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[Movies] Nobody Fucks Like Gaston
Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
NBC Nightly News is gonna have a story about that Great Wall movie with Matt Damon. It'll be interesting to see what the take is, because it's hard for me to agree with whitewashing when it seems to be a fully Chinese production. If I'm wrong, that changes things, but everything I've read is pointing in that direction.
That said, the idea is fucking stupid. Same reason I didn't bother with The Last Samurai (is White).
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Raijin QuickfootI'm your Huckleberry YOU'RE NO DAISYRegistered User, ClubPAregular
I've heard The Last Samurai is good, but it came out when I didn't care much about Tom Cruise, and the idea that he played a samurai just seemed so lame to me. I'll check it out someday, I guess.
Meanwhile, the reason given by the director for Matt Damon was that it's an English-language, Hollywood monster movie and it needs to be made in that style. So, literally business as usual!
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Bloods EndBlade of TyshallePunch dimensionRegistered Userregular
Yup
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
The Last Samurai is definitely part of the "white outsider looking in to the mysterious and exotic other" trope, but its also a pretty ok movie and not too egregious with it
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Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
I will watch anything with ken watanabe, that guy is hella filmable
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
The Last Samurai is definitely part of the "white outsider looking in to the mysterious and exotic other" trope, but its also a pretty ok movie and not too egregious with it
I honestly thought of it as "here's the price of your precious industrialization. The death of good men and honor."
I only just remembered to double check but the music playing during Kirk's fights in Star Trek Beyond is absolutely the goofy fight music cue from the show
I only just remembered to double check but the music playing during Kirk's fights in Star Trek Beyond is absolutely the goofy fight music cue from the show
That is a Good Thing to continue from Into Darkness
I only just remembered to double check but the music playing during Kirk's fights in Star Trek Beyond is absolutely the goofy fight music cue from the show
That is a Good Thing to continue from Into Darkness
Haha did they do the same thing? I only saw Into Darkness the one time
NBC Nightly News is gonna have a story about that Great Wall movie with Matt Damon. It'll be interesting to see what the take is, because it's hard for me to agree with whitewashing when it seems to be a fully Chinese production. If I'm wrong, that changes things, but everything I've read is pointing in that direction.
in a lot of ways the Great Wall discussion reminds me of the Dr Strange one
I'm now firmly in the camp that I'm really fucking glad they DIDN'T cast an Asian actor in the role of the Ancient One, because I don't really need or want another tropey mystical wise old Asian please and thank you
FTR that angryasianman blog does not speak for all Asians, and certainly not non-American Asians
Vixx on
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TrippyJingMoses supposes his toeses are roses.But Moses supposes erroneously.Registered Userregular
If an Asian actor was cast as the Ancient One, I'd hope they lose the mystical wise old angle and just make them teach magic like Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society.
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Olivawgood name, isn't it?the foot of mt fujiRegistered Userregular
in a lot of ways the Great Wall discussion reminds me of the Dr Strange one
I'm now firmly in the camp that I'm really fucking glad they DIDN'T cast an Asian actor in the role of the Ancient One, because I don't really need or want another tropey mystical wise old Asian please and thank you
FTR that angryasianman blog does not speak for all Asians, and certainly not non-American Asians
Yeah, I've come around the same way. The Ancient One isn't the casting issue
It's kind of everyone else in the film combined into a single gestalt casting issue
If an Asian actor was cast as the Ancient One, I'd hope they lose the mystical wise old angle and just make them teach magic like Robin Williams in Dead Poets Society.
THEY'RE CALLED THE *ANCIENT ONE*
I think they knew they couldn't rewrite that shit if they tried
I only just remembered to double check but the music playing during Kirk's fights in Star Trek Beyond is absolutely the goofy fight music cue from the show
That is a Good Thing to continue from Into Darkness
Haha did they do the same thing? I only saw Into Darkness the one time
I don't think it's fair to call the Great Wall case one of "whitewashing"
it's more fair to maybe consider why a Chinese film feels like it needs a white guy front and centre to make the movie internationally appealing
mainland Chinese know and understand that we are not "globally" mainstream in the media; that remains with white people
I can turn on the TV in China and see lots of white faces and white TV shows that are subtitled or dubbed; it's much rarer to find it the other way around
people are now saying "the movie would still have been good if it was all Chinese people!" well, maybe, but then you probably wouldn't have seen it
you can blame that on Hollywood going "pffft that movie's too niche, it'll never sell" AND on individuals not wanting to watch the movie because they don't see themselves in it, or don't see if they'll relate to it
so instead of doing a historical Chinese film with an all-Chinese cast (which they've done repeatedly over the years, with only a handful hitting mainstream cinemas internationally), they're doing a fantastical Chinese film with a white lead
let's be perfectly frank here; it'll sell
how many people saw Hero in cinemas during its release? how many cinemas actually had a release long enough for you to go see it in theatres?
so it's not just a problem with whitewashing; it's Hollywood marketing decisions coupled with long-known, evidenced individual consumer patterns
and that sounds like the argument made for movies like Gods of Egypt and crap like that, but in this case, they DID cast a white guy to get it promoted... in the US *and* in China, because can you imagine how excited Chinese audiences are to see an internationally recognised white guy join THEIR movie?
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That said, the idea is fucking stupid. Same reason I didn't bother with The Last Samurai (is White).
friggin' watch Green Room or go to hell
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please watch Green Room when it's convenient for you
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I will!!
Meanwhile, the reason given by the director for Matt Damon was that it's an English-language, Hollywood monster movie and it needs to be made in that style. So, literally business as usual!
I was pretty sure it referred to tom cruise, until I saw the movie
The guy can make me believe pretty much any character
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I want to grow old together with him
he was my favorite part of Inception
You're welcome. I really want to see it too.
i've only heard good things from people i trust regarding horror
That's really surprising. I thought for sure it was going to be garbage.
I'm in the same camp.
I am dreading to see what's inevitably done to that poor hotdog bun's "mouth"
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I honestly thought of it as "here's the price of your precious industrialization. The death of good men and honor."
That is a Good Thing to continue from Into Darkness
Haha did they do the same thing? I only saw Into Darkness the one time
dunno if you've read this post of mine yet, but if you haven't: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/comment/35668881/#Comment_35668881
I'm now firmly in the camp that I'm really fucking glad they DIDN'T cast an Asian actor in the role of the Ancient One, because I don't really need or want another tropey mystical wise old Asian please and thank you
FTR that angryasianman blog does not speak for all Asians, and certainly not non-American Asians
Yeah, I've come around the same way. The Ancient One isn't the casting issue
It's kind of everyone else in the film combined into a single gestalt casting issue
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THEY'RE CALLED THE *ANCIENT ONE*
I think they knew they couldn't rewrite that shit if they tried
at least they went with a woman!
Yup! It's in this track, at about 1:58
https://youtu.be/Sj6bERITNzE
I think it's technically when Spock is fighting a guy, but y'know
an ancient sage with a chain wallet, frosted tips, and leather pants that were too gaudy for rey misterio jr.
it's more fair to maybe consider why a Chinese film feels like it needs a white guy front and centre to make the movie internationally appealing
mainland Chinese know and understand that we are not "globally" mainstream in the media; that remains with white people
I can turn on the TV in China and see lots of white faces and white TV shows that are subtitled or dubbed; it's much rarer to find it the other way around
people are now saying "the movie would still have been good if it was all Chinese people!" well, maybe, but then you probably wouldn't have seen it
you can blame that on Hollywood going "pffft that movie's too niche, it'll never sell" AND on individuals not wanting to watch the movie because they don't see themselves in it, or don't see if they'll relate to it
so instead of doing a historical Chinese film with an all-Chinese cast (which they've done repeatedly over the years, with only a handful hitting mainstream cinemas internationally), they're doing a fantastical Chinese film with a white lead
let's be perfectly frank here; it'll sell
how many people saw Hero in cinemas during its release? how many cinemas actually had a release long enough for you to go see it in theatres?
so it's not just a problem with whitewashing; it's Hollywood marketing decisions coupled with long-known, evidenced individual consumer patterns
and that sounds like the argument made for movies like Gods of Egypt and crap like that, but in this case, they DID cast a white guy to get it promoted... in the US *and* in China, because can you imagine how excited Chinese audiences are to see an internationally recognised white guy join THEIR movie?
Just a few tweaks of this post and you're right into Lord of illusions territory