Why get a charmer set when Sakura farm gives just as many charms
Because it's the Blue Guild armor and it looks fabulous.
You can get slightly more charms with a Charmer set eating for Explorer and Farcaster'ing out than you can by just running out, mining coal, and coming back. Over 10 trials of each, I got something like 12 or 14 more charms in the same amount of time (if you recalculate it based on time spent vs. charms obtained). Also, you get a LOT more Shining Charms, which is useful given that there are several skills that don't even exist on Timeworn Charms (Perception, for example).
I really...really want the Black armor set and a good pierce bow. I just...I die too easily using Rapid and Spread shots.
I think for now I'm going to upgrade my Lightning bow because I like the way it looks.
EDIT oh shiiii alatreon bow plz giev
There's no appreciable difference in hunting with Rapid and Piercing shots for a bow, really. The Pierce shot critical distance is, at most, one more backhop of distance away from you, and the critical distance is recalculated for each individual pierce hit, making it very unlikely that you'll get critical distance for all of the Pierce hits unless you are scrapping at Spread distance anyway (3 backhops or about 2 rolls).
If you REALLY want to pursue the Piercing shot lifestyle, you should probably go with a bowgun. More accurate, more powerful, and longer critical distance (especially for higher level Pierces). Not to mention the built-in Piercing Element shots that a lot of bowguns have.
Even though I joked about it earlier, I'm really uninterested in Bowgun hunting
LBG seems alright, but I much prefer the feel of Bows
Why get a charmer set when Sakura farm gives just as many charms
Because it's the Blue Guild armor and it looks fabulous.
You can get slightly more charms with a Charmer set eating for Explorer and Farcaster'ing out than you can by just running out, mining coal, and coming back. Over 10 trials of each, I got something like 12 or 14 more charms in the same amount of time (if you recalculate it based on time spent vs. charms obtained). Also, you get a LOT more Shining Charms, which is useful given that there are several skills that don't even exist on Timeworn Charms (Perception, for example).
Played through this up to the hunt all 4 new dudes in Village, exclusively using Aerial Swaxe. It's a bit weird, that every fight plays out exactly the same way and in less time than my CB hunts took in 4U? It's kind of broken the reward loop of actually getting better and fighting new things.
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By the name of all things Palico how the HELL do I break off those Mitzu claws? I need a dozen or more now.
By the name of all things Palico how the HELL do I break off those Mitzu claws? I need a dozen or more now.
the short answer is realistically you don't and any mizu claws you're going to get are from end of hunt rewards
if you're dead set on it better make a destroyer setup or something.
Or carves. It's a 20% carve from LR Mizu. The LR village quest gives 6% for 2 from both main and sub rewards, and the subquest is just break head - much easier.
Honestly, 22 min for a solo hunt against multiplayer scaling is fine.
Like, you can definitely do it much faster, but my normal target for that kind of fight is 15-20 anyways. They're going to more or less take twice as long as offline due to extra health and reduced damage.
Or you can cheese shit hard with min-maxed shenanigans that let you drop G-rank endgame stuff solo in like 2 min, but...
I found I could sub in Alecunath S for helm and arms to get a sort of Toka lite. It's not bad and will hold me over.
I always intended to sub out the helm anyway to drop Ele Crit and pick up another skill in it's stead.
Hmmm. . . There's a mix that will give me Antivirus, Mushromancer, Chain Crit, and Crit Boost.
*drools*
Yep. Only needs one more accolade for the Toka gloves and then I need to build Gore S helm and Silver Sol chest.
I have everything else for it.
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Gore s
Silver solmail
Toka
Toka
Toka
+5 Frenzy resist 3 slot.
if you didn't want frenzy resist your helm+charm option would depend on your charm. You could probably build it out a few different ways depending on what skills you wanted instead.
edit: remember antivirus is solely there to boost affinity off of the Frenzy Body art.
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Question for the thread. It's been established that I'm bad at MonHun.
Given that, is soloing the Guild lagiacrus in 22 minutes bad? If so how do I get better?
I hit most of my arrow shots with at least level 3 charges, if not power shots, and most were at critical distance.
I didn't bring bombs or traps though, because I expected him to be a pushover. I didn't cart but it took, like I said, super long.
Using Redhelm lvl7 and a level 3 Teo bow for reference. (with mushroomancer)
Improving at bow really means learning where the Shot weakpoints are and aiming relentlessly for those places. For Lagiacrus, it's the head > neck > hind legs. Shots that hit the body will do around half the damage of hitting the head.
I was very focused on trying to maintain 100% affinity all the time for a while there with my builds but I think going with this mix has some advantages.
It's still high crit (65%-70%) with burst potential up to 95-100% but has the ability to give me Mushromancer or any other situational 5 gem utility skill.
Edit: crit numbers based on the fact I am using the Narga lance(40%) with it.
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Hmmm I forgot I built the Aelucanth S blademaster set a bit ago in my quest to make all the bug armors.
I think I can get this to at least Critical Eye +3 and crit boost, but I don't know if I'll have the slots for anything else. Maybe I'll make the Insectiscythes after all, just for the two slots
Honestly, for a similar reason I might upgrade the Twin Chainsaws to the Guillotines instead of the Golem's saws. I lose a decent amount of Raw and the sharpness is harder to get to white (although it has longer blue and green), but I'd rather have the two slots so I can get to 5 open slots when using Deviant armors
Hmmm I forgot I built the Aelucanth S blademaster set a bit ago in my quest to make all the bug armors.
I think I can get this to at least Critical Eye +3 and crit boost, but I don't know if I'll have the slots for anything else. Maybe I'll make the Insectiscythes after all, just for the two slots
all you really need is an expert charm that's +5 or has 3 slots
I used Aelucanth S before i finished Silverwind for crit eye +3 and crit boost but obviously silverwind is superior even though it has lower defense due to freeing up a talisman slot and having evade +2/evade extend
Hmmm I forgot I built the Aelucanth S blademaster set a bit ago in my quest to make all the bug armors.
I think I can get this to at least Critical Eye +3 and crit boost, but I don't know if I'll have the slots for anything else. Maybe I'll make the Insectiscythes after all, just for the two slots
all you really need is an expert charm that's +5 or has 3 slots
I used Aelucanth S before i finished Silverwind for crit eye +3 and crit boost but obviously silverwind is superior even though it has lower defense due to freeing up a talisman slot and having evade +2/evade extend
I think I have a +6 expert charm, but I don't know how many slots it has.
Another open question for the thread- are any of the Nakarkos weapons worth it? Or armor from him?
I just...I love the crazy skeleton cuttlefish dragon but I'm not sure which weapon to use. I'm not the biggest fan of the skeletal bow, even though it looks rad
Whoa wait I just looked at all of the Nakarkos weapons....their fully upgraded forms aren't the strongest (about 190 raw and around 10 or so dragon) but jesus they all have two slots and a gigantic blue sharpness bar
Another open question for the thread- are any of the Nakarkos weapons worth it? Or armor from him?
I just...I love the crazy skeleton cuttlefish dragon but I'm not sure which weapon to use. I'm not the biggest fan of the skeletal bow, even though it looks rad
the skeletal hbg seems to be pretty good
also i made the hammer and ls, upgraded them to the astral versions because they look cool and have a ridiculous amount of blue sharpness
Another open question for the thread- are any of the Nakarkos weapons worth it? Or armor from him?
I just...I love the crazy skeleton cuttlefish dragon but I'm not sure which weapon to use. I'm not the biggest fan of the skeletal bow, even though it looks rad
the skeletal hbg seems to be pretty good
also i made the hammer and ls, upgraded them to the astral versions because they look cool and have a ridiculous amount of blue sharpness
Hmmm I might also make the astral armor set to play around with having Wolf's Maw gain a 1.2x duration and damage boost....if I can gem/talisman in Chain Crit it might be kind of fun....
Hmmm I might also make the astral armor set to play around with having Wolf's Maw gain a 1.2x duration and damage boost....if I can gem/talisman in Chain Crit it might be kind of fun....
Was it established that Wolf's Maw gets the 1.2 damage boost as well? I don't remember seeing anything online confirming this.
Hmmm I might also make the astral armor set to play around with having Wolf's Maw gain a 1.2x duration and damage boost....if I can gem/talisman in Chain Crit it might be kind of fun....
Was it established that Wolf's Maw gets the 1.2 damage boost as well? I don't remember seeing anything online confirming this.
I thought everything got the damage boost and duration boost? Even still, a duration increase is still nice.
With a fairly easy +7 expert charm (or +4 2 slot or whatever) I could do all Toka except the head and use Alecunth for it. Then get Crit Eye+2, Chain Crit, and Crit boost.
As optimal? no. Looking like a Bug Samurai does tend to add extra pro points to it's column towards it's consideration though.
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With a fairly easy +7 expert charm (or +4 2 slot or whatever) I could do all Toka except the head and use Alecunth for it. Then get Crit Eye+2, Chain Crit, and Crit boost.
As optimal? no. Looking like a Bug Samurai does tend to add extra pro points to it's column towards it's consideration though.
Does Hayabusa push that to +3? Bexause that seems good...
With a fairly easy +7 expert charm (or +4 2 slot or whatever) I could do all Toka except the head and use Alecunth for it. Then get Crit Eye+2, Chain Crit, and Crit boost.
As optimal? no. Looking like a Bug Samurai does tend to add extra pro points to it's column towards it's consideration though.
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You can get slightly more charms with a Charmer set eating for Explorer and Farcaster'ing out than you can by just running out, mining coal, and coming back. Over 10 trials of each, I got something like 12 or 14 more charms in the same amount of time (if you recalculate it based on time spent vs. charms obtained). Also, you get a LOT more Shining Charms, which is useful given that there are several skills that don't even exist on Timeworn Charms (Perception, for example).
Even though I joked about it earlier, I'm really uninterested in Bowgun hunting
LBG seems alright, but I much prefer the feel of Bows
Perception, specifically, is what I'm after
the blue guild set i have is gemmed for charmer + 15 and gathering +2
lotsa double timeworns and i often end the 4 mins with 10 in my inventory + the rewards, and gathering gets u the coals quicker
Have a gunner put it to sleep, then have everyone lay down a ton of bombs?
the short answer is realistically you don't and any mizu claws you're going to get are from end of hunt rewards
if you're dead set on it better make a destroyer setup or something.
Trap spam gooooo
I just want redhelm armor then I can move to other deviants....(and charm farm set)
Or carves. It's a 20% carve from LR Mizu. The LR village quest gives 6% for 2 from both main and sub rewards, and the subquest is just break head - much easier.
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discharge sword into shield
turn into axe
make axesplosions
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Now I'm now longer gated by ragehair, but by my own lowly hunter rank.
But the HR7 key quests look like such bullshit!
I always intended to sub out the helm anyway to drop Ele Crit and pick up another skill in it's stead.
Hmmm. . . There's a mix that will give me Antivirus, Mushromancer, Chain Crit, and Crit Boost.
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Given that, is soloing the Guild lagiacrus in 22 minutes bad? If so how do I get better?
I hit most of my arrow shots with at least level 3 charges, if not power shots, and most were at critical distance.
I didn't bring bombs or traps though, because I expected him to be a pushover. I didn't cart but it took, like I said, super long.
Using Redhelm lvl7 and a level 3 Teo bow for reference. (with mushroomancer)
Like, you can definitely do it much faster, but my normal target for that kind of fight is 15-20 anyways. They're going to more or less take twice as long as offline due to extra health and reduced damage.
Or you can cheese shit hard with min-maxed shenanigans that let you drop G-rank endgame stuff solo in like 2 min, but...
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*drools*
Yep. Only needs one more accolade for the Toka gloves and then I need to build Gore S helm and Silver Sol chest.
I have everything else for it.
edit:
Gore s
Silver solmail
Toka
Toka
Toka
+5 Frenzy resist 3 slot.
if you didn't want frenzy resist your helm+charm option would depend on your charm. You could probably build it out a few different ways depending on what skills you wanted instead.
edit: remember antivirus is solely there to boost affinity off of the Frenzy Body art.
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It's still high crit (65%-70%) with burst potential up to 95-100% but has the ability to give me Mushromancer or any other situational 5 gem utility skill.
Edit: crit numbers based on the fact I am using the Narga lance(40%) with it.
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I think I can get this to at least Critical Eye +3 and crit boost, but I don't know if I'll have the slots for anything else. Maybe I'll make the Insectiscythes after all, just for the two slots
all you really need is an expert charm that's +5 or has 3 slots
I used Aelucanth S before i finished Silverwind for crit eye +3 and crit boost but obviously silverwind is superior even though it has lower defense due to freeing up a talisman slot and having evade +2/evade extend
I do have it mostly made (missing the helm) and I may finish and work on it if I ever pick up SnS again.
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I think I have a +6 expert charm, but I don't know how many slots it has.
Hero's Talisman is very limited in terms of options for what it is.
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I just...I love the crazy skeleton cuttlefish dragon but I'm not sure which weapon to use. I'm not the biggest fan of the skeletal bow, even though it looks rad
probably because if people could get it as a side skill on everything they would
I....want the long sword now
the skeletal hbg seems to be pretty good
also i made the hammer and ls, upgraded them to the astral versions because they look cool and have a ridiculous amount of blue sharpness
Yeah I really want that astral kataner
Not sure I'll use it much but that's a very pretty blue sharpness bar it has.
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I thought everything got the damage boost and duration boost? Even still, a duration increase is still nice.
As optimal? no. Looking like a Bug Samurai does tend to add extra pro points to it's column towards it's consideration though.
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Does Hayabusa push that to +3? Bexause that seems good...
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