With a fairly easy +7 expert charm (or +4 2 slot or whatever) I could do all Toka except the head and use Alecunth for it. Then get Crit Eye+2, Chain Crit, and Crit boost.
As optimal? no. Looking like a Bug Samurai does tend to add extra pro points to it's column towards it's consideration though.
Does Hayabusa push that to +3? Bexause that seems good...
Yes. it would be a placeholder to up it to +3 with Hyabusa. It's actually really good. I can even get it and antivirus with the right mix but that is just being silly.
edit: I'd then only need an expert+5 then. or some variation. A decent enough charm and I could maybe pull off a 4th skill.
Seidkona on
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
Also historically a lot of samurai would style their armor around insects like dragonflies, mantises, and beetles so
~~~historical accuracy~~~
+3
AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
So... what happens if I have Insight, a deviant weapon, and hit hyper parts? Does that all stack for silly fast gains?
I don't use deviant weapons that often, but I can confirm that Insight + Hyper targeting is some nonsense. And I use Wolf's Maw 2, which is crazy slow to charge but IIRC I can still usually get it activated at least twice on a single enemy when in a group, sometimes 3+ solo.
Is it just me, or does this game have way too many alternative armor sets? Most of them don't even do anything different than their base form, they just have the same skills mixed differently. I suppose you could get some crazy optimization out of it, but for the most part it's just a pointlessly confusing wall of stats, and kind of trivializes the reward for getting EX or hyper parts.
Is it just me, or does this game have way too many alternative armor sets? Most of them don't even do anything different than their base form, they just have the same skills mixed differently. I suppose you could get some crazy optimization out of it, but for the most part it's just a pointlessly confusing wall of stats, and kind of trivializes the reward for getting EX or hyper parts.
No, man. YOU'RE the one that's wrong! What is this heresy? Too many armor sets? Pah!
Well if 3/4ths of the armor sets they offered us weren't nerfed to hell with no slots and only half of their usual skills...
Nah, the armor is comparable to Low Rank and High Rank armor sets from previous games. They are on-par with armor sets you'd build in MHF2 and MH Tri. G-Rank armors are pretty insane, with huge amounts of customization. The Ultimate/G series of games pretty much spoils you in that regard.
+1
Orphanerivers of redthat run to seaRegistered Userregular
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Well if 3/4ths of the armor sets they offered us weren't nerfed to hell with no slots and only half of their usual skills...
Nah, the armor is comparable to Low Rank and High Rank armor sets from previous games. They are on-par with armor sets you'd build in MHF2 and MH Tri. G-Rank armors are pretty insane, with huge amounts of customization. The Ultimate/G series of games pretty much spoils you in that regard.
My experience with the series begins at 3U. I have never seen armors this... plain, even at LR/HR.
Well if 3/4ths of the armor sets they offered us weren't nerfed to hell with no slots and only half of their usual skills...
Nah, the armor is comparable to Low Rank and High Rank armor sets from previous games. They are on-par with armor sets you'd build in MHF2 and MH Tri. G-Rank armors are pretty insane, with huge amounts of customization. The Ultimate/G series of games pretty much spoils you in that regard.
My experience with the series begins at 3U. I have never seen armors this... plain, even at LR/HR.
For G/U series of games, 3 skills at Low Rank, 4 skills at High Rank, and 4 strong skills at G-rank are the norm, with many sockets. For the non-G/U games, it's more like 2 skills at Low Rank and 3 skills at High Rank.
Well if 3/4ths of the armor sets they offered us weren't nerfed to hell with no slots and only half of their usual skills...
Nah, the armor is comparable to Low Rank and High Rank armor sets from previous games. They are on-par with armor sets you'd build in MHF2 and MH Tri. G-Rank armors are pretty insane, with huge amounts of customization. The Ultimate/G series of games pretty much spoils you in that regard.
My experience with the series begins at 3U. I have never seen armors this... plain, even at LR/HR.
For G/U series of games, 3 skills at Low Rank, 4 skills at High Rank, and 4 strong skills at G-rank are the norm, with many sockets. For the non-G/U games, it's more like 2 skills at Low Rank and 3 skills at High Rank.
I feel like 4u sort of over did it with what you could build. 5-7 skill sets were definitely possible and I felt like it was overkill there.
Seidkona on
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
0
AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Base, one rank from finished (but the stats didn't look super-encouraging if I did finish it). It's clear I don't want to go over to Novagio; the bump in Blast isn't big enough.
I wasn't expecting to need Sharpness +2 to Hammer but I guess that's a thing I'll look into once I finish-finish the GUnlance set.
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Base, one rank from finished. It's clear I don't want to go over to Novagio; the bump in Blast isn't big enough.
I wasn't expecting to need Sharpness +2 to Hammer but I guess that's a thing I'll look into once I finish-finish the GUnlance set.
Doesn't Hammer have a variety of moves that don't bounce? Or was that taken out? I haven't messed with Hammer in this one.
0
AuralynxDarkness is a perspectiveWatching the ego workRegistered Userregular
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Base, one rank from finished. It's clear I don't want to go over to Novagio; the bump in Blast isn't big enough.
I wasn't expecting to need Sharpness +2 to Hammer but I guess that's a thing I'll look into once I finish-finish the GUnlance set.
Doesn't Hammer have a variety of moves that don't bounce? Or was that taken out? I haven't messed with Hammer in this one.
It does, yeah. The Brach one has a sliver of blue at the level I've got it and not a ton without Handicraft.
Hammer's kind of a sideline for me though I'm starting to see that some monsters are just obviously going to be a ton easier with Adept Hammer than they ever will with Gunlance.
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Base, one rank from finished. It's clear I don't want to go over to Novagio; the bump in Blast isn't big enough.
I wasn't expecting to need Sharpness +2 to Hammer but I guess that's a thing I'll look into once I finish-finish the GUnlance set.
Doesn't Hammer have a variety of moves that don't bounce? Or was that taken out? I haven't messed with Hammer in this one.
It does, yeah. The Brach one has a sliver of blue at the level I've got it and not a ton without Handicraft.
Hammer's kind of a sideline for me though I'm starting to see that some monsters are just obviously going to be a ton easier with Adept Hammer than they ever will with Gunlance.
I am a huge fan of the Seregios Hammer.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
0
ZanshinretsuAbout 20% more deathstareSeattle, WARegistered Userregular
Another open question for the thread- are any of the Nakarkos weapons worth it? Or armor from him?
I just...I love the crazy skeleton cuttlefish dragon but I'm not sure which weapon to use. I'm not the biggest fan of the skeletal bow, even though it looks rad
I just upgraded the Astral Gunlance to the second to last tier thanks to the run we did earlier. It's got a massive chunk of blue sharpness which means I get to shell all day long. The hammer looks awesome and I'll probably end up making that too.
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Base, one rank from finished. It's clear I don't want to go over to Novagio; the bump in Blast isn't big enough.
I wasn't expecting to need Sharpness +2 to Hammer but I guess that's a thing I'll look into once I finish-finish the GUnlance set.
Doesn't Hammer have a variety of moves that don't bounce? Or was that taken out? I haven't messed with Hammer in this one.
It does, yeah. The Brach one has a sliver of blue at the level I've got it and not a ton without Handicraft.
Hammer's kind of a sideline for me though I'm starting to see that some monsters are just obviously going to be a ton easier with Adept Hammer than they ever will with Gunlance.
I am a huge fan of the Seregios Hammer.
I love the GL for the Long 4 shells and the self-sharpening; the RAW on Matraca seems kind of bad, though.
I realize Hammer + sharpness doesn't really intersect much, but what's a solid generic "This thing hits hard and doesn't bounce" option for Hammer? That Brachydios one is not cutting it.
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Base, one rank from finished. It's clear I don't want to go over to Novagio; the bump in Blast isn't big enough.
I wasn't expecting to need Sharpness +2 to Hammer but I guess that's a thing I'll look into once I finish-finish the GUnlance set.
Doesn't Hammer have a variety of moves that don't bounce? Or was that taken out? I haven't messed with Hammer in this one.
It does, yeah. The Brach one has a sliver of blue at the level I've got it and not a ton without Handicraft.
Hammer's kind of a sideline for me though I'm starting to see that some monsters are just obviously going to be a ton easier with Adept Hammer than they ever will with Gunlance.
I am a huge fan of the Seregios Hammer.
I love the GL for the Long 4 shells and the self-sharpening; the RAW on Matraca seems kind of bad, though.
High sharpness plus the fact that with adept style you are rolling a lot so keeping it sharp with the roll sharpen. . . Yeah, it's pretty great.
Seidkona on
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
0
Dr. ChaosPost nuclear nuisanceRegistered Userregular
edited August 2016
Despite not being much of a challenge with infinite continues, I liked the way the final caravan quest was set up in MH4U.
Would be nice in future games to see them explore creating hunter party members/NPCs with stories you could recruit and take out on hunts.
I think the biggest problem with armor in MH games is that there are just so many that you will never equip or make unless you are just trying to get 1 of everything. When there is a choice between AuL or recovery speed, you probably aren't going to take recovery speed. Since making and upgrading armor is so expensive without endlessly farming charms and shards or something, making useless armor is actually a detriment to completing actually good armor.
Damn Khezu, drop more than one Thunder Sac at a time.
Things are rolling along though. Fighting guys like Malfestio and Khezu means my tradeoff of raw Def for Guard Up is worthwhile when Malfestio does its Hypno Beam and then you're the only one in the party not yelling "I'm in trouble!"
Likewise Khezu, at least once i remember that he always does that stupid discharge twice in a row. Keep getting punked by that.
I got everything but the helm for Toka made last night which is fine because I don't really intend to use the helm.
Critical Boost really is pretty crazy and just melts monster faces.
edit: With this setup CE+3 is even possible with a really good expert charm without using Hyabusa. so CE+3, Chain Crit, Crit boost with 622 def. Hyabusa just makes it possible without anything special in the charm department.
Seidkona on
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
I got everything but the helm for Toka made last night which is fine because I don't really intend to use the helm.
Critical Boost really is pretty crazy and just melts monster faces.
edit: With this setup CE+3 is even possible with a really good expert charm without using Hyabusa. so CE+3, Chain Crit, Crit boost with 622 def. Hyabusa just makes it possible without anything special in the charm department.
Jeeeesus this makes me want to start this quest chain
I got everything but the helm for Toka made last night which is fine because I don't really intend to use the helm.
Critical Boost really is pretty crazy and just melts monster faces.
edit: With this setup CE+3 is even possible with a really good expert charm without using Hyabusa. so CE+3, Chain Crit, Crit boost with 622 def. Hyabusa just makes it possible without anything special in the charm department.
Jeeeesus this makes me want to start this quest chain
It was a pain in my ass but worth it.
You'll need to HR break to do it fully.
Right now I am running Antivirus, Chain Crit, and Crit Boost as a placeholder until I can get an expert charm that does not suck. (I could replace Antivirus with CE+1 but that's sort of silly)
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
I got everything but the helm for Toka made last night which is fine because I don't really intend to use the helm.
Critical Boost really is pretty crazy and just melts monster faces.
edit: With this setup CE+3 is even possible with a really good expert charm without using Hyabusa. so CE+3, Chain Crit, Crit boost with 622 def. Hyabusa just makes it possible without anything special in the charm department.
Jeeeesus this makes me want to start this quest chain
It was a pain in my ass but worth it.
You'll need to HR break to do it fully.
Right now I am running Antivirus, Chain Crit, and Crit Boost as a placeholder until I can get an expert charm that does not suck. (I could replace Antivirus with CE+1 but that's sort of silly)
What a coinci-dink. We helped Arch break his HR last night! It unlocked to a respectable 47.
Last night was full of ADVENTURE. The last quest Auralynx was on, Entaru was shut in the arena by the fence switch, stuck with both an Uragaan and Yian Garuga. I couldn't let him have all the ADVENTURE, so I Farcastered out and ran in to join in the "fun". I'm pretty sure the hunters on the other side of the fence were sending lifepowders our way while they were waiting for the fence to go down. Shortly after that in the same quest, Auralynx DC'ed. SO much ADVENTURE.
Later that evening, Orphane and Frosteey attempted to parry Narkakos's megalaser with a LS Hunter Art. It... did not go as planned.
The last quest Auralynx was on, Entaru was shut in the arena by the fence switch, stuck with both an Uragaan and Yian Garuga. I couldn't let him have all the ADVENTURE, so I Farcastered out and ran in to join in the "fun". I'm pretty sure the hunters on the other side of the fence were sending lifepowders our way while they were waiting for the fence to go down.
We were indeed. Amusingly I got Cool Cat from the bistro so I was able to Kick Back while waiting and got an attack bonus when the gate finally came down.
And then the network abandoned us just after we finished the quest. I returned to an empty hub!
I got everything but the helm for Toka made last night which is fine because I don't really intend to use the helm.
Critical Boost really is pretty crazy and just melts monster faces.
edit: With this setup CE+3 is even possible with a really good expert charm without using Hyabusa. so CE+3, Chain Crit, Crit boost with 622 def. Hyabusa just makes it possible without anything special in the charm department.
With Crit Eye +3 and Chain crit you get 55% crit as soon as you hit an enemy, going to 60% after sustained attacks...which means with a narga weapon you can hit 95-100% crit with crit boost. Seems pretty nice for an all-out offensive set.
I got everything but the helm for Toka made last night which is fine because I don't really intend to use the helm.
Critical Boost really is pretty crazy and just melts monster faces.
edit: With this setup CE+3 is even possible with a really good expert charm without using Hyabusa. so CE+3, Chain Crit, Crit boost with 622 def. Hyabusa just makes it possible without anything special in the charm department.
With Crit Eye +3 and Chain crit you get 55% crit as soon as you hit an enemy, going to 60% after sustained attacks...which means with a narga weapon you can hit 95-100% crit with crit boost. Seems pretty nice for an all-out offensive set.
I am currently running the Narga lance with it so when all is said and done I will be running at that 95-100% crit rate with it.
At that point I can say that my primary setup is done and maybe work on other setups to use. Work on some status lance setups after that and then pick up a new weapon.
Maybe Hunting Horn.
Mostly just huntin' monsters.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
Posts
Yes. it would be a placeholder to up it to +3 with Hyabusa. It's actually really good. I can even get it and antivirus with the right mix but that is just being silly.
edit: I'd then only need an expert+5 then. or some variation. A decent enough charm and I could maybe pull off a 4th skill.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
~~~historical accuracy~~~
*ba da dum tish*
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
I don't use deviant weapons that often, but I can confirm that Insight + Hyper targeting is some nonsense. And I use Wolf's Maw 2, which is crazy slow to charge but IIRC I can still usually get it activated at least twice on a single enemy when in a group, sometimes 3+ solo.
AC:NH Chris from Glosta SW-5173-3598-2899 DA-4749-1014-4697
AC:NH Chris from Glosta SW-5173-3598-2899 DA-4749-1014-4697
which brachydios one? with sharpness +2 the base brachy hamer (not the novagio demolisher) gets an extremely solid chunk of white sharpness
Just makes you work a bit harder to get a mix you like with the knowledge you need to probably take opportunity cost into consideration a lot more.
I actually like it more pared back like this.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
My experience with the series begins at 3U. I have never seen armors this... plain, even at LR/HR.
AC:NH Chris from Glosta SW-5173-3598-2899 DA-4749-1014-4697
i really like the garuga greatbow for both looks and the fact that it has a poison boost
I feel like 4u sort of over did it with what you could build. 5-7 skill sets were definitely possible and I felt like it was overkill there.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
Base, one rank from finished (but the stats didn't look super-encouraging if I did finish it). It's clear I don't want to go over to Novagio; the bump in Blast isn't big enough.
I wasn't expecting to need Sharpness +2 to Hammer but I guess that's a thing I'll look into once I finish-finish the GUnlance set.
It does, yeah. The Brach one has a sliver of blue at the level I've got it and not a ton without Handicraft.
Hammer's kind of a sideline for me though I'm starting to see that some monsters are just obviously going to be a ton easier with Adept Hammer than they ever will with Gunlance.
I am a huge fan of the Seregios Hammer.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
I just upgraded the Astral Gunlance to the second to last tier thanks to the run we did earlier. It's got a massive chunk of blue sharpness which means I get to shell all day long. The hammer looks awesome and I'll probably end up making that too.
PSN: Zanshiretsu <-- misspelled because I am dumb.
I love the GL for the Long 4 shells and the self-sharpening; the RAW on Matraca seems kind of bad, though.
High sharpness plus the fact that with adept style you are rolling a lot so keeping it sharp with the roll sharpen. . . Yeah, it's pretty great.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
Would be nice in future games to see them explore creating hunter party members/NPCs with stories you could recruit and take out on hunts.
Steam: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004484595
Specifically talk to the blacksmiths from 4U: Lil' Miss Forge, The Man, and the chief of Harth (LMF's dad).
AC:NH Chris from Glosta SW-5173-3598-2899 DA-4749-1014-4697
Things are rolling along though. Fighting guys like Malfestio and Khezu means my tradeoff of raw Def for Guard Up is worthwhile when Malfestio does its Hypno Beam and then you're the only one in the party not yelling "I'm in trouble!"
Likewise Khezu, at least once i remember that he always does that stupid discharge twice in a row. Keep getting punked by that.
Critical Boost really is pretty crazy and just melts monster faces.
edit: With this setup CE+3 is even possible with a really good expert charm without using Hyabusa. so CE+3, Chain Crit, Crit boost with 622 def. Hyabusa just makes it possible without anything special in the charm department.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
Jeeeesus this makes me want to start this quest chain
It was a pain in my ass but worth it.
You'll need to HR break to do it fully.
Right now I am running Antivirus, Chain Crit, and Crit Boost as a placeholder until I can get an expert charm that does not suck. (I could replace Antivirus with CE+1 but that's sort of silly)
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
Last night was full of ADVENTURE. The last quest Auralynx was on, Entaru was shut in the arena by the fence switch, stuck with both an Uragaan and Yian Garuga. I couldn't let him have all the ADVENTURE, so I Farcastered out and ran in to join in the "fun". I'm pretty sure the hunters on the other side of the fence were sending lifepowders our way while they were waiting for the fence to go down. Shortly after that in the same quest, Auralynx DC'ed. SO much ADVENTURE.
Later that evening, Orphane and Frosteey attempted to parry Narkakos's megalaser with a LS Hunter Art. It... did not go as planned.
We were indeed. Amusingly I got Cool Cat from the bistro so I was able to Kick Back while waiting and got an attack bonus when the gate finally came down.
And then the network abandoned us just after we finished the quest. I returned to an empty hub!
AC:NH Chris from Glosta SW-5173-3598-2899 DA-4749-1014-4697
Joyous day.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm
I felt good about whacking the tail off that Garuga with Blast Dash once the gate went down, as well.
With Crit Eye +3 and Chain crit you get 55% crit as soon as you hit an enemy, going to 60% after sustained attacks...which means with a narga weapon you can hit 95-100% crit with crit boost. Seems pretty nice for an all-out offensive set.
I am currently running the Narga lance with it so when all is said and done I will be running at that 95-100% crit rate with it.
At that point I can say that my primary setup is done and maybe work on other setups to use. Work on some status lance setups after that and then pick up a new weapon.
Maybe Hunting Horn.
XBL:Phenyhelm - 3DS:Phenyhelm