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The full list.
The Revival vs. #DIY — 2-out-of-3-Falls NXT Tag Team Championship Match (NXT TakeOver: Toronto)
Sami Zayn vs. Shinsuke Nakamura (NXT TakeOver: Dallas)
Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks — WWE Women’s Championship Match (Raw; July 25)
Sami Zayn vs. Kevin Owens (WWE Battleground)
Kota Ibushi vs. Cedric Alexander (Cruiserweight Classic; Aug. 10)
AJ Styles vs. Dean Ambrose vs. John Cena — Triple Threat WWE Championship Match (No Mercy)
Kevin Owens vs. Seth Rollins – No Disqualification WWE Universal Title Match (Raw, Nov. 21)
Charlotte Flair vs. Sasha Banks vs. Becky Lynch — Triple Threat WWE Women’s Championship Match (WrestleMania 32)
John Cena vs. AJ Styles (SummerSlam)
The Miz vs. Dolph Ziggler — Title vs. Career Intercontinental Championship Match (No Mercy)
Johnny Gargano vs. Tommaso Ciampa (Cruiserweight Classic, Aug. 3)
Roman Reigns vs. AJ Styles — Extreme Rules WWE Championship Match (Extreme Rules)
The Revival vs. American Alpha — NXT Tag Team Championship Match (NXT TakeOver: Dallas)
Finn Bálor vs. Seth Rollins — WWE Universal Championship Match (SummerSlam)
Sasha Banks vs. Charlotte Flair — Hell in a Cell Raw Women’s Championship Match (Hell in a Cell)
The Miz vs. Sami Zayn vs. Cesaro vs. Kevin Owens — Fatal 4-Way Intercontinental Championship Match (Extreme Rules)
Roman Reigns vs. Seth Rollins — WWE Championship Match (Money in the Bank)
Dolph Ziggler vs. Triple H (Raw, March 14)
The New Day vs. Y2AJ — WWE Tag Team Championship Match (Raw, March 7)
Asuka vs. Bayley — NXT Women’s Championship Match (NXT TakeOver: Brooklyn II)
Chris Jericho vs. AJ Styles (Fastlane)
Dean Ambrose vs. Kevin Owens vs. Chris Jericho vs. Cesaro vs. Sami Zayn vs. Alberto Del Rio — Money in the Bank Ladder Match (Money in the Bank)
The New Day vs. Luke Gallows & Karl Anderson — Raw Tag Team Championship Match (Raw, Sept. 26)
Team Raw (Kevin Owens, Roman Reigns, Chris Jericho, Seth Rollins & Braun Strowman) vs. Team SmackDown LIVE (AJ Styles, Dean Ambrose, Shane McMahon, Bray Wyatt & Randy Orton) — 5-on-5 Traditional Survivor Series Men’s Elimination Match (Survivor Series)
Triple H vs. Dean Ambrose — WWE Championship Match (WWE Roadblock)
And a list of people who are in more than two of these:
AJ Styles - 6
Kevin Owens - 5
Sami Zayn - 4
Chris Jericho - 4
Dean Ambrose - 4
Seth Rollins - 4
Charlotte Flair - 3
Roman Reigns - 3
Sasha Banks - 3
Hard to feel sorry for WCPW when they were trying to fuck over other indy companies by out spending them and booking shows on the same day.
Speaking of fucking over workers
According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, some Lucha Underground talents are reportedly frustrated since the company will not be taping more TV until fall of 2017. Talents had kept weekend dates free starting in February (when they were originally going to tape), or if they had dates, many had canceled them, and now they have to get new bookings for February, March and April. The frustration is that after all these years, they haven’t broken out, and it’s only seasonal work. But with talents locked into the seven season contracts, talents cannot explore working in places like WWE, New Japan and ROH.
Some top talent are trying to see if they can legally get themselves free from the deals and explore working elsewhere. Most of the talent is still happy this company is still around because it’s a regular paycheck in season (with the exception of guys like Rey Mysterio who are on guaranteed annual big money deals) Most talent is paid per television show they are on at the time the show is taped.
There is also more frustration, many hoped by this time that they’d be more of a force, be huge in the Hispanic community (they still don’t have a Spanish language outlet). Many also hoped that they would be doing house shows by now and that they would be making money off merchandise.
The LU situation reads to me like the producers being really uncertain if they're going to get another season.
Can't imagine a season 5 happens. If a season 4 happens, it's likely the last.
This year was the worst for them yet, and honestly it's due to the classic Overvalue. They thought they and wrestling were in the middle of a boom era, were surprised when Netflix refused at every opportunity to pay them what they thought they were worth, and the lack of accessibility this caused drove away a significant amount of people who were already going out of their way to view them. Uncertainty of how much longer they can keep going isn't making the amount that stayed confident, either.
I haven't watched any of it, but the general consensus seems to be this season is far inferior to the first two.
Honestly, I've enjoyed this season more than season 2. Season 1 was still better, though.
Hard to feel sorry for WCPW when they were trying to fuck over other indy companies by out spending them and booking shows on the same day.
Speaking of fucking over workers
According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, some Lucha Underground talents are reportedly frustrated since the company will not be taping more TV until fall of 2017. Talents had kept weekend dates free starting in February (when they were originally going to tape), or if they had dates, many had canceled them, and now they have to get new bookings for February, March and April. The frustration is that after all these years, they haven’t broken out, and it’s only seasonal work. But with talents locked into the seven season contracts, talents cannot explore working in places like WWE, New Japan and ROH.
Some top talent are trying to see if they can legally get themselves free from the deals and explore working elsewhere. Most of the talent is still happy this company is still around because it’s a regular paycheck in season (with the exception of guys like Rey Mysterio who are on guaranteed annual big money deals) Most talent is paid per television show they are on at the time the show is taped.
There is also more frustration, many hoped by this time that they’d be more of a force, be huge in the Hispanic community (they still don’t have a Spanish language outlet). Many also hoped that they would be doing house shows by now and that they would be making money off merchandise.
The LU situation reads to me like the producers being really uncertain if they're going to get another season.
Can't imagine a season 5 happens. If a season 4 happens, it's likely the last.
This year was the worst for them yet, and honestly it's due to the classic Overvalue. They thought they and wrestling were in the middle of a boom era, were surprised when Netflix refused at every opportunity to pay them what they thought they were worth, and the lack of accessibility this caused drove away a significant amount of people who were already going out of their way to view them. Uncertainty of how much longer they can keep going isn't making the amount that stayed confident, either.
I haven't watched any of it, but the general consensus seems to be this season is far inferior to the first two.
Honestly, I've enjoyed this season more than season 2. Season 1 was still better, though.
the MitB has become so central to WWE's yearly stories that Raw not having it would be a weird absence
also between MitB and Elimination Chamber, Smackdown gets the cool PPVs
Speaking of EC, a leaked ad may have spoiled the main event for it. Not the result but the pairing and match stip
Cena vs Styles WWE title 2 out of 3 falls
Which really doesn't make much sense unless a Raw brand talent wins the Rumble.
Or, you know...
If the Undertaker actually wins it. UT v. Cena and UT v. Styles has both been rumours for a while. It'd actually work as a way to have some honest to goodness uncertainty about the outcome, unlike most pre-WM PPVs.
the MitB has become so central to WWE's yearly stories that Raw not having it would be a weird absence
also between MitB and Elimination Chamber, Smackdown gets the cool PPVs
Speaking of EC, a leaked ad may have spoiled the main event for it. Not the result but the pairing and match stip
Cena vs Styles WWE title 2 out of 3 falls
Which really doesn't make much sense unless a Raw brand talent wins the Rumble.
Or, you know...
If the Undertaker actually wins it. UT v. Cena and UT v. Styles has both been rumours for a while. It'd actually work as a way to have some honest to goodness uncertainty about the outcome, unlike most pre-WM PPVs.
the MitB has become so central to WWE's yearly stories that Raw not having it would be a weird absence
also between MitB and Elimination Chamber, Smackdown gets the cool PPVs
Speaking of EC, a leaked ad may have spoiled the main event for it. Not the result but the pairing and match stip
Cena vs Styles WWE title 2 out of 3 falls
Which really doesn't make much sense unless a Raw brand talent wins the Rumble.
Or, you know...
If the Undertaker actually wins it. UT v. Cena and UT v. Styles has both been rumours for a while. It'd actually work as a way to have some honest to goodness uncertainty about the outcome, unlike most pre-WM PPVs.
Yeah but
fuck the Undertaker winning the Rumble
I won't disagree with people who think this but I would probably mark out if it happens. And feel ashamed afterwards.
Maybe the single biggest disappointment with my time watching wrestling so far is I haven't gotten to watch a Royal Rumble that made me super excited for WrestleMania
I've seen 2 at this point and the first made me actively mad and the second was mostly boredom
Maybe the single biggest disappointment with my time watching wrestling so far is I haven't gotten to watch a Royal Rumble that made me super excited for WrestleMania
I've seen 2 at this point and the first made me actively mad and the second was mostly boredom
Maybe the single biggest disappointment with my time watching wrestling so far is I haven't gotten to watch a Royal Rumble that made me super excited for WrestleMania
I've seen 2 at this point and the first made me actively mad and the second was mostly boredom
Hard to feel sorry for WCPW when they were trying to fuck over other indy companies by out spending them and booking shows on the same day.
Speaking of fucking over workers
According to The Wrestling Observer Newsletter, some Lucha Underground talents are reportedly frustrated since the company will not be taping more TV until fall of 2017. Talents had kept weekend dates free starting in February (when they were originally going to tape), or if they had dates, many had canceled them, and now they have to get new bookings for February, March and April. The frustration is that after all these years, they haven’t broken out, and it’s only seasonal work. But with talents locked into the seven season contracts, talents cannot explore working in places like WWE, New Japan and ROH.
Some top talent are trying to see if they can legally get themselves free from the deals and explore working elsewhere. Most of the talent is still happy this company is still around because it’s a regular paycheck in season (with the exception of guys like Rey Mysterio who are on guaranteed annual big money deals) Most talent is paid per television show they are on at the time the show is taped.
There is also more frustration, many hoped by this time that they’d be more of a force, be huge in the Hispanic community (they still don’t have a Spanish language outlet). Many also hoped that they would be doing house shows by now and that they would be making money off merchandise.
The LU situation reads to me like the producers being really uncertain if they're going to get another season.
Can't imagine a season 5 happens. If a season 4 happens, it's likely the last.
This year was the worst for them yet, and honestly it's due to the classic Overvalue. They thought they and wrestling were in the middle of a boom era, were surprised when Netflix refused at every opportunity to pay them what they thought they were worth, and the lack of accessibility this caused drove away a significant amount of people who were already going out of their way to view them. Uncertainty of how much longer they can keep going isn't making the amount that stayed confident, either.
Oh hey, it's the thing I said would happen! Weird how that works out.
I'm pretty convinced Taker will win the Rumble now, assuming his health is up to it. Him vs Cena, Roman, Styles, or Owens are all conceivably big time Mania match ups, with added intrigue of whether Taker actually loses.
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This year's Rumble really should have been more exciting considering how many potential winners they could have had and how cool the 92 Royal Rumble for the title concept is. Unfortunately they gave it to Roman Reigns by way of HHH despite years of the audience literally screaming that they don't want that.
This year's Rumble really should have been more exciting considering how many potential winners they could have had and how cool the 92 Royal Rumble for the title concept is. Unfortunately they gave it to Roman Reigns by way of HHH despite years of the audience literally screaming that they don't want that.
This is another reason Taker might win. It's a guaranteed super pop in a huge stadium, and WWE wants that despite the belief they don't care how the crowd reacts anymore.
I wouldn't mind a Cena/UT match at wrestlemania at all, but having a title involved does literally nothing for it. Honestly, in a vacuum I'd enjoy UT winning the Rumble, but there's nothing storyline-wise that would be compelling there. If Cena can come back and be like "yo, I'm John Cena so titleshot is go" then why wouldn't UT have the same cache?
I wouldn't mind a Cena/UT match at wrestlemania at all, but having a title involved does literally nothing for it. Honestly, in a vacuum I'd enjoy UT winning the Rumble, but there's nothing storyline-wise that would be compelling there. If Cena can come back and be like "yo, I'm John Cena so titleshot is go" then why wouldn't UT have the same cache?
The Deadman is now as far beyond other wrestlers as other wrestlers are beyond mere mortals, titles hold no meaning for him anymore, only ensuring the legend of the Undertaker never dies.
Matev on
"Go down, kick ass, and set yourselves up as gods, that's our Prime Directive!"
This year's Rumble really should have been more exciting considering how many potential winners they could have had and how cool the 92 Royal Rumble for the title concept is. Unfortunately they gave it to Roman Reigns by way of HHH despite years of the audience literally screaming that they don't want that.
There are lots of people who could win, but no contenders who are over enough to make people explode. Add in that there haven't been any rules defined in what exactly it is they're fighting for now since it used to be the main event at Mania and the world title but now there's two "world" titles so assumedly you still get the main event, but what title? When you win, do we go oh shit it's X vs AJ Styles? Or X vs Kevin Owens? Or god forbid X vs Roman Reigns?
It immediately deflates a lot of the excitement compared to say oh shit, Austin won, the most over guy ever is going to face one of the greatest superstars ever.
I can't think of anyone who is THAT over to face someone like AJ Styles, someone who has been held back or screwed over from getting that chance but bam, he's won the Rumble and he's going to Mania!
I'd guess they go with Bray Wyatt because if you're gonna pull the pin finally, him taking down AJ Styles in the mania main event is the way to do it.
Plus I could see this being Taker's last Mania match. Not that he'd necessarily retire for good, just that he said he didn't want Mania completely defining him.
This year's Rumble really should have been more exciting considering how many potential winners they could have had and how cool the 92 Royal Rumble for the title concept is. Unfortunately they gave it to Roman Reigns by way of HHH despite years of the audience literally screaming that they don't want that.
There are lots of people who could win, but no contenders who are over enough to make people explode. Add in that there haven't been any rules defined in what exactly it is they're fighting for now since it used to be the main event at Mania and the world title but now there's two "world" titles so assumedly you still get the main event, but what title? When you win, do we go oh shit it's X vs AJ Styles? Or X vs Kevin Owens? Or god forbid X vs Roman Reigns?
It immediately deflates a lot of the excitement compared to say oh shit, Austin won, the most over guy ever is going to face one of the greatest superstars ever.
I can't think of anyone who is THAT over to face someone like AJ Styles, someone who has been held back or screwed over from getting that chance but bam, he's won the Rumble and he's going to Mania!
I'd guess they go with Bray Wyatt because if you're gonna pull the pin finally, him taking down AJ Styles in the mania main event is the way to do it.
In the previous brand split, the RR winner had the option to challenge any World Champion.
This led to the awkward moment where Undertaker (I believe) was choosing his opponent, and the ECW Champion was standing there between the two World Champions.
This year's Rumble really should have been more exciting considering how many potential winners they could have had and how cool the 92 Royal Rumble for the title concept is. Unfortunately they gave it to Roman Reigns by way of HHH despite years of the audience literally screaming that they don't want that.
There are lots of people who could win, but no contenders who are over enough to make people explode. Add in that there haven't been any rules defined in what exactly it is they're fighting for now since it used to be the main event at Mania and the world title but now there's two "world" titles so assumedly you still get the main event, but what title? When you win, do we go oh shit it's X vs AJ Styles? Or X vs Kevin Owens? Or god forbid X vs Roman Reigns?
It immediately deflates a lot of the excitement compared to say oh shit, Austin won, the most over guy ever is going to face one of the greatest superstars ever.
I can't think of anyone who is THAT over to face someone like AJ Styles, someone who has been held back or screwed over from getting that chance but bam, he's won the Rumble and he's going to Mania!
I'd guess they go with Bray Wyatt because if you're gonna pull the pin finally, him taking down AJ Styles in the mania main event is the way to do it.
In the previous brand split, the RR winner had the option to challenge any World Champion.
This led to the awkward moment where Undertaker (I believe) was choosing his opponent, and the ECW Champion was standing there between the two World Champions.
Yep, from 2007 to 2009 the WWECW champ was a RR option.
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Did I hear a homophobic slur right at the start (not said by Owens)
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Not your fault, and honestly I might have misheard.
Owens is wonderful, though.
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And a list of people who are in more than two of these:
AJ Styles - 6
Kevin Owens - 5
Sami Zayn - 4
Chris Jericho - 4
Dean Ambrose - 4
Seth Rollins - 4
Charlotte Flair - 3
Roman Reigns - 3
Sasha Banks - 3
Not really a surprise who came out on top there.
Huh.
like
the MitB has become so central to WWE's yearly stories that Raw not having it would be a weird absence
also between MitB and Elimination Chamber, Smackdown gets the cool PPVs
Honestly, I've enjoyed this season more than season 2. Season 1 was still better, though.
Biggest complaint is no real overarching story.
tyler...
Speaking of EC, a leaked ad may have spoiled the main event for it. Not the result but the pairing and match stip
Which really doesn't make much sense unless a Raw brand talent wins the Rumble.
they've had title matches going towards Mania before, remember that HHH/Ambrose was for the WWE Title
Have Cena lose, AJ faces the Rumble winner and Cena faces Taker
Or, you know...
I won't disagree with people who think this but I would probably mark out if it happens. And feel ashamed afterwards.
In that way yes I'm a WWE homer for life.
I've seen 2 at this point and the first made me actively mad and the second was mostly boredom
and then the one before that was worse!
How would you fell about Braun winning
like
I wouldn't hate it, but it doesn't get me jazzed
Oh hey, it's the thing I said would happen! Weird how that works out.
3DS: 2981-5304-3227
This is another reason Taker might win. It's a guaranteed super pop in a huge stadium, and WWE wants that despite the belief they don't care how the crowd reacts anymore.
Just need to decide on the sign I'll bring
The Deadman is now as far beyond other wrestlers as other wrestlers are beyond mere mortals, titles hold no meaning for him anymore, only ensuring the legend of the Undertaker never dies.
There are lots of people who could win, but no contenders who are over enough to make people explode. Add in that there haven't been any rules defined in what exactly it is they're fighting for now since it used to be the main event at Mania and the world title but now there's two "world" titles so assumedly you still get the main event, but what title? When you win, do we go oh shit it's X vs AJ Styles? Or X vs Kevin Owens? Or god forbid X vs Roman Reigns?
It immediately deflates a lot of the excitement compared to say oh shit, Austin won, the most over guy ever is going to face one of the greatest superstars ever.
I can't think of anyone who is THAT over to face someone like AJ Styles, someone who has been held back or screwed over from getting that chance but bam, he's won the Rumble and he's going to Mania!
I'd guess they go with Bray Wyatt because if you're gonna pull the pin finally, him taking down AJ Styles in the mania main event is the way to do it.
In the previous brand split, the RR winner had the option to challenge any World Champion.
This led to the awkward moment where Undertaker (I believe) was choosing his opponent, and the ECW Champion was standing there between the two World Champions.
3DS: 2981-5304-3227
Yep, from 2007 to 2009 the WWECW champ was a RR option.
Fifa tournament continues to be pretty solid. Rusev is pretty entertaining, shame he's a Madrid fan though.
Brett Dalton, you can do better than this, come on Agent Ward
The ultimate heel turn
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You did. He didn't say a homophobic slur.
The guy is saying to Owens (or possibly someone else), "You're a fat bastard". Or some other insult. But it isn't the one people think it is.
From the little I just read up on it, he got cast on this not long after the first season of Agents of Shield, so probably not at the time.