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The 2016 Conditional Post-Election Thread

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I'm going to put this here, and we'll see how it goes.

If this thread gets terminally stupid, we may take a brief and deserved holiday from politics in D&D for a bit.

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    KetBraKetBra Dressed Ridiculously Registered User regular
    Trump's coming on stage now

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    VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Is that the west wing music?!

    Please tell me I'm mistaken and that isn't the west wing theme

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    jothkijothki Registered User regular
    I don't want to be afraid of other people. I want to believe that the majority of people are basically good, and that even though they may sometimes make mistakes, they do so out of good faith, and that they'll eventually learn from them and do better in the the future. I don't want to ever write someone off as worthless, and believe that the world has no place for them. I want to believe that the primary thing wrong with the world is fear itself, and that by refusing to fear others I'm helping to make the world a better place.

    I'm afraid now. And I'm worried that in being so, I've achieved some sort of horrifying kinship with what I despise.

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    AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    how

    White people, being scared, blaming it on Browns and Gays.

    I'm a gay

    I have to leave. I can't stay here.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Holy fuck.

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    Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    i just can't believe that even the people who pay millions of dollars for polling missed this. i'm sure the clinton campaign didn't see this and god knows how much they paid. and clearly the trump campaign didn't either. it's just baffling. how does this happen.

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    I am terrified. I cannot watch this fascist accept his crown. It's going to be all bragging, lashing out at his enemies, and promising vengeance. This is the darkest timeline. We ruined everything.

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    MuddBuddMuddBudd Registered User regular
    Atomika wrote: »
    Kipling217 wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    how

    White people, being scared, blaming it on Browns and Gays.

    I'm a gay

    I have to leave. I can't stay here.

    I'm gay and my boyfriend is brown AND gay.

    I don't want to lose him.

    There's no plan, there's no race to be run
    The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
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    SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    I swear the smug is rolling off Trump in waves even if he's not saying horrible things. Yet.

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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    I have never been so heartbroken.

    I'm trying to sleep but that's not going to happen.

    God help us all. I hope there is something like sanity that can be preserved.

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    Trump's being oddly civil.

    Is he coming down? He's being coherent. What the hell is this Trump?

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    I am completely unable to sleep.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    I think this is the harbinger of a realignment of powers. Speaking realpolitik here. It's not just that the wealth of the US is gonna go down, it's the whole world that will collapse and reorganize itself. Consider the GDP of the US compared to the rest of the world. When that consumption slows or crashes, everybody is going to go down. It's gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

    And then someone else is gonna take the lead.

    The problem is that only the US has the ability to project power to keep things stable. Which means if Trump follows through on his plans to withdraw from treaty obligations, or appears he will consider that, nations with the economic power and technical know how to develop nuclear weapons will. And they'll be completely rational to do so. South Korea first, I would imagine.

    An unstable earth right now is seriously bad for humanity.

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    RonaldoTheGypsyRonaldoTheGypsy Yes, yes Registered User regular
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    Commander ZoomCommander Zoom Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    i just can't believe that even the people who pay millions of dollars for polling missed this. i'm sure the clinton campaign didn't see this and god knows how much they paid. and clearly the trump campaign didn't either. it's just baffling. how does this happen.
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    BurnageBurnage Registered User regular
    Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

    Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

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    Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    Who's the bored kid standing next to Trump in his speech?

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    DuffelDuffel jacobkosh Registered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

    Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

    We aren't.

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    Inkstain82Inkstain82 Registered User regular
    I wholeheartedly reject the idea that Democrats didn't reach out to white people enough.


    We offered them health care and improved infrastructure and access to education. Many rejected that in favor of the chance to kick around brown people. What could we have offered them instead when they apparently really, really wanted to kick around brown people?

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    WHO GAVE BIFF THE ALMANAC.

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    GaddezGaddez Registered User regular
    I seriously can't believe that this shit is happening.

    Only hope left is that there exists some vestigal shred of morality in elected republicans and they don't let trump do truly insane shit like backing out of NATO or nuking Guam.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Trump's being oddly civil.
    You have to pretend to be gracious on election night, even he gets that.

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    HardtargetHardtarget There Are Four Lights VancouverRegistered User regular
    Who the fuck wrote this speech

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    MelksterMelkster Registered User regular
    Apparently there's a campaign for California (my state) to exit the Union

    http://www.yescalifornia.org/

    I wouldn't have seriously considered it before

    But now

    Now I don't know

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    Inkstain82Inkstain82 Registered User regular
    Gaddez wrote: »
    I seriously can't believe that this shit is happening.

    Only hope left is that there exists some vestigal shred of morality in elected republicans and they don't let trump do truly insane shit like backing out of NATO or nuking Guam.

    That is the terrifying part. For the second one, he doesn't need *anyone's* permission.

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    emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    Duffel wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

    Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

    We aren't.

    Yeah if there's anything this election has taught me it's that the America I thought we were doesn't exist.

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    mcdermottmcdermott Registered User regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    Is that the west wing music?!

    Please tell me I'm mistaken and that isn't the west wing theme

    This is now the most important question of the night for me. I need to know if this is a thing that happened.

    Wait wait wait. Guys. I just got up here in Europe. I just checked the last page of comments. Did trump WIN?

    How in the FUCK? How?

    I mean this is how elections work. The time to freak out was when he was nominated, because once he was on the ballot in all 50 states his odds of winning were always better than decent. He was always going to carry a huge number of electoral votes...and north of 40% of the popular vote, or real, breathing voters...simply by being on there with one of the two major parties next to his name.

    The jump from there to winning was never as large as we wanted to pretend it was.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Hardtarget wrote: »
    Who the fuck wrote this speech
    Nobody, probably?

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    CaptainNemoCaptainNemo Registered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    Trump's being oddly civil.
    You have to pretend to be gracious on election night, even he gets that.

    Yeah, but he's still Trump.

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    hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    I think this is the harbinger of a realignment of powers. Speaking realpolitik here. It's not just that the wealth of the US is gonna go down, it's the whole world that will collapse and reorganize itself. Consider the GDP of the US compared to the rest of the world. When that consumption slows or crashes, everybody is going to go down. It's gonna suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

    And then someone else is gonna take the lead.

    The problem is that only the US has the ability to project power to keep things stable. Which means if Trump follows through on his plans to withdraw from treaty obligations, or appears he will consider that, nations with the economic power and technical know how to develop nuclear weapons will. And they'll be completely rational to do so. South Korea first, I would imagine.

    An unstable earth right now is seriously bad for humanity.

    I think it's more likely that more nations are going to start turning to China for protection and succor.

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    OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Inkstain82 wrote: »
    I wholeheartedly reject the idea that Democrats didn't reach out to white people enough.


    We offered them health care and improved infrastructure and access to education. Many rejected that in favor of the chance to kick around brown people. What could we have offered them instead when they apparently really, really wanted to kick around brown people?

    The last thread got closed before I could reply, but the premise of "you can help white folk while helping minorities" is derailed when the white folk you are helping resent you for helping the minorities at the same time.

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    Inkstain82Inkstain82 Registered User regular
    emp123 wrote: »
    Duffel wrote: »
    Burnage wrote: »
    Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

    Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

    We aren't.

    Yeah if there's anything this election has taught me it's that the America I thought we were doesn't exist.

    American Exceptionalism really meant white power

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    So this is what dumbfounded feels like.

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    RT800RT800 Registered User regular
    edited November 2016
    I have a hard time believing this was about racism or sexism.

    People worry about their wallet first and foremost.

    Right or wrong, people must've thought Trump would be better for jobs and the economy.

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    SurikoSuriko AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Obama's legacy is gone.

    The ACA, gay marriage, financial regulations, antidiscrimination regulations, improved relations with the ME, it's all gone.

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    General_ArmchairGeneral_Armchair Registered User regular
    Oh boy. Do the people that actually trusted the media's skewed polls have some news to wake up to.


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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    RT800 wrote: »
    I have a hard time believing this was about racism or sexism.

    People worry about their wallet first and foremost.

    Right or wrong, people must've thought Trump would be better for jobs and the economy.
    And racism is why they came to that fucking stupid conclusion.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Voter suppression and Comey's fuckup definitely contributed to this unmitigated disaster of a result, but more than anything I think the media is going to bear the brunt of my hatred for carrying Trump's bullshit for him

    They played chicken with the country and by the time anyone realized what they had done it was too late to move us out of the way of the train

    Well congratulations dipshits! I hear President-Elect Trump (oh god that makes me want to vomit) has a plan to make sure your precious estate only says what he says is okay

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    Giggles_FunsworthGiggles_Funsworth Blight on Discourse Bay Area SprawlRegistered User regular
    Burnage wrote: »
    Yesterday, I thought David Fahrenthold was assured a Pulitzer. Today, I'm worried he's going to wind up in prison.

    Jesus, America. You're supposed to be better than this.

    I'm legitimately worried that being openly publicly political on FB and Twitter is going to fuck me down the road. Especially with the direct mocking of Trump I did. Regret for it isn't the right word, I regret nothing, but it is causing me to seriously consider leaving before the purges start. Because if I wait to see if that happens at all I might be too late.

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    So hi there from Australia where I feel numb.

    The best case scenario here will be Trump burns all his bridges in Congress, popular opinion dives and he gets impeached on the basis of his numerous lies and probably outright fraud over the years.

    The worst case as I see it is WW3 in Europe when he decides to not respond as Russia experimentally renews annexing border states until it rolls into a NATO member. Or Kim Nung Um insults him and he orders a preemptive nuclear strike on Pyongyang. Or just bombing that results in Seoul being levelled.

    I mean this is great - pick any part of the world and there's literally nowhere he can't make things unutterably worse via strongman stupidity.

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