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3-4 week trip to the US East coast in September

Anarchy Rules!Anarchy Rules! Registered User regular
So I'm planning a 3-4 week trip to the US in September (coming from the UK).

I'm thinking of visiting New York, Washington and Boston. I'm a museum/history kind of guy so I should be pretty sorted out with these cities!

How long would you recommend staying in each city really? Are there other cities you'd recommend, I want to make the most of the time, but not spend all my time traveling around!

This year I had planned on hiking the Appalachian trail, but unfortunately life got in the way. If possible I'd love to be able to see some of the country itself (not necessarily the AT). I've heard New Hampshire is nice? Is there somewhere you'd recommend that is accessible via public transport?

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  • Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    NH is nice, though public transport will generally not be available. If you can rent a car for a few days, a two hour drive will get you into the White Mountains region, which has a lot of good hiking. The Berkshires region (western Massachusetts) is also very nice and would not be far out of the way from an NYC/Boston route.

    If driving isn't an option, another option might be to look for outdoors or camping clubs (AMC?) and see if any are organizing group trips during your vacation.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    3 days in DC, maybe a day in Annapolis. Avoid Baltimore. If you want to hike a bit of the Appalachian trail. Shenandoah is about 2.5 hours away from DC.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Those 3 cities will have you pretty well covered for museums.

    If you want to see some cool stuff - rent a car and do some of the following:
    If you really like mountains - NH is the place - go up into the whites and climb Washington for the views (actually an easy but long hike if you go off the backside) or Chocorua on the Champney Falls trail if you want a really cool rock scramble. Lafayatte-Lincoln is also good.
    Additionally - hit up Portland Maine for awesome waterfront eats, Portsmouth is also ok (but not at the level of Portland)

    Lots of other cool stuff in the area, let me think on it and get back to you.

    Other than history - anything you're into?

  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    An alternative option for transportation between these three cities would be by train. It's a few hours to NYC from Boston or DC, but you won't have to worry about driving (unless you'd like to!) ....it would also likely be quite a bit cheaper. You DO NOT want to drive in NYC if you can avoid it. Boston is pretty insane as well for driving, and in both of those cities you can get around pretty well with public transportation (or a cab if need be). Haven't spent much time in DC so I can't speak to the preferred transportation method there.

    Personally I would aim to drive as little as possible. There is an abundance of stuff you can do within subway/walking/cab distance in each of these cities.

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    By all accounts doing the Gettysburg car tour with audio is excellent. And easily combines seeing some outdoors and history tour.

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    An alternative option for transportation between these three cities would be by train. It's a few hours to NYC from Boston or DC, but you won't have to worry about driving (unless you'd like to!) ....it would also likely be quite a bit cheaper. You DO NOT want to drive in NYC if you can avoid it. Boston is pretty insane as well for driving, and in both of those cities you can get around pretty well with public transportation (or a cab if need be). Haven't spent much time in DC so I can't speak to the preferred transportation method there.

    Personally I would aim to drive as little as possible. There is an abundance of stuff you can do within subway/walking/cab distance in each of these cities.

    DC to NYC train is $100-150 each way. It's not cheap, unfortunately.

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  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    An alternative option for transportation between these three cities would be by train. It's a few hours to NYC from Boston or DC, but you won't have to worry about driving (unless you'd like to!) ....it would also likely be quite a bit cheaper. You DO NOT want to drive in NYC if you can avoid it. Boston is pretty insane as well for driving, and in both of those cities you can get around pretty well with public transportation (or a cab if need be). Haven't spent much time in DC so I can't speak to the preferred transportation method there.

    Personally I would aim to drive as little as possible. There is an abundance of stuff you can do within subway/walking/cab distance in each of these cities.

    DC to NYC train is $100-150 each way. It's not cheap, unfortunately.

    Compared to the cost of renting a car and gas, it seems to be cheaper though, yes? And I imagine they'd only be taking it one way. It's about the same price from NYC to Boston, maybe a bit more.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    By all accounts doing the Gettysburg car tour with audio is excellent. And easily combines seeing some outdoors and history tour.
    I have done that. It is excellent. Gettysburg does it right in general.
    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    An alternative option for transportation between these three cities would be by train. It's a few hours to NYC from Boston or DC, but you won't have to worry about driving (unless you'd like to!) ....it would also likely be quite a bit cheaper. You DO NOT want to drive in NYC if you can avoid it. Boston is pretty insane as well for driving, and in both of those cities you can get around pretty well with public transportation (or a cab if need be). Haven't spent much time in DC so I can't speak to the preferred transportation method there.

    Personally I would aim to drive as little as possible. There is an abundance of stuff you can do within subway/walking/cab distance in each of these cities.

    DC to NYC train is $100-150 each way. It's not cheap, unfortunately.

    Compared to the cost of renting a car and gas, it seems to be cheaper though, yes? And I imagine they'd only be taking it one way. It's about the same price from NYC to Boston, maybe a bit more.
    Megabus is cheap has wifi and is not as shady as Chinatown bus.

    From the UK do not drive in DC or NYC you will crash.

    For accommodations in DC Stay in northern Virginia near a Metro stop. Reagan National or Tysons corner are both metro accessible, with a good number of hotels. Hilton Marriot Raddison are all decent.

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    From America do not drive in DC or NYC. The only people that should be driving in those cities are people who live/work there. The traffic is insane and the locals generally don't have the time or patience for someone trying to figure out where they're going.

  • ThroThro pgroome@penny-arcade.com Registered User regular
    Quid wrote: »
    From America do not drive in DC or NYC. The only people that should be driving in those cities are people who live/work there. The traffic is insane and the locals generally don't have the time or patience for someone trying to figure out where they're going.

    And if you're not going to run up the escalator to get to the DC metro, stand on the right.

    The DC metro is pretty straight forward, and takes you to most of the museums, zoo, etc. There's tons of buses too, but they're a bit more complicated.

  • SmrtnikSmrtnik job boli zub Registered User regular
    If interested in history could always check out the mansions in Newport, ri.
    It's like a neighborhood of Downton Abbys that were built before income tax was a thing, and you can audio tour them all.

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  • Anarchy Rules!Anarchy Rules! Registered User regular
    Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I won't be renting a car as I don't have a driving licence!
    schuss wrote: »
    Those 3 cities will have you pretty well covered for museums.

    If you want to see some cool stuff - rent a car and do some of the following:
    If you really like mountains - NH is the place - go up into the whites and climb Washington for the views (actually an easy but long hike if you go off the backside) or Chocorua on the Champney Falls trail if you want a really cool rock scramble. Lafayatte-Lincoln is also good.
    Additionally - hit up Portland Maine for awesome waterfront eats, Portsmouth is also ok (but not at the level of Portland)

    Lots of other cool stuff in the area, let me think on it and get back to you.

    Other than history - anything you're into?

    Generally when I visit a city I'll visit the main landmarks, as many of the museums as I can fit in. Other than that I generally enjoy just wandering around and getting a feel for the place.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Thanks for the suggestions everyone. I won't be renting a car as I don't have a driving licence!
    schuss wrote: »
    Those 3 cities will have you pretty well covered for museums.

    If you want to see some cool stuff - rent a car and do some of the following:
    If you really like mountains - NH is the place - go up into the whites and climb Washington for the views (actually an easy but long hike if you go off the backside) or Chocorua on the Champney Falls trail if you want a really cool rock scramble. Lafayatte-Lincoln is also good.
    Additionally - hit up Portland Maine for awesome waterfront eats, Portsmouth is also ok (but not at the level of Portland)

    Lots of other cool stuff in the area, let me think on it and get back to you.

    Other than history - anything you're into?

    Generally when I visit a city I'll visit the main landmarks, as many of the museums as I can fit in. Other than that I generally enjoy just wandering around and getting a feel for the place.

    Places I'd recommend then:
    NYC - lots of good neighborhoods - I'm no expert, but there's a ton there
    Boston - Plan some time for wandering about the South End, then Cambridge & Somerville
    DC - Don't know enough to comment
    Portland Maine - if you get the chance, stay at least 1 night on a weekend or thursday - huge restaurant & night scene in the old port

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    So Let's talk DC Museums.

    If this is your very first time in DC, this is my short museum list for those coming for the first time.

    National Mall Museums. You can hit 2 or maybe 3 in a long day. It's a lot of walking to go from one end to another.
    Air and Space Museum (it's awesome once afterwards it doesn't really change).
    National Museum of American History (This one is pretty good even a second time).
    National Museum of Natural History.
    Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden (This is neat, I check it out every time I'm in the area but I like Sculptures)
    While you are there, might as well check out the Lincoln Memorial, the Vietnam Memorial and the Washington Monument
    Wear comfortable shoes, you'll put 10-20 miles on your pedometer

    Non National Mall Museums you should hit
    Spy Museum (costs money but it is my favorite museum, I've been numerous times)
    National Portrait Gallery (Not near anything but quiet and enjoyable)
    *Holocaust Museum* I'm putting asterisk on this because it is fucking brutal, understand that before going, it will bum you out a lot.

    National Zoo, even though is not a Museum is a really great zoo.

    And as I said before spending a day in downtown Annapolis is fun.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Yeah, Holocaust is amazing, but it hits like a truck.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Providence, RI is potentially worth a stop on your way from Boston to NYC. It's on the train route between the two and I'm sure bus-reachable.

    There are a variety of Colonial-era recreation / living-history places between the two, if that's your thing. It's been a long time since I was a kid and obliged to go to them, but they're mostly still there.

    While you are in Boston, even if you're not an aquarium guy, see theirs. It's pretty remarkable.

    The Museum of Fine Arts there is really impressive as well. One of my favorite spots to visit back when I was in college.

    Most of the other really exciting-to-see collections in Boston are really across the river in Cambridge at Harvard, but they have a pretty good science museum.

    You could literally spend that entire time in New York City and not run out of stuff to see by any reasonable standard, however, and I'm going to say if you're not interested in getting sucked in there you might actually be better off skipping NYC in favor of just staying in New England proper for a good while then going to the DC - Maryland area.

  • metaghostmetaghost An intriguing odor A delicate touchRegistered User regular
    While in the Boston area, you might want to consider finding a way into Lincoln/Concord to visit Walden Pond and/or the DeCordova Sculpture Park. I'm pretty sure Walden would be less packed with tourists in September and is a nice location to experience New England's fall foliage and vibe with history. And DeCordova is an interesting alternative to the typical art museums that folks visit, though I have no idea what exhibits they'll have come September.

    Also, I recommend the Isabelle Gardner museum (near the MFA in Boston) if you like looking at old books.

    And I'll second Auralynx's suggestion to stop in Providence, RI at some point, especially if you can aligning it with a WaterFire exhibition.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    metaghost wrote: »
    While in the Boston area, you might want to consider finding a way into Lincoln/Concord to visit Walden Pond and/or the DeCordova Sculpture Park. I'm pretty sure Walden would be less packed with tourists in September and is a nice location to experience New England's fall foliage and vibe with history. And DeCordova is an interesting alternative to the typical art museums that folks visit, though I have no idea what exhibits they'll have come September.

    Also, I recommend the Isabelle Gardner museum (near the MFA in Boston) if you like looking at old books.

    And I'll second Auralynx's suggestion to stop in Providence, RI at some point, especially if you can aligning it with a WaterFire exhibition.

    There's a similar, irregular-of-access facility in slightly-upstate NY: Storm King Park.

    It's been on my radar a while but I have yet to talk myself into going alone or anyone else into coming.

  • QuidQuid Definitely not a banana Registered User regular
    Personally I'd set aside at least five days for DC. Each of the major Smithsonians can take half a day at least on just their own. While the national mall can be seen in a day there are a ton more statues and memorials outside of its immediate vicinity. Along with payed museums and other exhibits that can easily eat up a week.

  • SLyMSLyM Registered User regular
    If you're staying in Boston, there's a train that's fairly cheap that'll bring you to maine/new Hampshire for a day or few day trip, the downeaster. I've taken it to visit friends in Boston and it's pretty nice. If you're looking for beaches and/or seafood you'll probably find it worth your time.

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    SLyM wrote: »
    If you're staying in Boston, there's a train that's fairly cheap that'll bring you to maine/new Hampshire for a day or few day trip, the downeaster. I've taken it to visit friends in Boston and it's pretty nice. If you're looking for beaches and/or seafood you'll probably find it worth your time.

    Yeah, if you get a chance while in New England, take a trip up to the Maine coast. It's absolutely beautiful, and the lobster is (hopefully still) pretty cheap.

    Another thing to hit while visiting DC is the Arlington National Cemetery: Kennedy's flame, the Challenger monument, Iwo Jima Memorial, the changing of the guard at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldiers. Metro stop right there, or a nice walk across a bridge from the Lincoln Memorial.

    If you're at all interested in baseball, Nationals Park in both easily reachable on the metro and a really nice stadium to boot. Took a couple of visiting Brit friends there a month+ back, and got one of them hooked. He's still complaining about intentional walks.

  • Dis'Dis' Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    From the UK do not drive in DC or NYC you will crash.

    Hey I drove in both NYC and DC when I visited the east coast (needed the rental car anyway) and didn't crash once.

    I mean I still have literal nightmares about it but it's not like its Rome levels bad.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Dis' wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    From the UK do not drive in DC or NYC you will crash.

    Hey I drove in both NYC and DC when I visited the east coast (needed the rental car anyway) and didn't crash once.

    I mean I still have literal nightmares about it but it's not like its Rome levels bad.
    It's not the traffic in DC, it's the other drivers. They are crazy, and may try to drive you off the road or block you from merging with a ferver only known to the religious zealot. New York City is just congestion. I've driven thru once, and it was just time consuming. I'll still take NYC crazy over DC crazy any day. That combined with the road being on the "wrong side" makes it very possible to get into a bad situation.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    zepherin wrote: »
    Dis' wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    From the UK do not drive in DC or NYC you will crash.

    Hey I drove in both NYC and DC when I visited the east coast (needed the rental car anyway) and didn't crash once.

    I mean I still have literal nightmares about it but it's not like its Rome levels bad.
    It's not the traffic in DC, it's the other drivers. They are crazy, and may try to drive you off the road or block you from merging with a ferver only known to the religious zealot. New York City is just congestion. I've driven thru once, and it was just time consuming. I'll still take NYC crazy over DC crazy any day. That combined with the road being on the "wrong side" makes it very possible to get into a bad situation.

    Driving in Boston is worse than the others it feels like.

    Boston occupies some sort of 8th dimensional space.

    But yeah avoid driving as much as possible. Trains, planes, buses. Use them liberally unless you've got someone from the US with you that is willing to drive you around.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Boston traffic is horrific. Partly because of how terribly the city is laid out. Partly due to police requirements in terms of street blockage for all sorts of things by Mass. state law. Party due to everyone being angry and driving poorly due to the two previous things.

  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    If you like baseball (not many people outside U.S. do, but thought I'd throw it out there), the Nats play in Nats park which is close to the Naval Yard metro stop. I really enjoy the place, and it's my favorite spot to go and hang out for an afternoon.

  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    edited July 2016
    If you don't want to go too far north of Boston, you can always visit Portsmouth NH. It's right on the coast, right up Interstate 95, and has good restaurants and shops as well as colonial stuff in Strawbery Banke:

    http://www.strawberybanke.org/

    There's also Odiorne Point State Park not too far from there, if you want more nature:

    http://www.nhstateparks.com/odiorne.html

    EDIT: it's like an hour/hour and a half away from Boston proper, with most of that time getting out of the city itself.

    Nightslyr on
  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    SLyM wrote: »
    If you're staying in Boston, there's a train that's fairly cheap that'll bring you to maine/new Hampshire for a day or few day trip, the downeaster. I've taken it to visit friends in Boston and it's pretty nice. If you're looking for beaches and/or seafood you'll probably find it worth your time.

    Yeah, if you get a chance while in New England, take a trip up to the Maine coast. It's absolutely beautiful, and the lobster is (hopefully still) pretty cheap.

    Nope! Sadly.

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