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[PC Build Thread] NVIDIA can't stop releasing GPUs like Oprah can't stop releasing bees

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank Registered User regular
    HDMI and DisplayPort are the jam right now. If you want to be forward thinking USB-C is likely to become the all-in-wonder cable over the next few years. Since you can do things like run the display, transfer data and charge the laptop all from a single USB-C.

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  • Santa ClaustrophobiaSanta Claustrophobia Ho Ho Ho Disconnecting from Xbox LIVERegistered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    GnomeTank - any advice on using the IC Diamond?

    @AngelHedgie definitely don't try and credit card method the stuff, it's too sludgy for that (at least my last two tubes have been). I use the press-and-spread technique. Put a thin dollop the size of a US dime in the center of the CPU's heat spreader. You do not need a ton of this stuff, just enough that after the cooler is seated and exerts pressure that you have a thin, mostly uniform, layer between the cooler and the lid. Use the pressure of your CPU cooler going on to spread it out. Try and get the cooler to go down as evemly as possible, so the material spreads evenly. Then as you tighten down the fasteners do them evenly as well and cross tighten. If any excess comes out wipe it up with a paper towel and light isopropyl alcohol and let dry before turning your system on.

    And do not lift the cooler up to see how it spread unless you're doing it knowing you're going to clean everything up and do it again.

    As far as 'thin dollop the size of a US dime' goes, it's probably the equivalent of 'pea-sized' that lots of places talk about. Ultimately, a little goes a long way and too much is a hassle to end up dealing with. (If it squirts out the sides, definitely clean it up proper before running the system.)

    There are plenty of videos available showing different methods for application and while some are 'better', the effort to get it exactly right isn't quite worth it unless you intend to build a new system every other day just to get better at it. The small dollop, even pressure method is largely regarded as the most efficient method. And once you start running the system, there is a period where the paste almost self-spreads.

    GnomeTank
  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    HDMI and DisplayPort are the jam right now. If you want to be forward thinking USB-C is likely to become the all-in-wonder cable over the next few years. Since you can do things like run the display, transfer data and charge the laptop all from a single USB-C.

    it actually wouldn't surprise me at all if we see the next generation of nVidia/AMD cards (think the 11xx and the RX 5xx series) cards come with at least a few sku's that have 1 or more USB-C ports for video. We're already starting to see monitors with USB-C support. I could see it being very useful in low profile cards.

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  • GrundlestiltskinGrundlestiltskin Behind you!Registered User regular
    Terrendos wrote: »
    The other thing about M.2 PCIE drives is that the performance difference compared to SATA in real-world applications is pretty minimal. I don't suggest wasting the money there.
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    So I just got and installed my 1080 Ti, which I'm super excited about. However, two issues cropped up:

    1. My 1440 display isn't showing any resolution options above 1080p (it was running at 1440p on my 980 Ti). Wondering if this is related to the fact that I'm now using a DVI to Displayport adapter? But it seems unlikely.
    2. None of the devices plugged into my USB card are being recognized now.

    Any thoughts?

    Edit: #2 was the result of me jostling the USB card's power loose during card installation. Still dealing with #1 though.

    The adapter has to not just output a DVI signal, but a dual link DVI signal to get the higher resolutions.

    Now that I'm double checking the amazon listing that seems like it might be my issue. I can't seem to find one that supports 1440p, any suggestions?

    Edit: NVIDIA also packed in an adapter with the 1080 Ti that seems to have the same issue :?

    You probably figured this out already, but just go buy a DisplayPort cable. The adapter the 1080 Ti ships with is Single-Link, it can only do 1080p. For 1440p+ you either need a dual-link DVI to DP, or you can just use DP, which is really the recommended route if your monitor supports it (and I can't imagine a 1440p monitor without DisplayPort).

    My monitor only has DVI and VGA.

    https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-IPS-ZERO-G-Monitor-2560x1440-110509/dp/B00DIGC6GO

    I bought it in 2013, when nothing I had required DisplayPort or HDMI.

    I just bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0157RW0J4/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and am desperately hoping it works despite mixed reviews, because otherwise I have to shell out $400 for a new monitor and I'd strongly prefer not to do that.

    If anyone else has had to solve this problem with adapters I'd really appreciate a link to what they used.

    So the cable I bought doesn't work. It doesn't do anything; no signal is detected. So, that sucks.

    I guess I'm in the market for a new monitor, but all of the options for 1440p+ are like $300-$500 :-/

    My S2716DG monitor is fantastic, 144Hz with GSync with a very good TN panel. Often goes on sale for $500. With a 1080TI I can't recommend anything less. You're wasting your money on a 60Hz 1440p screen with that GPU.

    Thanks for the recommendation, ended up ordering one of these.

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  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    GnomeTank - any advice on using the IC Diamond?

    @AngelHedgie definitely don't try and credit card method the stuff, it's too sludgy for that (at least my last two tubes have been). I use the press-and-spread technique. Put a thin dollop the size of a US dime in the center of the CPU's heat spreader. You do not need a ton of this stuff, just enough that after the cooler is seated and exerts pressure that you have a thin, mostly uniform, layer between the cooler and the lid. Use the pressure of your CPU cooler going on to spread it out. Try and get the cooler to go down as evemly as possible, so the material spreads evenly. Then as you tighten down the fasteners do them evenly as well and cross tighten. If any excess comes out wipe it up with a paper towel and light isopropyl alcohol and let dry before turning your system on.

    And do not lift the cooler up to see how it spread unless you're doing it knowing you're going to clean everything up and do it again.

    As far as 'thin dollop the size of a US dime' goes, it's probably the equivalent of 'pea-sized' that lots of places talk about. Ultimately, a little goes a long way and too much is a hassle to end up dealing with. (If it squirts out the sides, definitely clean it up proper before running the system.)

    There are plenty of videos available showing different methods for application and while some are 'better', the effort to get it exactly right isn't quite worth it unless you intend to build a new system every other day just to get better at it. The small dollop, even pressure method is largely regarded as the most efficient method. And once you start running the system, there is a period where the paste almost self-spreads.

    Look, the only reason why we use thermal paste is that a metal on metal contact has a lot of air gaps, no matter how smooth and shiny the surfaces appears.

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    As we all know, AIR IS A TERRIBLE HEAT CONDUCTOR! So all those itty bitty airgaps between the two surfaces does nothing but insulate the CPU and prevent heat transfer. This is why we use thermal paste. As we all know, liquids readily fill in a given volume. Paste also has an added bonus of (depending on what it's made of) being a pretty good heat conductor. But the conduction between metal to paste to metal is not as good as metal to metal (unless there's some kind of super paste that I'm not aware of). So the goal of thermal paste isn't to be a entire layer in between the two surfaces, instead it's to fill in those air gaps that acts like insulation.

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  • Mmmm... Cocks...Mmmm... Cocks... Registered User regular
    So I've had people tell me memtest will almost always find bad RAM in the first pass. However I basically had to build a whole bench test system to finally find out the problem was with the RAM.
    We did 4 passes on those bastard sticks IIRC.

  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Well, at least you got to provide us with a possibly useful data point.

    Glad you worked it out!

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    My RAM usage is sitting at 95% while playing Mass Effect Andromeda if I have Chrome open too.

    I'm at 8GB, and super want to move to 16, but I really don't want to spend a bunch of money on old-model DDR3 RAM.

    However, if I move to DDR4 then I need a new motherboard, since I'm on a Z97, and that means a new CPU too, since I'm on a 4770K.

    Decisions.

    Elvenshae
  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks The Myth, the Legend, the Bowman, the Shambler FuckerRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
    rpshoggoth wrote: »
    Tossed this together after doing a bit of reading and looking around.

    Any thoughts?

    Also, what is the conventional wisdom regarding 4k vs ultrawide?

    If you go 4K you'll have to spend a ton of money on both a GPU capable of that level of performance and a 4K monitor.

    If you go Ultrawide you'll have to buy a new monitor and will have issues with a few games but you will never want to go back to a standard display again. Also, 2560x1080 or 3440x1440 are a lower performance hit so your framerates will be higher.

    Unless you have money to burn (and I mean burn) I'd wait another GPU generation before going 4k. A 1080ti like the one in that list is certainly the GPU you're looking for if you want to go 4k right now though.

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  • BouwsTBouwsT Wanna come to a super soft birthday party? Registered User regular
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    I took the one less traveled by,
    And that has made all the difference.
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