Explosive rounds are probably going to be extra-good for this raid.
You want to try and avoid too many precision kills (DAMN YOU SEEKER BASTARDS!).
Lots of clusters of mobs.
Shanks can't be crit.
Now I really want a good hand cannon or scout with explosive rounds... Any recommendations?
The old Hung Jury had firefly and hidden hand. Dunno if you can still get them but the one I kept is pretty sweet. There was a FWC hand cannon with firefly and luck in the chamber which would (apparently still will) periodically crash your game if you were standing inside the blast radius of the firefly explosion. Can't recall the name and also don't know if you can still get it.
Firefly =! Explosive Rounds.
If Firefly explosions would insta-kill the seeker thingers, I'd totally keep using my Cocytus (that has the old vendor Hung Jury rolls).
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The New Monarchy vendor is selling a HC with Explosive rounds, rangefinder, hammer forged which is decent.
Main drawback for this one is that it's a low impact archetype, which means you will only be able to 1-shot shanks at your level or below.
My stolen pride is also low impact, so at 371 light I could 1 shot shanks everywhere except the final encounter.
High ROF helps make up for it a little bit (and it is amazing when you CAN 1shot them), but it means you'd probably need HC reload gloves or a reload boosting skill.
If only Fatebringer was infusable, even if it lost the arc damage
On my lunch break today I popped onto Destiny and joined @Wassermelone to try to farm some exotics by killing SIVA infected Iron Lords. I got one and he got a bajillion. I decided that I needed to go spend time praying to RN Jesus and try again this evening.
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Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
On my lunch break today I popped onto Destiny and joined @Wassermelone to try to farm some exotics by killing SIVA infected Iron Lords. I got one and he got a bajillion. I decided that I needed to go spend time praying to RN Jesus and try again this evening.
If it makes you feel better, I got nothing worth keeping
Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
Right, but is there a way to get them outside of the raid? Some drop % from the Archon's Forge or certain patrol enemies or something?
On my lunch break today I popped onto Destiny and joined @Wassermelone to try to farm some exotics by killing SIVA infected Iron Lords. I got one and he got a bajillion. I decided that I needed to go spend time praying to RN Jesus and try again this evening.
If it makes you feel better, I got nothing worth keeping
Not even anything higher light to infuse into existing gear?
The New Monarchy vendor is selling a HC with Explosive rounds, rangefinder, hammer forged which is decent.
Main drawback for this one is that it's a low impact archetype, which means you will only be able to 1-shot shanks at your level or below.
My stolen pride is also low impact, so at 371 light I could 1 shot shanks everywhere except the final encounter.
High ROF helps make up for it a little bit (and it is amazing when you CAN 1shot them), but it means you'd probably need HC reload gloves or a reload boosting skill.
If only Fatebringer was infusable, even if it lost the arc damage
Is there a mid-impact archetype hand cannon with explosive rounds and spray and play possible? Anything from the gunsmith I should get a work order for?
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Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
Right, but is there a way to get them outside of the raid? Some drop % from the Archon's Forge or certain patrol enemies or something?
You can buy fragments from Shiro, I believe but it'll cost you a fragment key and some glimmer so it's not really moving you in the direction that you want.
Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
Right, but is there a way to get them outside of the raid? Some drop % from the Archon's Forge or certain patrol enemies or something?
No, they are purely a raid-only loot drop. There was also no way to get moldering shards outside of King's Fall.
The New Monarchy vendor is selling a HC with Explosive rounds, rangefinder, hammer forged which is decent.
Main drawback for this one is that it's a low impact archetype, which means you will only be able to 1-shot shanks at your level or below.
My stolen pride is also low impact, so at 371 light I could 1 shot shanks everywhere except the final encounter.
High ROF helps make up for it a little bit (and it is amazing when you CAN 1shot them), but it means you'd probably need HC reload gloves or a reload boosting skill.
If only Fatebringer was infusable, even if it lost the arc damage
Is there a mid-impact archetype hand cannon with explosive rounds and spray and play possible? Anything from the gunsmith I should get a work order for?
Yup, that would be the Palindrome from the Crucible vendor. It can roll Spray and Play and Explosive Rounds in separate perk slots.
Has anyone tried fabian strategy since the expansion hit? Curious if it got any better. >,>
Finished off most of my old quests, I hit 352 finally but it's a slog. Gotta start hitting heroic strikes.
Fabian is hilarious. I used it for most of the story missions and I seriously think I could have run some of those missions without reloading once with that thing.
The New Monarchy vendor is selling a HC with Explosive rounds, rangefinder, hammer forged which is decent.
Main drawback for this one is that it's a low impact archetype, which means you will only be able to 1-shot shanks at your level or below.
My stolen pride is also low impact, so at 371 light I could 1 shot shanks everywhere except the final encounter.
High ROF helps make up for it a little bit (and it is amazing when you CAN 1shot them), but it means you'd probably need HC reload gloves or a reload boosting skill.
If only Fatebringer was infusable, even if it lost the arc damage
Is there a mid-impact archetype hand cannon with explosive rounds and spray and play possible? Anything from the gunsmith I should get a work order for?
Gaheris-D is what you'll want to pick up from the gunsmith. Judith-D if you want a high impact one.
e: Mag size on it is fairly low, so I'd look for a reload perk on it too. Something like:
Danger Close or Crowd Control
Spray and Play
Explosive Rounds
Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
Right, but is there a way to get them outside of the raid? Some drop % from the Archon's Forge or certain patrol enemies or something?
No, they are purely a raid-only loot drop. There was also no way to get moldering shards outside of King's Fall.
Not that it matters (because I don't think anyone ever did it) but I am pretty sure I remember Eris would trade you moldering shards for Hadium flakes.
Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
Right, but is there a way to get them outside of the raid? Some drop % from the Archon's Forge or certain patrol enemies or something?
No, they are purely a raid-only loot drop. There was also no way to get moldering shards outside of King's Fall.
Not that it matters (because I don't think anyone ever did it) but I am pretty sure I remember Eris would trade you moldering shards for Hadium flakes.
That's right, she totally did. And I think I farmed Hadium Flakes for a couple Moldering Shards before the raid launched because we didn't know exactly what they did.
I guess that makes it weird that there's no way to get SIVA key fragments outside of the raid.
CoE is dropping up to 365. That is something that I did not know.
Before RoI, I hadn't played since SRL was introduced and had to Google wtf CoE was. Then I remembered I never finished any of the Prison shit and now I feel bad. Thanks for that
We did CoE last night. Based on total time investment, I'm not sure it makes any sense compared to just running heroic strikes.
Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
Right, but is there a way to get them outside of the raid? Some drop % from the Archon's Forge or certain patrol enemies or something?
No, they are purely a raid-only loot drop. There was also no way to get moldering shards outside of King's Fall.
Not that it matters (because I don't think anyone ever did it) but I am pretty sure I remember Eris would trade you moldering shards for Hadium flakes.
That's right, she totally did. And I think I farmed Hadium Flakes for a couple Moldering Shards before the raid launched because we didn't know exactly what they did.
I guess that makes it weird that there's no way to get SIVA key fragments outside of the raid.
Given how moldering shards worked I kinda doubt there were really many takers on them after the first couple weeks of the raid being out.
SIVA keys seem like a way better mechanic to avoid getting fucked by RNG.
Is there any known way to farm SIVA cache keys or fragments other than during the raid itself?
The first time you beat each boss in the raid each week you get 3 fragments. Every time after that in a week the amount of fragments you could receive from each boss will get less and less until you are getting 0-1 fragments from each boss.
Right, but is there a way to get them outside of the raid? Some drop % from the Archon's Forge or certain patrol enemies or something?
No, they are purely a raid-only loot drop. There was also no way to get moldering shards outside of King's Fall.
Not that it matters (because I don't think anyone ever did it) but I am pretty sure I remember Eris would trade you moldering shards for Hadium flakes.
That's right, she totally did. And I think I farmed Hadium Flakes for a couple Moldering Shards before the raid launched because we didn't know exactly what they did.
I guess that makes it weird that there's no way to get SIVA key fragments outside of the raid.
Given how moldering shards worked I kinda doubt there were really many takers on them after the first couple weeks of the raid being out.
SIVA keys seem like a way better mechanic to avoid getting fucked by RNG.
Very much in agreement. I went in with 2 keys (from the storyline completions) and by the time we knocked off, part way through the last boss, I had 16 fragments, so almost enough for two more bonus rolls. The fact that you get fragments out of *all chests* not just bosses and that there appears to be quite a few "hidden chests" and normal chests (I think we opened 4-5) makes for a decent supply for extra loot rolls or rerolling perks.
On my lunch break today I popped onto Destiny and joined @Wassermelone to try to farm some exotics by killing SIVA infected Iron Lords. I got one and he got a bajillion. I decided that I needed to go spend time praying to RN Jesus and try again this evening.
If it makes you feel better, I got nothing worth keeping
Not even anything higher light to infuse into existing gear?
Actually? Not really, only one of them was higher light by only one light. Still It got me up a point from 371 to 372, but thats only because I was practically making out with the end of that light bar
But it seemed like a bit of a waste. I just want that damn trespasser or nemesis star. I like both sidearms and machine guns and it wont give me either. The only new exotic I've gotten was Frost-eez and those are broken. Sadness
Explosive rounds are probably going to be extra-good for this raid.
You want to try and avoid too many precision kills (DAMN YOU SEEKER BASTARDS!).
Lots of clusters of mobs.
Shanks can't be crit.
Now I really want a good hand cannon or scout with explosive rounds... Any recommendations?
The Vanguard Quartermaster sells the Angel's Advocate, it's one of the few Legendaries in the MIDA archetype:
Red Dot ORA-2 / Ranged Lens RLR5 / OEG Riflescope
Outlaw / Take a Knee
Smallbore / Explosive Rounds
Reactive Reload
Outlaw + Reactive Reload pair very well together. (I've been using with Chain of Woe for hilariously fast reloads and near-constant damage boost.) However, Outlaw doesn't proc very often with Explosive Rounds (and avoiding headshots is kinda the point, right?). Still, if you like the MIDA type, ER + RR is very solid.
so how is the nightfall this week? i'm on the cusp of hitting 360 and wondering if i can maybe get it in last minute. thoughts from those that have run it already?
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If Firefly explosions would insta-kill the seeker thingers, I'd totally keep using my Cocytus (that has the old vendor Hung Jury rolls).
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Explosive rounds/Full auto
Smallbore/Third eye
Crowd control
I don't know what the perks are of the version the vendor sells .
Main drawback for this one is that it's a low impact archetype, which means you will only be able to 1-shot shanks at your level or below.
My stolen pride is also low impact, so at 371 light I could 1 shot shanks everywhere except the final encounter.
High ROF helps make up for it a little bit (and it is amazing when you CAN 1shot them), but it means you'd probably need HC reload gloves or a reload boosting skill.
If only Fatebringer was infusable, even if it lost the arc damage
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If it makes you feel better, I got nothing worth keeping
Not even anything higher light to infuse into existing gear?
Is there a mid-impact archetype hand cannon with explosive rounds and spray and play possible? Anything from the gunsmith I should get a work order for?
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You can buy fragments from Shiro, I believe but it'll cost you a fragment key and some glimmer so it's not really moving you in the direction that you want.
Finished off most of my old quests, I hit 352 finally but it's a slog. Gotta start hitting heroic strikes.
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Yup, that would be the Palindrome from the Crucible vendor. It can roll Spray and Play and Explosive Rounds in separate perk slots.
It is pretty solid now.
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Yeah it's a lot of fun now, used it in the the raid and it worked well
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Fabian is hilarious. I used it for most of the story missions and I seriously think I could have run some of those missions without reloading once with that thing.
Ill Will - crucible drop - apparently it was a reward for crimson doubles in Feb. not sure if it's still available as a drop?
Judith-D - weapon smith
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EDIT: Whoops you looked for mid-impact. I'll edit the results.
Gaheris-D is what you'll want to pick up from the gunsmith. Judith-D if you want a high impact one.
e: Mag size on it is fairly low, so I'd look for a reload perk on it too. Something like:
Danger Close or Crowd Control
Spray and Play
Explosive Rounds
Not that it matters (because I don't think anyone ever did it) but I am pretty sure I remember Eris would trade you moldering shards for Hadium flakes.
Ill Will is still available as I got it very early in this latest expansion. I think a Vanguard level up maybe?
Crucible End of Match rewards for Ill Will. That reload speed though...
That's right, she totally did. And I think I farmed Hadium Flakes for a couple Moldering Shards before the raid launched because we didn't know exactly what they did.
I guess that makes it weird that there's no way to get SIVA key fragments outside of the raid.
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We did CoE last night. Based on total time investment, I'm not sure it makes any sense compared to just running heroic strikes.
I'm beginning to think that the devs said to themselves,"Huh, wonder how a drunk sloth would reload a handcannon?", and the Ill Will was born.
Given how moldering shards worked I kinda doubt there were really many takers on them after the first couple weeks of the raid being out.
SIVA keys seem like a way better mechanic to avoid getting fucked by RNG.
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Very much in agreement. I went in with 2 keys (from the storyline completions) and by the time we knocked off, part way through the last boss, I had 16 fragments, so almost enough for two more bonus rolls. The fact that you get fragments out of *all chests* not just bosses and that there appears to be quite a few "hidden chests" and normal chests (I think we opened 4-5) makes for a decent supply for extra loot rolls or rerolling perks.
Gotta say I was surprised at how lucky we were at finding them.
Actually? Not really, only one of them was higher light by only one light. Still It got me up a point from 371 to 372, but thats only because I was practically making out with the end of that light bar
But it seemed like a bit of a waste. I just want that damn trespasser or nemesis star. I like both sidearms and machine guns and it wont give me either. The only new exotic I've gotten was Frost-eez and those are broken. Sadness
- Red Dot ORA-2 / Ranged Lens RLR5 / OEG Riflescope
- Outlaw / Take a Knee
- Smallbore / Explosive Rounds
- Reactive Reload
Outlaw + Reactive Reload pair very well together. (I've been using with Chain of Woe for hilariously fast reloads and near-constant damage boost.) However, Outlaw doesn't proc very often with Explosive Rounds (and avoiding headshots is kinda the point, right?). Still, if you like the MIDA type, ER + RR is very solid."Cant remember the name" Unending Deluge w/Surplus (thanks metaghost!)
Palindrome w/ER+Spray and Play
I also need more Marks for the MIDA clone...
Huge thanks everybody for chiming in with opinions and recommendations! =D
Edit: Gunsmith weapons have the right perks, but I don't think I can rock a HC with 6 rounds. x.x
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The HMG is Unending Deluge.
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Maybe like an Exotic artifact with increased chance for purple drops?
You can get three a day guaranteed through getting gold in a daily public event with each character.
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