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Godzilla and other, less important Kaiju

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  • KwoaruKwoaru Registered User regular
    I will say I was disappointed that they didn't show
    Godzilla and or Kong flying out of middle earth in a way that looked cool

    Like I wanted godzilla to go through the portal and just handle the gravity flip perfectly without any issues

    Or Kong to come flying out of the giant hole Godzilla made at a speed that actually made sense for how quickly he got there

    But it's a small complaint really

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I will say I was disappointed that they didn't show
    Godzilla and or Kong flying out of middle earth in a way that looked cool

    Like I wanted godzilla to go through the portal and just handle the gravity flip perfectly without any issues

    Or Kong to come flying out of the giant hole Godzilla made at a speed that actually made sense for how quickly he got there

    But it's a small complaint really

    It was kind of funny that
    Kong apparently crawled up a 6000 km shaft in like a minute.

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I will say I was disappointed that they didn't show
    Godzilla and or Kong flying out of middle earth in a way that looked cool

    Like I wanted godzilla to go through the portal and just handle the gravity flip perfectly without any issues

    Or Kong to come flying out of the giant hole Godzilla made at a speed that actually made sense for how quickly he got there

    But it's a small complaint really

    It was kind of funny that
    Kong apparently crawled up a 6000 km shaft in like a minute.

    I remember putting together the storyboards for this sequence and pointing that out and the general response being “he sure does!”

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    "This monkey can really MOVE."

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    YaYa wrote: »
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I will say I was disappointed that they didn't show
    Godzilla and or Kong flying out of middle earth in a way that looked cool

    Like I wanted godzilla to go through the portal and just handle the gravity flip perfectly without any issues

    Or Kong to come flying out of the giant hole Godzilla made at a speed that actually made sense for how quickly he got there

    But it's a small complaint really

    It was kind of funny that
    Kong apparently crawled up a 6000 km shaft in like a minute.

    I remember putting together the storyboards for this sequence and pointing that out and the general response being “he sure does!”

    I just did the math.
    The radius of the earth is 6,378 kilometers. Lets say there's "ground' of at least 378 kilometer ball for people to stand on in the hollow earth, so the shaft is 6,000 meters.

    I'd need to rewatch the movie, but let's say it takes him 10 minutes to climb up that shaft, that would mean he was moving at 36,000 kilometers per hour. (22,369 mph)

    If he did it in a minute, multiply that by 10. (360,000 kph (223,690 mph)

    For comparison

    Fastest Car (Tuatara Hypercar): 508.5 kph (316 mph)
    Speed of Sound: 1,235 km/h (767 mph)
    Fastest Plane (Sr-71 Blackbird): 3,500 kph (2,100 mph)
    Fastest Bullet (220 Swift): 5,119 kph (3,180 mph)
    International Space Station: 27,580 kph (17,130 mph)
    Kong (10 minutes): 36,000 kph (22,369 mph)
    Escape Velocity (Earth): 40,270 kph (25,020 mph)
    Orbital Speed (Earth): 106 660 kph (66,660mph)
    Orbital Speed (Mercury): 172,332 kph (107,982 mph)
    Escape Velocity (Jupiter): 214,200 kph (133,098 mph)
    Kong (1 minute): 360,000 kph (223,690 mph)

    That is a very fast monky

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  • JayKaosJayKaos Registered User regular
    To be fair
    He'd be falling for a big chunk of it right until the gravity-inversions hyperspace timewarp

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  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    Space is actually relative in the Hollow Earth. If you’ll just look at this chart:
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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    Reading more of the novelization, apparently people do know exactly who Madison's mother was. There's not even any mention of attempts to hide it.

    More importantly, though, is this part about Godzilla and radiation:
    Godzilla emits some unknown form of energy, though he is capable of converting conventionally-understood radiation into another form of energy that does not resemble nuclear particles and waves. Dr. Lind believes that this energy is related to quantum states. Earlier in the book, it's also stated that the Vortex leading to the Hollow Earth does "funny things with time"...

    Pretty sure this is a full blown retcon, but I'm 100% okay with it.

    I call them Hawking Holes

  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    JayKaos wrote: »
    To be fair
    He'd be falling for a big chunk of it right until the gravity-inversions hyperspace timewarp
    no, he couldn't be, because terminal velocity is only around 120 MPH, more or less depending on air pressure and wind resistance of a giant gorilla, but he doesn't constantly accelerate the whole falling half unless he's adding power to it by pulling himself along at speeds enough to disintegrate meteors passing through the atmosphere.

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I will say I was disappointed that they didn't show
    Godzilla and or Kong flying out of middle earth in a way that looked cool

    Like I wanted godzilla to go through the portal and just handle the gravity flip perfectly without any issues

    Or Kong to come flying out of the giant hole Godzilla made at a speed that actually made sense for how quickly he got there

    But it's a small complaint really

    It was kind of funny that
    Kong apparently crawled up a 6000 km shaft in like a minute.

    I remember putting together the storyboards for this sequence and pointing that out and the general response being “he sure does!”

    I just did the math.
    The radius of the earth is 6,378 kilometers. Lets say there's "ground' of at least 378 kilometer ball for people to stand on in the hollow earth, so the shaft is 6,000 meters.

    I'd need to rewatch the movie, but let's say it takes him 10 minutes to climb up that shaft, that would mean he was moving at 36,000 kilometers per hour. (22,369 mph)

    If he did it in a minute, multiply that by 10. (360,000 kph (223,690 mph)

    For comparison

    Fastest Car (Tuatara Hypercar): 508.5 kph ( 316 mph)
    Speed of Sound: 1,235 km/h (767 mph)
    Fastest Plane (Sr-71 Blackbird): 3,500 kph (2,100 mph)
    Fastest Bullet (220 Swift): 5,119 kph (3,180 mph)
    International Space Station: 27,580 (17,130 mph)
    Kong (10 minutes): 36,000 kph (22,369 mph)
    Escape Velocity (Earth): 40,270 kph (25,020 mph)
    Orbital Speed (Earth): 106 660 kph (66,660mph)
    Orbital Speed (Mercury): 172,332 kph (107,982 mph)
    Escape Velocity (Jupiter): 214,200 kph (133,098 mph)
    Kong (1 minute): 360,000 kph (223,690 mph)

    That is a very fast monky

    He sure does!

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    if we're gonna worry about that though we should probably also worry about the square cube law and how giant monsters are able to continue to be alive

    and NO ONE wants to do that

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    if we're gonna worry about that though we should probably also worry about the square cube law and how giant monsters are able to continue to be alive

    magic radiation

    Next question.

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  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    if we're gonna worry about that though we should probably also worry about the square cube law and how giant monsters are able to continue to be alive

    magic radiation

    Next question.

    Who would win in a fight Mothra fused with Gamera or Rodan and Reverse Rodan (this one is icy)?

  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Gamothera because Rodan is a fucking narc.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Also like are we talking potara fusion or like Metamoran fusion dance fusions and are they both using the same method?

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Rodan is no issue since Gamera literally eats fire. The ice Rodan (Let's call her Nador) might be an issue, unless the Mothra infusion gives him some special protection against cold. That said, Gamera's fire would probably do a number on Nador.

    It is important to note that Gamera's most common foe, Gyaos, is basically Rodan with a better attack, so Gamera would probably be able to make short work of a Rodan, one on one just due to the experience.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    I almost want to skip ahead in the novelization to see if
    it includes anything about the Vortex when Kong and the HEAVs ascend to Hong Kong. It does go into detail on other things, like how Kong was sedated and moved from his biodome to the naval transport (the lead engineer for that is specifically noted to have worked at Behemoth's former containment facility; they sure do love referencing that monster). Moving Kong apparently involved damaging the biodome enough that the remaining life forms of Skull Island will be destroyed by the storm, so Skull Island is a dead zone now.

    BTW, the novelization makes it clear that Madison doesn't believe the majority of what Bernie says on his podcast beyond things having to do with Titans or Apex. Even then, the "Mothra Pregnant?" episode is one that she was particularly unimpressed by, seeing as she was around Mothra's egg and witnessed her birth.

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  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    edited April 8
    Oh I’m sorry to clarify Rodan and Reverse Rodan are separate.

    Mothra and Gamera will being doing a fusion dance.

    Edit: Honestly the answer is clear, I just couldn’t think of better opponent’s off the top of my head.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Oh I’m sorry to clarify Rodan and Reverse Rodan are separate.

    Mothra and Gamera will being doing a fusion dance.

    Oh then it's not even close because the fusion dance is a power multiplication.

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  • Endless_SerpentsEndless_Serpents Registered User regular
    edited April 8
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    Together they are... Glamera!

    Edit: I regret to inform @Undead Scottsman that you are now the copyright holder of Nador.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
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    Together they are... Glamera!

    Edit: I regret to inform @Undead Scottsman that you are now the copyright holder of Nador.

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    Now, how do we do that NFT thing to make a bajillion dollars off of these?

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  • Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    see317 wrote: »
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    Together they are... Glamera!

    Edit: I regret to inform @Undead Scottsman that you are now the copyright holder of Nador.

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    Now, how do we do that NFT thing to make a bajillion dollars off of these?

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I wasn't on board until I saw the name Glamera

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited April 9
    YaYa wrote: »
    Kwoaru wrote: »
    I will say I was disappointed that they didn't show
    Godzilla and or Kong flying out of middle earth in a way that looked cool

    Like I wanted godzilla to go through the portal and just handle the gravity flip perfectly without any issues

    Or Kong to come flying out of the giant hole Godzilla made at a speed that actually made sense for how quickly he got there

    But it's a small complaint really

    It was kind of funny that
    Kong apparently crawled up a 6000 km shaft in like a minute.

    I remember putting together the storyboards for this sequence and pointing that out and the general response being “he sure does!”

    I just got to this part in the novelization:
    Kong leaps down into the hole and is next seen emerging in Hong Kong. A little later, the H.E.A.V. that Dr. Lind and the others are in passes through a Vortex like the one that they encountered when entering the Hollow Earth, though this time the description is a single paragraph.

    I'll post more in-depth later when I have time, but my understanding is that the data upload of the energy source from the Hollow Earth is a combination of the energy itself and Godzilla DNA. Cells that look unlike plant or animal cells, glowing with blue energy, are described as being synthesized to fuel MechaGodzilla. Further, Ren Serizawa's internal monologue mentions that the energy is unlike anything he's ever seen and introduces uncertainties on the quantum level.

    So, basically, they used a sample of Godzilla DNA and the power source to try and mimic Godzilla's metabolism, which can produce quantum...stuff.

    I'm curious how much of this was in the script and how much was the writer of this novelization trying to justify it.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Wait, that netflix Pacific Rim anime came out already? Why is nobody talking about it?

  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Realtor Santa ClaritaRegistered User regular
    Wait, that netflix Pacific Rim anime came out already? Why is nobody talking about it?

    It was only like 5 episodes. It was....fine, but it didn't really have a lot of substance.

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    It also was more generic "humanity sucks apocalypse" anime than the "stronger together" message of pacific rim

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  • cj iwakuracj iwakura The Rhythm Regent The World on This SideRegistered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    Sorry if you've already mentioned it @YaYa but what was your involvement with the film? That is really interesting.

    I was Wingard’s assistant for his burgeoning production company, which meant I did a lot of odd jobs on the movie while they were getting the company on its feet

    I’m not credited, unfortunately, since I worked directly for him rather than for Legendary

    Were you involved with You're Next and The Guest?

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    cj iwakura wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    Sorry if you've already mentioned it @YaYa but what was your involvement with the film? That is really interesting.

    I was Wingard’s assistant for his burgeoning production company, which meant I did a lot of odd jobs on the movie while they were getting the company on its feet

    I’m not credited, unfortunately, since I worked directly for him rather than for Legendary

    Were you involved with You're Next and The Guest?

    nope!

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Bloods End wrote: »
    It also was more generic "humanity sucks apocalypse" anime than the "stronger together" message of pacific rim

    Watched the first episode and wow that was mean spirited.
    Just kill off a entire village of children. Absolutely what I wanted to watch.

  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    I also dislike the changes they made to the idea of the breach.

  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I finished the Godzilla vs Kong novelization. I'm not going to go over absolutely everything, of course, but here are the elements I found most interesting:

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    Apex CEO Walter Simmons is approached by a "dangerous man" (who is unnamed, but almost definitely Alan Jonah from KotM). The man says he has two Ghidorah heads for Simmons (curious where he got the second one), and that he’s selling them to fund some mysterious endeavor.

    Lind’s Backstory
    Dr. Nathan Lind and his brother Dave prepare for Dave’s departure in an experimental aircraft to the Hollow Earth. Nathan thinks the storm around Skull Island has made the flight path to the Hollow Earth Vortex too dangerous and that he’d rather they postpone and use the Hollow Earth Vortex in Antarctica instead, but the press has already been invited to cover the launch of the expedition and Dave is afraid that Monarch is looking for an excuse to pull funding. The launch goes through and Dave successfully makes it to the Vortex, but nearly immediately after making it through Dave’s ship is destroyed.

    From what I understand, this was originally intended to be the opening scene of the movie.

    Jia’s Backstory
    On Skull Island, Jia becomes the last of the native islanders after the others are killed by flooding and ravenous monsters caused by the encroaching storm (the storm is later said to be the creation of a Titan called Camazotz, and that Monarch’s activities in trying to open a gateway to Hollow Earth caused it to awaken and draw the storm inland; I believe this is in reference to the upcoming prequel graphic novel Kingdom Kong). Kong is implied to sense a prayer to him made by Jia, causing the wandering Titan to find and save her.

    Apex and Monarch
    The biggest difference from the movie, surprisingly, is Bernie. Whereas in the movie all we know about the guy is that he’s a conspiracy theorist with a podcast who is undercover at Apex and has a late wife named Sara, the one section of the novelization told from his point of view reveals a massive amount of surprising backstory, including the revelation that Monarch commissioned Apex to create the Oxygen Destroyer used in KotM.

    First off, Sara worked for Apex even before the events of Godzilla 2014. After Godzilla and the MUTOs became common knowledge she started to talk about them a lot, which Bernie thought was just some new hobby. Eventually, though, Sara quit her job at Apex and died in a car accident less than a week later. Weeks after her death, Bernie started going through her things and found a note reading:

    "Godzilla>Apex>Monarch Contract>shipping manifest>component for bomb."

    Bernie applied for a job at Apex the next day and started the Titan Truth Podcast. Following the events of Godzilla: King of the Monsters, a number of Monarch operatives contacted him and revealed that the “bomb” Sara had mentioned in her note was the Oxygen Destroyer, which Monarch had contracted Apex to before attempting to bury the connection between Apex and Monarch (later in the book a Monarch engineer mentions to Dr. Lind that when the Titans began to break free during the events of King of the Monsters “termination protocols” were put into effect, but that they failed due to the Titans’ resilience being underestimated).
    In the scene in the movie where Bernie, Madison, and Josh talk, Bernie originally had this line: “Lost her in a car accident. Happened a week after she left her job…at Apex Industries.” There’s also a scene that takes place midway through the maglev train’s passage from Pensacola to Hong Kong where Madison says she wants to record what Apex is doing to send to Monarch only for Bernie to get into a brief argument with her, claiming that Monarch has Apex do its dirty work and that the people in charge of Monarch likely know everything Apex is up to.

    The point at which Bernie is introduced is the only time things are narrated from his perspective, but I can't help but wonder now how many of his weirder claims are things he actually believes and how much are just attempts to get people to underestimate him. After all, one of the first times he starts ranting about conspiracy-related nonsense is to drive a fellow Apex employee away so that he can steal information from a computer. Even his approaching Madison’s father at the end of the movie for his podcast could hypothetically be an attempt to infiltrate Monarch, too, seeing as he believes Apex answers to Monarch.

    There’s also other evidence of Apex and Monarch working together. It’s stated that the Apex facility in Pensacola was tipped-off that Godzilla might arrive by allies within Monarch, Mark discovers that the Apex facility was broadcasting a signal similar to that created by the ORCA device, Monarch Director Guillerman (Lance Reddick’s character who was largely cut from the movie because all his scenes are talking to Kyle Chandler’s Mark Russell) okays the joint Apex/Monarch mission to Hollow Earth and shares with Mark that the purpose is to obtain an energy source for Apex to use in a weapon against Gozilla. Mark is immediately suspicious and asks Guillerman what kind of weapon Apex is making, but Guillerman claims not to know. When Mechagodzilla is finally revealed, Guillerman also seems more curious than anything about Mechagodzilla, eager to see what Simmons’ creation can do.

    Ren
    Like in the movie, Ren Serizawa barely gets any dialog. However, we’re given a view into his inner thoughts. He hates his father for abandoning his family and ultimately sacrificing his life for Godzilla, a giant monster that has killed thousands. Dr. Serizawa’s “let them fight” quote was apparently reported by the media, which Ren interpreted as the words of a man who didn’t care how many human lives were lost in battles between Titans. Ren also has a negative opinion of Walter Simmons, thinking the Apex CEO is a short-sighted egomaniac that will one day die and be long forgotten. Ren wants to subjugate or destroy the Titans for the sake of humanity, even if no one knows he was responsible, believing such an action will change human history for the better.

    When Mechagodzilla goes rogue, it’s stated that the consciousness created "did not know who it was, or what it was". It invades and destroys Ren’s consciousness, and when Madison initially has the idea of going to the room where she had seen the pilot earlier discovers that it was destroyed when Mechagodzilla escaped the facility, no trace of the Ghidorah skull or the pilot anywhere.

    Godzilla and the Mysterious Energy
    Whereas how Jia knows about Godzilla is never explained in the movie, one scene in the novelization features Jia recognizing images of Godzilla as a “Zo-zla-halawa”, a species worshipped by enemies of her ancestors and the Kongs. The Zo-zla-halawa were said to have “eaten stars” and gained their power from them.

    Godzilla is specifically stated to generate and emit in the form of his ray the mysterious “quantum” energy of Hollow Earth. Though he can absorb and transform “conventionally understood” radiation into this energy, it is emphasized (in italics, even) that the energy used in his breath weapon doesn’t resemble the particles and waves discharged by fission or fusion reaction.

    So, yeah, MonsterVerse Godzilla apparently has a "quantum ray" instead of an atomic one.

    Finally, the novelization clarifies that when the data is transferred by Maia Simmons to Apex Headquarters that the data sent is not just the energy signature, but Godzilla DNA. What is being pumped into Mechagodzilla to power it are synthesized cells responsible for generating this unknown energy, with the cells being described as resembling “carbon snowflakes”.

    Ghidorah
    The entryway to Hollow Earth in Antarctica is very close, only a few miles away, to where Ghidorah was frozen in ice. Dr. Lind explains to Maia Simmons that, at his former level of clearance in Monarch, he only knew about the Hollow Earth entrance, but not Ghidorah. He also claims that no one knows why Ghidorah was near the entrance, if it had been attempting to enter the Hollow Earth or if it had emerged. Further, the ice around Ghidorah showed evidence of having been both quickly melted and refrozen.

    This could be nothing, but it is mentioned that Mark Russell is skeptical that King Ghidorah was actually an alien, seeing as next-to-nothing is known about the evolution of any of the Titans.

    The Other Titans
    Godzilla ordered them all to find places to rest. A few resisted, with Godzilla fighting Scylla in Savannah, Georgia, as the latter creature had been attracted by the atomic weapon buried in the mud off the coast. He also helped Behemoth defeat another Titan called Amhuluk in the Amazon. In both case the defeated Titans were not slain, but submitted and went to go into hibernation as Godzilla commanded. A terrorist group also attempted to capture Kraken using stolen Monarch equipment, but Godzilla freed the fellow Titan while Monarch sent air support to attack the terrorists' base.

    Madison
    Surprisingly, the fact that Madison is the daughter of the woman who unleashed King Ghidorah and the other Titans is common knowledge (I’d figure they’d try to cover that up, but oh well). She hates being around most other people her own age and often skips school. While her father Mark wants the rest of her youth to be normal and doesn’t want anything happening to the last member of his family, Madison resents his overprotectiveness. At one point she even thinks to herself that if it wasn’t for her stealing the ORCA the world might have been destroyed.

    Madison primarily listens to the Titan Truth Podcast for information about Apex and the Titans, but doesn't believe about half of it. Before deciding to try and find Bernie she contacts various members of Monarch she knows, but no one is willing to help her defy her father. When she and her friend Josh do meet Bernie and he asks if she drinks tap water or not she replies she doesn’t not because that’s actually true, but because she thinks that’s what Bernie wants to hear. She does have a negative opinion of the “Mothra Pregnant?” episode of Bernie’s podcast (as someone who was present when Mothra was born) and lets him know about it during the trip from Pensacola to Hong Kong.

    I'd hoped Zhang Zhiyi's Dr. Chen character would make an appearance, but no such luck other than maybe two or three references to her. I was also hoping that the extra scenes in
    Hollow Earth would be featured, but nope.
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  • Bloods EndBloods End Blade of Tyshalle Punch dimensionRegistered User regular
    The various titan battles talked about in the novelization are in the comics that just came out, Godzilla Dominion and Kingdom Kong.

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    Godzilla: Singular Point has started releasing on Japanese Netflix so it's unfortunately not very accessible, but if you do get access to it I would recommend it. The art style is expressive and I'm having a good time with the characters. In fact, these might be the first human characters I've actually enjoyed in the Godzilla universe.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    Is there any sort of visual history art book of all the Godzilla stuff?
    I would really enjoy some sort of fictitious zooilogical history book of all this nonsense. Bonus points for cool pictures.

  • Mortal SkyMortal Sky queer punk hedge witchRegistered User regular
    Watched GvK last night

    Definitely like K:SI more as a film, but the monster fights in this one were pretty unpunchable and the pacing overall was just right

    For now I think the Monsterverse feels like a fairly complete thought. I imagine anything that could possibly be happening in the future is in the earliest stages of pre-production so it'll be a couple years at least but, I certainly wouldn't object to more if they can find the right stories to tell

  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited April 10
    I just added a detail I forgot to the "Apex and Monarch" section of my previous post, but I want to make sure no one who would be interested misses this:
    Mark identifies that that the Pensacola Apex facility was broadcasting a signal similar to the one emitted by the ORCA, albeit modified to resemble a distorted version of Ghidorah's own signal. When Director Guillerman (Lance Reddick's character) tells Mark about the joint Apex/Monarch operation to take Kong to Hollow Earth, Mark immediately finds this suspicious. Guillerman even admits that Apex is looking for an energy source for a weapon against Godzilla, but when Mark asks "what kind of weapon?" Guillerman claims not to know. Later, when Godzilla approaches Hong Kong, Mark speculates that Apex is intentionally luring Godzilla there the same way they lured him to Pensacola.

    Director Guillerman and the other higher-ups at Monarch are totally the bad guys, no doubt. I don't believe for a second that no one at Monarch knew about Mechagodzilla or Simmons' plans.

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    The Godzilla Singular Point ending sequence has a ton of references to the Godzilla franchise as a whole:

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    Just found this CinemaBlend article that goes into more detail about the absence of Zhang Ziyi and Mothra from Godzilla vs Kong, which includes these fascinating tidbits:
    Costume designer Ann Foley told CinemaBlend during a 2019 set visit that she had designed costumes for the Chen sisters aka Shobijin. After the release of the movie, when asked what happened to Mothra and Zhang Ziyi's characters, writer Max Borenstein revealed that an unfilmed after credits sequence originally planned for King of the Monsters was considered for the after credits scene of Godzilla vs Kong, as well.

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    I'm very curious about what exactly happened with Zhang Ziyi. If she's for some reason unavailable for any potential sequels I hope they recast her or have another pair of characters take the role of Shobijin.

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  • Trajan45Trajan45 Registered User regular
    Didn't Yaya mention it was a scheduling issue? I'd assume her role was minimal and given the issue, they just removed those parts or gave them to someone else. The director mentioned that the after credits scene was mostly integrated into the movie itself. I can't think of what that might be, maybe over time some hints will come out.

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