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[No Man's Sky] Mine birds, shoot asteroids, build bases??? [nsf56k]

SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentitytrying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
edited November 2016 in Games and Technology
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Massive November update like whoa
- normal, survival, creative modes
- base building
- a freighter???

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Rave reviews:
Disco11 wrote: »
Game keeps finding new ways to disappoint me.
Tube wrote: »
Nah it's a pile of horseshit. It's not even "it's not what they promised!", that isn't the issue. It's just not good. The fundamental design of the game doesn't work well.
Houn wrote: »
OK, this is getting really, really boring.

But what is it?
No Man's Sky is a procedurally generated disappointment engine, featuring a very large number of stars to visit, each with some number of planets to explore, all populated by technically unique but suspiciously similar disappointments.

It was developed by Hello Games, a tiny indie studio co-founded by Sean Murray, aka Satan, the Devil, who sold everything you would have liked about it to Sony, also the Devil, for 60USD.

But for real:
There are a lot of people legitimately disappointed with the game and/or Hello Games' communication. The game definitely doesn't "feel" like a "full price AAA" game, and a lot of promised features are very cut down or removed entirely.

For a thorough catalogue I recommend One Man's Lie, which lists everything ever said about the game. Some of it is reasonable, some of it is... less so.

Perhaps it is better to start with what No Man's Sky is not:
- it is not Star Citizen With Colors: this ain't a space sim; the flight mechanics are extremely simplistic, the combat is light, you aren't even allowed to crash into things without mods. Oh and no, there is no multiplayer.
- it is not Minecraft In Space: while the (natural) environments are fully destructible down to a base layer, you won't be building anything or making permanent changes. There's no ecology or farming or stuff like that. UPDATE: the Foundation patch has added a base building blocks thing and some farming type stuff.
- it is not Ark Except Bigger: the survival aspect is not very challenging (nearly nonexistent, really), you will almost never be in a truly dangerous situation, your upgrades will make you more resilient but it's more of a convenience thing. UPDATE: the Foundation patch has added a Survival mode that is quite hard for the first couple of hours.
- it is not Skyrim But Also Spaceships: it is like Skyrim if you took out the quests, the equipment, most NPCs, much of the combat, the cities, and the story. You basically get to keep the plant collection.

What the game actually is:
Here's what I put in my Steam review, which was rated highly unhelpful within minutes.
This game is a space walking simulator. It's a galactic berry picker. It is boring.

It's also amazing. If it happens to be the sort of thing you like.

If you like survival sims, or space sims, or building things, or complex combat, or varied NPC interactions, or sick loot... this doesn't have those things.

The game elements serve only as the lightest incentives to wander around collecting stuff, with the reward being the wandering, not the stuff. If you like cresting a ridge and seeing a valley spread out below you, the sunset tinting it vibrant colors; if your heart beats as you see a faint fluorescent glow emanating from a cave entrance that you almost missed; if you have to dive into a lake to see what's beneath its surface; if you long to point your ship at a distant star to see what worlds you find there: you might like this game.

I've put 36 72 hours into it and I've not even maybe gotten halfway through the things I want to do, and seen only a fraction of the things I hope to see.

More specific stuff:
The gameplay elements are extremely repetitive; you'll come across almost identical buildings, harvest the same minerals, see the same freighters, have the same conversations, do the same puzzles, etc. It is 100% about the journey from one place to the next, seeing the sights along the way. Your most important tool is the screenshot button.

There are no items to collect besides minerals and the occasional upgraded multitool, so there are no treasures the bottom of a lake or in the deepest recesses of a cave or on some distant moon. I cannot stress enough that this game is barely a game; there are things you do, yes, but really they're only there to get you to wander around a planet and see the sights. And they are some great sights.

The space controls are extremely arcadey; think Star Fox or Rogue Squadron. The combat is generally very simple, aside from recharging your shields mid fight, which is garbage. Combat is much like a minigame: enemy ships show up, and you can engage or try to run. But it's always just gonna be you versus a pack of 4 to 8 (maybe more) ships.

On foot (which is probably how you'll be spending most of your time), there's practically no combat. Sometimes you shoot things attacking you, but mostly you shoot rocks. The wildlife just wanders around, and there's very little interaction with anything. You can scan stuff and store it in a journal type thing, kind of like Metroid Prime.

The crafting is very limited: you have to find random blueprints, and cannot build anything otherwise. The fun comes from managing the layout of the upgrades you craft to link matching types, which makes them better.

Ship types may not affect much, if anything, so the only reasons to get different ships are 1) more cargo space, 2) looks, and 3) ship health can also vary, it turns out.

There are no maps or anything, so there's functionally no turning back. There's no storing things in a base or anything. You have your ship and your suit. Toss your junk, rip out the guts of your new stuff, always be crafting.

One of cooler gameplay things are the words: you collect words from the three alien languages, and they translate your interactions with NPCs. So you slowly understand more and more of each conversation, letting you choose your responses better. This also helps freshen up the interactions, because they are very repetitive.

In short, the game stuff is definitely lacking. But the environments and the sense of discovery are great. It's a game made for screenshots rather than streaming, I think.

Some info for when you're starting out (just one big spoiler (don't worry, it's marked) I think, but in case you want to figure stuff out on your own):
"Story" paths:
There are three "paths" you can choose to take: you can follow the call of the Atlas, you can help Nada and Polo in their research, or you can head towards the center. You can switch between the paths, and there's no urgent reason to do any of them.

Atlas path (very useful):
Worth following at least until you get the Atlas v1 pass, which lets you unlock the doors on one side of the space stations, which always have a suit inventory slot for sale.

You should hang on to the stones if you plan to complete this path (but it is possible to reacquire them if needed).

Nada/Polo path:
This will help you find black holes, which move you closer to the center.

Center path (spoiler for what is at the center):
If you're having a good time and don't really care about what is at the center, I recommend skipping this. This actual for real spoiler is included because many find it disappointing, so if you're interested in getting the game to find the big secret... maybe think twice about it?
You either get sent back to the edges or to a "new" galaxy that is pretty much the same.

Items/resources:
When you break an upgrade down it'll sometimes create a stackable version of an item used to create it, which lets you store them way more conveniently. Keep these stacks in your suit, because they will explode into individual items if your ship blows up.

You'll find there are some elements that you always want to have on you, and some rarer ones that are often used in crafting. The rare single items are not worth saving unless you are going to use one soon. Nothing is so rare that you won't find more of it.

Buildings and stuff on planets:
- drop pods contain suit inventory slots
- ruins/plaques/monoliths give you words
- transmission signals will sometimes lead you to crashed ships
- UPDATE: you can now build things! Press up on the D-pad or Z to open the build menu

New ships:
The ships may not have any differences besides looks health; some combat looking ones may have a lead indicator but maybe that's an upgrade.

Moving inventories around is a pain, but planning ahead helps.

Upgrades:
- link them

- try the plasma launcher

Scanning animals:
- birds are assholes, but if you just track them long enough while zoomed in they'll usually scan now they scan fine!
- animals out of sight will show up as grey dots while scanning; might be limited to land/water/caves, depending on which you're in
- scanner upgrades on your multitool let you "see" farther away dots
- the dots will turn red or green as you approach to indicate if the critter is something you've already scanned or not; there's a mod that adds colorblind-friendly indicators
- sometimes you'll get a floating gray dot that never materializes; this is just a bug

But enough of all that, on to the screenshots!

Experience:

- Far off worlds!
BladeX wrote: »
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Kalnaur wrote: »
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- The wonders of nature!
agoaj wrote: »
Look at this cutie
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MichaelLC wrote: »
JESUS! I mean..wow, nice to...meet you? Fuc...er, yes, lovely day we're having. Oh, yes, that's my Geiger counter.. I should, uh, be going now...Damn!
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- The convenience of automatic ship parking!
Dirtyboy wrote: »
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BladeX wrote: »
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- Regrettable purchasing decisions!
MichaelLC wrote: »
Alas, my heart was quickly tempted by another ship! A red ship! She was a real fixer-upper, but we made it:
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Maybe I shouldn't have been so hasty:
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- And more!

The galaxy awaits!

Oh and there are mods.
Satsumomo wrote: »
Has this been posted? I think it hasn't. It's a crime if it hasn't been posted: Mod that allows you to fly low on a planet. Yes, you can enter caves.

http://nomansskymods.com/mods/lowflight-by-hytek-packed/

Also recommended: Big Things, UI hotkey

Official news: (sporadically updated):
(If anyone would like to be removed from this frankenpost, or has corrections/additions/suggestions, just shoot me a PM.)

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  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    Screenshot Gallery

    I figured it might be cool to have a gallery of various posters' favorite screenshots, so just tag me and I'll update this post with 'em.
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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Whatever you can do in five combo points, I can do in three Registered User regular
    A+ primo OP! Gave me some good laughs :D

    I also thought the new thread title in my head every time I saw the old thread.

    Make Gohan Great Again!
    SurfpossumMichaelLCFencingsaxKalnaur
  • GMaster7GMaster7 Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    Solid OP and solid thread title. I was like, "Man, why did he just use the same-- oh. OH, hahaha." Whoosh.

    Played a bunch more last night. Making progress, making progress. This game is comfort food right now. I'm really settled in. Trying to get all of the fauna on ten planets and trying to make bank. I think I'll save the space combat trophy for last... have to make money, get a better ship, and then get there. In the meantime, I'll just participate in the "kill a pirate or three" stuff that I bump into naturally.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    GMaster7 wrote: »
    Solid OP and solid thread title. I was like, "Man, why did he just use the same-- oh. OH, hahaha." Whoosh.

    Played a bunch more last night. Making progress, making progress. This game is comfort food right now. I'm really settled in. Trying to get all of the fauna on ten planets and trying to make bank. I think I'll save the space combat trophy for last... have to make money, get a better ship, and then get there. In the meantime, I'll just participate in the "kill a pirate or three" stuff that I bump into naturally.

    Shooting the barges in space seems to be the best way to get the space kills. They almost constantly attack you so make sure you have enough Zinc/Iron to repair your shields and go to town on them.

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  • GMaster7GMaster7 Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    GMaster7 wrote: »
    Solid OP and solid thread title. I was like, "Man, why did he just use the same-- oh. OH, hahaha." Whoosh.

    Played a bunch more last night. Making progress, making progress. This game is comfort food right now. I'm really settled in. Trying to get all of the fauna on ten planets and trying to make bank. I think I'll save the space combat trophy for last... have to make money, get a better ship, and then get there. In the meantime, I'll just participate in the "kill a pirate or three" stuff that I bump into naturally.

    Shooting the barges in space seems to be the best way to get the space kills. They almost constantly attack you so make sure you have enough Zinc/Iron to repair your shields and go to town on them.

    I think I read that somewhere previously - thank you for the reminder. Do they just launch a bunch of fighters that you can attack?

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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    GMaster7 wrote: »
    urahonky wrote: »
    GMaster7 wrote: »
    Solid OP and solid thread title. I was like, "Man, why did he just use the same-- oh. OH, hahaha." Whoosh.

    Played a bunch more last night. Making progress, making progress. This game is comfort food right now. I'm really settled in. Trying to get all of the fauna on ten planets and trying to make bank. I think I'll save the space combat trophy for last... have to make money, get a better ship, and then get there. In the meantime, I'll just participate in the "kill a pirate or three" stuff that I bump into naturally.

    Shooting the barges in space seems to be the best way to get the space kills. They almost constantly attack you so make sure you have enough Zinc/Iron to repair your shields and go to town on them.

    I think I read that somewhere previously - thank you for the reminder. Do they just launch a bunch of fighters that you can attack?

    The barge will shoot at you (which you can destroy) and then they send about 2 - 3 ships at you at a time. I think you have to clear 4-5 waves until they stop bothering you.

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  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    An update on my ez$ planet, since the sentinels are classified as frenzied it seems the planet is labeled extreme as my survival thing is going up.

    Edit: only issue, the pearls respawn but the game realizes you've already collected them so when you open the plant thing you can't actually grab the Pearl that shows. An easy way I found to tell which are respawns is there's a little puff of dirt animation that happens when you approach if it's a respawn.

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Whatever you can do in five combo points, I can do in three Registered User regular
    Hey, something the new patch did that's cool. You no longer get voice notifications about your life support draining to 75 and 50%. I didn't let it go down to 25%, but I imagine you get the voice notification on that one still.

    Make Gohan Great Again!
    Zilla360
  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Finished the ATLAS path. Interesting. Now just flying around, collecting the language stones and seeing the sights.

    HEY YOU GUYS!
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    Pretty purple planet provides perfect pauses.
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    Same planet during the day. Lots of trees and vegetation.
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    Nobeard wrote: »
    You can even mount some non-animals...

    Steam:MichaelLC
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  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Hey, something the new patch did that's cool. You no longer get voice notifications about your life support draining to 75 and 50%. I didn't let it go down to 25%, but I imagine you get the voice notification on that one still.

    Life support is at 25%, your hazards are still at 75/50/25. Which is okay for me.

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  • Skull2185Skull2185 Whatever you can do in five combo points, I can do in three Registered User regular
    Man, I sure hope I find a planet with copper, or space turds full of copper soon. Picked up a new ship, and I'm down to just the base hyperdrive again. Got everything I need for the Tau except for copper... Being able to only hop one system over is the pits, man! Not that it matters in the end, but I do want to be able to say I made it to the center.

    Also made it to rank ten in the kill sentinels milestone, and no trophy popped...

    Make Gohan Great Again!
  • Toxic PickleToxic Pickle Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Hey, something the new patch did that's cool. You no longer get voice notifications about your life support draining to 75 and 50%. I didn't let it go down to 25%, but I imagine you get the voice notification on that one still.

    I would like for there to be no voice notifications at all. Whoever thought that was a good idea apparently loved how cars in the 80s and early 90s would have a voice repeatedly telling you 'Your door is ajar'. It just grates on me like crazy having it repeat everything I do (refilling shields, life support, whatever, while also mentioning things that are low, inventory full, AAAAARGH).

    Just have warning and confirmation sounds for fuck's sake.

    BladeX
  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Suits are probably designed by the Gek. Want to sell you upgrades you don't need.

    There Vy"keen don't want to be distracted in battle.

    Nobeard wrote: »
    You can even mount some non-animals...

    Steam:MichaelLC
  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Hey, something the new patch did that's cool. You no longer get voice notifications about your life support draining to 75 and 50%. I didn't let it go down to 25%, but I imagine you get the voice notification on that one still.

    I would like for there to be no voice notifications at all. Whoever thought that was a good idea apparently loved how cars in the 80s and early 90s would have a voice repeatedly telling you 'Your door is ajar'. It just grates on me like crazy having it repeat everything I do (refilling shields, life support, whatever, while also mentioning things that are low, inventory full, AAAAARGH).

    Just have warning and confirmation sounds for fuck's sake.

    PS4 or PC? There's a mod on PC, it's glorious. I didn't realize how sick of hearing the protection falling voice and units received a million times until there was no voice.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Whatever you can do in five combo points, I can do in three Registered User regular
    Spending almost two hours trying to find the last animal you need for 100% is very demoralizing... just want to say fuck it and leave, but I also cant find a goddamn beacon or landing pad either! My ship is so far away...

    Make Gohan Great Again!
    BladeX
  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Spending almost two hours trying to find the last animal you need for 100% is very demoralizing... just want to say fuck it and leave, but I also cant find a goddamn beacon or landing pad either! My ship is so far away...

    I've yet to 100% a planet, I find it so fucking frustrating I just give up. I even have the TemplarGFX Wild Life mod installed which supposedly does a better job with the animal distribution and I'm still at 11/12 animals on a planet I went from 0 to 6 stars on the extreme planet progress...

    PoketpixieSatsumomourahonky
  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    Sometimes the last species can be a real pain; I've completed 10 or 11 now, and what seemed to work for me:
    - drop down into caves and water occasionally; critters don't show up on the scan unless you're in the same "type" of area
    - after a bit of looking around, pack up and fly somewhere else. Planets are huge and spending an hour looking around on foot only covers a tiny area
    - day/night cycles and possibly storms cause different species to hide/appear, so check various places again during different times
    - if you get really sick of it, just move on to a new planet; I really didn't like doing this, but in the end there's no real reason to try and complete a specific planet when there are so many others. Sometimes I would spend hours on a planet only to find everything on a new one in thirty minutes.

    is this how nations are born
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  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    I figured this planet would be easy, I'm on it completing the extreme achievement as it's the easiest "extreme" planet ever. No water, no storms, no flora to hide in, flying around finding new areas to collect balls and explore new caves for the pearls and still that last little bugger is elusive.

    Edit: and it doesn't help that I seem to have some weird ass bug where animals are being tagged as undiscovered, so I scan them, the game gives me the 200 space bucks, it shows up in the discoveries to upload but a message pops up acknowledging it's not a new species...

    Hmm it might actually be the mod causing these issues, going to try without it. As I think it makes subspecies within the same species which is kind of cool but a pain when trying to go for 100%.

    BladeX on
  • nwrabenwrabe Insidious Squid Registered User regular
    BladeX wrote: »
    I figured this planet would be easy, I'm on it completing the extreme achievement as it's the easiest "extreme" planet ever. No water, no storms, no flora to hide in, flying around finding new areas to collect balls and explore new caves for the pearls and still that last little bugger is elusive.

    Edit: and it doesn't help that I seem to have some weird ass bug where animals are being tagged as undiscovered, so I scan them, the game gives me the 200 space bucks, it shows up in the discoveries to upload but a message pops up acknowledging it's not a new species...

    Hmm it might actually be the mod causing these issues, going to try without it. As I think it makes subspecies within the same species which is kind of cool but a pain when trying to go for 100%.

    It might not be a bug or a mod. There are often 2 variations of each species of land animal (never seen it for flying or swimming ones) that are tracked separately. Think male/female versions, though the gender terms they use are more varied.

    If you scan one you get credit for discovering the species as well as that variation. That gives you the 200 units plus 1500-2500 more when you upload it. The second variation will still get the undiscovered dot until you scan it and you'll get the same unit bonus, but the message will say it belongs to an already discovered species.

    In short, if it says there are 10 species on a planet, you might have to scan 16+ critters to "catch them all". (There are usually 1-2 in the air, 1-2 in the water, and then 2 variations of the rest.)

    On the bright side, animals tend to travel in mixed gender groups, so you can usually get both at the same time.

  • Skull2185Skull2185 Whatever you can do in five combo points, I can do in three Registered User regular
    Decided to leave that planet. Still couldn't find any copper, so I decided to just jump to the next system with the standard hyperdrive... and that one system is too far away from me to jump to. Had to switch to free roam mode.

    Make Gohan Great Again!
  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    nwrabe wrote: »
    BladeX wrote: »
    I figured this planet would be easy, I'm on it completing the extreme achievement as it's the easiest "extreme" planet ever. No water, no storms, no flora to hide in, flying around finding new areas to collect balls and explore new caves for the pearls and still that last little bugger is elusive.

    Edit: and it doesn't help that I seem to have some weird ass bug where animals are being tagged as undiscovered, so I scan them, the game gives me the 200 space bucks, it shows up in the discoveries to upload but a message pops up acknowledging it's not a new species...

    Hmm it might actually be the mod causing these issues, going to try without it. As I think it makes subspecies within the same species which is kind of cool but a pain when trying to go for 100%.

    It might not be a bug or a mod. There are often 2 variations of each species of land animal (never seen it for flying or swimming ones) that are tracked separately. Think male/female versions, though the gender terms they use are more varied.

    If you scan one you get credit for discovering the species as well as that variation. That gives you the 200 units plus 1500-2500 more when you upload it. The second variation will still get the undiscovered dot until you scan it and you'll get the same unit bonus, but the message will say it belongs to an already discovered species.

    In short, if it says there are 10 species on a planet, you might have to scan 16+ critters to "catch them all". (There are usually 1-2 in the air, 1-2 in the water, and then 2 variations of the rest.)

    On the bright side, animals tend to travel in mixed gender groups, so you can usually get both at the same time.

    Well that makes a heck of a lot of sense, I was getting to the point of tired where basic shit was making no sense to me so I probably should have called it a night.

  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    I've updated the gallery with some stuff that stuck out at me from the last thread; @BladeX @DarkPrimus @Delphinidaes @Donnicton @Fawst @Fiatil @Houn @Kalnaur @MuddBudd @Muffinatron congratulations, you're all winners, by which I mean I've stolen your screenshots and if you've got a problem with it, then TOUGH.* And of course, if anyone has anything they want to show off there, I'm happy to add more.

    In other news, I very quickly found a cooler ship after installing the theta warp drive, because of course.
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    Haven't had much of a chance to play this week; I'm hoping to see a couple new planets this weekend, though.

    * as usual, if anyone doesn't want to be included or wants me to change something or add some info, just let me know.

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    FiatilBladeX
  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Neat!

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    This thread title is what I wanted the last thread title to be.

    :+1:

    Houn on
  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    BladeX wrote: »
    Skull2185 wrote: »
    Spending almost two hours trying to find the last animal you need for 100% is very demoralizing... just want to say fuck it and leave, but I also cant find a goddamn beacon or landing pad either! My ship is so far away...

    I've yet to 100% a planet, I find it so fucking frustrating I just give up. I even have the TemplarGFX Wild Life mod installed which supposedly does a better job with the animal distribution and I'm still at 11/12 animals on a planet I went from 0 to 6 stars on the extreme planet progress...

    Yeah I had 10/10 once but apparently I was still missing the other gender or whatever so it wouldn't give it to me.

    After that I said fuck that noise.

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    Have they added a way to turn off the UI entirely on PS4 yet? Since the game is primarily a screenshot generator, it'd be nice to have a screenshot mode.

  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    I get that some features had to be removed to meet deadlines or because they didn't work well or whatever, but could you make it less obvious features were removed? Although the Jetpack being in a stupid spot making it impossible to "link" with the upgrades makes a lot more sense now.

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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    I think I'm missing it. What's the thing that's been removed, and how is it related to the jet-pack?

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  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    Houn wrote: »
    Have they added a way to turn off the UI entirely on PS4 yet? Since the game is primarily a screenshot generator, it'd be nice to have a screenshot mode.
    I think you can turn some of it off on PS4 with the D-pad, but the location icons stay regardless (I spent a bit of time googling this because I was very surprised the PS4 didn't have a HUD option in the menu).
    Delduwath wrote: »
    I think I'm missing it. What's the thing that's been removed, and how is it related to the jet-pack?
    You can't ever actually build the base components of stuff because you can't demolish it, but you can still "learn" their blueprints. You can't link upgrades to the jetpack because its default spot doesn't give you any room to do so.

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  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    Actually the placement of the base items on the suit is randomised, I think it includes the jetpack.

  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Have they added a way to turn off the UI entirely on PS4 yet? Since the game is primarily a screenshot generator, it'd be nice to have a screenshot mode.
    I think you can turn some of it off on PS4 with the D-pad, but the location icons stay regardless (I spent a bit of time googling this because I was very surprised the PS4 didn't have a HUD option in the menu).
    Delduwath wrote: »
    I think I'm missing it. What's the thing that's been removed, and how is it related to the jet-pack?
    You can't ever actually build the base components of stuff because you can't demolish it, but you can still "learn" their blueprints. You can't link upgrades to the jetpack because its default spot doesn't give you any room to do so.

    Yea, it kind of hints at some sort of exosuit building or different way of upgrading. Any screen shot or video I've seen of the default items has jetpack top left, hazard protection to the right of it and life support directly underneath.

    If I was able to built the life support system I learned in the screenshot I'd have it away from the jetpack for the sake of linking all the upgrades. Not sure if linking makes a huge difference but looks nicer.

  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    Ah! Got it. Thanks!

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Delduwath wrote: »
    I think I'm missing it. What's the thing that's been removed, and how is it related to the jet-pack?

    I just got those too.

    I think that it's curious those would be given as tech upgrades when when all get them standard. Why would they have those if we were supposed to build something more?

    Nobeard wrote: »
    You can even mount some non-animals...

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  • HounHoun Registered User regular
    MichaelLC wrote: »
    Delduwath wrote: »
    I think I'm missing it. What's the thing that's been removed, and how is it related to the jet-pack?

    I just got those too.

    I think that it's curious those would be given as tech upgrades when when all get them standard. Why would they have those if we were supposed to build something more?

    I seem to recall some theory/maybe interviews that suits might have been like ships at one point in development, in that you could find or buy new ones to get more slots, instead of the current "add a slot" system.

    Surfpossum
  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    BladeX wrote: »
    Surfpossum wrote: »
    Houn wrote: »
    Have they added a way to turn off the UI entirely on PS4 yet? Since the game is primarily a screenshot generator, it'd be nice to have a screenshot mode.
    I think you can turn some of it off on PS4 with the D-pad, but the location icons stay regardless (I spent a bit of time googling this because I was very surprised the PS4 didn't have a HUD option in the menu).
    Delduwath wrote: »
    I think I'm missing it. What's the thing that's been removed, and how is it related to the jet-pack?
    You can't ever actually build the base components of stuff because you can't demolish it, but you can still "learn" their blueprints. You can't link upgrades to the jetpack because its default spot doesn't give you any room to do so.

    Yea, it kind of hints at some sort of exosuit building or different way of upgrading. Any screen shot or video I've seen of the default items has jetpack top left, hazard protection to the right of it and life support directly underneath.

    If I was able to built the life support system I learned in the screenshot I'd have it away from the jetpack for the sake of linking all the upgrades. Not sure if linking makes a huge difference but looks nicer.
    I think the jetpack upgrades get a pretty substantial boost from getting linked. Same for the mining beam coolant ones. Haven't really used much else so I dunno how big the bonuses are, but: basically how it works is that the more things (upgrade or component) that are attached to a thing, the better that thing is. Some specifics in this post.

    So you don't "need" to connect to the base component because the upgrades can boost each other.

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    BladeX
  • BladeXBladeX Registered User regular
    So touching the base component really has no bearing as long as the upgrades touch, also didn't know about the square with strong one in the middle being the best for bonuses, would have stuck my powerful multi tool upgrades in the middle.

  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    Well, I think the base component also counts for bonuses when it's linked, but yeah you can still power up your jetpackness without linking to the base jetpack component.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus My baby, please show you to me fast. Registered User regular
    edited September 2016
    While I was able to previously play for an hour or so before memory leaks caused massive frame drops, now I can't play more than 10-15 minutes at a time before this happens. I wonder if it's something to do with the planets being extreme somehow and having lots of particles going on(one with extreme acid rain storms, the other with windstorms) but until I find a planet that doesn't have this kind of shit going down I won't know for sure.

    EDIT: Nope, on a moon that doesn't have any crazy atmosphere animations going on and I'm still not able to play more than a few minutes before it becomes a slideshow. I haven't tinkered with my settings or anything at all, why the fuck is this happening.

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  • SurfpossumSurfpossum A nonentity trying to preserve the anonymity he so richly deserves.Registered User regular
    I feel like I've been getting slightly worse performance as well, but I just reinstalled everything on a new harddrive and so a bunch of my settings got reset. Seemed to get better when I put it back to borderless and stuff.

    Supposedly on PS4 clearing out some kind of cache helps, maybe the same is true for PC?

    Some more planets that I came across this weekend:

    This one had an underwater cave system underneath the first layer of water, which I thought was pretty neat.
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    This one was causing massive lag as I was flying over it; not sure if it was warm in the room and overpowering my fans, or if it had a bunch of flora that would load while in flight.
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    This one just had some neat colors.
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  • GMaster7GMaster7 Registered User regular
    Played a bunch this weekend on PS4 and took a bunch of nice screenshots. Only need 4 more 100%-fauna planets, a few more starship kills, and to warp 20 or so times (and I'm holding a ton of warp cells).

    Once I platinum it, I'll put it down for a while and see what HG's updates bring. But I've really gotten my money's worth at this point, and I've really enjoyed going for the Platinum trophy.

    Buying a nice ship and really upgrading the hell out of it and myself once I cracked a few million credits made a huge difference. Space combat is actually a blast now.

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