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It's Steven's Universe, We All Just Live in It

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
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    Latest episode reaction of mine
    I actually just screamed, "What the fuck?!" at that ending
    I expect that he's gonna learn how to breathe in space, leading to more Lion-space stuff.

    Next ep
    is called Bubbled and the description is literally something like "Steven's in a bubble".

    Probably going to be a whole flashback ep about what Rose did while he waits to be saved (or die in space while the rest of the show is all about lovable Peridot's adventures and bringing the gang's spirits back up)

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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I love rubies

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    MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    Ruby's VA is the absolute best. Every Ruby episode is a treat because of her.

    Is time a gift or punishment?
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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
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    ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    I've been reading lapis/peridot as protective sisters

    Peridot is thirsty as hell for amethyst though

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    boy howdy this sure is a children's show

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    It's actually pretty important that it is. These are good themes to be teaching kids.

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    NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
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    It was me! Yellow Dio-mond!

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    Sweeney TomSweeney Tom Registered User regular
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    COME ON
    AND SLAM
    AND WELCOME TO THE JAM

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
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    It was me! Yellow Dio-mond!
    Diamond Is Breakable.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
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    It was me! Yellow Dio-mond!

    Home Warudo!

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    Wow, Enlong. Innapropes.

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    MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    Thoughts on the Pink Diamond mural:
    So, only one world in her domain. Was she new? The youngest of the diamonds, perhaps?

    Is time a gift or punishment?
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    NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    MegaMek wrote: »
    Thoughts on the Pink Diamond mural:
    So, only one world in her domain. Was she new? The youngest of the diamonds, perhaps?
    probably just the newest colony and it was to belong to pink diamond

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
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    It was me! Yellow Dio-mond!

    Back To The Moon spoilers

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    MegaMekMegaMek Girls like girls. Registered User regular
    MegaMek wrote: »
    Thoughts on the Pink Diamond mural:
    So, only one world in her domain. Was she new? The youngest of the diamonds, perhaps?
    probably just the newest colony and it was to belong to pink diamond
    Yes, when the mural was made, Earth was certainly the newest colony. I've suspected that these murals depict the number of worlds the diamonds manage at the time the murals were made. I think this is the only one depicting Pink in this style at all. Since they're made to honor the diamonds, it doesn't make sense to me that they would depict Pink only holding one world unless it was her only (read "first").

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    Andy JoeAndy Joe We claim the land for the highlord! The AdirondacksRegistered User regular
    Back to the Moon
    The most interesting thing to me in this episode was the Rubies' perspective on Jasper. She's not just a war machine, she's a hero, a paragon of Homeworld ideals. I can't help but imagine that all this praise and adulation is just a bitter reminder of her own failure to protect Pink Diamond.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I mean, there is a place literally called home world. And
    They referred to the earth as an outpost. And gems have been referred to in the past as a species that are basically like galactic viruses in how they spread, take over planets, and subjugate them to further their race (or whatever agenda the diamonds have).

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    I mean, there is a place literally called home world. And
    They referred to the earth as an outpost. And gems have been referred to in the past as a species that are basically like galactic viruses in how they spread, take over planets, and subjugate them to further their race (or whatever agenda the diamonds have).
    I mean, let's be fair. Just about any species that branches out into intergalactic travel and colonization is gonna take part in some form of terraforming to ensure their survival.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    edited August 2016
    Enlong wrote: »
    I mean, there is a place literally called home world. And
    They referred to the earth as an outpost. And gems have been referred to in the past as a species that are basically like galactic viruses in how they spread, take over planets, and subjugate them to further their race (or whatever agenda the diamonds have).
    I mean, let's be fair. Just about any species that branches out into intergalactic travel and colonization is gonna take part in some form of terraforming to ensure their survival.
    Dude,
    They have macrophage structures. Macrophage structures. They weren't 'terraforming' either, they were going to consume the resources of the planet to make new gems and commit universal genocide on organic life.

    Edit: like, it is not a straight line from Gems -> Virus but they have worked very hard to make the parallels obvious and in the foreground

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    I think it's possible that
    Rose shattering Pink Diamond is what started the war. Which is why she blames herself for the corruption wave, and also Bismuth.

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    EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I think it's possible that
    Rose shattering Pink Diamond is what started the war. Which is why she blames herself for the corruption wave, and also Bismuth.
    Can't be.

    According to Eyeball, Rose started the rebellion, and then went too far after that.

    And Jasper was born in the Beta Kindergarten; which was built in a desperate attempt to make more soldiers to fight against the rebellion. Jasper also knew Pink Diamond as her Diamond.

    The war had to have been in full swing before Rose shattered Pink Diamond.

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    The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    MegaMek wrote: »
    Ruby's VA is the absolute best. Every Ruby episode is a treat because of her.

    She does a good job on We Bare Bears too.

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    edited August 2016
    Enlong wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    I think it's possible that
    Rose shattering Pink Diamond is what started the war. Which is why she blames herself for the corruption wave, and also Bismuth.
    Can't be.

    According to Eyeball, Rose started the rebellion, and then went too far after that.

    And Jasper was born in the Beta Kindergarten; which was built in a desperate attempt to make more soldiers to fight against the rebellion. Jasper also knew Pink Diamond as her Diamond.

    The war had to have been in full swing before Rose shattered Pink Diamond.
    Plus Jasper emerged in the middle of a fight with the Crystal Gems, and yeah, knew Pink Diamond

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    ...huh?

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Yeah, actually, I don't think I actually proved any point there. It was on my mind for some reason. My bad.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    No, I mean
    when was it revealed that Jasper emerged during a fight with the crystal gems?

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Maybe I misheard, but in the new episode:
    Didn't Ruby say it while praising Jasper? Or maybe Ruby said it.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    I just remember her saying
    Jasper came out of the ground with her helmet on, like, as a metaphor for how battle ready she was. I didn't think she mentioned a battle with the Cystal Gems.

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    TheySlashThemTheySlashThem Registered User regular
    not in the middle of a battle, she said it was during the war

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    Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    I just remember her saying
    Jasper came out of the ground with her helmet on, like, as a metaphor for how battle ready she was. I didn't think she mentioned a battle with the Cystal Gems.
    She mentions that she killed 30 crystal gems before sun down.

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    It wasn't "She came out of the ground with her helmet and defeated 80 Crystal Gems?" Maybe I'm conflating things but I remember something like that.

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    Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver You don't have to attend every argument you are invited to. Philosophy: Stoicism. Politics: Democratic SocialistRegistered User, ClubPA regular
    It wasn't "She came out of the ground with her helmet and defeated 80 Crystal Gems?" Maybe I'm conflating things but I remember something like that.

    Right,
    but there was no indication from her that there was an actual battle at the kindergarten when she emerged.

    And hearing her, it sounds just like obvious hyperbole of heroic efforts by the homeworld champion. Born with a spear in hand and killed a thousand men before breakfast type of thing.

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    GundiGundi Serious Bismuth Registered User regular
    I just remember her saying
    Jasper came out of the ground with her helmet on, like, as a metaphor for how battle ready she was. I didn't think she mentioned a battle with the Cystal Gems.
    Well it definitely happened once fighting had already started. And had been going on for long enough for extensive damage to local infrastructure to be a problem. Probably not literally with the beta kindergarten under attack though.

    Likewise, the fact that Jasper cares so much about losing her diamond implies that she, you know, knew her diamond. (or of her, at the very least) So that implies Rose shattered Pink Diamond long after the rebellion started since she shattered her after the beta kindergarten was completed.

    Rough timeline hypothesis:
    1. Pink Diamond starts colony on Earth.
    2. Rose is created.
    3. Something, who knows what, causes Rose to be willing to turn her back on literally her entire culture and stated purpose to follow her ideals.
    4. Rebellion starts.
    5. Garnet joins the rebellion. Other diamonds are on Earth. (Blue, and probably the rest as well.)
    6. ???
    7. Rose shatters Pink Diamond
    8. The other diamonds GTFO
    9. They set off corruption... bomb... thing.
    10. ???
    11. Amethyst comes out of her hole. (It's Amethyst sized.)
    5007. Greg

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    Dr. FlamingoDr. Flamingo 49 Gilded Disc Perceives the Sun Registered User regular
    Did Amethyst
    Emerge before or after the corruption? Does not being born yet shield you from that? And she was the only one to not emerge with the others?

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