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[PC Build Thread] NVIDIA can't stop releasing GPUs like Oprah can't stop releasing bees

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    Yeah, not really sure. It may work, but that supported refresh rate is sad face :( From what I'm seeing decent Dual-Link DVI to DP converters are 100 bucks or more.

    The issue looks like the converter needs to be active to get the proper refresh rates.

    I....may have a solution but I have to go home first. I have a Dual Link DVI adapter I no longer need. I'll post a pic later.

  • HugglesHuggles Cinnabar is very toxic Not very huggableRegistered User regular
    I didn't see this mentioned in the thread, but given how close AMD and NVidia cards are these days, for anyone who cares about these things you can no longer use GFE to keep drivers up-to-date without a login (either Google account, Facebook or a GFE account, which doesn't sync with their forums?). As someone who has no use for any other function of GFE, I found this astronomically irritating - there's no reason for them to need any of that from me in order to keep my drivers up to date, and the rest of GFE is really just system bloat to me.

    Not really a tech issue, more of an FYI to anyone this sort of thing would be a deciding factor, all else equal. It otherwise works fine, seems like there could be some useful tools if you don't mind the hassle.

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  • BlazeFireBlazeFire Registered User regular
    Huggles wrote: »
    I didn't see this mentioned in the thread, but given how close AMD and NVidia cards are these days, for anyone who cares about these things you can no longer use GFE to keep drivers up-to-date without a login (either Google account, Facebook or a GFE account, which doesn't sync with their forums?). As someone who has no use for any other function of GFE, I found this astronomically irritating - there's no reason for them to need any of that from me in order to keep my drivers up to date, and the rest of GFE is really just system bloat to me.

    Not really a tech issue, more of an FYI to anyone this sort of thing would be a deciding factor, all else equal. It otherwise works fine, seems like there could be some useful tools if you don't mind the hassle.

    I uninstalled GFE on Saturday because of that. Stupid decision. I'll manually download drivers. Whatever.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Oh shit. Oh shit.

    I went to Nowinstock, and looked up the motherboard I've been waiting on.

    It was in stock at Newegg.

    It has now been ordered, with 3 day shipping and expedited processing.

    As soon as I can confirm that it's on its way, everything else is getting ordered.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    @GnomeTank - any advice on using the IC Diamond?

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Get over yourself. Registered User regular
    So who's going to be the guinea pig and buy the new LG 4k HDR QDOT monitor?

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    Open the pod bay doors, HAL.

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  • Mace1370Mace1370 Registered User regular
    Damn that is an awesome computer.

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    i'm in love

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  • BouwsTBouwsT Wanna come to a super soft birthday party? Registered User regular
    Dhalphir wrote: »
    i'm in love

    Agreed. I think that's just about my favorite PC i've seen to date. How can something look so clean and understated, yet still just OOZE opulence? I'll tell you how... (insert Dolce & Gabana whiser) Crystalized...

    Only one question I care about though. Will it run Crysis?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    And the order is reporting as being in packaging. Also, they're sold out again.

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  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    the inscription on the backplate appears to say


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  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    how much is that setup, $1000 itself for all the hydro and case stuff?

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    And everything else is now ordered and on the way. Eep.

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  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    how do you even do liquid cooling like that, with static tubes, gosh that'd be a nightmare if you ever needed to replace components

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    how do you even do liquid cooling like that, with static tubes, gosh that'd be a nightmare if you ever needed to replace components

    Custom builds like that aren't really intended to be upgraded.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    And then some dust gets on the inside and drives you absolutely nuts.

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  • CormacCormac Registered User regular
    Here's the build thread http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=163990

    I spent far too much time trying to figure out where he hid the SSD until I realized he used a M2 drive.

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  • BloodycowBloodycow Registered User regular
    The lack of motherboard IO plate is bothering me though.......

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    Bloodycow wrote: »
    The lack of motherboard IO plate is bothering me though.......

    I think he created a custom one out of the same clear acrylic the rest of the case is made of, you can see that the section around there is a separate piece.

  • KarlKarl Registered User regular
    DAT CABLE MANAGEMENT THO

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  • bowenbowen ayyyyyyyy Registered User regular
    how do you make custom acrylic like that

    I've always wondered that

    like I've gotten acrylic at like home depot and cut it with dremels and shit but it never looks anywhere near that clean

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  • zerzhulzerzhul Registered User, Moderator mod
    bowen wrote: »
    how do you make custom acrylic like that

    I've always wondered that

    like I've gotten acrylic at like home depot and cut it with dremels and shit but it never looks anywhere near that clean
    Laser cut, either from a vendor or at a maker shop.

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    JayzTwoCents does that kind of acrylic work. He cuts it to length, then uses a torch to soften the acrylic so he can bend it. And, yeah, you basically have to cut and bend new tubing any time you have anything go wrong.

    For example, he had an issue where an orange dye he was using was starting to slowly turn brown; so he had to make multiple runs of rigid tubing while he was investigating the root cause.


    I think for the physical tube cutting, he uses some sort of blade vice a Dremel. As in, I don't think you can use anything that is reciprocating or rotating if you want to truly clean cut. So something like a plumber's tubing cutter (made for copper).

  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    If I was going to go so far as that kind of custom work, I'd have it embedded into a desk rather than have an external box.

  • rpshoggothrpshoggoth Registered User regular
    Hey folks, started digging into pcpartpicker and my head exploded. And THEN a friend started talking about m2 drives. I have arooooound $2500 to spend on a new ground up build + monitor. Could go as high as 3k if the experience improvement is "worth" it, but wouldn't be ashamed if I got an awesome rig for 2k, if that makes sense. I've been putting off the build for about 3 years, because we have 4 kids and 15 pets, and every bonus check I've gotten goes to braces or vet bills or dance class or arglebarglebargle. But now I can't run directX 12 or play any of the new hotness and I'm sad.

    My current main system is from a 6 year old build that I've managed to breath life into with ssd and vid card updates.

    I'm capable of assembling everything myself, although this would be my first foray into the world of liquid cooling. On the upside, it seems they've made the simpler levels of liquid idiot proof, so that's nice.

    That said, I wouldn't turn my nose up at shelling out a couple bucks for a reputable place that does builds to have someone who does this all day erry day do it, as they say.

    Can I trouble you fine, knowledgeable people for some handholding?

  • Ed GrubermanEd Gruberman Registered User regular
    rpshoggoth wrote: »
    Hey folks, started digging into pcpartpicker and my head exploded. And THEN a friend started talking about m2 drives. I have arooooound $2500 to spend on a new ground up build + monitor. Could go as high as 3k if the experience improvement is "worth" it, but wouldn't be ashamed if I got an awesome rig for 2k, if that makes sense. I've been putting off the build for about 3 years, because we have 4 kids and 15 pets, and every bonus check I've gotten goes to braces or vet bills or dance class or arglebarglebargle. But now I can't run directX 12 or play any of the new hotness and I'm sad.

    My current main system is from a 6 year old build that I've managed to breath life into with ssd and vid card updates.

    I'm capable of assembling everything myself, although this would be my first foray into the world of liquid cooling. On the upside, it seems they've made the simpler levels of liquid idiot proof, so that's nice.

    That said, I wouldn't turn my nose up at shelling out a couple bucks for a reputable place that does builds to have someone who does this all day erry day do it, as they say.

    Can I trouble you fine, knowledgeable people for some handholding?

    Just to confirm, I assume those are American $, right? Because you should be able to get pretty beastly rig in at that price point.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Get over yourself. Registered User regular
    While hard tubing looks good, it's really more for astetics then anything else. It's very time consuming and easy to screw up.

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  • rpshoggothrpshoggoth Registered User regular
    Just to confirm, I assume those are American $, right? Because you should be able to get pretty beastly rig in at that price point.

    Yep, that's $US

    Since I'm probably not going to be doing this again for another 4 or 5 years, I'm hoping to put together something I get get some real miles on.

  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    rpshoggoth wrote: »
    Just to confirm, I assume those are American $, right? Because you should be able to get pretty beastly rig in at that price point.

    Yep, that's $US

    Since I'm probably not going to be doing this again for another 4 or 5 years, I'm hoping to put together something I get get some real miles on.

    So this here is the computer I'm building right now (with a few differences, such as a larger SSD). Price is right around $2k.

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  • AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Also, the big thing with M.2 drives is that instead of interfacing through 6Gb/s SATA (which modern SSDs can saturate), they connect to the PCI-E bus, which gives them a blistering 22Gb/s throughput.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar Registered User regular
    Also, the big thing with M.2 drives is that instead of interfacing through 6Gb/s SATA (which modern SSDs can saturate), they connect to the PCI-E bus, which gives them a blistering 22Gb/s throughput.

    just a correction. They *can* interface via PCI-e. Or they *can* interface with SATA. M.2 is literally just a connector type and some drives/boards use SATA and some use PCI-e lanes. When you're buying you need to make sure on both the board and drive you buy the same ones. a sata based M.2 drive will plug into a PCI-e m.2 slot just fine.... it'll just never work.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    So I just got and installed my 1080 Ti, which I'm super excited about. However, two issues cropped up:

    1. My 1440 display isn't showing any resolution options above 1080p (it was running at 1440p on my 980 Ti). Wondering if this is related to the fact that I'm now using a DVI to Displayport adapter? But it seems unlikely.
    2. None of the devices plugged into my USB card are being recognized now.

    Any thoughts?

    Edit: #2 was the result of me jostling the USB card's power loose during card installation. Still dealing with #1 though.

    The adapter has to not just output a DVI signal, but a dual link DVI signal to get the higher resolutions.

    Now that I'm double checking the amazon listing that seems like it might be my issue. I can't seem to find one that supports 1440p, any suggestions?

    Edit: NVIDIA also packed in an adapter with the 1080 Ti that seems to have the same issue :?

    You probably figured this out already, but just go buy a DisplayPort cable. The adapter the 1080 Ti ships with is Single-Link, it can only do 1080p. For 1440p+ you either need a dual-link DVI to DP, or you can just use DP, which is really the recommended route if your monitor supports it (and I can't imagine a 1440p monitor without DisplayPort).

    My monitor only has DVI and VGA.

    https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-IPS-ZERO-G-Monitor-2560x1440-110509/dp/B00DIGC6GO

    I bought it in 2013, when nothing I had required DisplayPort or HDMI.

    I just bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0157RW0J4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and am desperately hoping it works despite mixed reviews, because otherwise I have to shell out $400 for a new monitor and I'd strongly prefer not to do that.

    If anyone else has had to solve this problem with adapters I'd really appreciate a link to what they used.

    So the cable I bought doesn't work. It doesn't do anything; no signal is detected. So, that sucks.

    I guess I'm in the market for a new monitor, but all of the options for 1440p+ are like $300-$500 :-/

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  • MugsleyMugsley Registered User regular
    So. I have THIS at home and unused. I used to have two of those same monitors, and I used this for a while to connect to one of them. You can have it if you want to give it a shot. I can't guarantee it'll solve your problems, but I know it still works. I honestly don't remember why I stopped using it; I think I ended up buying different cables that worked for the monitor.

  • TerrendosTerrendos Decorative Monocle Registered User regular
    The other thing about M.2 PCIE drives is that the performance difference compared to SATA in real-world applications is pretty minimal. I don't suggest wasting the money there.
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    So I just got and installed my 1080 Ti, which I'm super excited about. However, two issues cropped up:

    1. My 1440 display isn't showing any resolution options above 1080p (it was running at 1440p on my 980 Ti). Wondering if this is related to the fact that I'm now using a DVI to Displayport adapter? But it seems unlikely.
    2. None of the devices plugged into my USB card are being recognized now.

    Any thoughts?

    Edit: #2 was the result of me jostling the USB card's power loose during card installation. Still dealing with #1 though.

    The adapter has to not just output a DVI signal, but a dual link DVI signal to get the higher resolutions.

    Now that I'm double checking the amazon listing that seems like it might be my issue. I can't seem to find one that supports 1440p, any suggestions?

    Edit: NVIDIA also packed in an adapter with the 1080 Ti that seems to have the same issue :?

    You probably figured this out already, but just go buy a DisplayPort cable. The adapter the 1080 Ti ships with is Single-Link, it can only do 1080p. For 1440p+ you either need a dual-link DVI to DP, or you can just use DP, which is really the recommended route if your monitor supports it (and I can't imagine a 1440p monitor without DisplayPort).

    My monitor only has DVI and VGA.

    https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-IPS-ZERO-G-Monitor-2560x1440-110509/dp/B00DIGC6GO

    I bought it in 2013, when nothing I had required DisplayPort or HDMI.

    I just bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0157RW0J4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and am desperately hoping it works despite mixed reviews, because otherwise I have to shell out $400 for a new monitor and I'd strongly prefer not to do that.

    If anyone else has had to solve this problem with adapters I'd really appreciate a link to what they used.

    So the cable I bought doesn't work. It doesn't do anything; no signal is detected. So, that sucks.

    I guess I'm in the market for a new monitor, but all of the options for 1440p+ are like $300-$500 :-/

    My S2716DG monitor is fantastic, 144Hz with GSync with a very good TN panel. Often goes on sale for $500. With a 1080TI I can't recommend anything less. You're wasting your money on a 60Hz 1440p screen with that GPU.

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  • rpshoggothrpshoggoth Registered User regular
    Tossed this together after doing a bit of reading and looking around.

    Any thoughts?

    Also, what is the conventional wisdom regarding 4k vs ultrawide?

  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    You don't need 1000 watt power supply for that system. 750 would be fine. And it seems a shame to only have 500gb of SSD space in a system that powerful. Do you really need a 4Tb HDD?

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    edited March 21
    GnomeTank - any advice on using the IC Diamond?

    @AngelHedgie definitely don't try and credit card method the stuff, it's too sludgy for that (at least my last two tubes have been). I use the press-and-spread technique. Put a thin dollop the size of a US dime in the center of the CPU's heat spreader. You do not need a ton of this stuff, just enough that after the cooler is seated and exerts pressure that you have a thin, mostly uniform, layer between the cooler and the lid. Use the pressure of your CPU cooler going on to spread it out. Try and get the cooler to go down as evemly as possible, so the material spreads evenly. Then as you tighten down the fasteners do them evenly as well and cross tighten. If any excess comes out wipe it up with a paper towel and light isopropyl alcohol and let dry before turning your system on.

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  • RadiationRadiation Registered User regular
    Display port is the main jam now, correct? There's a decent KVM switch that I'm thinking would be nice to have for hooking up the work laptop.
    Wish it would do dual monitors, but what can you do?
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