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Is there not enough money in MLB gambling for the injury report to be made public? I'd think there would be. Why is the NFL different?
MLB injuries are public too. They just don't maintain a comprehensive list because their trade rules are different. They also don't have he franchise tag in MLB. The injury list is a tool for front offices to use, that gamblers borrowed. It's not a handout from the league to gamblers.
Is there not enough money in MLB gambling for the injury report to be made public? I'd think there would be. Why is the NFL different?
With the length of the season and the temporary disabled lists you can put players on I think there probably isn't as much of an issue with the hiding of injuries. In the NFL if you're hurt you either play through it or your season is done.
Is there not enough money in MLB gambling for the injury report to be made public? I'd think there would be. Why is the NFL different?
Less games bigger money. MLB's schedule is long enough that players sometimes just get days off even when they are healthy, so gamblers already have that going on with bets.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Go to donbest.com and click injuries, or look at the schedule sheet for any matchup, including college. I can get whatever information has been made public about injuries for any sport, college included. The veracity and currentness of that information is what is in question. But the internal NFL injury list is made for NFL reasons, not as some sort of handout to Vegas.
What is funniest to me is that the second pop of the "too much contact" was reported as a fight originally then backtracked to "too much tempo". So the resulting 2nd rounder is because of a fight two years ago that got labeled as excessive practice contact.
Oh well. Will make taking OTs twice in a row easier to do.
Is there not enough money in MLB gambling for the injury report to be made public? I'd think there would be. Why is the NFL different?
Less games bigger money. MLB's schedule is long enough that players sometimes just get days off even when they are healthy, so gamblers already have that going on with bets.
You don't know what you're talking about in this regard, and Shane Black is not knowledgeable in this instance. Baseball is the sport I take second most seriously, and can go on at length about the handicapping methods that can be chosen to use. As far as injuries are concerned with gambling, there's no difference between MLB and NFL injury report. The NFL injury report being public is because the media cares enough about it, there are fewer games, so it gets more exposure. I don't even look at the actual release, I just check donbest or look at players twitters/Reddit, etc to find injury information as that is actually more current and better information than you're likely to get from the official reports. There's also no difference between the internal MLB one and the "public" NFL one, it just has to do with what the media decides to make a story of.
And HIPPAA doesn't really apply here, unless a player chooses to retire. If a player chooses to retire and doesn't wish to let their health info public, they very much can. Like Magic could've retired and never let anyone know about his AIDS diagnosis even though it was the team doctors that caught it.
Is there not enough money in MLB gambling for the injury report to be made public? I'd think there would be. Why is the NFL different?
With the length of the season and the temporary disabled lists you can put players on I think there probably isn't as much of an issue with the hiding of injuries. In the NFL if you're hurt you either play through it or your season is done.
There's an injured reserve list in the NFL as well.
Is there not enough money in MLB gambling for the injury report to be made public? I'd think there would be. Why is the NFL different?
With the length of the season and the temporary disabled lists you can put players on I think there probably isn't as much of an issue with the hiding of injuries. In the NFL if you're hurt you either play through it or your season is done.
There's an injured reserve list in the NFL as well.
Yes but outside of one (or two? did they add a second this year?) player exemptions it is season ending. Baseball has a short term DL and a long term DL, and you can return from either.
Is there not enough money in MLB gambling for the injury report to be made public? I'd think there would be. Why is the NFL different?
With the length of the season and the temporary disabled lists you can put players on I think there probably isn't as much of an issue with the hiding of injuries. In the NFL if you're hurt you either play through it or your season is done.
There's an injured reserve list in the NFL as well.
Yes but outside of one (or two? did they add a second this year?) player exemptions it is season ending. Baseball has a short term DL and a long term DL, and you can return from either.
There's only 16 games and one a week, and most injuries in the NFL are of the broken limb or hard sprain variety (at least). Those generally take more than the season to recover from.
The most common injuries are tendon trauma and concussions.
Those don't land you on the IR except for the new concussion protocol stuff. But I agree the attrition injuries are just as much a problem with the game as the acute traumas. There's just a big difference in the treatment plans and outlooks for someone with a broken fibula vs someone with encephelaopathy from the 30 undiagnosed concussions they suffered. Sadly, they both only most likely end your career.
Yeah they dont land you on the IR that is the point. The Injury List change pissed a ton of people off this year and they are still stupid. If anything the Hawks can argue that he wasnt injured enough to be even Questionable because he played (which they are trying I guess). This is mainly because of teams playing the old Probable type.
Two, now. Though I seem to remember it started last season(?)
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One of carroll's big blunders here is literally calling it a significant injury, as the exact wording in the injury report guidelines are that all significant injuries must be reported
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Plus the fact sherman started missing practices each week right in the time frame he was supposed to have suffered the injury, but they were all listed as "non injury related". It looks incredibly suspect
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Same as it ever was. When Joe Buck is the least useless of the four it's a sad commentary.
The idea that your vote is a moral statement about you or who you vote for is some backwards ass libertarian nonsense. Your vote is about society. Vote to protect the vulnerable.
Yea, I think we're kinda arguing on two different tangents here. I think it's dumb it's gonna result in real penalties, since the player involved has no grievance with how it was treated, never missed any significant play time, and it doesn't seem to be any sort of niggling injury for the long term, and he might even be franchised by the Hawks. The Hawks fucked up and are gonna get punished, and it's gonna most likely fuck the Patriots too, ohohoho.
The Injury report exists for reasons, and it's not just some inane paperwork or list that serves no purpose and is a handout to the bogeyman that is those punters in Vegas any more so than say the FBI's Ten Most Wanted, or the Dow Jones or S&P are lists that are used as tools by many different parties, and have rules for their maintenance. If you get caught red handed on the record fucking them up, you're gonna have to pay your pound of flesh for absolvence.
I don't think any of us would argue that the IL doesnt exists for reasons. Just stupid ones that serve little purpose. Any system that allows the team to handle it for one is bound to be misused. Hawks got caught. So what. Boom pick gone and its over with. Not like the Hawks are going to drag it out for 2 year right? The system needs to be fixed if it is going to be an IL. As it stands now it is used primarily as a function of the betting arena. That much cant be denied. It needs to be maintained and monitored and certified by physicians to be a real IL.
They're in last place again, right? They should just give it to them as a gimme. I honestly think they're best, and ABC/ESPN is bearable, but not good. But my God, Fox and CBS commentating makes me vomit and my ears bleed. I probably should go to the doctor.
I don't think any of us would argue that the IL doesnt exists for reasons. Just stupid ones that server little purpose. Any system that allows the team to handle it for one is bound to be misused. Hawks got caught. So what. Boom pick gone and its over with. Not like the Hawks are going to drag it out for 2 year right? The system needs to be fixed if it is going to be an IL. As it stands now it is used primarily as a function of the betting arena. That much cant be denied.
There's a fedarlism/states right argument to be had, but it's just that there are established rules. I only jumped into the conversation when I saw it being thrown around as fact that the IL was some sort of welfare to Vegas from the NFL. It very much is not that.
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I don't think any of us would argue that the IL doesnt exists for reasons. Just stupid ones that server little purpose. Any system that allows the team to handle it for one is bound to be misused. Hawks got caught. So what. Boom pick gone and its over with. Not like the Hawks are going to drag it out for 2 year right?
No, they'll prob drag it out as long as they're allowed (see Sherman piss test and the appeals of every other failed drug test). Why wouldn't they? I don't begrudge them it. Why accept a punishment you might not have to?
(Also the patriots took the draft pick hits and fine without appeal, for the record. It was specifically the players association/Brady that dragged it out, as I would too, with 25% of my salary on the line)
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The lesson from all this is that the NFL apparently won't tolerate repeat offenders
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Kicking and screaming is definitely the right play with how the NFL handles its internal affairs. Wait a few years, and it's swept under the rug, and take your slap on the wrist when there's some other transgression in the spot light. Think of all the interest you saved!
The lesson from all this is that the NFL apparently won't tolerate repeat offenders
Unless its for beating up your spouse, and only then only if you're dumb enough to be on video.
Even then only if it is leaked to the media.
I can't wait for another NFL womans day where they go over great make up tips to hide bruises, and proper etiquette for being tossed on a pile of guns during a domestic violence squabble.
I wonder now that the cowboys are out of the play offs if Ezekiel Elliot will get a couple of preseason game suspensions.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I don't even know much about the owners arbitration bs. I'm just glad they've finally stopped cock blocking one another from desiresble markets, and were actually see some laissez faire football team movements. I think getting out of that unhealthy rut of government welfare to keep teams and build stadiums will be a great thing for the sports leagues in the US. It's just gonna make it so that he richest owners are gonna be so because of the real estate value they've created through the development deals they've done leveraging their teams. But this is Trump's America soon... the Kraft Model isn't a bad thing for teams to emulate, at least.
The Kraft model? Win the HoF coach and late round HoF QB at the same time lottery?
I was speaking about team business model, that obviously the on the field excellence helped along tremendously, but he's relied on the state of MA less than any other owner has relied on their respective states in their business model. I think that's in the best interest of municipalities and the sport. The Soccer Club/League way of ownership is fun. I really should get around to making the horse racing thread, just for the general talk about sport and ownership I feel is best covered under those auspices. It's a lot more stickly in team sports involving humans how much any one individual owns exactly. Even when a team is owned by a different group, a player can so excel and be so vital to a teams profitability/identity, that they are the owner, and can even become so (look at Mario and the Penguins.).
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MLB injuries are public too. They just don't maintain a comprehensive list because their trade rules are different. They also don't have he franchise tag in MLB. The injury list is a tool for front offices to use, that gamblers borrowed. It's not a handout from the league to gamblers.
With the length of the season and the temporary disabled lists you can put players on I think there probably isn't as much of an issue with the hiding of injuries. In the NFL if you're hurt you either play through it or your season is done.
Less games bigger money. MLB's schedule is long enough that players sometimes just get days off even when they are healthy, so gamblers already have that going on with bets.
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Oh well. Will make taking OTs twice in a row easier to do.
You don't know what you're talking about in this regard, and Shane Black is not knowledgeable in this instance. Baseball is the sport I take second most seriously, and can go on at length about the handicapping methods that can be chosen to use. As far as injuries are concerned with gambling, there's no difference between MLB and NFL injury report. The NFL injury report being public is because the media cares enough about it, there are fewer games, so it gets more exposure. I don't even look at the actual release, I just check donbest or look at players twitters/Reddit, etc to find injury information as that is actually more current and better information than you're likely to get from the official reports. There's also no difference between the internal MLB one and the "public" NFL one, it just has to do with what the media decides to make a story of.
And HIPPAA doesn't really apply here, unless a player chooses to retire. If a player chooses to retire and doesn't wish to let their health info public, they very much can. Like Magic could've retired and never let anyone know about his AIDS diagnosis even though it was the team doctors that caught it.
There's an injured reserve list in the NFL as well.
Yes but outside of one (or two? did they add a second this year?) player exemptions it is season ending. Baseball has a short term DL and a long term DL, and you can return from either.
There's only 16 games and one a week, and most injuries in the NFL are of the broken limb or hard sprain variety (at least). Those generally take more than the season to recover from.
Those don't land you on the IR except for the new concussion protocol stuff. But I agree the attrition injuries are just as much a problem with the game as the acute traumas. There's just a big difference in the treatment plans and outlooks for someone with a broken fibula vs someone with encephelaopathy from the 30 undiagnosed concussions they suffered. Sadly, they both only most likely end your career.
Two, now. Though I seem to remember it started last season(?)
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Aikman Buck for NFC game
Nantz and Simms for the AFC game.
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The Injury report exists for reasons, and it's not just some inane paperwork or list that serves no purpose and is a handout to the bogeyman that is those punters in Vegas any more so than say the FBI's Ten Most Wanted, or the Dow Jones or S&P are lists that are used as tools by many different parties, and have rules for their maintenance. If you get caught red handed on the record fucking them up, you're gonna have to pay your pound of flesh for absolvence.
There's a fedarlism/states right argument to be had, but it's just that there are established rules. I only jumped into the conversation when I saw it being thrown around as fact that the IL was some sort of welfare to Vegas from the NFL. It very much is not that.
No, they'll prob drag it out as long as they're allowed (see Sherman piss test and the appeals of every other failed drug test). Why wouldn't they? I don't begrudge them it. Why accept a punishment you might not have to?
(Also the patriots took the draft pick hits and fine without appeal, for the record. It was specifically the players association/Brady that dragged it out, as I would too, with 25% of my salary on the line)
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Unless its for beating up your spouse, and only then only if you're dumb enough to be on video.
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Even then only if it is leaked to the media.
I can't wait for another NFL womans day where they go over great make up tips to hide bruises, and proper etiquette for being tossed on a pile of guns during a domestic violence squabble.
I wonder now that the cowboys are out of the play offs if Ezekiel Elliot will get a couple of preseason game suspensions.
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This guys timeline is absurd. Rantings and ravings about how not guaranteeing angel kam chancellors contract has cursed the hawks
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But he has a PhD
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Not verified.
Do not engage the Watermelons.
I was speaking about team business model, that obviously the on the field excellence helped along tremendously, but he's relied on the state of MA less than any other owner has relied on their respective states in their business model. I think that's in the best interest of municipalities and the sport. The Soccer Club/League way of ownership is fun. I really should get around to making the horse racing thread, just for the general talk about sport and ownership I feel is best covered under those auspices. It's a lot more stickly in team sports involving humans how much any one individual owns exactly. Even when a team is owned by a different group, a player can so excel and be so vital to a teams profitability/identity, that they are the owner, and can even become so (look at Mario and the Penguins.).
So does Ben Carson.
(I know it's an MD. It's a joke.)
If he were my doctor I'd request a new one.
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