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  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Does MND affect potency of things like Shout, or just duration?

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Does MND affect potency of things like Shout, or just duration?

    Only duration

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    edited December 2016
    MND affects the duration of "named" status effects like Protect, Shell, Regen, Haste, Stop, Slow, etc. It doesn't affect miscellaneous stat ups and stat downs, like +50% ATK or -40% ATK/MAG.

    So in the case of Shout, Ramza's MND will determine how long everyone is hasted for, but in all circumstances the party will have +50% ATK for 25 seconds.

    Fry on
    Narbus
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Makes me wish there was something in this game akin to the Spellbound effect in FFTA2, which boosted the duration of buffs applied to the character.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Just realized that when I tried fighting Bahamut Fury to rest out Sephiroth, I had Sephiroth equipped with the Mememto Ring for the purpose of evading Exaflare. I'll let you figure out why that's a bit messed up.

  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    Wow everyone pulled on this non curated banner right before osbfest!

    FryBeasteh
  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA mod
    To be honest, I'm not sure there are that many OSBs I care about. I got extremely lucky and got the one that's most useful to me, but until we get the Holy ones they're kinda bleh (like the early BSBs).

    Narbuschocobolicious
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    It's a gambling thing. A new banner with the chance of Onion Gauntlets is gonna draw people in. Especially people who have had and enjoy seeing lucky pulls from banners.

  • LeeksLeeks Registered User regular
    I just had poor impulse control. Half price banner, why not?! Well cause my mythril count was actually pretty low, but oh well. Pulling is fun, even if I should have waited.

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  • JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    Wow everyone pulled on this non curated banner right before osbfest!

    I didn't!

    Mostly because I'm not sure if I'll have enough mythril to pull on both >_>

    Stilts
  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I rationalized it by telling myself I still have a ton of extra mythril in addition to what we're getting due to having lots of realm dungeons to catch up on, but honestly I'm having a bit of buyers remorse

    urahonky
  • urahonkyurahonky Registered User regular
    I always justify it by saying "25 mythril is nothing!" but 25 mythril is indeed something. It's half way to making another good pull on a better banner.

    FryStiltsXerink38thDoe
  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Most of the time I'm all about pulling on Lucky Banners, especially when i was newer to the game and pretty much every soul break was an asset. But I'm also just now reading about how good the FFXIV banner will be, and that in conjunction with the OSBfest is just a lot at once.

  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Gotta stay strong. I need Mythril for:

    FFV: Up to 100
    FF14: Up to 200
    TG Cid: Up to 100

    If theyre's any leftover (ha!):

    OSBfest
    Cid Raine's BSB
    Maybe refreshing during Orbfest, but I think not this time.
    Saving for 2nd Anniversary Lucky banners and Fest banners.

  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    Jragghen wrote: »
    Takel wrote: »
    Random thinking...

    How viable is it to turn Ramza into a SB battery? Have some other support do the breakage and have Ramza do nothing but Shout, charge up SB via Lifesiphon and Entrust to whoever needs a charge?

    Entrust doesn't really charge THAT much, is the problem.

    I think the bigger problem is that you have timing issues - if you're trying to juggle Shout and Entrust you may have to push one or the other back for a turn or two. It's much worse than trying to juggle two SBs because Entrust transfers your entire bar instead of just using up one gauge.

  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

    That reminds me of the absolute fuckfest that was Omega, where lol hope you like RNG cause if Stop ever falls off you die

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I'm not pulling specifically for that fight. If I get the pieces, cool beans; if I don't, eh. Six months ago I wouldn't have wanted to be unable to clear it; nowadays I'm a bit more pragmatic.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

    Nah fuck that.

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  • Knight_Knight_ Dead Dead Dead Registered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

    doesn't give me anything, kinda don't care. it's a trash fight made trash on purpose. shrugggg.

    though, speaking of things that do give me something, this FF7 CM is hard. I've gotten him down to about 10-15% a few times, but it's so difficult to get over the hump without a native hastega or boostga or any real damage SBs. Can't get out enough damage before walls runs out :/

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  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

    I've been basing a lot of my pull decisions on that fight. Based on various threads at the time, the common pieces to success were (and keep in mind you can only have one piece per realm):

    Stacking -MAG debuff such as Vaan's BSB (12, various)
    Wall (Core or 14)
    Guts (4, 6, 8, or 14)
    Instant cast Medica (2, 3, 13)
    Healing BSB with command Medica (various)
    Reflect Damage (14)
    Hastega (various)

    One of these can be RW'ed, the others you need naturally. Note there is some overlap between categories.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

    I've been basing a lot of my pull decisions on that fight. Based on various threads at the time, the common pieces to success were (and keep in mind you can only have one piece per realm):

    Stacking -MAG debuff such as Vaan's BSB (12, various)
    Wall (Core or 14)
    Guts (4, 6, 8, or 14)
    Instant cast Medica (2, 3, 13)
    Healing BSB with command Medica (various)
    Reflect Damage (14)
    Hastega (various)

    One of these can be RW'ed, the others you need naturally. Note there is some overlap between categories.

    Overlap, indeed; that's 7 things you "need" to bring.

  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    I could theoretically do that fight with a combo of

    Vaan
    Ramza
    Relm
    Tyro
    Alphinaud

    Although apparently more than one medica is strongly advised, if I get Y'shtola's BSB i'll be in much better shape but then I'd need to switch her with Alphinaud

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Bringing all of those things while also somehow having any real damage output at all seems like such a pain

    Xerink
  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    you don't need damage, you just need alph's radiant shield, 2 healer bsbs and guts so the boss basically kills himself on your thorns damage

  • ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    Or you shrug and don't get your name put on a webpage, because that's the only reward for it.

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    38thDoe
  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Speaking of Alph, I'm still a bit bugged that his soul breaks use Garuda Egi and Ifrit Egi.

    Then again, RK has Papalymo using Enochian, and Thancred using mudras, so it's kind of past the point of being a thing to complain about, I suppose.

  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    Or you shrug and don't get your name put on a webpage, because that's the only reward for it.

    but the p r e s t i g e

  • DarklyreDarklyre Registered User regular
    Knight_ wrote: »
    Beasteh wrote: »
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

    doesn't give me anything, kinda don't care. it's a trash fight made trash on purpose. shrugggg.

    though, speaking of things that do give me something, this FF7 CM is hard. I've gotten him down to about 10-15% a few times, but it's so difficult to get over the hump without a native hastega or boostga or any real damage SBs. Can't get out enough damage before walls runs out :/

    Try delaying the first Wall until 80% or so. You can deal with the damage with Protectga and breaks. Its the Scorchers that will kill you and they don't start until the boss hits 71% or somewhere near there. That should let your second Wall last until the end.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    you don't need damage, you just need alph's radiant shield, 2 healer bsbs and guts so the boss basically kills himself on your thorns damage

    Did nobody kill him with their own damage, and leave the Radiant Shield out?

  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Beasteh wrote: »
    hope you're all preparing for the 2nd anniversary celebration 255 nemesis fight

    a fight where you have to do 500k damage to a boss who routinely does 99999 to everyone every 7th turn

    and aoe slows

    and spams instant 3k+ attacks that ignore defense and blinks

    (hint: guts/last stand and radiant shield)

    (ps if you bring more than one character from a certain realm the boss buffs himself to be literally unkillable)

    have fun

    I've been basing a lot of my pull decisions on that fight. Based on various threads at the time, the common pieces to success were (and keep in mind you can only have one piece per realm):

    Stacking -MAG debuff such as Vaan's BSB (12, various)
    Wall (Core or 14)
    Guts (4, 6, 8, or 14)
    Instant cast Medica (2, 3, 13)
    Healing BSB with command Medica (various)
    Reflect Damage (14)
    Hastega (various)

    One of these can be RW'ed, the others you need naturally. Note there is some overlap between categories.

    7 has an Insta cast medica as well. I am missing 2 items off that list sadly, and both of them are the newest effects. I like to make due with less than what people say is required, but I don't see a way around a group death insta gib. Reraise just doesn't seem like it will cut it.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Guts is what Reraise should have been from the start, there's a reason they only put out a couple Reraise medicas.

    38thDoe
  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    Guts is what Reraise should have been from the start, there's a reason they only put out a couple Reraise medicas.

    Before the power creep of Shout it was semi-useable. Losing haste hurt, but really if you are dying at any point other than the very end of the fight you have some serious problems so you didn't lose out on a ton of actions. The post Shout world of balancing around huge attack/magic buffs just leaves it completely junk.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Is Guts something like prevents what would be a deathblow, instead of the equivalent of using Raise after a KO? My main WHMs are Eiko and Aeris, both who have Medica/Reraise, and the latter is pretty useless considering it wipes out all of their buffs

  • DalantiaDalantia Registered User regular
    Guts leaves you at 1% HP, instead of being killed, yeah.

    Reraise kind of had to be included because it's something of a traditional FF buff, though.

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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    With Guts status, if you would die, you instead get reduced to 5% HP (or raised to it, if you were lower than that when you took the fatal damage). I reckon that act of surviving removes the Guts status.

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Finished up the bonus battles last night.

    Even with RW Dusk Decree, the Ultimate was WAY harder than the non-CM U+ and U++. Heck, the only butt-clencher during the U++ was when I got unlucky once and Hexaflare only missed two people.

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Man y'all make it seem like I got extremely unlucky on the U++. I haven't had to reset that many times in forever. He kept double hitting one person with Hexafang before any mitigation could be put up and killing them. With absolutely insane consistency.

  • DehumanizedDehumanized Registered User regular
    I had it pretty easy by way of instant KO resist accessories and having 4/5 of my party in the back row.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    I don't think I ever actually got KO'd by his aoe flare, and he used it like four times? I didn't even know it could instant KO

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