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[Phalla] Fryhunt! Day 6 / GAME OVER

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    JPants wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    JPants wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    JPants wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    discrider wrote: »
    Personally, I doubt JFP's claim that no scum have died because the puppetry ability appears to have vanished the day an extra kill appeared.
    Makes me think Green had that ability and, as it was used on the amulet holder, that it was a mafia ability.
    I'd feel safer with the amulet on the called vig/seer.

    1) You have both JFP and Austin (our conditional vig) saying that no mafia have died. You doubt both?

    2) I agree. The amulet should be passed to Austin

    JFP said none of the first 6 are mafia. Austin said none of the first 3. Green was in the second three so JFP could be wrong without Austin being wrong.

    I thought Austin's whole thing was "I can kill if no mafia died in the last two days"? And we're on day 3...

    His ability is available at night, if no mafia died in the past 2 days. So Night 2, when there were no mafia deaths D1, N1, D2, his ability activated. The only deaths for D1, N1, D2 were Kilnaga, Cyth, and WA criminal. His ability checks at the beginning of the night.

    JFP claims his ability checks/fires on Odd Days so at the top of Day 3, there were 6 people dead (same 3 austin checked plus the 3 that died N2) and then he gets his results.

    This whole Day/Night thing is messing with me.

    OK, whatever, I trust you all :P.

    So we have Austin who says no one died in D1, N1, D2, and that he killed... someone, Green? on N2. And he can only shoot again on N....4?

    Then we have J4P saying no mafia died in D1, N1, D2, N2.

    Is that right?

    I'm not clear with @AustinP0027 if he could then fire again N3 assuming STILL no mafia deaths.... or if it has a 2 day recharge as well. That was unclear.

    Otherwise yes, your summary looks right.

    Unless I'm reading it way wrong, it's a 2day recharge so I won't get a shot again until D4 if no Mafia are dead.

    I suggest you clarify this with the host sooner rather than later.
    Also, I still feel that JFP needs to get a clarification.

    If all abilities happen simultaneously then he shouldn't get a read in anyone who dies at night. So unless there is an order of operations with his power, he should only have gotten a read on the same people that I did to trigger my kill

    Um...
    Info abilities appear to resolve before kills, but results go out after kills.
    Not sure if a power that gives blanket info would then give the game state after kills when the results are sent out, or before kills, when the targeted abilities (like my dream power) resolve.

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    I've asked. Will let everyone know what I get back.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    4. Info/protection phase: other actions that do not involve the possibility of a player dying resolve
    5. Killing phase: any night kills (including the Witch Coven’s Murder) resolve

    Day phase order of operations
    1. Results phase: any results of the night, private or public, are posted

    Does this imply that every info ability in the game will generate results prior to a night's kill phase if it activates during night end / day start?
    (Is JFP lying)

    discrider on
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    38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    How about Burnage for quiet?

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    AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    I mean, I dislike that least of everything so far, but it seems like no kill might not be a total disaster tonight as it'll make it easier to sift through the abilities we've revealed.

    Burnage

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I can move to Burnage

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    People I'm trusting more are voting Burnage

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    MamaWolfMamaWolf The wolf pack guides all to safetyRegistered User regular
    I'll go with Burnage as well

    "May the moon watch over you and keep you safe through the night, 'till the morning comes and MamaWolf can protect you through the day"
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    BrodyBrody The Watch The First ShoreRegistered User regular
    Do we have vote count?

    "I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."

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    Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    Last minute Burnage wagon? Not a fan, but we're all doomed anyway I guess.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    edited October 2016
    ...
    Not sure if mafia push

    Ah screw it.
    He's on my Duna.
    No point doubting myself now.

    discrider on
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    FryFry Registered User regular
    Vote closes in ~40 minutes

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    I've asked. Will let everyone know what I get back.

    Turns out I was wrong. The nights carry over.

    So, if none of the night 2 kills plus our vote end up Mafia, I'll have another kill available.

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    JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    @chamberlain should publicly give the amulet to Austin before the day ends

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    ObiFettObiFett Use the Force As You WishRegistered User regular
    Yeah this doesn't seem suspicious at all.

    Interesting that so many people have stayed away from the MP wagon...

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    JPants wrote: »
    @chamberlain should publicly give the amulet to Austin before the day ends

    Pretty sure passing it is a PM to the host and notdone in thread.

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    JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    It can either be done publicly during the day, or privately as a night action. I'm saying it should be the public one so there's no shenanigans.

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    Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Yeah this doesn't seem suspicious at all.

    Interesting that so many people have stayed away from the MP wagon...

    Sadly with us needing a majority, and a bunch of people not saying anything yet bandwagons seem to be our only way of getting things done. I'm ok with killing off any of these shifty folks but I don't see how we gain more info on their misdeeds to prove it.

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    ObiFett wrote: »
    Yeah this doesn't seem suspicious at all.

    Interesting that so many people have stayed away from the MP wagon...

    That and the MrT wagon.
    Or me.

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    JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    is there a vote count?

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    It's Burnage 6, me on like 3 still, MP on some and Gizzy/MrT on 2/3 if some other people haven't swapped off.

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Do the narrations necessarily reflect what happened in the Day/Night?

    Uh, can I get a clarification on your clarification? Not sure what you're asking.
    Is saying in thread that I am giving the amulet to Austin good enough?

    In order to prevent the "hack" of socially forcing every player to post "I transfer the Amulet to X", any request made to transfer or display the Amulet needs to come to me via PM.
    discrider wrote: »
    4. Info/protection phase: other actions that do not involve the possibility of a player dying resolve
    5. Killing phase: any night kills (including the Witch Coven’s Murder) resolve

    Day phase order of operations
    1. Results phase: any results of the night, private or public, are posted

    Does this imply that every info ability in the game will generate results prior to a night's kill phase if it activates during night end / day start?
    (Is JFP lying)

    What the quoted section of the rules is saying, is that if a night info action (such as the classic "seer" role) happens to target a person who is also getting killed, the info role will still get a result, rather than getting some sort of blocked or illegal target error.

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    Not feeling super great about the sudden Burnage wagon.

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    I have to vote though so MrT

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    Chamberlain reveals the Amulet of Protection and hands it to AustinP0027

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    I can push the MrT wagon as well.
    I sort of like it better at this point due to the lack of action earlier.

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    AustinP0027AustinP0027 Registered User regular
    I lean that way specifically because there wasn't a whole lot of fight when he was accused

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    JPantsJPants Registered User regular
    Yeah the sudden Burnage push makes me feel better about my MrT vote

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    Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    I can go with MrT just as much as Burnage, both of them are flat neutral on my trust scale.

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    premiumpremium Registered User regular
    MP... Might be SK (one seems to be hinted at in the OP under the difficulty section). Claimed power is good cover for a sk role.
    Burnage... Don't really get the wagon on him tbh
    Gizzy/MrT... Weird speculation post about dreams, other than that idk
    Discrider... Leading the conversation, making tons of posts, not feeeling mafia

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    premiumpremium Registered User regular
    Anyone got a count? Id rather vote MP but ill push mrt too, its better than the other options

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    MamaWolfMamaWolf The wolf pack guides all to safetyRegistered User regular
    Looking back through the thread and after reading Premium's post as well, I think that MagicPrime is a better vote.

    "May the moon watch over you and keep you safe through the night, 'till the morning comes and MamaWolf can protect you through the day"
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    premiumpremium Registered User regular
    MrT

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    premiumpremium Registered User regular
    Cause woah its later than i thought

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Fry wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Do the narrations necessarily reflect what happened in the Day/Night?

    Uh, can I get a clarification on your clarification? Not sure what you're asking.

    Are the narrations and the actions people took mostly related? If I stab Raiden with a spoon, will that be mentioned in the narration? Important, if a dead body is mentioned which is Raiden's, will the cause of death be reflective of a spoon-like murder?

    Does that make sense?

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Speak to you guys tonight

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    kimekime Queen of Blades Registered User regular
    Vote count before 8, anyone?

    You have 15 seconds :P

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    discriderdiscrider Registered User regular
    Kime shhhhhhhhhhh

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    vote is closed, please stop posting

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    FryFry Registered User regular
    kime wrote: »
    Fry wrote: »
    kime wrote: »
    Do the narrations necessarily reflect what happened in the Day/Night?

    Uh, can I get a clarification on your clarification? Not sure what you're asking.

    Are the narrations and the actions people took mostly related? If I stab Raiden with a spoon, will that be mentioned in the narration? Important, if a dead body is mentioned which is Raiden's, will the cause of death be reflective of a spoon-like murder?

    Does that make sense?

    If you kill someone with a spoon-related power, the narration will not necessarily indicate that spoons were involved.

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