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US Presidential Election: I could have, but didn't
Elki
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The thread will be gaining pages in much shorter time as we get closer to the end, and none of us want to read pages of tangential discussions that have little to do with the topic on hand, so try to stay on-topic.
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There are laws protecting candidates from being prosecuted during the election process (and presidency?), in order to protect them against the current candidate/others from trumping up charges against them in order to win the election.
Specifically for example, say Trump becomes president. During his second term election, he can't sic the NSA after the opposite candidate to win by default.
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As far as it's possible to be in politics, Hillary Clinton is squeaky clean. And yet...
But see people think she's guilty of things, so that's equivelent to the numerous actual crimes Donald Trump has openly admitted to committing.
AMERICA!
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Ideally, yes the world would allow that.
As experience has taught us, and the existence of the law, it is needed.
Is a form of separation of the Executive and Legislative Branch from the Judicial Branch, to let them do their job instead of being the President's hounds. That's why is important.
Bleh. That's very disheartening.
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So is Trump getting this far in the process.
'MERICA
I see now that they're thinking of making Christie do something for the second debate prep, but maybe we hoped too hard that he would oust Conway.
It blows my goddamn mind.
I'm not a fan, but Jesus H. Christ I wouldn't vote for Trump or throw away a vote on a third party candidate. I'll vote for her in a heartbeat. It's not even a contest.
I don't get how he got the appeal he has. I really don't. The same people voting for him now are the ones that were bitching about him years ago when he got fired from his TV show for whatever it was he said then, saying "yeah he's trash, he deserved it"
Now he "tells it like it is"
Fucking. Weird.
they may stick with the team they've got just to show that the reports are wrong and that those filthy journos don't know what they're talking about.
Is easy to explain: People just hate the Beltway establishment that much. Never heard about "cut your nose to spite your face"?
Because that hate was probably engendered over years, if not decades. And voting for her in the face of that hate might make them have to consider that not only were they lied to about her, but that they bought into it all the same.
People dig in their heels because they don't like to admit being wrong.
Do not engage the Watermelons.
It's insane, I mean I've had family members tell me if I vote for her that I "had better not ever tell them".
Whatevs though, not voting for an orange racist, especially when I'm young enough to be drafted if he pulls us into a war.
That plan would seem to be supported by the fact that Trump is angry about anyone on his staff suggesting he didn't "nail it" on Monday.
Edit: My favorite line in that article is a Trump ally describing him as someone who can't be told a stove is hot, but must touch it himself.
This stuck at me: Emphasis is mine, but public televised eating-disorder-inducing fat-shaming being spun as "cajoling" is 100% CNN.
It was a glorious 2 days. He didn't even say hello to me on Tuesday.
Thankfully he knows not to talk Trump at me because I just can't even, but I can still hear his ignorant nonsense.
Welp, tonight they covered Newsweek's story on Trump's ties with Cuba and Clinton's reaction to it.
Finally! Geez!
"Tells it like it is" is full of shit because whenever he says something too batshit for even the right, his followers go "Well, he didn't really mean it."
christ, even that's framed as if Clinton came up with the story rather than her campaign reacting to the reports.
Next up, stories on how he 'bamboozled' the Cuban embargo, or committed rampant 'tax shenanigans'.
They want to give him control over nukes.
It's really, REALLY weird. I was vaguely aware at first that they always seemed to mention Clinton and didn't cover any of the many, varied and colourful Trump nonsense that popped up, but it really hit me a couple of weeks back when they had three stories speculating on Clinton's health in the space of a week - without once mentioning the investigation into the Trump foundation. For comparison, that investigation was headline news on BBC.
They also tried to frame the debate as having no clear winner and skipped over a bunch of Trump's howlers.
Yeah or they are just bigots. If the Trump show(esp in the already pretty dog whistle heavy GOP Primary) demonstrated everything its that the number of just straight up bigots that are otherwise living fairly ordinary lives in this country is much higher than many are willing to admit.
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Seriously, need new reaction buttons.
@Elki
Can I recommend "That's so Trump" for one of them? It's a callback, and topical!
we should build a wall. keep those extra pages out.
I don't think this is actually true? I'm certainly willing to be corrected, though; do you have specific laws that I should be looking at?
Quickly off the top of my head;
Executive/Deliberative process privilege.
I thought the rule was no negative reaction buttons
Might be different for Presidential candidates though.
What reaction button would signify massive alcoholic consumption to follow?
Someone should map "percent likely to vote for Trump by county" against "nuclear fallout area in a 500 warhead exchange."
I suggest hammering that point on any of your friends who are thinking Johnson.