regular
    Yeah, people seem to play a netherrealm game competitively until the new netherrealm game comes out then they all hop over to that

    Steam id : Toxic Cizzle
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  • DaebunzDaebunz Registered User regular
    now I have an excuse to bug ed boon nonstop on twitter again with the same question I had for injustice 1

    "where's the rainbow raider"

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  • Blue mapBlue map Hello darkness, my old friend. Registered User regular
    I haven't been keeping up with the scene, how's MKX doing in terms of stream/tournament turnout anyway?

    My Steam profile thing: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Blue_map/ Battlenet: BlueMap#1493
  • l_gl_g Registered User regular
    Cantido wrote: »
    I finished Story Mode, it was delightful. From Overture and beyond, Sol gradually went from a one-note character that I hated, to my favorite character. In -Sign-, I was worried about the final villain, but they went in a different direction that I enjoyed very much.

    Sol becoming a cranky middle-aged uncle to Ky's kid is the best thing that ever happened to his character.
    I just wish that Sol being nearly two CENTURIES old was expressed a little more.

    I have to wonder if one of the things Sol does (grabbing a rocket and riding it to the Cradle) was partly inspired by ArcSys having done a Contra game just a few years earlier.

    Faust probably had the best-animated moment of the whole thing Story mode, though.

    Cole's Law: "Thinly sliced cabbage."
  • fRAWRstfRAWRst The Seas Call The Mad AnswerRegistered User regular
    edited June 2016
    ggs @Knob

    still cant figure out player matches

    i managed to land a couple double vapor thrust loops so im pretty happy

    my zato is pretty fraudulent

    raven meaty fireball mixups are real

    fRAWRst on
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    Knob
  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    Amazing Goddam games, frawrst. I mostly forgot how to block Eddie haha


    Fuck, revelator is good

    fRAWRst
  • FaranguFarangu I am a beardy man With a beardy planRegistered User regular
    I think I like Jam? Robo-Gouken is too weird, Johnny is a maybe, and I honestly haven't messed with Raven or Jack-o yet.

    Who else is new? I still see one or two padlocks on screen.

  • KnobKnob TURN THE BEAT BACK InternetModerator mod
    Dizzy is coming later as dlc

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Jack-o looks extremely fun

    who is robo-gouken and/or not gouken and/or non-union gouken counterpart

    latest?cb=20130811203212

  • ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
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    Robo-gouken = Kum Haehyun

    Character looks like SF4's Gouken, and since it's actually a robot suit being piloted by a girl (because anime), robo-gouken it is.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    huh, is that some sort of unlockable character? I didn't see him in my list

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