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  • VeagleVeagle Registered User regular
    Cool! The Secret World is a game I really want to like, but every time I try to get into it, I just can't stay with it for more then a few days.

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    I want to be hopeful, but the details are really vague and I worry that they're going to remove the things that make TSW unique and turn it into a P2W F2P nightmare.

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  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Veagle wrote: »
    Cool! The Secret World is a game I really want to like, but every time I try to get into it, I just can't stay with it for more then a few days.

    I love the world they built but actually playing it is so boring

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    No one's posted in the Dead Space thread in six months, so instead of necro-ing, I'm posting this here.

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  • Munkus BeaverMunkus Beaver Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited February 2017
    Peewi wrote: »
    The pull of the sequel would be that they are putting the Dragon Ball Super stuff in that so you can look forward to the insanity of fighting female Broly at some point in the future.

    They're going to be adding characters from the current arc? I had only heard that they'd be doing ones from the last one.

    I mean, if they are going to add the dumb as fuck Goku Black arc then adding some of the characters from the current arc - which is a multiverse fighting tourney and basically rife with new characters for them to play with - basically seems like a way to print money.

    EDIT: And it's female Broly.

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  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I want to be hopeful, but the details are really vague and I worry that they're going to remove the things that make TSW unique and turn it into a P2W F2P nightmare.

    Honestly it pretty much already is.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I want to be hopeful, but the details are really vague and I worry that they're going to remove the things that make TSW unique and turn it into a P2W F2P nightmare.

    Honestly it pretty much already is.

    Sorry if I defer to myself as a better authority on the current state of the game.

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Shit, I almost forgot that Torment: Tides of Numenera is out today

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Yeah! I'm looking forward to playing that tonight. I played a little of the Early Access version but shied away from doing too much in it because it's not the full game.

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    It's the same people who do Tyranny etc right? I find the gameplay on those deeply uninspiring.

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  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Tube wrote: »
    It's the same people who do Tyranny etc right? I find the gameplay on those deeply uninspiring.

    Nope, it's inXile, the people that did Wasteland 2 along with Chris Avellone writing

    EDIT: I think McComb, one of the main designers on Planescape, also ended up with inXile at some point

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Oooh, how did Wasteland 2 play?

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    It actually uses the PoE engine, apparently, but it's turn-based combat. From what little I played of it it seems neat, and I guess combat encounters don't have to be solved using violence? Not quite sure.

  • Magic PinkMagic Pink Tur-Boner-Fed Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Magic Pink wrote: »
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    I want to be hopeful, but the details are really vague and I worry that they're going to remove the things that make TSW unique and turn it into a P2W F2P nightmare.

    Honestly it pretty much already is.

    Sorry if I defer to myself as a better authority on the current state of the game.

    if you honestly think it's that important, sure, go for it.

  • MaddocMaddoc I'm Bobbin Threadbare, are you my mother? Registered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    It actually uses the PoE engine, apparently, but it's turn-based combat. From what little I played of it it seems neat, and I guess combat encounters don't have to be solved using violence? Not quite sure.

    I had heard they were adapting Monte Cook's Numenera system, but I haven't really been keeping a super close eye on it.

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  • DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    Funcom had an investor conference today, and this was in the presentation:
    TSW.jpg

    Here's hoping this changes the combat that everyone complains about. There's an "action" mode in the game that makes you aim everything with a reticle, but the actually attacks are still just hotbars, so maybe this will lead to something more action based.

    I'd be tempted to come back to the game if they just gave you a few more hotbar slots for abilities. Eight wasn't enough for any interesting combat, especially when playing a tank when that eight was cut down by taunts, interrupts, and oh-shit cooldowns to 2-3 attack.

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  • JedocJedoc Bringing the past to life so we can beat it to death with a shovelRegistered User regular
    Tube wrote: »
    Oooh, how did Wasteland 2 play?

    I thought it did a good job of capturing the spirit of the old isometric Fallout games. The combat played like a polished turn-based version of Fallout Tactics, and they did a great job of stuffing the world with interesting things to see and do. Lots of good NPCs to interact with, and the different communities have interesting backstories and aesthetics to distinguish themselves from one another. Questwise, there's often ways to use high skills to partially or fully resolve situations without violence, but you're going to be doing a lot of combat regardless.

    Playing through the first time it's hard to design four characters from scratch without knowing how a lot of the non-combat skills function in the world and between party members, so I'd advise going in with the intention of restarting after the first 45 minutes or so once you get a feel for things.

    This is all in reference to the Director's Cut, which completely replaced the original version. I hear the combat in particular is...less good in the original version.

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  • LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
    Maddoc wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    It actually uses the PoE engine, apparently, but it's turn-based combat. From what little I played of it it seems neat, and I guess combat encounters don't have to be solved using violence? Not quite sure.

    I had heard they were adapting Monte Cook's Numenera system, but I haven't really been keeping a super close eye on it.

    It does use that system.

    Basically you have 3 pools of points that are Might, Speed, and Intelligence. You can spend from these pools to increase your chances at succeeding at certain things, but then that however much you used from that pool is spent until you either use an item to recover it or rest. I've only played a little (literally hit the first screen of the major hub and haven't left yet) but so far it seems really cool, and the setting is wonderful.

    I've heard from around that it's really good at the start but the ending starts to feel like they cut a lot of corners to get it finished and they aren't as good as the beginning areas, but so far I'm super enjoying it. I've had all of one fight so far because my dude is clever enough to avoid fighting most of the time, but apparently even if you do get into a fight you can sometimes just talk to them and reason them out of fighting you.

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    The setting seems real real cool, yeah. I deffo dig it a lot.

  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    Jedoc wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    Oooh, how did Wasteland 2 play?

    I thought it did a good job of capturing the spirit of the old isometric Fallout games. The combat played like a polished turn-based version of Fallout Tactics, and they did a great job of stuffing the world with interesting things to see and do. Lots of good NPCs to interact with, and the different communities have interesting backstories and aesthetics to distinguish themselves from one another. Questwise, there's often ways to use high skills to partially or fully resolve situations without violence, but you're going to be doing a lot of combat regardless.

    Playing through the first time it's hard to design four characters from scratch without knowing how a lot of the non-combat skills function in the world and between party members, so I'd advise going in with the intention of restarting after the first 45 minutes or so once you get a feel for things.

    This is all in reference to the Director's Cut, which completely replaced the original version. I hear the combat in particular is...less good in the original version.

    It's okay. Fallout Tactics is a good comparison.
    (I kind of like fallout Tactics better)

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    I'm assuming the combat in the new Torment game will be similarly uninspiring as Pillars of Eternity.
    But I have high hopes for the writing and roleplaying systems!

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  • something a million times dumbersomething a million times dumber JUDGE BROSEF Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    I want to get Torment but my gaming budget is already spent on Zelda and Andromeda until April

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    I really like the Pillars of Eternity combat, honestly

    It feels like a version of Baldur's Gate combat that's actually been designed to be a video game and not a hack of a tabletop RPG

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    I'm not a big fan of cool down ability management gameplay,
    and I want abilities to be more mechanically interesting, rather than a matching game of attacks to weaknesses.

    Divinity Original Sin, probably better fits the concept of "Inspired Combat."
    That game had a bunch of fun, combos that dramatically alter the game world, beyond the damage numbers.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    edited February 2017
    See, I found that while Divinity's combat looked cool, it was ultimately really hollow feeling

    Also you had to cast spells in order to be at all useful in a fight/interface with the cool parts of combat, which is dogshit

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  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Decomposey wrote: »
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    Funcom had an investor conference today, and this was in the presentation:
    TSW.jpg

    Here's hoping this changes the combat that everyone complains about. There's an "action" mode in the game that makes you aim everything with a reticle, but the actually attacks are still just hotbars, so maybe this will lead to something more action based.

    I'd be tempted to come back to the game if they just gave you a few more hotbar slots for abilities. Eight wasn't enough for any interesting combat, especially when playing a tank when that eight was cut down by taunts, interrupts, and oh-shit cooldowns to 2-3 attack.

    No, see, that's exactly the kind of thing that would make me stop playing the game.

    I fucking hate playing games where you have to have three dozen abilities to be babysitting all the damn time, firing off seven different cooldowns and shit.

    Having a smaller skillbar requires you to be more thoughtful about what the build is, and the game was designed with the smaller skillbar in mind.

    Tank builds are only necessary in dungeons, where people tend to come up with builds specific for each dungeon. There's no end of solo builds you can make.

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited February 2017
    Straightzi wrote: »
    See, I found that while Divinity's combat looked cool, it was ultimately really hollow feeling

    Also you had to cast spells in order to be at all useful in a fight/interface with the cool parts of combat, which is dogshit

    I'm pretty sure a flaming sword could light things on fire. you also had grenades which ruled. oh and you had arrows too. so that really isn't true at all.

    but I can't stand ap point based systems like that, it felt too plodding.

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  • DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    DarkPrimus wrote: »
    Decomposey wrote: »
    Crippl3 wrote: »
    Funcom had an investor conference today, and this was in the presentation:
    TSW.jpg

    Here's hoping this changes the combat that everyone complains about. There's an "action" mode in the game that makes you aim everything with a reticle, but the actually attacks are still just hotbars, so maybe this will lead to something more action based.

    I'd be tempted to come back to the game if they just gave you a few more hotbar slots for abilities. Eight wasn't enough for any interesting combat, especially when playing a tank when that eight was cut down by taunts, interrupts, and oh-shit cooldowns to 2-3 attack.

    No, see, that's exactly the kind of thing that would make me stop playing the game.

    I fucking hate playing games where you have to have three dozen abilities to be babysitting all the damn time, firing off seven different cooldowns and shit.

    Having a smaller skillbar requires you to be more thoughtful about what the build is, and the game was designed with the smaller skillbar in mind.

    Tank builds are only necessary in dungeons, where people tend to come up with builds specific for each dungeon. There's no end of solo builds you can make.

    I did a lot of Nightmares and Raids.

    For 80% for the fights, I was pressing two buttons. It was DULL.

    And when I wasn't doing dungeons, nothing was strong enough for me to need anything but my basic builder attacks, because I was geared for nightmares.

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  • Crippl3Crippl3 oh noRegistered User regular
    edited March 2017


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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    It's just not Turok without the fog of not being able to see shit more than 50 feet away...

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    I've got 2-3 hours in on Torment, and haven't gotten in a single fight yet, so I literally cannot comment on the combat system

    I've talked my way through or around anything even resembling a violent conflict, and it's always been deeply satisfying

    Also, in character generation, you can pick one sort of defining personality trait. Maybe you're "Brave" or "Cunning" or whatever. But there are separate traits for "Charming" and "Slick," and they have distinct bonuses when approaching conversation. When I realized this, I had to walk away from the game, find my phone, and text my friends about how I wanted to marry a series of bits and bytes.

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  • PiptheFairPiptheFair Registered User regular
    I've got 2-3 hours in on Torment, and haven't gotten in a single fight yet, so I literally cannot comment on the combat system

    I've talked my way through or around anything even resembling a violent conflict, and it's always been deeply satisfying

    Also, in character generation, you can pick one sort of defining personality trait. Maybe you're "Brave" or "Cunning" or whatever. But there are separate traits for "Charming" and "Slick," and they have distinct bonuses when approaching conversation. When I realized this, I had to walk away from the game, find my phone, and text my friends about how I wanted to marry a series of bits and bytes.
    let me know if you find baby oil in the game

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  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Yeah, Torment seems pretty rad so far. The only combat I've done is the tutorial bit in the very intro which... is actually really cool if you can avoid that?

    I'm playing a Clever Jack. Pretty neat.

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  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, Torment seems pretty rad so far. The only combat I've done is the tutorial bit in the very intro which... is actually really cool if you can avoid that?

    I'm playing a Clever Jack. Pretty neat.

    Oh, I didn't count the tutorial in my assessment. That'd be sick if there was a way around even that, though!

  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, Torment seems pretty rad so far. The only combat I've done is the tutorial bit in the very intro which... is actually really cool if you can avoid that?

    I'm playing a Clever Jack. Pretty neat.

    Oh, I didn't count the tutorial in my assessment. That'd be sick if there was a way around even that, though!

    Yeah, that's fair.
    Real interested in where the story goes with this Changing God business. Especially after encountering The Genocide in the Circus district.

  • PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, Torment seems pretty rad so far. The only combat I've done is the tutorial bit in the very intro which... is actually really cool if you can avoid that?

    I'm playing a Clever Jack. Pretty neat.

    Oh, I didn't count the tutorial in my assessment. That'd be sick if there was a way around even that, though!

    Yeah, that's fair.
    Real interested in where the story goes with this Changing God business. Especially after encountering The Genocide in the Circus district.

    I am in LOVE with how many random characters have these rich, devastating little stories, and I'm barely into it.

    Like, if you haven't yet, talk to the kid running around in the market and his parents. The shading to the heartbreak in that story is so, so rich. I agonized over how to have my character respond to it, and it was just these three little NPCS down in the corner of the first city map you hit. Heckuva game.

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I really like the Pillars of Eternity combat, honestly

    It feels like a version of Baldur's Gate combat that's actually been designed to be a video game and not a hack of a tabletop RPG

    I like PoEs combat but felt like Tyranny was a much too simplified version of it and lost a lot of what made it interesting as a result.

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  • StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    TheStig wrote: »
    Straightzi wrote: »
    I really like the Pillars of Eternity combat, honestly

    It feels like a version of Baldur's Gate combat that's actually been designed to be a video game and not a hack of a tabletop RPG

    I like PoEs combat but felt like Tyranny was a much too simplified version of it and lost a lot of what made it interesting as a result.

    I overall preferred PoE combat as well. Tyranny was still pretty good, but the drastic imbalance in number of moves between the Fatebinder and everyone else (due to combos and reputation moves) was very frustrating to me. Spellcaster NPCs could sort of make up the deficit, provided your character build wasn't much a spellcaster themself.

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist screaming Registered User regular
    Stardew Valley is 20% off. Is it worth it or should I wait for a bigger sale?

  • LorahaloLorahalo Registered User regular
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    Moriveth wrote: »
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Yeah, Torment seems pretty rad so far. The only combat I've done is the tutorial bit in the very intro which... is actually really cool if you can avoid that?

    I'm playing a Clever Jack. Pretty neat.

    Oh, I didn't count the tutorial in my assessment. That'd be sick if there was a way around even that, though!

    Yeah, that's fair.
    Real interested in where the story goes with this Changing God business. Especially after encountering The Genocide in the Circus district.

    I am in LOVE with how many random characters have these rich, devastating little stories, and I'm barely into it.

    Like, if you haven't yet, talk to the kid running around in the market and his parents. The shading to the heartbreak in that story is so, so rich. I agonized over how to have my character respond to it, and it was just these three little NPCS down in the corner of the first city map you hit. Heckuva game.

    That kid
    actually helps with fixing that clock near the cultists if you pay attention to his story. I managed to fix the clock without smashing anything because I remembered he mentioned one of the buildings in the memories you can lock to the devices.

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