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    pimentopimento she/they/pim Registered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    Yeah, they hired him (Jeff Jones) like 6 months ago to try and improve their public image, as he had previously worked on rebranding Target.

    He cited "incompatible leadership styles" or something like that as his reason for leaving. I'm guessing that he and the CEO were butting heads all the time.

    Jeff: Try to be less of an arsehole maybe?
    CEO: No.
    Jeff: Welp.

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    TossrockTossrock too weird to live too rare to dieRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Well, it shows that a driver intervened every 0.8 miles. Whether or not they had to or just didn't trust the car is a completely different figure.

    I know when we got a self-steering rig for our tractor fifteen years ago, I spent the first couple of months fighting with the damn thing because it was performing precision maneuvers that looked wrong to my eyes, since I would put a much greater margin of error on a turn at the expense of a straight furrow. After I started trusting it, my interventions dropped by a couple of orders of magnitude.

    Granted, the mistakes the tractor was making had basically zero consequence, so I'd want a human driver to be much more leery of a self-driving car's decisions, but that report in no way suggests that the drivers were actually in danger every 0.8 miles.

    The next stage of programming might be to make self-driving cars maneuver in ways that feel better to human passengers, rather than going for maximum precision and efficiency.

    Thing is, Uber stole their self driving technology from Google, and Google gets more than 5000 miles per disengagement. So what the Uber numbers show is that they are dramatically behind (like, nearly 10,000x), even if not all of those disengagements were life-threatening. This makes sense, given that stealing an extremely complex piece of technology is not the same as inventing it.

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Tossrock wrote: »
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Well, it shows that a driver intervened every 0.8 miles. Whether or not they had to or just didn't trust the car is a completely different figure.

    I know when we got a self-steering rig for our tractor fifteen years ago, I spent the first couple of months fighting with the damn thing because it was performing precision maneuvers that looked wrong to my eyes, since I would put a much greater margin of error on a turn at the expense of a straight furrow. After I started trusting it, my interventions dropped by a couple of orders of magnitude.

    Granted, the mistakes the tractor was making had basically zero consequence, so I'd want a human driver to be much more leery of a self-driving car's decisions, but that report in no way suggests that the drivers were actually in danger every 0.8 miles.

    The next stage of programming might be to make self-driving cars maneuver in ways that feel better to human passengers, rather than going for maximum precision and efficiency.

    Thing is, Uber stole their self driving technology from Google, and Google gets more than 5000 miles per disengagement. So what the Uber numbers show is that they are dramatically behind (like, nearly 10,000x), even if not all of those disengagements were life-threatening. This makes sense, given that stealing an extremely complex piece of technology is not the same as inventing it.

    Fascinating!

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    That is not a bet I would like to take.

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    intropintrop Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
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    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them
    Well, you've good instincts and it's easy enough to test.

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    introp wrote: »
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    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them
    Well, you've good instincts and it's easy enough to test.

    Yeah man, just grab a fork and get to work, the old fashioned way.

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    But hey, at least the wiring is probably actually copper! Cloth wrapped and thus a fire hazard, but whatevs.

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    furlionfurlion Riskbreaker Lea MondeRegistered User regular
    I think it is actually illegal to put a three prong plate on a socket that is not actually grounded. Not that it will necessarily stop someone from doing so.

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Got myself a Huawei Nova. Compared to my old S4 mini it's pretty snazzy. Battery lasts sooo much longer.

    That the UI has no app drawer is the most perplexing design decision I've encountered so far though.

    I might install Nova launcher anyway for the extra options and designs but I guess that won't help with the app dawer?

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    GrobianGrobian What's on sale? Pliers!Registered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    Got myself a Huawei Nova. Compared to my old S4 mini it's pretty snazzy. Battery lasts sooo much longer.

    That the UI has no app drawer is the most perplexing design decision I've encountered so far though.

    I might install Nova launcher anyway for the extra options and designs but I guess that won't help with the app dawer?

    Nova launcher has an app drawer.

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Grobian wrote: »
    honovere wrote: »
    Got myself a Huawei Nova. Compared to my old S4 mini it's pretty snazzy. Battery lasts sooo much longer.

    That the UI has no app drawer is the most perplexing design decision I've encountered so far though.

    I might install Nova launcher anyway for the extra options and designs but I guess that won't help with the app dawer?

    Nova launcher has an app drawer.

    Good. I wasn't sure how much a different launcher would change the functions like that.

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    What's an app drawer?

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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    What's an app drawer?

    basically the folder where all your phone's apps are. Usually sortable and searchable. Huawei’s Emui UI doesn’t have that. All installed apps are on your start screens and if you want to remove them from there you have to actually uninstall them which you can’t do with some of the preinstalled apps.

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    Open up the cover plates and look for the copper wire attached near the top or bottom and where it goes. Houses that old it's likely grounded to the metal box, and the ground from the wire is also grounded to the box. If there's a ground. Sometimes it was just a two-pronged outlet and someone installed a grounded one and never installed new wire.

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    KarlKarl Registered User regular
    Who the fuck thought not having an apps drawer was a good idea?

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    Who the fuck thought not having an apps drawer was a good idea?

    Apple

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    KarlKarl Registered User regular
    I've never had an Iphone so I had no idea that was a thing.

    What do you do with apps you don't want on your home screen? Stick them in a folder and pretend they're not there?

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    ArcSynArcSyn Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    Karl wrote: »
    I've never had an Iphone so I had no idea that was a thing.

    What do you do with apps you don't want on your home screen? Stick them in a folder and pretend they're not there?

    Yup. Toss them into a folder on page 5.

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    Satanic JesusSatanic Jesus Hi, I'm Liam! with broken glassesRegistered User regular
    The Moto G4 Play arrived. It's so nice and quick! So much better than my last phone.

    my backloggery 3DS: 0533-5338-5186 steam: porcelain_cow goodreads
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    honoverehonovere Registered User regular
    Karl wrote: »
    Who the fuck thought not having an apps drawer was a good idea?

    Huawei also seems to have realized that because the next version of Emui for Android 7 has an app drawer. As the Nova is not a flagship phone I'm not sure it'll ever get that version though.

    camera seems nice though and the professionol mode it has seems to provide better adjustment options than my older compact camera.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    But hey, at least the wiring is probably actually copper! Cloth wrapped and thus a fire hazard, but whatevs.

    it looks like the whole house was rewired at some point since original construction. i can see most of the circuits from the unfinished basement. no cloth. but the fact that 80% of the outlets are still 2-prong in the house makes me a little nervous

    gonna go pick up a meter today so I can read them and make sure they're legit

    it was literally the firs thing i noticed when I set down the first box in the office

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    intropintrop Registered User regular
    furlion wrote: »
    I think it is actually illegal to put a three prong plate on a socket that is not actually grounded. Not that it will necessarily stop someone from doing so.
    NEC disallows unlabeled ungrounded three prong outlets. You can replace two-prong outlets with three-prong if they're downstream of (protected by) a GFCI and have a big "no equipment ground" label on them.

    (Having said that, I've seen a lot of unknowing / lazy / cheap building owners replace two-prong outlets with grounding-type outlets and either leave the ground disconnected or, less commonly, bond it to neutral right there. Ugh.)

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    A lot of people have definitely bootlegged their ground to the neutral on renos.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    But hey, at least the wiring is probably actually copper! Cloth wrapped and thus a fire hazard, but whatevs.

    it looks like the whole house was rewired at some point since original construction. i can see most of the circuits from the unfinished basement. no cloth. but the fact that 80% of the outlets are still 2-prong in the house makes me a little nervous

    gonna go pick up a meter today so I can read them and make sure they're legit

    it was literally the firs thing i noticed when I set down the first box in the office

    As it should be
    bowen wrote: »
    A lot of people have definitely bootlegged their ground to the neutral on renos.

    My favorite is when your microwave has too much wattage for the ground so if you use it more than 5 minutes it sets off the breaker cause it's unlabeled.

    Oh wait is that just me in my last apartment

    yeah

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    JedocJedoc In the scuppers with the staggers and jagsRegistered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    But hey, at least the wiring is probably actually copper! Cloth wrapped and thus a fire hazard, but whatevs.

    it looks like the whole house was rewired at some point since original construction. i can see most of the circuits from the unfinished basement. no cloth. but the fact that 80% of the outlets are still 2-prong in the house makes me a little nervous

    gonna go pick up a meter today so I can read them and make sure they're legit

    it was literally the firs thing i noticed when I set down the first box in the office

    I highly recommend a three-light meter. They're cheap, unambiguous, and capable of diagnosing most wiring fuckery instantly.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    introp wrote: »
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    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them
    Well, you've good instincts and it's easy enough to test.

    Yeah man, just grab a fork and get to work, the old fashioned way.

    pfft a REAL MAN uses his COCK

    jam your weiner into that rusty rocket

    show your office who's boss

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    But hey, at least the wiring is probably actually copper! Cloth wrapped and thus a fire hazard, but whatevs.

    it looks like the whole house was rewired at some point since original construction. i can see most of the circuits from the unfinished basement. no cloth. but the fact that 80% of the outlets are still 2-prong in the house makes me a little nervous

    gonna go pick up a meter today so I can read them and make sure they're legit

    it was literally the firs thing i noticed when I set down the first box in the office

    As it should be
    bowen wrote: »
    A lot of people have definitely bootlegged their ground to the neutral on renos.

    My favorite is when your microwave has too much wattage for the ground so if you use it more than 5 minutes it sets off the breaker cause it's unlabeled.

    Oh wait is that just me in my last apartment

    yeah

    I mean

    99% of the time you can bootleg the ground like that.

    The exceptions are the kitchen and the bathroom.

    That will kill someone someday, it's just a matter of when.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    There's actually an exception in most NEC codes for bootlegged ground because it was hyper common for renovations between the 70s and mid 90s, especially for large appliances like dryers, to the point where they had to make the exception.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Oghulk wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Jasconius wrote: »
    Just moved into a house built in the late 50s... Wondering what the odds are that the few three prong outlets in the house aren't properly grounded before plugging in several thousands worth of computer into them

    But hey, at least the wiring is probably actually copper! Cloth wrapped and thus a fire hazard, but whatevs.

    it looks like the whole house was rewired at some point since original construction. i can see most of the circuits from the unfinished basement. no cloth. but the fact that 80% of the outlets are still 2-prong in the house makes me a little nervous

    gonna go pick up a meter today so I can read them and make sure they're legit

    it was literally the firs thing i noticed when I set down the first box in the office

    As it should be
    bowen wrote: »
    A lot of people have definitely bootlegged their ground to the neutral on renos.

    My favorite is when your microwave has too much wattage for the ground so if you use it more than 5 minutes it sets off the breaker cause it's unlabeled.

    Oh wait is that just me in my last apartment

    yeah

    I mean

    99% of the time you can bootleg the ground like that.

    The exceptions are the kitchen and the bathroom.

    That will kill someone someday, it's just a matter of when.

    The place was a condo my landlords bought in an old apartment complex that the management left. That old apt management apparently did it.

    Let my landlords know after we moved out (after three years there case neither my roommate nor I cared we didn't use the microwave enough) and told them how to fix the problem.

    They gave me an extra 100 back on my deposit cause I straight up went and fixed it for them when they asked.

    It's no wonder that old management company went out of business.

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    OghulkOghulk Tinychat Janitor TinychatRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    There's actually an exception in most NEC codes for bootlegged ground because it was hyper common for renovations between the 70s and mid 90s, especially for large appliances like dryers, to the point where they had to make the exception.

    Yeah the newer dryers have to be changed with an adapter now specifically because of that problem.

    Which is fine until you end up with an older dryer and the home depot doesn't have the adapter cause ???

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    DouglasDangerDouglasDanger PennsylvaniaRegistered User regular
    honovere wrote: »
    What's an app drawer?

    basically the folder where all your phone's apps are. Usually sortable and searchable. Huawei’s Emui UI doesn’t have that. All installed apps are on your start screens and if you want to remove them from there you have to actually uninstall them which you can’t do with some of the preinstalled apps.

    Oh, ok

    I know what you mean now

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Oghulk wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    There's actually an exception in most NEC codes for bootlegged ground because it was hyper common for renovations between the 70s and mid 90s, especially for large appliances like dryers, to the point where they had to make the exception.

    Yeah the newer dryers have to be changed with an adapter now specifically because of that problem.

    Which is fine until you end up with an older dryer and the home depot doesn't have the adapter cause ???

    It's a fucking nightmare too.

    My dad and I used to fix up houses (he'd buy HUD houses for cheap and resell them fixed up). But the problem with most HUD houses is they're auction based, and you don't really get to inspect them before you buy them (but you can buy houses for like 10-20 grand). You should see the shit some people do with renovations.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Hm, Apple made a few changes to their iOS device line-up this morning:

    •The iPhone 7/7+ now come in red aluminum.
    •The iPad Air 2 has been replaced with "iPad", same dimensions as the iPad Air 1, A9 SOC (vs A8X in the Air 2), $329.
    •iPhone SE prices stay the same, but storage at each level has been doubled.

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    pimentopimento she/they/pim Registered User regular
    edited March 2017
    ArcSyn wrote: »
    Karl wrote: »
    I've never had an Iphone so I had no idea that was a thing.

    What do you do with apps you don't want on your home screen? Stick them in a folder and pretend they're not there?

    Yup. Toss them into a folder on page 5.

    You can remove the icons for the built in apps now (as of iOS 10) so it's not so bad.

    Until your mum rings up and says 'I thought there was a calendar on here but there's not and I tried to download one on the app store but it's asking all these questions' so she invites you around for dinner as long as you spend 2 minutes signing her up to the app store to restore the icons.

    Which is also not so bad, so.. good job apple I guess?

    pimento on
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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    same dimensions as the iPad Air 1

    for a second I thought this said same dimensions as "iPad 1" and I almost shit myself

    A9 is a fine chip. That's a pretty good value

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    jgeis wrote: »
    Hm, Apple made a few changes to their iOS device line-up this morning:

    •The iPhone 7/7+ now come in red aluminum.
    •The iPad Air 2 has been replaced with "iPad", same dimensions as the iPad Air 1, A9 SOC (vs A8X in the Air 2), $329.
    •iPhone SE prices stay the same, but storage at each level has been doubled.

    Wait, what? There was an Apple© Event™ and not a whisper was heard on the internet?

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    jgeisjgeis Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    jgeis wrote: »
    same dimensions as the iPad Air 1

    for a second I thought this said same dimensions as "iPad 1" and I almost shit myself

    A9 is a fine chip. That's a pretty good value

    I would not be unhappy if Apple started doing "retro" chunky tech. I kind of miss when tech had weight to it.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017
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    lookit that fat babby

    Brolo on
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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    firewire, chief amongst the hipster cables

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