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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    I still think one mod makes LFD fun

  • SirEtchwartsSirEtchwarts Great Power Great CostumesRegistered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    I'm surprised Battleborn hasn't already had a drastic shift in its pay model.

    Like forcibly installing it on people's computers then demanding back-payment, ransomware-style?

    Ah, so Gordon Ramsey DLC

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel Shell, Teeth, Eyes, Flame, Claws, Breath, Scales, FUN!Registered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    I'm surprised Battleborn hasn't already had a drastic shift in its pay model.

    Like forcibly installing it on people's computers then demanding back-payment, ransomware-style?

    Ah, so Gordon Ramsey DLC

    Ramseyware.

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  • SirEtchwartsSirEtchwarts Great Power Great CostumesRegistered User regular
    DRM

    Digital Ramsey Management

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel Shell, Teeth, Eyes, Flame, Claws, Breath, Scales, FUN!Registered User regular
    DRM

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    Ah yes, like the notorious SecuRAM(sey)

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    edited July 2016
    DeMoN wrote: »
    Hopefully next time their game won't be "just another Left 4 Dead with a new skin"

    Left 4 Dead was a better game with more content though

    They wish Evolve was Left 4 Dead

    And when the first Left 4 Dead hit, it was criticized for having too little content, and they churned out a sequel the following year

    Evolve's reception was people finally catching on, its lack of success was deserved

    Vow... Christ almighty, alright

    First of all, Left 4 Dead was a co-op game first and foremost, its asymmetrical multiplayer was secondary. It was patched in like a month after release. Evolve had no co-op, it existed purely as a multiplayer game playing against another human

    Second of all, Evolve is a 4v1 game, where Left 4 Dead was a 4v4 game. The two sides were asymetrical in gameplay, not in size. Evolve is both

    Third, and most importantly to this entire conversation, Turtle Rock didn't make Left 4 Dead 2. That was Valve, after acquiring the IP during the initial development of Left 4 Dead

    Like I'm not normally hostile to you, Vow, your absolutely baffling tastes aside I think you're a pretty smart guy

    But these two posts here feel like they fell out of a fuckin' GameFAQs thread

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    That actually just makes me think even less of Turtle Rock, though

    Because that just means they shipped two games with anemic content, and not Left 4 Dead 2 which apparently fixed that issue

    EDIT: So good on Valve, I guess, which is something I rarely say

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Yeah I think it's kind of nuts they looked at the criticism of l4d1 and said "whatll fix it is less players!"

    L4d1 most definitely was a purchase I regretted

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    edited July 2016
    I didn't regret my purchase of Left 4 Dead, because that game came out eight fuckin' years ago and standards were different then, plus it got plenty of post-release support

    Left 4 Dead 2 eventually made it completely obsolete though, so I guess I didn't have to buy it at all, but I also got to play it for like a year and a half before that came out so whatever

    But I knew from the moment they had fucking shoutcasts at E3 that Evolve was going to flop hard and fast. I just knew

    I guess I'll play it for free though, I dunno. The gameplay always looked sorta fun, it was everything surrounding it that seemed ill-considered

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    evolve was a game I wanted to be good real bad

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    evolve was a game I wanted to be good real bad

    On paper it sounds like a ton of fun

    I mean I played The Hidden, hunter vs prey is an idea has merit

    But it feels like they fucked up a ton of stuff in practice

    It makes me think of Brink, in a weird way

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  • Fig-DFig-D Registered User regular
    If Evolve was free I'd install it on Steam and then never launch it before deleting it a year later to free up disc space.

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  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    Fig-D wrote: »
    If Evolve was free I'd install it on Steam and then never launch it before deleting it a year later to free up disc space.

    Well now you can live that dream

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  • A Dabble Of TheloniusA Dabble Of Thelonius It has been a doozy of a dayRegistered User regular
    L4D is one one of the best steam purchases I ever made. So much fun was had.

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  • THESPOOKYTHESPOOKY im alucard Registered User regular
    Left 4 Dead 2 is the best game Valve has ever released

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  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    i wonder how many more failed esports have to happen before companies realize you don't get to just decide your game is an esport months or years before anyone even plays it

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  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    I'm one of the few that liked L4D1 a lot more than 2, but I agree that it had a content problem.

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

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  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Wonder if he and Vignocchi are forming a studio

  • OlivawOlivaw good name, isn't it? peach treesRegistered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Man

    This industry really feels like musical chairs sometimes

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  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. Registered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Man

    This industry really feels like musical chairs sometimes

    i mean the truth about most americans changing jobs like every two years because it's the best way to increase your income is as true for the gaming industry as everywhere else

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Man

    This industry really feels like musical chairs sometimes

    i mean the truth about most americans changing jobs like every two years because it's the best way to increase your income is as true for the gaming industry as everywhere else

    even more so, given the way dev cycles on games work

    congrats on spending 36 months toiling overtime on this game! it sold really well, fans love it! also everyone in production is getting laid off

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    Brolo wrote: »
    Olivaw wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Man

    This industry really feels like musical chairs sometimes

    i mean the truth about most americans changing jobs like every two years because it's the best way to increase your income is as true for the gaming industry as everywhere else

    even more so, given the way dev cycles on games work

    congrats on spending 36 months toiling overtime on this game! it sold really well, fans love it! also everyone in production is getting laid off

    although in boyes' case I think he was in sony's upper management which tends to not be part of the cullings
    I don't think I've heard of that kind of culling happening at sony in general either, they're a publisher rather than a developer

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  • DeMoNDeMoN Registered User regular
    Man I actually had no idea that there were complaints about Left 4 Dead's amount of content

    I was too busy playing the game like every day for a month with PA people. Get four people together in a game with mics and play through an expert campaign and that game was a blast.

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  • ProhassProhass Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    content has always been a nebulous qualifier for me. People complained about a lack of content in Titanfall and I played that weekly for like 2 years and loved it

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  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    DeMoN wrote: »
    Man I actually had no idea that there were complaints about Left 4 Dead's amount of content

    I was too busy playing the game like every day for a month with PA people. Get four people together in a game with mics and play through an expert campaign and that game was a blast.

    Likewise, I was playing Destiny every day for a few months after release with friends

    Doing things with friends generally makes things way more fun

    But people's complaints about Destiny's lack of content were also valid

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    i wonder how many more failed esports have to happen before companies realize you don't get to just decide your game is an esport months or years before anyone even plays it

    I mean... some people can. Blizzard. Capcom. Nintendo.

    But yeah, it's always come across to me as profoundly arrogant when devs talk about esports when the game isn't even out.

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  • SirEtchwartsSirEtchwarts Great Power Great CostumesRegistered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    I'm one of the few that liked L4D1 a lot more than 2, but I agree that it had a content problem.

    Can I ask why you prefer 1 to 2? That isn't an opinion I'd heard before, and I'm curious about it

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  • Theodore FlooseveltTheodore Floosevelt DON'T call me annie... unless you're my friendRegistered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    I'm one of the few that liked L4D1 a lot more than 2, but I agree that it had a content problem.

    Can I ask why you prefer 1 to 2? That isn't an opinion I'd heard before, and I'm curious about it

    i prefer 1 to 2, but i also didn't play 2 very much

    so i knew the maps of 1 really well and loved the weapon/zombie selection, but 2 felt like a bunch of extra stuff and options i didn't really want, and maps that didn't immediately appeal

    1 was really limited, but also really fun. one of those games where you're having enough fun with 1 map that it feels like totally enough, and anymore would dilute the experience

    which is kinda silly--and i don't think i usually get that way about games--but that's how it felt for me

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    I recall some people preferred the LFD1 survivors over thr LFD2 ones, also.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    i wonder how many more failed esports have to happen before companies realize you don't get to just decide your game is an esport months or years before anyone even plays it

    Esports are a silly thing
    Really esports happen on their own you cannot force it
    I really find the ideal of professional teams and sponsors silly as in the last couple of months killed a bunch of the ones in the US for some reason

  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    I'm one of the few that liked L4D1 a lot more than 2, but I agree that it had a content problem.

    Can I ask why you prefer 1 to 2? That isn't an opinion I'd heard before, and I'm curious about it

    I like the survivors better. The tone was a bit darker, it wasn't quite as self-aware. I liked the simplicity of the weapons more, it felt more quasi-realistic to find a shotgun in the wild than some sort of uber assault thing with fire bullets. I didn't particularly care for the new special infected. And I didn't really care for the New Orleans aesthetic.

    2 is not a bad game by any means. It just felt like something was a bit off. I know they added the old stuff into 2, but it still has the new weapons and infected so still feels off.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    I like the new special infected if only because they were like a laser guided solution to the most powerful strategies in L4D1

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Red Dead is up on Xbox One, visuals are the same but it runs smoother

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  • NaphtaliNaphtali Null Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    I like the new special infected if only because they were like a laser guided solution to the most powerful strategies in L4D1

    I like them in that regard, but I hated playing as some of them, namely the jockey. I felt like only ever rarely actually got on somebody without being murdered instantly vs playing against jockeys and them getting to ride people off into oblivion

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    The Spitter is the really important one that makes bunkering down in one spot a less viable tactic

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel Shell, Teeth, Eyes, Flame, Claws, Breath, Scales, FUN!Registered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Wonder if he and Vignocchi are forming a studio renting an RV and traveling across the country

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  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka What Would Nyarlathotep Do? Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Without any context this feels like a really great slam on Playstation

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Red Dead is up on Xbox One, visuals are the same but it runs smoother

    Okay but what about that multiplayer DLC because playing poker was really the best part of it, other than just riding around in a wagon with each other watching the sunset and terrorizing random villagers.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    Stilts wrote: »


    Huh

    Very interested to see what he does next

    Wonder if he and Vignocchi are forming a studio renting an RV and traveling across the country
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