No Grass/Fire either.
Seems like something that should have happened.
#??? Tormentrio Grass/Fire
Tormentrio's existence is one of pure misery and agony. It regrows the foliage that covers it's body almost instantly, however, the oils that coat its skin ignite on contact with the growth. This Pokemon is quite popular in colder climates!
Everyone has a price. Throw enough gold around and someone will risk disintegration.
No Grass/Fire either.
Seems like something that should have happened.
#??? Tormentrio Grass/Fire
Tormentrio's existence is one of pure misery and agony. It regrows the foliage that covers it's body almost instantly, however, the oils that coat its skin ignite on contact with the growth. This Pokemon is quite popular in colder climates!
If we could add a bit about it being hunted to near extinction for food and fuel, I think we've got a winner.
No Grass/Fire either.
Seems like something that should have happened.
#??? Tormentrio Grass/Fire
Tormentrio's existence is one of pure misery and agony. It regrows the foliage that covers it's body almost instantly, however, the oils that coat its skin ignite on contact with the growth. This Pokemon is quite popular in colder climates!
Grass / Fire makes me think of plants that grow to big sizes near volcanic areas. Corn for example.
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Ugg... Spent hours (as in, like 4) last night trying to chain a shiny ditto using the strat (which works amazing btw). No luck. I didn't want to give up my progress so I just left the 3DS in sleep mode with the battle still going to try again tonight, but eventually I need to collect my beans and stuff..
I don't think anyone knows yet what the exact chance of getting a shiny is. It's better if you have the shiny charm but that takes a lot of work to get (completing the alola dex). I've seen people saying they got multiple shinies through chaining, several of them under 100 chains, one said it took them 350. It's likely 1/128, 1/256, or 1/512 chance.
Yeah, I did the first thing. I honestly looks more convoluted than it actually is. The bulk of the work is just catching the appropriate pokemon (and I guess breeding a single Klefki). The garbage bag being the most annoying since he's only an SOS pokemon and the little baby garbage bags have a move with recoil to screw up false swipe -_- Everything else is just visiting the move tutor to teach them the needed moves (and the move deleter for Klefki). I guess also finding Leppa Berries if somehow you don't already have some.
It's just a shame because I chained exeggcutes earlier and was able to find a shiny after not too long. I think I'm just being very unlucky right now. But not for lack of trying. I think my garbage bag gained like 25 levels off just dead dittos in the time I was doing it (which is good because now sludge bomb actually one shots the ditto).
The method is amazing though, it's impossible to screw up unless you aren't vigilant with recycle (I did get into a state once where both sludge bomb and recycle hit 0 PP and the leppa berry restored sludge bomb, leaving me no option to replace the berry... But luckily I could just manually eat one as an item use to refill recycle :P)
No Grass/Fire either.
Seems like something that should have happened.
This just made me think of literally a grass fire, which is a cool mental image for a pokemon.
Like imagine Pikmin only they are all on fire and running around frantically in circles like "HOT HOT HOT!!!"
Something only really doable now that the series has moved to high detail 3D models. A whole patch of little grass blades acting together, running around, on fire. Another Exeggcute "swarm" concept!
I love how in all the cutscenes where the NPCs are reacting to what's happening with various expressions on their faces, the player character's face stays the same. When the big bad is making the power play and everyone has expressions of shock and horror, you still have that stupid grin on your face.
edit:
This face. Spoilered since it's a screen from a big plot point.
I have a fully upgraded Isle Evelup (I think it's called) and decided to try it out for leveling.
I would say it's not really very effective. I put in 6 pokemon that were at levels around 52-54, and told them to exercise for the maximum amount of time, which is 48 hours. I gave them enough beans to reduce the time to 24 hours. Ultimately they all only gained 3 or 4 levels.
I guess if you are patient and have a lot of pokemon to level up simultaneously, it could be useful, but it wasn't any major coup to the leveling slog in this game.
I have a fully upgraded Isle Evelup (I think it's called) and decided to try it out for leveling.
I would say it's not really very effective. I put in 6 pokemon that were at levels around 52-54, and told them to exercise for the maximum amount of time, which is 48 hours. I gave them enough beans to reduce the time to 24 hours. Ultimately they all only gained 3 or 4 levels.
I guess if you are patient and have a lot of pokemon to level up simultaneously, it could be useful, but it wasn't any major coup to the leveling slog in this game.
Like with breeding, I view it as the "I have a lot on my plate today / this week, but I can let the game do a bit of the leg work for me in the meantime" option.
By the skin of my teeth. Goddamn. My party was NOT set up well for that. Lycanroc was the worst lead I possibly could have faced. Ninetales can't set up Aurora Veil without dying first, and nobody on my team outspeeds it or resists rock (and a full half of them are weak to rock). If only I'd known the champion battle was going to be against the Professor of all people I'd have known to prepare for it. I tried to switch to Decidueye and he just exploded. Toxapex had to deal with both it and Snorlax, but not before Stealth Rock went up. Salazzle traded with Magnezone (after powering through paralysis three times without seizing up, bless her). And then later Braviary kept spamming Whirlwind while Stealth Rocks was up, which kept pulling out Mimikyu, which I had to switch back out because if his Disguise got popped too early it would have been curtains for me in the last third of the match.
It eventually came down to only Mimikyu and Ninetales being up, at half health. Mimikyu sets up Swords Dance and finishes off Incineroar, Golisopod having died softening it up. And then an enemy Ninetales comes up, and I'm boned. Mimikyu can't use anything except Shadow Sneak or it'll probably get outsped, which won't be enough, and then my own Ninetales will be outsped because it's level 57 versus 65. So I Shadow Sneak...and it crits, one-shotting the Ninetales and securing the win.
Keeping Toxapex was the right call--I stalled out so many annoying things with her--but swapping out Decidueye or Salazzle for Flygon would have made a lot of things so much easier. Salazzle was only really helpful against Magnezone anyway, and Decidueye was nothing special in any matchup.
Also, it's fun to imagine Kukui during the setup for all of this. "Okay, the arenas are finished and ready! Now we just have to wait for the Kahunas to arrive! ...Wait, Acerola? What are you doing here? Where's Nanu? He's not coming? Seriously?! Augh! Okay, fine, you cover for him, we'll be fine as soon as Poni Island's...wait, who the hell are YOU supposed to be? What? Didn't have a Kahuna until this morning? What the fuck?! Well why isn't SHE here, then?! Jesus tapdancing Christ, forget it, I'll just fight Ellen myself! GOD."
OK, I haven't finished the game yet, but did anyone else get the weird feeling that Officer Nena is supposed to be N? maybe it was just his line about Pokeballs.
I have a fully upgraded Isle Evelup (I think it's called) and decided to try it out for leveling.
I would say it's not really very effective. I put in 6 pokemon that were at levels around 52-54, and told them to exercise for the maximum amount of time, which is 48 hours. I gave them enough beans to reduce the time to 24 hours. Ultimately they all only gained 3 or 4 levels.
I guess if you are patient and have a lot of pokemon to level up simultaneously, it could be useful, but it wasn't any major coup to the leveling slog in this game.
I'm trying out the EV training thing, 31.5 hours is what is supposed to put it at 252. The main perk is I can just dump Pokemon in there and then go about doing other stuff such as grinding BP or literally doing other stuff not pokemon related.
Conversely the egg hatching island has been underwhelming. I have it at level 2, but since you cant mass hatch the eggs (you still have the animation and have to go one by one)0, and I still need to walk around to get the eggs to begin with it isn't as good as I had hoped. Still useful for when I don't want to ride back and forth for hours, but not quite perfect. Plus it is annoying that you don't seem to have the ability to move stuff in or out of your party so if I am holding some eggs I need to go to a PC to shuffle them then go back.
For breeding destiny knot + everstone + Pokemon with the best IVs I can manage + lots of time is the most efficient method? Working on filling a second box full of male salandit's, haven't seen a female yet and none with 4 IVs from the ditto I'm using. Inferring from other posts this is pretty much normal?
Reboot my memory: do EVs cap at 252 for a stat, or is it still possible to cap at 255 (for no gains)?
I've looked around online for the answer to this and found conflicting reports, possibly from terminology confusion (yes we know 252 is the cap for useful EVs, but is it the actual CAP, or do they let you be wasteful?). Threads typically ended with someone saying "yes the cap is 252" but I'm still not sure.
For breeding destiny knot + everstone + Pokemon with the best IVs I can manage + lots of time is the most efficient method? Working on filling a second box full of male salandit's, haven't seen a female yet and none with 4 IVs from the ditto I'm using. Inferring from other posts this is pretty much normal?
Yes. I'm about to embark on this myself as I finally got my Destiny Knot from Pickup! Also found a Black Belt in the grass after beating a wild "event" guy roaming around, and picked up a Leftovers too.
So this is what I'll be doing.
- Go to the mountain where you can catch Salandit, party led by a Timid Synchronize Abra
- Catch Salandits until I get a Timid one which is a 50% chance (male or female does not matter)
- Make the Timid Salandit hold an Everstone and make one of my good Dittos hold the Destiny Knot
- Hatch one or two eggs and check them for perfect IVs...it's very likely that one or two will be passed down (Destiny Knot passes down 5 of the 12 total from both parents, and 4 of the 12 are perfect at this point)
- Use any babies that have more perfects than the previous one to breed the next gen (gender still doesn't matter)
- When I have a Salandit with perfects that match the Ditto, start breeding that one with the other Ditto that has different perfects
- Keep breeding and swapping in better children until it's got everything perfect...but in this case it will take longer because Salandit only have a 12.5% chance of being female, and there's no way to control that at this point, but at least all children should be 5/6 perfect eventually
- Successfully breed a perfect Timid female Salandit!
- Either buy power items and go chain for EVs in the wild, or put it in Pokepelago for passive EVs (252 special attack 252 speed probably)
Now, this process can be potentially complicated further if you get into the mess that is breeding for egg moves. Salazzle doesn't appear to need any egg moves to be awesome, but some pokemon do need it to truly shine. Here's someone explaining one situation where you would do that (I'll probably be doing this one myself sometime here).
That makes sense @UncleSporky . I was able to get a timid salazzle from its so I was set there. I am unfortunately a little stuck getting the next phase which is a salandit's that has the 4 perfects to get to the next ditto.
I haven't looked into egg moves and I don't think the 3 I am starting with need them (golisopod, sandslash, salandit) so i am hoping that by that time better dittos will be available.
Elite 4 and Champion BEATEN!
It was really really hard. My team also wasn't ready for that last fight. I had 2 down and 2 more with 1hp, with just my Snorlax stalling for me to revive one of the others, who promptly got OHKO'd again. I even used the Z-Move at a bad time.
But I did win. Damn that was harrowing.
The post-party battle is super annoying, though.
Also, this is my favorite cast, so far. The change from gyms to captains and Kahunas made the characters so much more interesting and involved. You get to meet and interact with most of them before and after the trial much more than even XY.
Is there anything concrete as to how fast the pelago hatches eggs? Also, how the beans impac the hatch rate? I feels as though it is waaaaay slower than just simply wandering around.
It might pay off when fully upgraded and breeding your final generation to get that hexaperfect mon just because you're working in parallel, but I don't think it's worth it for previous generations just because you're constantly refining the parents every handful of eggs and the hot springs will just ruin the turn around time for your early generations.
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I wish Electivire was Electric/Fighting. It looks like it should be.
Seems like something that should have happened.
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#??? Tormentrio Grass/Fire
Tormentrio's existence is one of pure misery and agony. It regrows the foliage that covers it's body almost instantly, however, the oils that coat its skin ignite on contact with the growth. This Pokemon is quite popular in colder climates!
If we could add a bit about it being hunted to near extinction for food and fuel, I think we've got a winner.
Grass / Fire makes me think of plants that grow to big sizes near volcanic areas. Corn for example.
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Yeah, I did the first thing. I honestly looks more convoluted than it actually is. The bulk of the work is just catching the appropriate pokemon (and I guess breeding a single Klefki). The garbage bag being the most annoying since he's only an SOS pokemon and the little baby garbage bags have a move with recoil to screw up false swipe -_- Everything else is just visiting the move tutor to teach them the needed moves (and the move deleter for Klefki). I guess also finding Leppa Berries if somehow you don't already have some.
It's just a shame because I chained exeggcutes earlier and was able to find a shiny after not too long. I think I'm just being very unlucky right now. But not for lack of trying. I think my garbage bag gained like 25 levels off just dead dittos in the time I was doing it (which is good because now sludge bomb actually one shots the ditto).
The method is amazing though, it's impossible to screw up unless you aren't vigilant with recycle (I did get into a state once where both sludge bomb and recycle hit 0 PP and the leppa berry restored sludge bomb, leaving me no option to replace the berry... But luckily I could just manually eat one as an item use to refill recycle :P)
It probably naturally learns leech seed , wil-o-wisp, solar beam and has either the drought or flashfire ability.
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Known for chasing after children with psychic powers, they often explode into flames upon defeat in order to take their foe with them.
"We have years of struggle ahead, mostly within ourselves." - Made in USA
Basically Electivire.
Exactly like Geodude but Grass/Fire.
Except with a unique dual-typed Grass/Fire explosion that it gets STAB off of and inflicts Burn status.
So basically the best possible Pokemon to have to try and catch in the wild. :biggrin:
It would evolve when fainted by a fire type move
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Mulleted buff dude
hum...
I named it Coldrake
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Electric/Poison??
This just made me think of literally a grass fire, which is a cool mental image for a pokemon.
Like imagine Pikmin only they are all on fire and running around frantically in circles like "HOT HOT HOT!!!"
Something only really doable now that the series has moved to high detail 3D models. A whole patch of little grass blades acting together, running around, on fire. Another Exeggcute "swarm" concept!
edit:
This face. Spoilered since it's a screen from a big plot point.
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That applies to Fire/Electric and Grass/Electric too.
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I have a fully upgraded Isle Evelup (I think it's called) and decided to try it out for leveling.
I would say it's not really very effective. I put in 6 pokemon that were at levels around 52-54, and told them to exercise for the maximum amount of time, which is 48 hours. I gave them enough beans to reduce the time to 24 hours. Ultimately they all only gained 3 or 4 levels.
I guess if you are patient and have a lot of pokemon to level up simultaneously, it could be useful, but it wasn't any major coup to the leveling slog in this game.
Like with breeding, I view it as the "I have a lot on my plate today / this week, but I can let the game do a bit of the leg work for me in the meantime" option.
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It eventually came down to only Mimikyu and Ninetales being up, at half health. Mimikyu sets up Swords Dance and finishes off Incineroar, Golisopod having died softening it up. And then an enemy Ninetales comes up, and I'm boned. Mimikyu can't use anything except Shadow Sneak or it'll probably get outsped, which won't be enough, and then my own Ninetales will be outsped because it's level 57 versus 65. So I Shadow Sneak...and it crits, one-shotting the Ninetales and securing the win.
Keeping Toxapex was the right call--I stalled out so many annoying things with her--but swapping out Decidueye or Salazzle for Flygon would have made a lot of things so much easier. Salazzle was only really helpful against Magnezone anyway, and Decidueye was nothing special in any matchup.
Also, it's fun to imagine Kukui during the setup for all of this. "Okay, the arenas are finished and ready! Now we just have to wait for the Kahunas to arrive! ...Wait, Acerola? What are you doing here? Where's Nanu? He's not coming? Seriously?! Augh! Okay, fine, you cover for him, we'll be fine as soon as Poni Island's...wait, who the hell are YOU supposed to be? What? Didn't have a Kahuna until this morning? What the fuck?! Well why isn't SHE here, then?! Jesus tapdancing Christ, forget it, I'll just fight Ellen myself! GOD."
(champion spoilers)
it made me shout "in a children's game?! you MONSTER!" at my 3ds.
I'm trying out the EV training thing, 31.5 hours is what is supposed to put it at 252. The main perk is I can just dump Pokemon in there and then go about doing other stuff such as grinding BP or literally doing other stuff not pokemon related.
Conversely the egg hatching island has been underwhelming. I have it at level 2, but since you cant mass hatch the eggs (you still have the animation and have to go one by one)0, and I still need to walk around to get the eggs to begin with it isn't as good as I had hoped. Still useful for when I don't want to ride back and forth for hours, but not quite perfect. Plus it is annoying that you don't seem to have the ability to move stuff in or out of your party so if I am holding some eggs I need to go to a PC to shuffle them then go back.
For breeding destiny knot + everstone + Pokemon with the best IVs I can manage + lots of time is the most efficient method? Working on filling a second box full of male salandit's, haven't seen a female yet and none with 4 IVs from the ditto I'm using. Inferring from other posts this is pretty much normal?
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I've looked around online for the answer to this and found conflicting reports, possibly from terminology confusion (yes we know 252 is the cap for useful EVs, but is it the actual CAP, or do they let you be wasteful?). Threads typically ended with someone saying "yes the cap is 252" but I'm still not sure.
Yes. I'm about to embark on this myself as I finally got my Destiny Knot from Pickup! Also found a Black Belt in the grass after beating a wild "event" guy roaming around, and picked up a Leftovers too.
So this is what I'll be doing.
- Go to the mountain where you can catch Salandit, party led by a Timid Synchronize Abra
- Catch Salandits until I get a Timid one which is a 50% chance (male or female does not matter)
- Make the Timid Salandit hold an Everstone and make one of my good Dittos hold the Destiny Knot
- Hatch one or two eggs and check them for perfect IVs...it's very likely that one or two will be passed down (Destiny Knot passes down 5 of the 12 total from both parents, and 4 of the 12 are perfect at this point)
- Use any babies that have more perfects than the previous one to breed the next gen (gender still doesn't matter)
- When I have a Salandit with perfects that match the Ditto, start breeding that one with the other Ditto that has different perfects
- Keep breeding and swapping in better children until it's got everything perfect...but in this case it will take longer because Salandit only have a 12.5% chance of being female, and there's no way to control that at this point, but at least all children should be 5/6 perfect eventually
- Successfully breed a perfect Timid female Salandit!
- Either buy power items and go chain for EVs in the wild, or put it in Pokepelago for passive EVs (252 special attack 252 speed probably)
Now, this process can be potentially complicated further if you get into the mess that is breeding for egg moves. Salazzle doesn't appear to need any egg moves to be awesome, but some pokemon do need it to truly shine. Here's someone explaining one situation where you would do that (I'll probably be doing this one myself sometime here).
I haven't looked into egg moves and I don't think the 3 I am starting with need them (golisopod, sandslash, salandit) so i am hoping that by that time better dittos will be available.
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It was really really hard. My team also wasn't ready for that last fight. I had 2 down and 2 more with 1hp, with just my Snorlax stalling for me to revive one of the others, who promptly got OHKO'd again. I even used the Z-Move at a bad time.
But I did win. Damn that was harrowing.
The post-party battle is super annoying, though.
Also, this is my favorite cast, so far. The change from gyms to captains and Kahunas made the characters so much more interesting and involved. You get to meet and interact with most of them before and after the trial much more than even XY.
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