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A Billion Degrees of [Science]

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    edited February 1
    ALS is one of those things that, just by existing, should shatter people's blind faith in an omnipotent God.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

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  • JedocJedoc That citation you've neededRegistered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning Registered User regular
    Pinfeldorf wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I went to Catholic school and we didn't get anti-science indoctrination like that. That stuff showing up in any legitimate educational setting makes me furious.

    I went to a nondenominational Christian school up through sixth grade, and my sixth grade teacher said, and I quote, "The Earth is no older than, at the oldest, 10,000 years old. Dinosaurs are no problem. I have proof."

    When a young, inquisitive mind asked for said proof, they got sent to the office for being insubordinate.

    When I was in junior high, we got a new teacher. We were a very small public school district in rural Canada, maybe like 5000 kids across several small towns, and we were, I think, the second-smallest school (there were smaller towns than us, but they didn't even have their own school and had to bus kids in), so we didn't exact get the best pickings (though I had several great teachers, there were others who were...not so much).

    One day in 8th grade our science teacher just started preaching creationism to us. Not from a religious sense (although he was an ex-Mennonite), just from the perspective of "there's evidence that the universe as we know it was created in a single instant, rather than starting small and expanding, and scientists who are attached to the expanding-universe theory are scared". I was so stunned I didn't say anything to the principal, although honestly there's probably not much he could have done (and the principal was, if not atheist, at least someone who cared about keeping religion out of science classes).

  • DarmakDarmak lsjkfghkletry Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    I don't need meaning, I'm just terrified of death. I told my wife to never pull the plug on me, even if I were injured and braindead. Just keep me hooked up to life support forever, kthx

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    I can't find any meaning and my body is more or less totally functional.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    This is why I have difficulty relating to it. I am saying that I don't think I would vote with them. Hard to know for sure and I hope I never find out, but it seems like losing all ability to interact with the world (side from a just-now-developed method for answering yes/no questions) would drive me insane.

    I don't really fear death that much. They'd have to convince me it was worth hanging around, if for no other reason than to benefit the scientific understanding of the condition and of brain waves. That could probably be enough, but I dunno.

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  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    I don't need meaning, I'm just terrified of death. I told my wife to never pull the plug on me, even if I were injured and braindead. Just keep me hooked up to life support forever, kthx

    man

    I'm the opposite

    I'm way more scared of just being trapped in a comatose body

    I really don't need to live that long

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    I don't need meaning, I'm just terrified of death. I told my wife to never pull the plug on me, even if I were injured and braindead. Just keep me hooked up to life support forever, kthx

    man

    I'm the opposite

    I'm way more scared of just being trapped in a comatose body

    I really don't need to live that long

    I keep thinking about the movie Johnny Got His Gun, or One by Metallica.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    I don't need meaning, I'm just terrified of death. I told my wife to never pull the plug on me, even if I were injured and braindead. Just keep me hooked up to life support forever, kthx

    man

    I'm the opposite

    I'm way more scared of just being trapped in a comatose body

    I really don't need to live that long

    I keep thinking about the movie Johnny Got His Gun, or One by Metallica.

    I remember the people in the room with me even the guy whom they kept sedated because he kept freaking out about how he lost his legs
    Just the sounds of machines beeping and mechanical breathing

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  • DarmakDarmak lsjkfghkletry Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    I don't need meaning, I'm just terrified of death. I told my wife to never pull the plug on me, even if I were injured and braindead. Just keep me hooked up to life support forever, kthx

    man

    I'm the opposite

    I'm way more scared of just being trapped in a comatose body

    I really don't need to live that long

    I literally want to live forever, by any means possible. If I have to drink the blood of infants then by god I'm gonna

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Really living forever is interesting because what if you turn yourself into a machince/cyborg? What if the tech that keeps you alive is outdated?
    what if humanity goes down the bizarre route of genetic body mods and alters the genome? What if in millions of years humans turn into beings of pure energy?
    And it goes on and on
    Living forever sounds really interesting but it ever has some pitfalls

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    You say you want to live forever, then the heat death of the universe happens and you are cold and alone because that's how monkey's paws work.

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  • JedocJedoc That citation you've neededRegistered User regular

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  • Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    70% accuracy rate, low sample size. Might want to not put too much stock in it yet.

    Also there's a selection bias there, in that most of the people unwilling to deal with that don't get there, because ALS is usually slow enough you can leave instructions about what to do, including withholding care.

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  • BrainleechBrainleech Registered User regular
    Brainleech wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    I don't need meaning, I'm just terrified of death. I told my wife to never pull the plug on me, even if I were injured and braindead. Just keep me hooked up to life support forever, kthx

    man

    I'm the opposite

    I'm way more scared of just being trapped in a comatose body

    I really don't need to live that long

    I keep thinking about the movie Johnny Got His Gun, or One by Metallica.

    I remember the people in the room with me even the guy whom they kept sedated because he kept freaking out about how he lost his legs
    Just the sounds of machines beeping and mechanical breathing

    Just remembering his freak outs where it was insane screaming and failing about my legs! they took my legs! and remembering the nurses would have to keep him sedated because it was off the charts level of freaking out and breaking down I felt sorry for him as they felt it was necessary to keep him in a medicated coma because he just could not get over losing his legs
    I am still curious what happened to him but I have a feeling
    Just remembering it made me really sad

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  • DarmakDarmak lsjkfghkletry Registered User regular
    You say you want to live forever, then the heat death of the universe happens and you are cold and alone because that's how monkey's paws work.

    I do hate being cold, it's true

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  • DepressperadoDepressperado I just wanted to see you laughing in the pizza rainRegistered User regular
    I'd hate to be stuck inside my own head

    I hate my brain, I don't want to spend any time with it

    also if I were to go deaf or blind or lose a limb or become paralyzed

    basically I am barely willing to continue living while my body functions normally

    any structural or software failure and it's like pretty please mercy kill me

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  • HobnailHobnail Registered User regular
    If I break my leg shoot me in the fuckin head like a horse

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  • Platypus BeirutPlatypus Beirut Registered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    If I break my leg shoot me in the fuckin head like a horse

    If my lips get chapped, cut the fucking rope

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO ROLLING STAAAAAAAAAAAAART Registered User regular
    Darmak wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    Darmak wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what's going through those people's minds while being locked-in.
    If I were in that situation I had better hear that doctors are close to being able to put my brain in a robot body or drop my consciousness into a virtual reality, otherwise please just switch me off.

    Three out of four people in that exact situation disagree. I think you might be underestimating the flexibility of the human mind to create meaning.

    I don't need meaning, I'm just terrified of death. I told my wife to never pull the plug on me, even if I were injured and braindead. Just keep me hooked up to life support forever, kthx

    man

    I'm the opposite

    I'm way more scared of just being trapped in a comatose body

    I really don't need to live that long

    I literally want to live forever, by any means possible. If I have to drink the blood of infants then by god I'm gonna

    would you want to live forever, but with the catch that you also suffer total sensory deprivation forever?

  • BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Hobnail wrote: »
    If I break my leg shoot me in the fuckin head like a horse

    If my lips get chapped, cut the fucking rope

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    done

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    People mentioned Cochlear Implants and Deaf Culture in here, right?

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »

    I'm currently heavily debating on whether or not I should show up to this march in a full Ghostbusters outfit with a sign that says "BACK OFF, MAN!"

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  • LuvTheMonkeyLuvTheMonkey High Sierra Serenade Registered User regular
    I mean

    Yes you should obviously do that

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  • Ashaman42Ashaman42 Registered User regular
    I want to agree more than once.

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  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka What Would Nyarlathotep Do? Registered User regular
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  • JedocJedoc That citation you've neededRegistered User regular
    Mad scientists.

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  • UrielUriel Registered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Mad scientists.

    And why?

    Because they dared to dream of their own race of atomic monsters, atomic supermen!

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  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka What Would Nyarlathotep Do? Registered User regular
    Uriel wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Mad scientists.

    And why?

    Because they dared to dream of their own race of atomic monsters, atomic supermen!

    With freeway on ramps for arms and a heart as black as coal

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  • XehalusXehalus Registered User regular
    edited February 7
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    death of a star

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    JoeUser wrote: »

    I'm currently heavily debating on whether or not I should show up to this march in a full Ghostbusters outfit with a sign that says "BACK OFF, MAN!"

    As a fellow paranormal scientist.

    Yes. Yes you should.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    JoeUser wrote: »

    I'm currently heavily debating on whether or not I should show up to this march in a full Ghostbusters outfit with a sign that says "BACK OFF, MAN!"

    As a fellow paranormal scientist.

    Yes. Yes you should.

    My conflict comes from miring my 'franchise' in politics. On advice from one of my teammates I am just going to tear the Atlanta patch from my old suit and go at it.

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  • DarmakDarmak lsjkfghkletry Registered User regular
    Xehalus wrote: »
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    death of a star

    Makes me think of something like this

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  • timspork's ghosttimspork's ghost Librarian and Ghostbuster Registered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    JoeUser wrote: »

    I'm currently heavily debating on whether or not I should show up to this march in a full Ghostbusters outfit with a sign that says "BACK OFF, MAN!"

    As a fellow paranormal scientist.

    Yes. Yes you should.

    My conflict comes from miring my 'franchise' in politics. On advice from one of my teammates I am just going to tear the Atlanta patch from my old suit and go at it.

    I got it easy. I don't even have a franchise!

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular
    TankHammer wrote: »
    TankHammer wrote: »
    JoeUser wrote: »

    I'm currently heavily debating on whether or not I should show up to this march in a full Ghostbusters outfit with a sign that says "BACK OFF, MAN!"

    As a fellow paranormal scientist.

    Yes. Yes you should.

    My conflict comes from miring my 'franchise' in politics. On advice from one of my teammates I am just going to tear the Atlanta patch from my old suit and go at it.

    I got it easy. I don't even have a franchise!

    If that works for you, stick with it. I accidentally founded one of the fastest-growing fan-groups over beers with friends one night. Took us less than a year. It gets kind of daunting.

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  • Ashaman42Ashaman42 Registered User regular
    Do I buy Carl Sagan's Cosmos on DVD for £11 off of that Amazon? Someone decide.

  • JedocJedoc That citation you've neededRegistered User regular
    Ashaman42 wrote: »
    Do I buy Carl Sagan's Cosmos on DVD for £11 off of that Amazon? Someone decide.

    Do it. I watched it just a couple of years ago when it was still streaming on Netflix (or Hulu, I forget) and it still holds up extremely well. Plus, Carl Sagan is right up there with Bob Ross for being the soothingest motherfucker when you're feeling frazzled.

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  • Ashaman42Ashaman42 Registered User regular
    I know of Mssr Sagan and I've been watching/listening to a lot of MelodySheep youtube videos lately but I've never actually seen anything of his.

    I could just youtube it I guess but there's always distractions when at the computer and a DVD I can just stick on when schlubbing on the sofa is probably more likely to be watched.

    And boy have I been frazzled lately. So it could be good therapy.

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