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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Man, after grinding decks all day... I think I'm even more uncertain to what I want to play Friday now?

    Having fun with Titan FA, but occasionally there's games where the wheels just fall off and you feel terrible.
    Jemison is batshit insane and hilarious, but see above in regards to wheels falling off, but even harder.

    Part of me wants to just play a kill deck instead?

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    PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Huh, that was a interesting deck I just played against. Kate with a Yog packing a Dedicated Processor and a bunch of Egrets to make everything code gates.

    And a bunch of Rigged Results. Which did a surprising amount of work.

    EDIT: Next year, when Leela rotates, will be a happy day.

    i always loved the ice and icebreaker game, but wouldn't a deck like this struggle mightily with asset spam?

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    ArcticLancerArcticLancer Best served chilled. Registered User regular
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Huh, that was a interesting deck I just played against. Kate with a Yog packing a Dedicated Processor and a bunch of Egrets to make everything code gates.

    And a bunch of Rigged Results. Which did a surprising amount of work.

    EDIT: Next year, when Leela rotates, will be a happy day.

    Agree to disagree. I honestly don't think I can even consider playing the game without her, which will mark making it officially dead to me instead of simply a game I'm not currently playing. :P

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    PMAvers wrote: »
    Huh, that was a interesting deck I just played against. Kate with a Yog packing a Dedicated Processor and a bunch of Egrets to make everything code gates.

    And a bunch of Rigged Results. Which did a surprising amount of work.

    EDIT: Next year, when Leela rotates, will be a happy day.

    Agree to disagree. I honestly don't think I can even consider playing the game without her, which will mark making it officially dead to me instead of simply a game I'm not currently playing. :P

    I want to cram Cerebral Statics in my deck just to tell her ability to fuck all the way off. Why is it two influence when Employee Strike is only one?

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    I hardly think Leela is unbalanced. Arctic and I may be massive Leela fans, but even so.

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Played a demo game of Netrunner with a friend to get our feet wet again before doing Terminal Directive.

    Man, I forgot just how rock solid the core of this game is, running on face down cards is just fun.

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    Leela is a strong ID but nowhere near unfair to play against. She changes your style of play, forcing you to consider ice placement more than you would normally, but that's good, and exactly what I want out of an ID. Oh, I'm playing against this ID, so I need to do that instead of this.

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    CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Played a demo game of Netrunner with a friend to get our feet wet again before doing Terminal Directive.

    Man, I forgot just how rock solid the core of this game is, running on face down cards is just fun.

    People bitch about the core cards never rotating but it feels good that I can always come back to those cards if I choose to end my hiatus.

    EDIT - But I'll always hate You Take Net Damage For Breathing Because Fuck You Jinteki

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    NisiNisi Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    I haven't played in a while but have been keeping an eye on the meta and waiting to see what happens with rotation. Will make me super sad to see Leela rotate out though, she is one of my favorite runner IDs.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Yeah I love Leela not only because she's fun to play as, but also because she's incredibly well designed I feel.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    I think I would be more okay with her if she only triggered off scoring and not stealing. Triggering on steals feels way too much "win more," where she gets to continue dismantling your defenses that you didn't get to rez anyway because of Crim bullshit.

    And it feels WAY worse when she's doing it to ICE you had to advance to make non-garbage, because it's your only non-garbage ICE and you lose all that time and credits you invested in it and whoops now you got siphoned so you're REALLY not rezzing now get fucked for not playing asset spam.

    ...sorry, I've had bad experiences.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    What I really like about her ability is that it's limited in how often it does anything, and the timing of it is extremely important as to how useful it can be.

    It can be win more when triggering on steals, but shouldn't your own ID ability reward you for making good plays? and then it's also extremely relevant to corp decisions- I've been people IAA 4/2s before just so they could install any ice you bounce right after.

    It's a fascinating ability to interact with which is why I like it a lot.

    but yea, playing advanceable ice vs her does suck because advanceable ice are already kinda hit or miss, she just makes that more pronounced.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    On a more positive note, Emergency Shutdown has been working to get a database of the original Netrunner cards up. The Webminster Project. If you've never gone through them, it's kind of fun to go through and see what old cards have been reprinted and changed into new forms.

    EDIT: Also, Crimson Dust officially has a release date of tomorrow.

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    LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    *gets tired of his corp deck
    *decides to take a look at nrdb to see if there's something fresh the cool kids are playing
    *oh! an aginfusion by cerb! i bet this is cool!
    ....IT dept. strikes....

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Lykouragh wrote: »
    *gets tired of his corp deck
    *decides to take a look at nrdb to see if there's something fresh the cool kids are playing
    *oh! an aginfusion by cerb! i bet this is cool!
    ....IT dept. strikes....

    Yeah, sorry. If you want I can provide some non degenerate decks?

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    just what is your best non-degenerate deck right now? haha

    how's the ag deck been going since publishing? I've been seeing a lot of people teching for it on jnet now, or just playing whizz.

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    LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    Cerberus wrote: »
    Lykouragh wrote: »
    *gets tired of his corp deck
    *decides to take a look at nrdb to see if there's something fresh the cool kids are playing
    *oh! an aginfusion by cerb! i bet this is cool!
    ....IT dept. strikes....

    Yeah, sorry. If you want I can provide some non degenerate decks?

    Actually I would love that! <3

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Corp deck 1 - Skorp
    Keegan's Gonna Get You!

    Skorpios Defense Systems: Persuasive Power

    Agenda (9)
    2x Global Food Initiative ●●
    2x Hostile Takeover
    2x Oaktown Renovation
    3x Project Atlas

    Asset (3)
    3x Jackson Howard ●●●

    Upgrade (3)
    1x Crisium Grid
    2x Keegan Lane ●●●●● ●

    Operation (15)
    1x Beanstalk Royalties
    3x Hedge Fund
    2x Hunter Seeker
    1x Interns
    3x IPO
    2x Restructure
    3x Scarcity of Resources

    Barrier (5)
    3x Self-Adapting Code Wall
    2x Tithonium

    Code Gate (5)
    3x Hortum
    2x Mausolus

    Sentry (4)
    2x Colossus
    2x Data Raven ●●●●

    15 influence spent (max 15, available 0)
    18 agenda points (between 18 and 19)
    44 cards (min 40)
    Cards up to Terminal Directive

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Corp deck 2 - Tennin
    Making Weyland Great Again v3

    Tennin Institute: The Secrets Within

    Agenda (11)
    3x Braintrust
    3x Clone Retirement
    1x Global Food Initiative ●
    3x Medical Breakthrough
    1x Philotic Entanglement

    Asset (3)
    3x Jackson Howard ●●●

    Upgrade (4)
    2x Caprice Nisei
    2x Crisium Grid ●●

    Operation (16)
    3x Celebrity Gift
    3x Hedge Fund
    3x IPO
    2x Restructure
    2x Shipment from Tennin
    3x Trick of Light

    Barrier (5)
    2x Chiyashi
    2x Fire Wall ●●●●
    1x Ice Wall ●

    Code Gate (6)
    3x DNA Tracker
    1x Inazuma
    2x Quandary

    Sentry (4)
    2x Colossus ●●●●
    2x Komainu

    15 influence spent (max 15, available 0)
    20 agenda points (between 20 and 21)
    49 cards (min 45)
    Cards up to Terminal Directive

    Deck built on https://netrunnerdb.com.

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    LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    That Tennin deck is beautiful and I love it.

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Corp deck 3 - Sol
    Salva Nos

    New Angeles Sol: Your News

    Agenda (10)
    1x AstroScript Pilot Program
    3x Breaking News ★★★
    3x Explode-a-palooza
    3x Global Food Initiative ●●●

    Asset (3)
    3x Jackson Howard

    Operation (22)
    2x 24/7 News Cycle
    3x BOOM! ●●●●● ●●●●
    3x Hedge Fund
    3x IPO
    2x MCA Informant
    3x Midseason Replacements
    3x Sweeps Week
    3x Targeted Marketing

    Barrier (3)
    3x Wraparound

    Code Gate (6)
    2x Archangel
    2x Quandary
    2x Tollbooth

    Sentry (5)
    2x Data Raven
    3x News Hound

    15 influence spent (max 15, available 0)
    20 agenda points (between 20 and 21)
    49 cards (min 45)
    Cards up to Terminal Directive

    Deck built on https://netrunnerdb.com.

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Lykouragh wrote: »
    That Tennin deck is beautiful and I love it.

    I've won a GNK with it and my apprentice took it to 3rd at a regional (that I won). It's pretty good as well as,fair.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Argh, I want to play that Skorpios deck now for Friday, but I didn't bring my collection with me to GC. Just my decks, and a copy of Subcontract I'm debating about sticking in.

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Shout if you want some runner decks, some of them don't have game against moon or whatever, but they are balanced otherwise. Happy to share. If anyone ever wants decks always just say.

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    LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    Those corp decks were enough for me, thanks a bunch :)<3

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    tzeentchlingtzeentchling Doctor of Rocks OaklandRegistered User regular
    Why not Mass Commercialization in the Tennin Deck? Seems like a reasonable two-of, at least.

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    Yeah I love mass communication in tennin!

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    So Aus nationals are next weekend but I really haven't got time to grind out practice between now and then since I'm spending four days away for a funeral right before! D:

    So I think I'm gonna take my au rev Andy for some goofy fun since the new turtle AI will be legal! I was going to take an update hydra but I fear too many people will be expecting it!

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Why not Mass Commercialization in the Tennin Deck? Seems like a reasonable two-of, at least.

    I'm generally only advancing one ice

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    Runner decks I've been messing about with I can share if anyone wants them are:

    Super fast Andy
    Counter Surveillance Quetzal
    Combo MaxX

    And obvs Siphon Whizz

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    CS Quetzal! That sounds unorthodox enough to be interesting.

    I'm curious what Super Fast Andy means, though.

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    CerberusCerberus Registered User regular
    CS Quetzal - I'm fairly sure you'll see the game plan. It's been surprisingly strong.
    Freedom through Violence

    Quetzal: Free Spirit

    Event (21)
    1x "Freedom Through Equality"
    2x Account Siphon ●●●●● ●●●
    3x Day Job
    3x Déjà Vu
    2x Employee Strike ●●
    3x Inject
    3x Mars for Martians
    1x Planned Assault ●●
    3x Sure Gamble

    Hardware (2)
    2x Obelus

    Resource (16)
    3x Counter Surveillance
    2x Dean Lister
    3x Fall Guy ●●●
    2x Jarogniew Mercs
    2x Joshua B.
    2x Same Old Thing
    2x Wireless Net Pavilion

    Icebreaker (7)
    1x Black Orchestra
    1x Eater
    3x God of War
    1x MKUltra
    1x Paperclip

    15 influence spent (max 15, available 0)
    46 cards (min 45)
    Cards up to Terminal Directive

    Deck built on https://netrunnerdb.com.

    Fast Andy is an aggro Andy deck with Sneak door and Peddlers for fast set up.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    And here we go, NA Championship.

    Round 1: ETF/Haley. Ended up getting four agenda points out of R&D but ended up going broke due to not seeing any economy past this point and they scored out.

    Ended up having the set-up to score GT, but I put GT down in my scoring remote to try to bluff Clot. They actually couldn't recur Clot again, but was able to get in via Faust, and I didn't see any Hortums to block it. If I held it in HQ and just Biotic'd probably could've got it.

    Woo, auspicious start. 0-1 with both decks.

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    tzeentchlingtzeentchling Doctor of Rocks OaklandRegistered User regular
    Go go @PMAvers !

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    Dis'Dis' Registered User regular
    FFG Panel has nothing in the presentation about netrunner but the Q&A has next cycle at end of the year but EARLY ROTATION before worlds.

    Exciting!

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    Round 2: Kit/CTM

    oh look all my agendas are on the bottom of my deck. Didn't draw onto GT until the end of the game, and if they didn't pull 7 points out of R&D that last turn I would've scored it.

    Versus CTM, it was a draw due to time. I held a 10 Minutes on my Film Critic and on the last turn I pulled it into my score pile to tie him at 0 points. (I had accessed a News Team earlier.)

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    AnzekayAnzekay Registered User regular
    that ffg presentation was a huge letdown for netrunner tbqh

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    InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Is netrunner dying out? I've been out but hoping to get back in but my old flgs doesn't even play it anymore.

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    I think people are just waiting on some news and rotation.

    Round 3: HAARP/Sunny

    *airhorns*

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
    TAKEOVER SCORED

    And then I actually got something like nine cards in my score pile due to News Teams, and eventually scored out. Hooray for having multiple Critics and holding the Minutes in there again so the Corp can't take it back.

    So Runner 1-1-1, Corp 1-2

    Round 4: ETF/Kate

    Didn't draw my Clot and he FA'd and won. Was very money starved since I didn't see my money until after my PPVP's were out, and then I saw none.

    (Even if I forgot that I HAD seen my Clot and it was in the discard pile and I had a Clone Chip. Whoops.)

    VS Kate: They stole GT when I had a lot of credits and they didn't have any.

    Punitive trace for 20? LOL 6 meat.

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

    Runner 1-2-1, corp 2-2

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    PMAversPMAvers Registered User regular
    edited August 2017
    Round 5: Sync/Ayla

    FAKE POINTS ARE AWESOME

    NOTORIETY MOTHERBUSSERS

    I was at 4 points, pulled a two-point agenda out of HQ on click one, got into R&D, and then Archives and then BWA BWA BWA, putting me at 2-2-1.

    Corping, I got flooded early and had GT and Cleaners in my opening hand. Was dumb and only Jackson-shuffled the Cleaners alway. Should've done both. Actually drew my Chronos Project later and then I got Legworked, they stole both so they got 7 points in one turn. (The top card of my deck was Punitive.) So corp went 2-3.

    IT'S OVER

    53'rd out of 103

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