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USA Presidential Election 2016: Screams from My Father

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    31 years ago today:

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  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »

    That.... is probably the most awful thing I have seen this election season.

    Either it would be legitimate because the NRA made it, which they almost certainly didn't.

    Or it would be a long form "I'm not a racist but" joke to imply that if more black people had guns then terrible things would happen.

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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    Zoel wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »

    That.... is probably the most awful thing I have seen this election season.

    Either it would be legitimate because the NRA made it, which they almost certainly didn't.

    Or it would be a long form "I'm not a racist but" joke to imply that if more black people had guns then terrible things would happen.

    I think the third option is "this is satirizing the NRA's stance that guns will absolutely protect you from guns," given the official NRA site has e.g. an article saying "when the law can't protect you from people like Omar, a gun can."

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  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    The third option is not even remotely mutually exclusive from the second.

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  • ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    The thing that gets me about the "no guns for people on the terror watchlist" thing is that it would have done nothing to prevent the Pulse shooting. Much has been been made of the fact the guy had been on the terror watchlist but the guy wasn't on the terror watchlist at the time he bought the guns.

    I could probably still be in favour of a bill stopping people on the terror watchlist from buying guns, (or better, they could buy guns but need to be given the ok by whoever's investigating them) but this bill also includes people on the no fly list, which has been notorious for false positives.

    So what? Guns aren't remotely as necessary as air travel.

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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »


    Yeah John Lewis knows nothing of protests rich white man.

    not to mention, it isn't a disgrace to Woolworth's

    Woolworth's doesn't get credit for having been the site of a series of protests

    quite the opposite, I'd say

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  • ZoelZoel I suppose... I'd put it on Registered User regular
    Is the necessity of a privilege* a good basis for having stricter or looser standards on it?

    I guess It's a minor point, but I'd have to say a better basis is the potential for harm to others in exercising that privilege.

    *as in, not a right.

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  • DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
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  • ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Weaver wrote: »

    this guy

    "gee I just don't see how it's possible to interpret a dislike of people of color from the phrase 'make America white again', I'm just talking about going back to a time when those people were second-class citizens"

    wow

    wow

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  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    Shorty wrote: »
    Weaver wrote: »

    this guy

    "gee I just don't see how it's possible to interpret a dislike of people of color from the phrase 'make America white again', I'm just talking about going back to a time when those people were second-class citizens"

    wow

    wow

    The cognitive dissonance in that statement should be punishable by law.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    Tyler told Channel 3 he has no hatred in his heart for "people of color." He says the sign's message is that America should go back to a "1960s, Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver time when there were no break-ins; no violent crime; no mass immigration."

    he's right in that quite a few people would agree with this sentiment. I mean hell, what does "Make America Great Again" mean if not "let's go back to that fictionalized utopia when there were no problems ever [for white people], because it was all cotton candy and turkey dinners until minorities screwed everything up."

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Tyler told Channel 3 he has no hatred in his heart for "people of color." He says the sign's message is that America should go back to a "1960s, Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver time when there were no break-ins; no violent crime; no mass immigration."
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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    Oh my borb he literally cited TV shows.

    Those were not documentaries you stupid goose.

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  • I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    let's go back to the 90s, when a bunch of white 20-somethings could have massive apartments in new york city

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  • Butler For Life #1Butler For Life #1 Twinning is WinningRegistered User regular
    let's go back to the 90s, when a bunch of white 20-somethings could have massive apartments in new york city

    agreed

    modern life is not what I thought it would be

    nobody told me life was going to be this way. My job's a joke, I'm broke, my love life's DOA.

    It's like I'm always stuck in second gear. It hasn't been my day, my week, or even my year.

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  • masterofmetroidmasterofmetroid Have you ever looked at a world and seen it as a kind of challenge?Registered User regular
    let's go back to the 90s, when a bunch of white 20-somethings could have massive apartments in new york city

    agreed

    modern life is not what I thought it would be

    nobody told me life was going to be this way. My job's a joke, I'm broke, my love life's DOA.

    It's like I'm always stuck in second gear. It hasn't been my day, my week, or even my year.
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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    For those interested out of morbid curiosity, you can watch the CNN Libertarian Town Hall here.

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  • TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    31 years ago today:

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    How dare you suggest the greatest "Bernie Bro" of them all has ever done anything positive. Having "principles" or being "morally just" is just a shallow play for votes. Don't you know he didn't concede before the election was over? He is literally history's greatest monster.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    I wonder if pundits will call out CNN as doing this in order to split the GOP vote

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Tyler told Channel 3 he has no hatred in his heart for "people of color." He says the sign's message is that America should go back to a "1960s, Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver time when there were no break-ins; no violent crime; no mass immigration."

    he's right in that quite a few people would agree with this sentiment. I mean hell, what does "Make America Great Again" mean if not "let's go back to that fictionalized utopia when there were no problems ever [for white people], because it was all cotton candy and turkey dinners until minorities screwed everything up."

    I still can't believe "Make America Great Again" is an actual campaign slogan

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Tossrock wrote: »
    31 years ago today:

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    How dare you suggest the greatest "Bernie Bro" of them all has ever done anything positive. Having "principles" or being "morally just" is just a shallow play for votes. Don't you know he didn't concede before the election was over? He is literally history's greatest monster.

    Election is over still hasn't conceded.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • MatevMatev Cero Miedo Registered User regular
    KalTorak wrote: »
    Tyler told Channel 3 he has no hatred in his heart for "people of color." He says the sign's message is that America should go back to a "1960s, Ozzie and Harriet, Leave it to Beaver time when there were no break-ins; no violent crime; no mass immigration."

    he's right in that quite a few people would agree with this sentiment. I mean hell, what does "Make America Great Again" mean if not "let's go back to that fictionalized utopia when there were no problems ever [for white people], because it was all cotton candy and turkey dinners until minorities screwed everything up."

    I still can't believe "Make America Great Again" is an actual campaign slogan

    Eh, it's jingoistic pablum, so it absolutely works as a modern GOP slogan.

    After these past 8 years following politics, nothing really surprises me anymore. It either leaves me hollow and not caring if we get sacked by the Goths, or it fans the lingering embers of my hope a tiny bit.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    As people have noted, it's a good slogan because A] it implies the opposition party (who currently holds the president) is responsible for America no longer being great and B] it's a hard thing to attack ("Oh, you don't want America to be great?")

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    it's amazing to me because it's just so obvious and lazy

    it's like they thought "It's Morning Again in America" was too "intellectual"

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  • Der Waffle MousDer Waffle Mous Blame this on the misfortune of your birth. New Yark, New Yark.Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Tossrock wrote: »
    31 years ago today:

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    How dare you suggest the greatest "Bernie Bro" of them all has ever done anything positive. Having "principles" or being "morally just" is just a shallow play for votes. Don't you know he didn't concede before the election was over? He is literally history's greatest monster.

    This is pretty much like the "He marched with MLK" thing where people point out a thing he did early in his career as proof he's always been a champion for those causes and then kinda ignore his spotty record on those issues in the intervening years.

    Not so say he's homophobic but for the longest time he was one of those "its the states right to recognize it" jerks irt gay marriage and civil unions (for better or for worse since that was his argument against DOMA).

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Tossrock wrote: »
    31 years ago today:

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    How dare you suggest the greatest "Bernie Bro" of them all has ever done anything positive. Having "principles" or being "morally just" is just a shallow play for votes. Don't you know he didn't concede before the election was over? He is literally history's greatest monster.
    This is suuuuuuper goosey

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    it's amazing to me because it's just so obvious and lazy
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    These are unofficial, but seriously: we've had winners like "I Like Ike" so it's not like a proud tradition of clever slogans being destroyed.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    As people have noted, it's a good slogan because A] it implies the opposition party (who currently holds the president) is responsible for America no longer being great and B] it's a hard thing to attack ("Oh, you don't want America to be great?")

    it's a good slogan for morons

    I've asked half a dozen people when america was greater than now and no one will answer because the answer is never.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    This whole House sit-in situation is getting...I dunno, they went back in session, and then the Democrats kept chanting "No Bill, No Break" and then I guess Paul Ryan shut down the C-SPAN cameras again, so now we're relying on Representative's Periscope streams to figure out what's happening, and they're singing We Shall Overcome, and...

    I dunno! I'm glad they're taking a stand on gun control, but I really wish they'd be taking a stand on a better gun control method than one that relies on the terror watch list or the no-fly list. And it's...weird. I don't expect it to do much, ultimately, though it is fun to see Republican lawmakers complain about obstruction

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  • milskimilski Poyo! Registered User regular
    This whole House sit-in situation is getting...I dunno, they went back in session, and then the Democrats kept chanting "No Bill, No Break" and then I guess Paul Ryan shut down the C-SPAN cameras again, so now we're relying on Representative's Periscope streams to figure out what's happening, and they're singing We Shall Overcome, and...

    I dunno! I'm glad they're taking a stand on gun control, but I really wish they'd be taking a stand on a better gun control method than one that relies on the terror watch list or the no-fly list. And it's...weird. I don't expect it to do much, ultimately, though it is fun to see Republican lawmakers complain about obstruction

    They're also pushing for universal background checks. I'm not a fan of No Fly No Buy, but they're striking while the iron is hot and using people's feelings on No Fly No Buy to keep more pressure on Gun Control in general and UBC, which has such huge public support I hope they stay strong on the issue.

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  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    If nothing else it's good to see them actively fight the idea that Congress and the Senate aren't doing anything, and instead shift to show that Republicans are stopping any meaningful legislation from getting a vote.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    milski wrote: »
    This whole House sit-in situation is getting...I dunno, they went back in session, and then the Democrats kept chanting "No Bill, No Break" and then I guess Paul Ryan shut down the C-SPAN cameras again, so now we're relying on Representative's Periscope streams to figure out what's happening, and they're singing We Shall Overcome, and...

    I dunno! I'm glad they're taking a stand on gun control, but I really wish they'd be taking a stand on a better gun control method than one that relies on the terror watch list or the no-fly list. And it's...weird. I don't expect it to do much, ultimately, though it is fun to see Republican lawmakers complain about obstruction

    They're also pushing for universal background checks. I'm not a fan of No Fly No Buy, but they're striking while the iron is hot and using people's feelings on No Fly No Buy to keep more pressure on Gun Control in general and UBC, which has such huge public support I hope they stay strong on the issue.

    yeah, and I'm seeing they're also pushing for research into gun violence, which would also be super welcome, and it's largely...you know, a matter of principle, more than anything, because even if they force a vote, I don't really think any of these plans will actually go through

    probably a pretty solid move in an election year, though

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    As people have noted, it's a good slogan because A] it implies the opposition party (who currently holds the president) is responsible for America no longer being great and B] it's a hard thing to attack ("Oh, you don't want America to be great?")

    it's a good slogan for morons

    I've asked half a dozen people when america was greater than now and no one will answer because the answer is never.

    Furthermore it implies a really unpatriotic view that America is shitty and that it's shittyness comes from really un-American Republican views on things like immigration, civil rights and flying a fucking flag representing a literally treasonous group of slave owners who started a war with an attack on an American fort that would be considered an act of terrorism in today's climate.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    As people have noted, it's a good slogan because A] it implies the opposition party (who currently holds the president) is responsible for America no longer being great and B] it's a hard thing to attack ("Oh, you don't want America to be great?")

    it's a good slogan for morons

    I've asked half a dozen people when america was greater than now and no one will answer because the answer is never.

    Furthermore it implies a really unpatriotic view that America is shitty and that it's shittyness comes from really un-American Republican views on things like immigration, civil rights and flying a fucking flag representing a literally treasonous group of slave owners who started a war with an attack on an American fort that would be considered an act of terrorism in today's climate.

    No way white dudes fired those shots. Isolated incident, you're the real racist, you know maybe that fort shouldn't have dressed like that.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    As people have noted, it's a good slogan because A] it implies the opposition party (who currently holds the president) is responsible for America no longer being great and B] it's a hard thing to attack ("Oh, you don't want America to be great?")

    it's a good slogan for morons

    I've asked half a dozen people when america was greater than now and no one will answer because the answer is never.

    Furthermore it implies a really unpatriotic view that America is shitty and that it's shittyness comes from really un-American Republican views on things like immigration, civil rights and flying a fucking flag representing a literally treasonous group of slave owners who started a war with an attack on an American fort that would be considered an act of terrorism in today's climate.

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  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    those 'trending now's are wonderful

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  • OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    holy shit david copperfield

    i didn't know he was still alive

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