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  • Sir LandsharkSir Landshark resting shark face Registered User regular
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    It's hilarious watching Heisendong one trick Heimer in challenger elo. Any champ can win you games in league if you play it enough and are good.

    Does he play mostly top lane?

    Playing a melee into Heimer is the stuff tilt is made of.

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    I only see him when he's duo with other people I watch stream, and I think he queues top/mid. He's just so good at Heimer that in either lane he is very good at turning ganks and getting big.

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  • MarauderMarauder Registered User regular
    Heimer is the first champ I bought when I started league. He is probably the most "fun" I have on any champ because its just super amusing to run around your turret field and watch the other player make the decision to try to focus you and die to turrets or focus turrets and die to you.

    He is hella weak though if he gets out ahead of his field though without turrets to drop. His role is more lane denial than actual push, but I also build him with Rylais and Liandrys over Zhonyas so what do i know :biggrin:

  • KoregKoreg Registered User regular
    Marauder wrote: »
    Heimer is the first champ I bought when I started league. He is probably the most "fun" I have on any champ because its just super amusing to run around your turret field and watch the other player make the decision to try to focus you and die to turrets or focus turrets and die to you.

    He is hella weak though if he gets out ahead of his field though without turrets to drop. His role is more lane denial than actual push, but I also build him with Rylais and Liandrys over Zhonyas so what do i know :biggrin:

    That's basically what I do, except I generally start with Rylai's or Abyssal depending on who I'm against. If it's a close range (Kat or Talon or something) I get Rylai's. If it's a magic damage I grab Abyssal. I'm not sure if it actually increases turret damage or not though. I should look into that.

    Full build is generally Rylai, Abyssal, Liandry, Zhonya, Ionian Boots, and Deathcap if it goes that late game. Which oddly enough is the same thing I build for my Velkoz.

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  • MarauderMarauder Registered User regular
    Koreg wrote: »
    Marauder wrote: »
    Heimer is the first champ I bought when I started league. He is probably the most "fun" I have on any champ because its just super amusing to run around your turret field and watch the other player make the decision to try to focus you and die to turrets or focus turrets and die to you.

    He is hella weak though if he gets out ahead of his field though without turrets to drop. His role is more lane denial than actual push, but I also build him with Rylais and Liandrys over Zhonyas so what do i know :biggrin:

    That's basically what I do, except I generally start with Rylai's or Abyssal depending on who I'm against. If it's a close range (Kat or Talon or something) I get Rylai's. If it's a magic damage I grab Abyssal. I'm not sure if it actually increases turret damage or not though. I should look into that.

    Full build is generally Rylai, Abyssal, Liandry, Zhonya, Ionian Boots, and Deathcap if it goes that late game. Which oddly enough is the same thing I build for my Velkoz.

    Yeah Im not a big fan of Zhonyas, it just isnt super useful unless both it and your ult are up. Id rather have constant utility of slows and burns, Abyssal or Void Staff for penetration. And i will usually build a Spirit Visage if I need survivability, accents his passive.

    I haven't played serious in a year or so, I just ARAM it every now and then, but I just noticed the changes to Rod of Ages.....mana and health sustain? When did that happen? Seems like a no brainer now to build on most AP champs.

  • Red RaevynRed Raevyn because I only take Bubble Baths Registered User regular
    There was a mage rework around May? 2016 that changed a lot of the items.

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  • LoserForHireXLoserForHireX Philosopher King The AcademyRegistered User regular
    Easily one of the less fun things on the rift right now is the banner of command zzrot heimer

    welcome to sitting in a lane all game to stop the pushing

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    http://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/2017/01/dev-on-state-of-the-game-january-2017/

    Maybe some support buffs?

    Hmm. Also the new Warwick bio does not line up with the "Engineering the Nightmare" Singed story. In that story, when Warwick lost his arm, it appeared to describe a protolimb growing in the place of the severed arm, which he then builds a hextech framework for, so the protolimb can grow into it. In the new character bio, it states that Singed re-attached the severed limb and augmented it, which contradicts the Singed story.

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    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    State of the game stuff is interesting. I would argue that it's more some junglers are overtuned than it's a problem with the role as a whole. Junglers really should be ganking a lot, if you ask me--the other end of the pendulum is always farm never gank, and those have fewer counterplay options for teams. And I'm sure making Krugs even stronger (doesn't everyone skip those right now?) is the solution to getting junglers doing them more often...

    But ah well. That's one of the fun things about playing jungle: you get a new map every season.
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Hmm. Also the new Warwick bio does not line up with the "Engineering the Nightmare" Singed story. In that story, when Warwick lost his arm, it appeared to describe a protolimb growing in the place of the severed arm, which he then builds a hextech framework for, so the protolimb can grow into it. In the new character bio, it states that Singed re-attached the severed limb and augmented it, which contradicts the Singed story.

    If you're looking for consistent storytellers, you are looking in the wrong game

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Ivellius wrote: »
    State of the game stuff is interesting. I would argue that it's more some junglers are overtuned than it's a problem with the role as a whole. Junglers really should be ganking a lot, if you ask me--the other end of the pendulum is always farm never gank, and those have fewer counterplay options for teams. And I'm sure making Krugs even stronger (doesn't everyone skip those right now?) is the solution to getting junglers doing them more often...

    But ah well. That's one of the fun things about playing jungle: you get a new map every season.
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Hmm. Also the new Warwick bio does not line up with the "Engineering the Nightmare" Singed story. In that story, when Warwick lost his arm, it appeared to describe a protolimb growing in the place of the severed arm, which he then builds a hextech framework for, so the protolimb can grow into it. In the new character bio, it states that Singed re-attached the severed limb and augmented it, which contradicts the Singed story.

    If you're looking for consistent storytellers, you are looking in the wrong game

    I understand that the lore is a work in progress. I just found it jarring to have such an integral inconsistency within two pieces of "new lore" that were released not even a month apart. The odd thing is, either version could be canon based on the appearance of the limb ingame.

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    Ivellius wrote: »
    State of the game stuff is interesting. I would argue that it's more some junglers are overtuned than it's a problem with the role as a whole. Junglers really should be ganking a lot, if you ask me--the other end of the pendulum is always farm never gank, and those have fewer counterplay options for teams. And I'm sure making Krugs even stronger (doesn't everyone skip those right now?) is the solution to getting junglers doing them more often...

    But ah well. That's one of the fun things about playing jungle: you get a new map every season.
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Hmm. Also the new Warwick bio does not line up with the "Engineering the Nightmare" Singed story. In that story, when Warwick lost his arm, it appeared to describe a protolimb growing in the place of the severed arm, which he then builds a hextech framework for, so the protolimb can grow into it. In the new character bio, it states that Singed re-attached the severed limb and augmented it, which contradicts the Singed story.

    If you're looking for consistent storytellers, you are looking in the wrong game

    The problem with junglers is there isn't a choice between farm and gank right now. You can farm your entire jungle, have the exp of a solo laner with a good amount of gold, and while waiting on the jungle respawns you do your ganks. There's no farm or gank choice any more. It's farm AND gank and if you end up getting an early kill or two, god help the other team because now you'll often be higher level than a solo laner and just terrorizing the whole world.

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  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Joshmvii wrote: »
    Ivellius wrote: »
    State of the game stuff is interesting. I would argue that it's more some junglers are overtuned than it's a problem with the role as a whole. Junglers really should be ganking a lot, if you ask me--the other end of the pendulum is always farm never gank, and those have fewer counterplay options for teams. And I'm sure making Krugs even stronger (doesn't everyone skip those right now?) is the solution to getting junglers doing them more often...

    But ah well. That's one of the fun things about playing jungle: you get a new map every season.
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Hmm. Also the new Warwick bio does not line up with the "Engineering the Nightmare" Singed story. In that story, when Warwick lost his arm, it appeared to describe a protolimb growing in the place of the severed arm, which he then builds a hextech framework for, so the protolimb can grow into it. In the new character bio, it states that Singed re-attached the severed limb and augmented it, which contradicts the Singed story.

    If you're looking for consistent storytellers, you are looking in the wrong game

    The problem with junglers is there isn't a choice between farm and gank right now. You can farm your entire jungle, have the exp of a solo laner with a good amount of gold, and while waiting on the jungle respawns you do your ganks. There's no farm or gank choice any more. It's farm AND gank and if you end up getting an early kill or two, god help the other team because now you'll often be higher level than a solo laner and just terrorizing the whole world.

    Or you farm, then take their jungler's farm too and be a terror that way.

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    Yeah, the longer camp respawns have made counter jungling more potent again which is cool. I think the jungle is in a relatively cool spot, they just gotta figure out how to make the jungler have a bit harder time making the farm or gank decision instead of just being able to do both no problem.

  • KelorKelor Registered User regular
    Marauder wrote: »
    Heimer is the first champ I bought when I started league. He is probably the most "fun" I have on any champ because its just super amusing to run around your turret field and watch the other player make the decision to try to focus you and die to turrets or focus turrets and die to you.

    He is hella weak though if he gets out ahead of his field though without turrets to drop. His role is more lane denial than actual push, but I also build him with Rylais and Liandrys over Zhonyas so what do i know :biggrin:

    He was also the first champ I ever bought as well, just because I like to play defensively.

    Unfortunately I started right after they nerfed him (rightfully) from having four turrets and his grenades dealing damage to towers so I got a lot of stick for it.

    IIRC it was right after a Vlad released and Garen, Vlad, Xin and Teemo were dominating everything.

    Then I discovered the wonders of Bankplank.

  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Hey folks, just theorycraft, but on Swain top, would it make sense to rush Rylai's before RoA to take advantage of the slows from Rylai's making it a lot easier for Swain to land his full combo and get close/kite more easily?

    E will slow, setting up an easier-to-land W+Q combo, then R will continue to reapply slow to finish or to diseangage if chased.

    Thoughts?

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • Red RaevynRed Raevyn because I only take Bubble Baths Registered User regular
    I thought you always rush RoA if you are going to buy it at all, because you want to get it stacking as soon as possible to really benefit from it.

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  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Hey folks, just theorycraft, but on Swain top, would it make sense to rush Rylai's before RoA to take advantage of the slows from Rylai's making it a lot easier for Swain to land his full combo and get close/kite more easily?

    E will slow, setting up an easier-to-land W+Q combo, then R will continue to reapply slow to finish or to diseangage if chased.

    Thoughts?

    you want roa for the sustain and ability to survive and to get bigger. Rylai's would come later when you need the utility, but I wouldn't really bother picking it up on swain honestly.

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  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    I think if you're going to buy RoA you have to get it first. Unless you get lucky with kills or farm insanely well you're getting RoA at what, 15 minutes? That means it takes until 25 minutes into the game to get fully stacked. Delaying that any more is no bueno.

  • SpectrumSpectrum Archer of Inferno Chaldea Rec RoomRegistered User regular
    Siv hearkening back to the good/bad old days of Philo stacking

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwh2WUFNrY&feature=em-uploademail

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  • credeikicredeiki Registered User regular
    ok, next time I play I am going to ban Kha'zix

    pretty done with games where I personally am up in cs and a kill or so but Kha'zix is 7/0 at 10 minutes and the team falls apart (plus he comes to eat my squishy support and there's nothing much I can do about that. Well, actually in those situations I am pretty sure I could go 1 for 1 a lot of the time, but I don't focus right and end up just getting 3 people low, so that is on me)

    it's been 3-4 losses in a row so I am a bit salty, especially because I have been shitting on my direct opponent in every single one

    oh well, gotta spam some more games, and eventually I will have a jungler who doesn't go 0/5+/whatever and starts spamming surrender votes

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  • Red RaevynRed Raevyn because I only take Bubble Baths Registered User regular
    Spectrum wrote: »
    Siv hearkening back to the good/bad old days of Philo stacking

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFwh2WUFNrY&feature=em-uploademail
    You too can try a goofy build like this: you only need 278 games worth of IP to buy the runes. With the generous fwotd bonus you just play 10 games a day for 25 days and you've got it, easy.

    One thing I do like about Siv is that he seems (at least edited) to have total immunity to caring about how the game is going. He's almost always got some awful score in the videos but he's just doing his own thing.

  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    ok, next time I play I am going to ban Kha'zix

    I keep forgetting to add him back into my roster. He's been strong for a while and would be a good replacement for Pantheon / Kindred / whoever else I've AD jungled. I was playing him some in Season...3? 4, maybe? It's been a while.

    LCS is back today. We'll see how all the changes shape the pro metas.

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  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Nocturne JG and MF support is back in EULCS.

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    Ivellius wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    ok, next time I play I am going to ban Kha'zix

    I keep forgetting to add him back into my roster. He's been strong for a while and would be a good replacement for Pantheon / Kindred / whoever else I've AD jungled. I was playing him some in Season...3? 4, maybe? It's been a while.

    LCS is back today. We'll see how all the changes shape the pro metas.

    LCK's been back for a few days. Bot lane Ziggs and support Malzahar are showing up, and those monsters are actually running Singed.

    Ivellius
  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    LCK's been back for a few days. Bot lane Ziggs and support Malzahar are showing up, and those monsters are actually running Singed.

    While this is true, I suspect LCS affects NA and EU metas a bit more. Having said that, I think streaming has become mainstream enough that we're starting to see these same kind of shifts even before pros play them, at least potentially.

    As a communication person, this kind of thing is really interesting to me, but I may be digressing a bit.

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  • Joe KJoe K Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    Ivellius wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    ok, next time I play I am going to ban Kha'zix

    I keep forgetting to add him back into my roster. He's been strong for a while and would be a good replacement for Pantheon / Kindred / whoever else I've AD jungled. I was playing him some in Season...3? 4, maybe? It's been a while.

    LCS is back today. We'll see how all the changes shape the pro metas.

    LCK's been back for a few days. Bot lane Ziggs and support Malzahar are showing up, and those monsters are actually running Singed.

    Are they doing triple dark seal start? It originated in Korea.

  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Okay, this is cool.

    The Big Ten (collegiate athletic conference) is starting a League season this spring: 12 teams (missing Penn State and Nebraska) competing in divisional play with a final championship to determine the conference winner. First game is January 30, and some of these will be broadcast on the conference TV channel.

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  • TcheldorTcheldor Registered User regular
    Joe K wrote: »
    Sprout wrote: »
    Ivellius wrote: »
    credeiki wrote: »
    ok, next time I play I am going to ban Kha'zix

    I keep forgetting to add him back into my roster. He's been strong for a while and would be a good replacement for Pantheon / Kindred / whoever else I've AD jungled. I was playing him some in Season...3? 4, maybe? It's been a while.

    LCS is back today. We'll see how all the changes shape the pro metas.

    LCK's been back for a few days. Bot lane Ziggs and support Malzahar are showing up, and those monsters are actually running Singed.

    Are they doing triple dark seal start? It originated in Korea.

    Yes

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  • Red RaevynRed Raevyn because I only take Bubble Baths Registered User regular
    edited January 2017
    Lunar Revel stuff is up. Free icon if you click here. Unfortunately it looks like rather than the customized discounts, we're going hard on gambling. Buy an envelope to get a random skin shard and trinket that when combined with other trinkets can give a random thing. :\

    I'm less excited for WK Vi than I was a few weeks ago because I can't play her! Having your favorite champion's ban rate spike really sucks. I need streamers to put out some videos with all caps titles saying she's bad or something.

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  • LoserForHireXLoserForHireX Philosopher King The AcademyRegistered User regular
    credeiki wrote: »
    ok, next time I play I am going to ban Kha'zix

    pretty done with games where I personally am up in cs and a kill or so but Kha'zix is 7/0 at 10 minutes and the team falls apart (plus he comes to eat my squishy support and there's nothing much I can do about that. Well, actually in those situations I am pretty sure I could go 1 for 1 a lot of the time, but I don't focus right and end up just getting 3 people low, so that is on me)

    it's been 3-4 losses in a row so I am a bit salty, especially because I have been shitting on my direct opponent in every single one

    oh well, gotta spam some more games, and eventually I will have a jungler who doesn't go 0/5+/whatever and starts spamming surrender votes

    I keep hoping that I can get a jungle who doesn't get totally shit on and actually manages to gank

    these days it's just so important to have a good jungler that if you don't have one and the other team does it doesn't matter if they have a weak lane on their team

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  • IvelliusIvellius Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »

    I was totally going to make a comment about staying away from MF Supports, but uh yeah I clicked on the link

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  • Moridin889Moridin889 Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »

    My problem is Zyras that think they are initiators and don't just murder people who come at them. Support zyras who want 2v2 murderlanes but forget that everyone but sona has more health.

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  • SproutSprout Registered User regular
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    Sprout wrote: »

    My problem is Zyras that think they are initiators and don't just murder people who come at them. Support zyras who want 2v2 murderlanes but forget that everyone but sona has more health.

    Yeah, you gotta hang back, stick and move. Your shit has redonk range and if they move on you, that's what your ult is for.

    I think I got 3 kills in that game on champs I didn't even have on screen that my plants murdered.

  • Red RaevynRed Raevyn because I only take Bubble Baths Registered User regular
    Sprout wrote: »
    From game 1 of G2 v FNC today (match results history link spoiler alert)

  • Hiryu02Hiryu02 Registered User regular
    Man, the new WK skins are so dope now. Meanwhile WK Jarvan still doesn't have a recall animation. Gonna have to pick up Garen and Vi. Maybe Riven?

    Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
  • PenumbraPenumbra Registered User regular
    Hiryu02 wrote: »
    Man, the new WK skins are so dope now. Meanwhile WK Jarvan still doesn't have a recall animation. Gonna have to pick up Garen and Vi. Maybe Riven?

    I dig WK Vi, but since I have officer Vi, I'd just be wasting money.

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  • LoserForHireXLoserForHireX Philosopher King The AcademyRegistered User regular
    Moridin889 wrote: »
    Sprout wrote: »

    My problem is Zyras that think they are initiators and don't just murder people who come at them. Support zyras who want 2v2 murderlanes but forget that everyone but sona has more health.

    Yeah, I mean, you can initiate with Zyra, but it's like initiating with a Morg binding. You are just locking someone down so that the rest of your team can blow them up. You aren't a front line getting in the shit kind of character

    Zyra is the queen of the counter initiate to me. When they force a fight you drop some plants and your strangethorn. Now they are no longer happy with having forced that fight

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