If economic conditions did actually cost us the rust belt, I can't imagine those folks who voted on it are going to see a major upswing in the next couple of years from Obama Administration momentum. Either their communities were doing better under Obama or they weren't, two more years isn't going to make that much of a difference on the current trajectory, regardless of what national unemployment numbers look like.
Democrats could probably capitalize on something to the effect of "Where are those plants you said were going to be moved back to [insert rust belt state/town here], Donald?" Assuming of course they never do come back, anyway.
They won't come back. The question is, is it the material fact of the plants or the feeling they are being "heard". I'm pretty sure heard converges with material reality at some point but is it 2 years or 10 years?
The material facts of the plants isn't really that hard of a thing. Trump can always pretend he did something to keep the plants there and a lot of people will believe him. He is already doing that.
What's wrong with Flynn is that he is a naked opportunist, but he's not actually incapable of being competent in a national security role. So that doesn't cause me any grief, because it could have been way worse.
What's wrong with Flynn is that he is a naked opportunist, but he's not actually incapable of being competent in a national security role. So that doesn't cause me any grief, because it could have been way worse.
He has very extreme views re: Islam. Confirmation hearings when some of the Russia hawks ask him about his ties to RT are going to be fun.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
What's funny is that now if Ford does end up moving the plant, Trump will take most of the criticism. He basically volunteered to serve as political cannon fodder.
What's wrong with Flynn is that he is a naked opportunist, but he's not actually incapable of being competent in a national security role. So that doesn't cause me any grief, because it could have been way worse.
Yeah he seems pretty levelheaded compared to his compatriots in the Trump administration
It is entirely possible that eight years from now we’ll be looking at an entrenched kleptocracy preparing to install a chosen successor whose only real mission is to preserve the web of parasitical oligarchy that has replaced the federal government as we know it.
It is entirely possible that eight years from now we’ll be looking at an entrenched kleptocracy preparing to install a chosen successor whose only real mission is to preserve the web of parasitical oligarchy that has replaced the federal government as we know it.
Not sure it had an impact, but wasn't that what the anti-Clinton left said about this election (see for instance @mtracey)
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What's wrong with Flynn is that he is a naked opportunist, but he's not actually incapable of being competent in a national security role. So that doesn't cause me any grief, because it could have been way worse.
Yeah he seems pretty levelheaded compared to his compatriots in the Trump administration
If trends continue, we should be at something like full employment in ~2 years regardless. The main thing he is going to fuck up is in responding to events. Both because he is a mercurial know nothing and because he appears to be staffing up with cranks and yes men. When it comes to things the government can directly influence we are basically playing Russian roulette. And with Russia to boot.
Yeah but "full employment" generally doesn't count the people who have dropped out of the workforce (i.e. giving up looking for work). We can have full employment and a shitload of people without work. Which we kind of do, and why unemployment dropping under Obama wasn't a strong selling point.
EDIT: Unless I got my facts wrong and labor participation rates are up to, last thing I heard was that is was at generally low levels.
Full Employment would mean rising labor force participation rates. Also, real wage gains as tight labor conditions increase bargaining power. The Fed will raise rates so things may plateau a bit early, but U-6 is only a point above its average. Things continuing to do as they're doing and we'll start to see pre-crash normality.
My favorite little viginette from the Trump transition team is the story that they had Christie sign all the transition paperwork and then knifed him, leaving them unable to actually do anything official in terms of transition until they got all that stuff re-signed because to the government, the people on the "team" are officially just a bunch of yahoos and has-beens until that happens again.
This is what running your operation like a business looks like.
I think the time has come to show Christie all the compassion we can muster and commiserate with him about his horrible treatment at the hands of Trump. If it inspires him to plant a few political knives hilt-deep in the Trump administrations' back, well, why not support him in his endeavors?
My favorite little viginette from the Trump transition team is the story that they had Christie sign all the transition paperwork and then knifed him, leaving them unable to actually do anything official in terms of transition until they got all that stuff re-signed because to the government, the people on the "team" are officially just a bunch of yahoos and has-beens until that happens again.
This is what running your operation like a business looks like.
I think the time has come to show Christie all the compassion we can muster and commiserate with him about his horrible treatment at the hands of Trump. If it inspires him to plant a few political knives hilt-deep in the Trump administrations' back, well, why not support him in his endeavors?
Maybe I'm being too cynical, but I don't see how it's important even if true. His supporters won't care about a follow up detail like this, especially one from the liberal media.
The headline "FORD halts plan to move plant to Mexico" is already out there.
If economic conditions did actually cost us the rust belt, I can't imagine those folks who voted on it are going to see a major upswing in the next couple of years from Obama Administration momentum. Either their communities were doing better under Obama or they weren't, two more years isn't going to make that much of a difference on the current trajectory, regardless of what national unemployment numbers look like.
Democrats could probably capitalize on something to the effect of "Where are those plants you said were going to be moved back to [insert rust belt state/town here], Donald?" Assuming of course they never do come back, anyway.
They won't come back. The question is, is it the material fact of the plants or the feeling they are being "heard". I'm pretty sure heard converges with material reality at some point but is it 2 years or 10 years?
The material facts of the plants isn't really that hard of a thing. Trump can always pretend he did something to keep the plants there and a lot of people will believe him. He is already doing that.
If economic conditions did actually cost us the rust belt, I can't imagine those folks who voted on it are going to see a major upswing in the next couple of years from Obama Administration momentum. Either their communities were doing better under Obama or they weren't, two more years isn't going to make that much of a difference on the current trajectory, regardless of what national unemployment numbers look like.
Democrats could probably capitalize on something to the effect of "Where are those plants you said were going to be moved back to [insert rust belt state/town here], Donald?" Assuming of course they never do come back, anyway.
They won't come back. The question is, is it the material fact of the plants or the feeling they are being "heard". I'm pretty sure heard converges with material reality at some point but is it 2 years or 10 years?
The material facts of the plants isn't really that hard of a thing. Trump can always pretend he did something to keep the plants there and a lot of people will believe him. He is already doing that.
President-elect Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka sat in on his first face-to-face meeting with a foreign leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to a photo of the impromptu Trump Tower summit released by the Japanese government.
President-elect Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka sat in on his first face-to-face meeting with a foreign leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to a photo of the impromptu Trump Tower summit released by the Japanese government.
Going off that picture...is she the only one he had with him to meet the PM and his team? Did Trump have nobody from State with him?
President-elect Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka sat in on his first face-to-face meeting with a foreign leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to a photo of the impromptu Trump Tower summit released by the Japanese government.
Going off that picture...is she the only one he had with him to meet the PM and his team? Did Trump have nobody from State with him?
Well... he's not really the sitting President yet. I'm guessing this was not considered a formal head of state meeting.
President-elect Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka sat in on his first face-to-face meeting with a foreign leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to a photo of the impromptu Trump Tower summit released by the Japanese government.
Going off that picture...is she the only one he had with him to meet the PM and his team? Did Trump have nobody from State with him?
Well... he's not really the sitting President yet. I'm guessing this was not considered a formal head of state meeting.
They haven't even talked to State yet, by all accounts. Or Defense. Talked to Putin before DoD.
Self-righteousness is incompatible with coalition building.
President-elect Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka sat in on his first face-to-face meeting with a foreign leader, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe, according to a photo of the impromptu Trump Tower summit released by the Japanese government.
Going off that picture...is she the only one he had with him to meet the PM and his team? Did Trump have nobody from State with him?
Trump is talking with foreign leaders without state department help.
Since this story was written, the State Department said it was contacted by the president-elect's transition representatives. The phone call was apparently limited to a discussion about logistics.
The State Department's transition office has been quiet, as Trump and his top advisers remain in New York. State Department spokesman John Kirby says officials stand ready and willing to offer any briefing materials to the Trump team, but so far, there just haven't been any calls.
"It's not our place to inject ourselves into those decisions about who the president-elect is going to speak to and what they're going to discuss," Kirby told reporters Wednesday. "I mean, those are his staff's decisions to make. We, of course, stand ready to assist the president-elect's team in any way that they deem fit. But as I said, there's been no outreach to date."
Neumann is not surprised that Trump's advisers have been fielding calls from around the world without any input from the State Department.
"I would expect most of these calls will be sort of 'nice to know you, congratulations,' sort of getting-to-know-you calls, but without much substance," he says. "So there wouldn't be much need for a paper."
Thursday, Trump spoke with the president of Azerbaijan, the prime minister of the Netherlands and the president of Poland. He has already spoken with Russia's Vladimir Putin and China's Xi Jinping. Trump's transition officials say there were "appropriate security measures" for those calls, and Trump spokesman Sean Spicer says the president-elect does have his own team to get him ready to talk to world leaders.
"We are not going to discuss those individuals," Spicer says, "but there is a team that is discussing both policy and protocol to make sure he is properly prepared."
Trump literally thinks the Presidency is a Monarchy, and his children the Royal Family. He doesn't want any of the responsibility, just to be the wealthy figurehead that people defer to while he "Makes America Great Again". I am having severe doubts he'll even allow another election; he'll just say that there's no need, his fans will cheer, and he'll ignore anyone telling him otherwise.
I am having severe doubts he'll even allow another election; he'll just say that there's no need, his fans will cheer, and he'll ignore anyone telling him otherwise.
I am having severe doubts he'll even allow another election; he'll just say that there's no need, his fans will cheer, and he'll ignore anyone telling him otherwise.
Tim Ryan is in Maddow right now making a pretty explicit argument that to woo white working class voters they have to get rid of identity politics. That's the subtext of much of this argument and Tim Ryan isnt making much an effort at subtlety
He is challenging Pelosi on Leadership.
I feel like dropping minority outreach to try and appeal to whites is a recipe to ensure Democrats never get anywhere ever again. We need to find a way to appeal to both, as there's no way we can out-white the Pubs enough to not need minorities.
Trump literally thinks the Presidency is a Monarchy, and his children the Royal Family. He doesn't want any of the responsibility, just to be the wealthy figurehead that people defer to while he "Makes America Great Again". I am having severe doubts he'll even allow another election; he'll just say that there's no need, his fans will cheer, and he'll ignore anyone telling him otherwise.
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The material facts of the plants isn't really that hard of a thing. Trump can always pretend he did something to keep the plants there and a lot of people will believe him. He is already doing that.
As far as anybody can tell, the only speculation was moving the production to Chicago, not Mexico. I would be surprised if he doesn't do a lot more of this sort of thing and plenty of people in those areas are likely to believe him.
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/money/companies/2015/11/09/ford-workers-could-get-10k-signing-bonus/75457372/
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He has very extreme views re: Islam. Confirmation hearings when some of the Russia hawks ask him about his ties to RT are going to be fun.
Surprise!
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Yeah he seems pretty levelheaded compared to his compatriots in the Trump administration
Oh. Boo.
Hence why they're going to keep him away from DoD, aside from the whole eligibility problem.
Not sure it had an impact, but wasn't that what the anti-Clinton left said about this election (see for instance @mtracey)
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Flynn's son serves as Flynn's chief of staff and top aide. He takes after his father.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/17/politics/kfile-michael-flynn-social-media/index.html
Full Employment would mean rising labor force participation rates. Also, real wage gains as tight labor conditions increase bargaining power. The Fed will raise rates so things may plateau a bit early, but U-6 is only a point above its average. Things continuing to do as they're doing and we'll start to see pre-crash normality.
I think the time has come to show Christie all the compassion we can muster and commiserate with him about his horrible treatment at the hands of Trump. If it inspires him to plant a few political knives hilt-deep in the Trump administrations' back, well, why not support him in his endeavors?
The enemy of my enemy etc etc.
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Maybe I'm being too cynical, but I don't see how it's important even if true. His supporters won't care about a follow up detail like this, especially one from the liberal media.
The headline "FORD halts plan to move plant to Mexico" is already out there.
Edit: Erik Prince founded Blackwater
I know exactly how that phone call went.
Trump: Hey, Bill, are you planning on moving production to Mexico?
Bill: No, why?
Trump: *click*
Trump: Everyone, I convinced Bill Ford to keep production in Kentucky.
Assuming it even happened to begin with.
Going off that picture...is she the only one he had with him to meet the PM and his team? Did Trump have nobody from State with him?
Well... he's not really the sitting President yet. I'm guessing this was not considered a formal head of state meeting.
They haven't even talked to State yet, by all accounts. Or Defense. Talked to Putin before DoD.
http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/11/17/502469121/trump-is-in-contact-with-foreign-leaders-but-not-the-state-department
That's a bit much.
Literally irrelevant to anybody that is already a Trumpist.
Can't take anything off the table.
Or Canada.
Or anywhere [not in the US].
Trump is 100% that stupid.
Look at his picks, it's literally just "People who supported me" and "Anyone I vaguely know in that area".
I feel like dropping minority outreach to try and appeal to whites is a recipe to ensure Democrats never get anywhere ever again. We need to find a way to appeal to both, as there's no way we can out-white the Pubs enough to not need minorities.
The President doesn't "allow" elections.
I doubt he'd even try that, let alone succeed.