The 2016 Conditional Post-Election Thread

Jacobkosh

I'm going to put this here, and we'll see how it goes.

If this thread gets terminally stupid, we may take a brief and deserved holiday from politics in D&D for a bit.

KetBra

Trump's coming on stage now

Irredeemably Indecisive

Is that the west wing music?!

Please tell me I'm mistaken and that isn't the west wing theme

jothki

I don't want to be afraid of other people. I want to believe that the majority of people are basically good, and that even though they may sometimes make mistakes, they do so out of good faith, and that they'll eventually learn from them and do better in the the future. I don't want to ever write someone off as worthless, and believe that the world has no place for them. I want to believe that the primary thing wrong with the world is fear itself, and that by refusing to fear others I'm helping to make the world a better place.

I'm afraid now. And I'm worried that in being so, I've achieved some sort of horrifying kinship with what I despise.

Atomika

Kipling217 wrote: »

Atomika wrote: »

how

White people, being scared, blaming it on Browns and Gays.

I'm a gay

I have to leave. I can't stay here.

TheClap

Holy fuck.

Knight

i just can't believe that even the people who pay millions of dollars for polling missed this. i'm sure the clinton campaign didn't see this and god knows how much they paid. and clearly the trump campaign didn't either. it's just baffling. how does this happen.

Hakkekage

I am terrified. I cannot watch this fascist accept his crown. It's going to be all bragging, lashing out at his enemies, and promising vengeance. This is the darkest timeline. We ruined everything.

MuddBudd

Atomika wrote: »

Kipling217 wrote: »

Atomika wrote: »

how

White people, being scared, blaming it on Browns and Gays.

I'm a gay

I have to leave. I can't stay here.

I'm gay and my boyfriend is brown AND gay.

I don't want to lose him.

Spectrum

I swear the smug is rolling off Trump in waves even if he's not saying horrible things. Yet.

Duffel

I have never been so heartbroken.

I'm trying to sleep but that's not going to happen.

God help us all. I hope there is something like sanity that can be preserved.

CaptainNemo

Trump's being oddly civil.

Is he coming down? He's being coherent. What the hell is this Trump?

Trace

I am completely unable to sleep.

enlightenedbum

I think this is the harbinger of a realignment of powers. Speaking realpolitik here. It's not just that the wealth of the US is gonna go down, it's the whole world that will collapse and reorganize itself. Consider the GDP of the US compared to the rest of the world. When that consumption slows or crashes, everybody is going to go down. It's gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

And then someone else is gonna take the lead.

The problem is that only the US has the ability to project power to keep things stable. Which means if Trump follows through on his plans to withdraw from treaty obligations, or appears he will consider that, nations with the economic power and technical know how to develop nuclear weapons will. And they'll be completely rational to do so. South Korea first, I would imagine.

An unstable earth right now is seriously bad for humanity.

RonTheDM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvuM3DjvYf0

Commander Zoom

Knight_ wrote: »

i just can't believe that even the people who pay millions of dollars for polling missed this. i'm sure the clinton campaign didn't see this and god knows how much they paid. and clearly the trump campaign didn't either. it's just baffling. how does this happen.

Commander Zoom wrote:

monkey's paw

Burnage

Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

Harry Dresden

Who's the bored kid standing next to Trump in his speech?

Duffel

Burnage wrote: »

Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

We aren't.

Inkstain82

I wholeheartedly reject the idea that Democrats didn't reach out to white people enough.


We offered them health care and improved infrastructure and access to education. Many rejected that in favor of the chance to kick around brown people. What could we have offered them instead when they apparently really, really wanted to kick around brown people?

Phoenix-D

WHO GAVE BIFF THE ALMANAC.

Gaddez

I seriously can't believe that this shit is happening.

Only hope left is that there exists some vestigal shred of morality in elected republicans and they don't let trump do truly insane shit like backing out of NATO or nuking Guam.

Coinage

CaptainNemo wrote: »

Trump's being oddly civil.

You have to pretend to be gracious on election night, even he gets that.

Hardtarget

Who the fuck wrote this speech

Melkster

Apparently there's a campaign for California (my state) to exit the Union

http://www.yescalifornia.org/

I wouldn't have seriously considered it before

But now

Now I don't know

Inkstain82

Gaddez wrote: »

I seriously can't believe that this shit is happening.

Only hope left is that there exists some vestigal shred of morality in elected republicans and they don't let trump do truly insane shit like backing out of NATO or nuking Guam.

That is the terrifying part. For the second one, he doesn't need *anyone's* permission.

TheClap

Duffel wrote: »

Burnage wrote: »

Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

We aren't.

Yeah if there's anything this election has taught me it's that the America I thought we were doesn't exist.

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Coinage

Hardtarget wrote: »

Who the fuck wrote this speech

Nobody, probably?

CaptainNemo

Coinage wrote: »

CaptainNemo wrote: »

Trump's being oddly civil.

You have to pretend to be gracious on election night, even he gets that.

Yeah, but he's still Trump.

hippofant

enlightenedbum wrote: »

I think this is the harbinger of a realignment of powers. Speaking realpolitik here. It's not just that the wealth of the US is gonna go down, it's the whole world that will collapse and reorganize itself. Consider the GDP of the US compared to the rest of the world. When that consumption slows or crashes, everybody is going to go down. It's gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

And then someone else is gonna take the lead.

The problem is that only the US has the ability to project power to keep things stable. Which means if Trump follows through on his plans to withdraw from treaty obligations, or appears he will consider that, nations with the economic power and technical know how to develop nuclear weapons will. And they'll be completely rational to do so. South Korea first, I would imagine.

An unstable earth right now is seriously bad for humanity.

I think it's more likely that more nations are going to start turning to China for protection and succor.

Opty

Inkstain82 wrote: »

I wholeheartedly reject the idea that Democrats didn't reach out to white people enough.


We offered them health care and improved infrastructure and access to education. Many rejected that in favor of the chance to kick around brown people. What could we have offered them instead when they apparently really, really wanted to kick around brown people?

The last thread got closed before I could reply, but the premise of "you can help white folk while helping minorities" is derailed when the white folk you are helping resent you for helping the minorities at the same time.

Inkstain82

emp123 wrote: »

Duffel wrote: »

Burnage wrote: »

Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

We aren't.

Yeah if there's anything this election has taught me it's that the America I thought we were doesn't exist.

American Exceptionalism really meant white power

ArbitraryDescriptor

So this is what dumbfounded feels like.

RT800

I have a hard time believing this was about racism or sexism.

People worry about their wallet first and foremost.

Right or wrong, people must've thought Trump would be better for jobs and the economy.

Suriko

Obama's legacy is gone.

The ACA, gay marriage, financial regulations, antidiscrimination regulations, improved relations with the ME, it's all gone.

General_Armchair

Oh boy. Do the people that actually trusted the media's skewed polls have some news to wake up to.

Coinage

RT800 wrote: »

I have a hard time believing this was about racism or sexism.

People worry about their wallet first and foremost.

Right or wrong, people must've thought Trump would be better for jobs and the economy.

And racism is why they came to that fucking stupid conclusion.

joshofalltrades

Voter suppression and Comey's fuckup definitely contributed to this unmitigated disaster of a result, but more than anything I think the media is going to bear the brunt of my hatred for carrying Trump's bullshit for him

They played chicken with the country and by the time anyone realized what they had done it was too late to move us out of the way of the train

Well congratulations dipshits! I hear President-Elect Trump (oh god that makes me want to vomit) has a plan to make sure your precious estate only says what he says is okay

Giggles_Funsworth

Burnage wrote: »

Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

I'm legitimately worried that being openly publicly political on FB and Twitter is going to fuck me down the road. Especially with the direct mocking of Trump I did. Regret for it isn't the right word, I regret nothing, but it is causing me to seriously consider leaving before the purges start. Because if I wait to see if that happens at all I might be too late.

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