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Voltron: Legendary Defender - Do ya like (Robot) Cats?

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    IblisIblis Registered User regular
    Watched through season 3 now...
    I assume that ship Lotor built is going to be painted up like a skull and used to form Lo-tron. Which I am all about.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    I'm curious
    If we are ever going to see something that really matches up to Voltron except whatever Lotor makes from the meteor. Feels like the team is only ever really challenged because they can't form Voltron. Even when attacked by an entire Navy's worth of ships they pretty much wrecked. This isn't a complaint. So far they've done a good job of creating stakes and drama without anything being able to challenge Voltron. Its just unexpected.

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    I'm curious
    If we are ever going to see something that really matches up to Voltron except whatever Lotor makes from the meteor. Feels like the team is only ever really challenged because they can't form Voltron. Even when attacked by an entire Navy's worth of ships they pretty much wrecked. This isn't a complaint. So far they've done a good job of creating stakes and drama without anything being able to challenge Voltron. Its just unexpected.
    Voltron has been consistently challenged and smashed around by Haggar's Robeasts. Standard Galra seem to stand basically no chance, which is good.

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    nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    I'm curious
    If we are ever going to see something that really matches up to Voltron except whatever Lotor makes from the meteor. Feels like the team is only ever really challenged because they can't form Voltron. Even when attacked by an entire Navy's worth of ships they pretty much wrecked. This isn't a complaint. So far they've done a good job of creating stakes and drama without anything being able to challenge Voltron. Its just unexpected.
    Voltron has been consistently challenged and smashed around by Haggar's Robeasts. Standard Galra seem to stand basically no chance, which is good.

    Have they? I may be misremembering
    My recollection is the team always having team issues that kept them from working together and after solving it nothing could really stand against them. The fact that the only time Voltron really fights anything these season was them vs an armada and pretty much a nonthreat may be clouding my memory.

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Robeasts usually have the upper hand until someone unlocks a new weapon or ability

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    I'm curious
    If we are ever going to see something that really matches up to Voltron except whatever Lotor makes from the meteor. Feels like the team is only ever really challenged because they can't form Voltron. Even when attacked by an entire Navy's worth of ships they pretty much wrecked. This isn't a complaint. So far they've done a good job of creating stakes and drama without anything being able to challenge Voltron. Its just unexpected.
    Voltron has been consistently challenged and smashed around by Haggar's Robeasts. Standard Galra seem to stand basically no chance, which is good.

    Have they? I may be misremembering
    My recollection is the team always having team issues that kept them from working together and after solving it nothing could really stand against them. The fact that the only time Voltron really fights anything these season was them vs an armada and pretty much a nonthreat may be clouding my memory.
    The Cyclops robeast in season 1 basically wrecked Voltron and they couldn't kill it until the planet took it out for them, the vacuum-mouth beast at the start of season 2 was similarly shitkicking them until the blade of marmora dude sacrificed himself.
    The others have all given them a pretty hard time, and Zarkon in his armor almost killed them until Shiro got Blazing Sword working.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    There was also
    the Robeast that kicked the shit out of them until Shiro figured out it's pattern based on his Gladiator stuff.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Robeasts have consistently managed to knock them around, but there's been little sign that they were in imminent danger of losing, because Voltron's just that tough.
    It's like fighting a new boss in a video game; you don't know their attacks, you don't know their weak points, but you do have tons and tons of health.
    then it's just a matter of holding out until you realise that they're left open after their AoE attack, and you've won.

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    Season 3
    Voltron barely showed up this season.
    That was a kinda weird.

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    DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    Robeasts have consistently managed to knock them around, but there's been little sign that they were in imminent danger of losing, because Voltron's just that tough.
    It's like fighting a new boss in a video game; you don't know their attacks, you don't know their weak points, but you do have tons and tons of health.
    then it's just a matter of holding out until you realise that they're left open after their AoE attack, and you've won.

    They played this well by usually having multiple other people that they have to save. So, even if Voltron could survive, the castle, the Balmorans, the village, ect ect wouldn't survive if they fail.

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    Robeasts have consistently managed to knock them around, but there's been little sign that they were in imminent danger of losing, because Voltron's just that tough.
    It's like fighting a new boss in a video game; you don't know their attacks, you don't know their weak points, but you do have tons and tons of health.
    then it's just a matter of holding out until you realise that they're left open after their AoE attack, and you've won.

    The worst that's happened to any Lion or Voltron so far is powering down. They might be actually literally indestructible.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    klemming wrote: »
    Robeasts have consistently managed to knock them around, but there's been little sign that they were in imminent danger of losing, because Voltron's just that tough.
    It's like fighting a new boss in a video game; you don't know their attacks, you don't know their weak points, but you do have tons and tons of health.
    then it's just a matter of holding out until you realise that they're left open after their AoE attack, and you've won.

    The worst that's happened to any Lion or Voltron so far is powering down. They might be actually literally indestructible.

    This....might actually be the case.

    It IS made out of something that

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    is technically a trans-dimensional material.

    Can't blow up something that exists in literally every possible dimension.

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    There's some kind of feedback mechanism in place, the Paladins definitely feel threatened when they're under fire, and Zarkon's Dark Quintessence felt like it was even a level beyond that.

    But despite being machines that can be altered and interface with other non-voltron tech(thanks Pidge!), we never see any kind of physical damage on the Lions and no mention is ever made of needing to repair them after a tough battle.

    I dunno if the show will call attention to it, but I'm pretty firm on the theory.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    The paint always looks worn and chipped even when they were brand new.

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    The paint always looks worn and chipped even when they were brand new.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    In season one the Lions looked like they might be knocked out permanently by basic weaponry.

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    SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Weird, it kind of looks like there's a lack of Black Lion outside of the Voltron-specific shots.

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    New season up.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    New season up.

    Fucking what

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell YEAH

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    S4e2: Pidge Episode! Pidge is great you guys

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Rainfall wrote: »
    New season up.

    Fucking what

    The shorter seasons allow for more frequent releases!

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    JimothyJimothy Not in front of the fox he's with the owlRegistered User regular
    Ep 4
    There is a Yeerk in this episode

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    darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    Ep 4
    They did it.

    Those bastards did it.

    They've gone full Sentai!

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Lotor

    is

    such a good villain

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Six episodes is not enough.
    The Coalition is a real deal now, which is cool. Lotor is up to shit now, also cool. Pidge's episode made me cry twice, and I'm real glad Matt survived and that he doesn't overshadow Pidge at all.

    It doesn't feel as dramatic as last season, though. Lots of buildup with no real payoffs.

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    shergakshergak Registered User regular
    Bi Boh bi is the best part of this season and it's no contest. Odd how Keith seems to be completely sidelined.

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    RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    shergak wrote: »
    Bi Boh bi is the best part of this season and it's no contest. Odd how Keith seems to be completely sidelined.

    I think with Keith they'll bring him back once
    Shiro falls prey to whatever the hell they were setting up in season 3

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    WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    Season spoilers
    Narti :(

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    boyfriend and I started watching this about a month ago and were pretty sad when season 3 ended so quickly, but then super happy to find out the next chunk was out so soon.

    This show is real good. I have really foggy memories of the original from when I was a kid so it was interesting coming into something with some strong history really fresh.

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    Pidge's episode was easily the most emotional I've got in the show. the fakeout at the graveyard was foreshadowed to heck but I got caught up by the sheer number of graves and how tragic that was.

    I hope we get to see more of Keith in the future, I've really enjoyed how well he and Shiro play off each other. Their little fairwell handshake + hug was great.

    I'm pretty keen to see just what Lotor is planning at this point. Will he go full Zuko and convert or does he still have some deep plan going on here. Just what IS his end goal, anyway!

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    OldSlackerOldSlacker Registered User regular

    Anzekay wrote: »
    boyfriend and I started watching this about a month ago and were pretty sad when season 3 ended so quickly, but then super happy to find out the next chunk was out so soon.

    This show is real good. I have really foggy memories of the original from when I was a kid so it was interesting coming into something with some strong history really fresh.

    season 4 spoilers
    Pidge's episode was easily the most emotional I've got in the show. the fakeout at the graveyard was foreshadowed to heck but I got caught up by the sheer number of graves and how tragic that was.

    I hope we get to see more of Keith in the future, I've really enjoyed how well he and Shiro play off each other. Their little fairwell handshake + hug was great.

    I'm pretty keen to see just what Lotor is planning at this point. Will he go full Zuko and convert or does he still have some deep plan going on here. Just what IS his end goal, anyway!
    "I help you take down my father and you support me in ruling the smaller Galra empire made of planets who actually want to remain in it."
    Yeah, basically Zuko. They will probably need all the help they can get to fight the alt-Alteans in the upcoming inevitable conflict.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Lotor hasn't actually done anything super villainous.

    He has been surprisingly level headed and reasonable for the son of a huge ass dick.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    which is why he's so good at being a villain

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    S4e2: Pidge Episode! Pidge is great you guys

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    ThroThro pgroome@penny-arcade.com Registered User regular
    Rainfall wrote: »
    S4e2: Pidge Episode! Pidge is great you guys

    DC =/= Tesla, Pidge and Bro, Tesla was AC. Continue to nerd out and be awesome though, I forgive you two.

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    WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    Lotor hasn't actually done anything super villainous.

    He has been surprisingly level headed and reasonable for the son of a huge ass dick.
    Straight up killing one of your most subordinates counts as villainous, though!

    A good/neutral guy would have restrained her, or knocked her out.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Lotor hasn't actually done anything super villainous.

    He has been surprisingly level headed and reasonable for the son of a huge ass dick.
    Straight up killing one of your most subordinates counts as villainous, though!

    A good/neutral guy would have restrained her, or knocked her out.
    ruthless pragmatism =\= villainous

    It was a split second decision to save himself and his crew. It's not like he was punishing his subordinates for failing him, he was trying to survive with his men.

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    WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    Lotor hasn't actually done anything super villainous.

    He has been surprisingly level headed and reasonable for the son of a huge ass dick.
    Straight up killing one of your most subordinates counts as villainous, though!

    A good/neutral guy would have restrained her, or knocked her out.
    ruthless pragmatism =\= villainous

    It was a split second decision to save himself and his crew. It's not like he was punishing his subordinates for failing him, he was trying to survive with his men.
    It's not like he was punishing his subordinates for failing him, he was trying to survive with his men.

    It's not as split second a time frame as you think. I truly believe that Lotor had shown enough skill that in the moments between realizing that Narti's been compromised and imminent death by Galra cruisers, he would have been able to subdue her without killing. That he immediately went for the kill just shows that he drops anyone working for him the moment they're not useful.

    I'm willing to admit, though, that maybe "villainy" isn't the word that would best describe Lotor's actions re:Narti. But just because he hasn't done any mustache twirling and maniacal gloating doesn't mean the show's not presenting him as a bad guy.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited October 2017
    Lotor hasn't actually done anything super villainous.

    He has been surprisingly level headed and reasonable for the son of a huge ass dick.
    Straight up killing one of your most subordinates counts as villainous, though!

    A good/neutral guy would have restrained her, or knocked her out.
    ruthless pragmatism =\= villainous

    It was a split second decision to save himself and his crew. It's not like he was punishing his subordinates for failing him, he was trying to survive with his men.
    It's not like he was punishing his subordinates for failing him, he was trying to survive with his men.

    It's not as split second a time frame as you think. I truly believe that Lotor had shown enough skill that in the moments between realizing that Narti's been compromised and imminent death by Galra cruisers, he would have been able to subdue her without killing. That he immediately went for the kill just shows that he drops anyone working for him the moment they're not useful.

    I'm willing to admit, though, that maybe "villainy" isn't the word that would best describe Lotor's actions re:Narti. But just because he hasn't done any mustache twirling and maniacal gloating doesn't mean the show's not presenting him as a bad guy.
    They were under attack by the entire Galra fleet, their whole plan was upturned, they had NO time to figure out a new plan, and it appeared one of the teammates was compromised.

    There wasn't time to figure out the most optimal solution.

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