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HBO's The Night Of - eight part crime drama, final episode 8/28 [SPOILERS]
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This is a thread for talking about The Night Of, American crime drama series of eight episodes, adapted from a BBC show Criminal Justice.
Cast and crew: http://www.hbo.com/the-night-of/cast-and-crew/index.html
No spoiler tags necessary in this thread. PLEASE UNDERSTAND ANY AND ALL EPISODES MAY BE SPOILED BELOW.
From creators Steven Zaillian and Richard Price, The Night Of is an eight-part limited series that delves into the intricate story of a fictitious murder case in New York City. The series follows the police investigation and legal proceedings, all the while examining the criminal justice system and the purgatory of Rikers Island, where the accused awaits his trial.
Cast and crew: http://www.hbo.com/the-night-of/cast-and-crew/index.html
No spoiler tags necessary in this thread. PLEASE UNDERSTAND ANY AND ALL EPISODES MAY BE SPOILED BELOW.
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Yeah in some moments the show feels brilliant, in others kind of trashy and cliche. It's interesting to say the least and I like all the actors.
But the good definitely outweighs the bad, and I am looking forward to the finale.
Out of curiosity, was that a new girl at the cold open of episode 7? Wouldn't that be kind of a big deal in any normal case where someone without any kind of criminal record is locked away?
Among all the other stuff that is being handled strangely in the courtroom, like the pieces of crucial evidence people just keep picking up outside of bags for no fucking reason.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Haha that infuriates me. They must have made the decision it looks cooler or something. Let's all handle the murder weapon!
maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
Is the defense going to put duane reade on the stand and ask him questions to basically make him implicate himself as potentially the murderer? Woah duane reade needs a lawyer
But obviously more dramatic than bringing in witness a, b, and c to say that stepdad is a golddigger or undertaker is psycho scary.
Edit: haha "do you ever lie?" is the worst tv lawyer question I've ever heard
Investigations on both sides were shoddy as heck, too.
Someone didn't catch that one when they reviewed the script.
This is why True Detective Season 1 was so good to me, the characters actually acknowledged this problem of fitting facts to the presupposed narrative and actively fought against it. Because it's a real problem and an actual real detective wouldn't necessarily seize the first obvious option and never look back. If the Night Of was trying to convey this theme they did it hamfistedly at best.
bad lawyering is something I might catch here and there but personally doesn't bother me nearly as much as the inconsistencies of the prison scenes and how quickly nas changed. But I do see that that's a huge part of the entire point of the thing.
on the one hand I like the idea of eight eps and that's it, making a tightly written and executed story
on the other hand, it definitely had the feel of too much happening too quickly to really feel the length of time, and weight of experience, that caused some characters to change dramatically from when we are first introduced to them
Visually it was very well done, most of the acting was great, but the themetic elements fell flat, beyond imparting cynicism about each and every level of the criminal system. I mean, the Wire did that in a way, but it did it so much better. same with True Detective, which had a take on bad men trying to do something good within (and then outside of) a bad system.
I am also happy (wrong emotion but you get it) that they showed the damage the system causes to otherwise good people. Him smoking up at the spot where she and him got high was just heartbreaking, as was the moment where he treated his mom like he learned how to act in prison. That is a wound that will unlikely heal and it is true to form.
But the courtroom stuff itself was weak, and the idiocy of the investigations just did me in.
Like, you can use city cameras to follow people throughout the city? And you waited to do this for a murder victim until the trial was nearly over? The fact that the prosecution and defense treated "The Night Of" as having begun for her when she got into his cab is just ludicrous. And then the prosecution didn't bring the evidence to court in any way whatsoever? Someone was brutally murdered and they didn't look at her financial records for motive?
Gah.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
Let's play Mario Kart or something...
i felt like this was more a reflection of naz seeing right through her lie of always thinking he was innocent, and that his mom will always wonder if maybe he did do it, especially in lieu of an actual "not guilty" decision
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Consider this; his eczema went away when he had kitty, came back with a vengeance when he returned kitty...
I think the guy just needs to have kitty in his life forever and take lots of Zyrtec.
Let's play Mario Kart or something...