Cyborg looked terrible. Every time he was on screen I had this huge sense of uncanny valley.
Other than that though, it didn't look bad. There wasn't anything I was excited about, but I think that's more because of the pall that WB has over these films right now rather than what was actually in the trailer. I think if we didn't have the debacle that was BvS, I'd be cautiously excited right now.
He appears to be visiting someone in prison. I don't know much about Barry Allen's parents, but is the movie ripping off the TV show?
Aquaman seemed a little too much.
Barry Allen
His father goes to jail for the murder of his mother, but he's innocent. Barry's nemesis, the Reverse Flash, goes back in time from the far future and murders her. The CW Flash does a good job of covering the story, and the point of putting that one scene in the trailer is to put us at a point in time for Flash's story.
He appears to be visiting someone in prison. I don't know much about Barry Allen's parents, but is the movie ripping off the TV show?
Aquaman seemed a little too much.
Barry Allen
His father goes to jail for the murder of his mother, but he's innocent. Barry's nemesis, the Reverse Flash, goes back in time from the far future and murders her. The CW Flash does a good job of covering the story, and the point of putting that one scene in the trailer is to put us at a point in time for Flash's story.
Ok, so it's always been part of his backstory. Didn't know that.
Blue filter still paints the world in darkness; I realize this is a "stylistic" choice, but it continues to look bad.
We'll be getting some (if not all) of Cyborg (Victor Stone)'s backstory. Athlete, father's a scientist, we see a motherbox looking like it's about to explode and a parademon. That's his classic origin; shit goes wrong, gets machine parts to replace the human bits that don't work. It looks like it's everything but his head, though, which... well, I think less would be more in this case.
We also see a bit of Arthur's backstory; a flash of Mera (his partner/wife, depending on when they set this).
And a touchstone for Barry, him visiting his father in prison. For a second, I thought it was Bruce Campbell ... which would have been rad, actually.
Ah, so we're sticking with psychotic rich guy beats up criminals for fun?
"What are your superpowers again?"
"I'm rich."
It's a bit on the nose.
Jason Momoa seems super enthusiastic during most of his scenes, he's emoting well.
I saw BvS and SS in theaters, I'll probably see this one too. I'm expecting it'll be terrible.
I wonder how many times they're going to remind the audience that the city is totally empty because the work day is over and everyone went home, so there's absolutely no one in the streets or in all those buildings they're blowing up.
He appears to be visiting someone in prison. I don't know much about Barry Allen's parents, but is the movie ripping off the TV show?
Aquaman seemed a little too much.
Barry Allen
His father goes to jail for the murder of his mother, but he's innocent. Barry's nemesis, the Reverse Flash, goes back in time from the far future and murders her. The CW Flash does a good job of covering the story, and the point of putting that one scene in the trailer is to put us at a point in time for Flash's story.
Ok, so it's always been part of his backstory. Didn't know that.
Eh, "always" in this case means the last like decade or whatever. Established in one of the many DC reboots.
The trailer has this... Truck commercial quality to it.
I expect to see a new Jeep ad soon. Something something Ready something something United *cut to various colors of same Jeep* buy a Jeep.
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I think it looks good. Nothing more than that, it's a generic team-up, but I like the Flash fight design (a little bit like Quicksilver's from X-Men), but if they just make fights as good as BvS that's all they need to get a ticket purchase out of me, and a little bit lighter Bruce is in keeping with where he is right now in the comics so I'm fine with that. Aquaman might be hit or miss, might steer too close into Drax territory but he's the style at the time.
Cyborg looks bad. It doesn't look motion captured with the guy playing Vic in the suit, just someone doing the suit stuff and him trying to copy it on another screen to cut and paste his face where appropriate.
There appears to be a lot of backstory in that trailer, which is alarming because a) they are gonna try to cram all that in and b) it's almost certainly gonna be styled like the videos we saw in BvS
There's something about the CG that... itches. Like I'm acutely aware these are people standing in front of a green screen. Marvel movies have done this too, especially the really fantastical ones like Doctor Strange. I dunno though, it just feels more pronounced here. Might be because like many other people, I'm looking at this from a lens of skepticism and not pure excitement.
Jason Momoa seems like he's just playing Ronon from Stargate Atlantis here, but that's hardly a bad thing.
"The sausage of Green Earth explodes with flavor like the cannon of culinary delight."
I'm well past giving these things the benefit of the doubt, but. That don't look so bad.
I mean Cyborg looks terrible.
And the sudden gear shift to jokes jokes jokes is on the nose.
But yeh, looks cool.
As I said before, this is going to make JL the most awkward and uneven of the movies. It's going to be a poorly implemented bandaid to all the criticisms, an attempt to say "Look, we aren't all darkness! Look at all these JOKES!". The last desperate cry from a dying concept.
At least that's what I'm hoping. I know I'm not going to get much agreement here, but if JL really did do bad enough that we would get the hard reboot we're all hoping for, I honestly want it to be a complete reboot. In other words, I don't want any of the actors to return. I know Affleck, Gadot and Cavill had the potential, but there's been so much shit that's taitned that talent that I would much prefer they start over and leave nothing that reminds me of the disaster that is DCCU.
Sony took the lumps when they did this with Spider-Man, but jokes aside, it paid off. I'm significantly more interested in the next Spidey movie than I've been with the character in a long time. His appearance in Civil War alone was enough to restore a lot of goodwill, so I feel real optimistic that the gamble paid off.
I wonder how many times they're going to remind the audience that the city is totally empty because the work day is over and everyone went home, so there's absolutely no one in the streets or in all those buildings they're blowing up.
Since Batman is super rich, always plans ahead and with what happened in Gothampolis; he's built several cities in unpopulated areas around the world. Or Flash goes and starts picking people up and when the people start thanking him he's going to get a whole lot of confidence and enjoy being a superhero cause he didn't have a lot of friends or whatever. That thus that character arc is resolved AND people can say "The Flash did it!" from now on. He probably did it in BvS.
It seems very, very busy, worse even than BvS in that regard. Are they really going to do the resurrection of Superman in this one too, or will that wait for Part 2 (if it ever comes?)
There's things I like about the justice league trailers; I like that the general concept seems to be everybody kinda poking fun at Bruce for being a big downer all the time. Their music choices are if not inspired at least upbeat. The lighting is still kinda grimdarky looks less so that BvS
I dunno, you can kinda squint at it and see a good movie, but it probably won't be
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There's things I like about the justice league trailers; I like that the general concept seems to be everybody kinda poking fun at Bruce for being a big downer all the time. Their music choices are if not inspired at least upbeat. The lighting is still kinda grimdarky looks less so that BvS
I dunno, you can kinda squint at it and see a good movie, but it probably won't be
All of DC's trailers have looked good.
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Suicide Squad looked pretty bad from the get go, non? Then they cranked out the Bohemian Rhapsody trailer later.
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This is your semi-annual reminder that the Man of Steel trailer is so good, as a 3 minute short film it's the best Superman movie ever made:
There's things I like about the justice league trailers; I like that the general concept seems to be everybody kinda poking fun at Bruce for being a big downer all the time. Their music choices are if not inspired at least upbeat. The lighting is still kinda grimdarky looks less so that BvS
I dunno, you can kinda squint at it and see a good movie, but it probably won't be
All of DC's trailers have looked good.
BvS's first trailer openly gave us the line "Do you bleed? You will".
The opening bit of the trailer with the mountains and all reminded me of the baffling bits of both Man of Steel AND BvS where Superman goes on a sojourn to a naturescape and... imagines things? Like... fake conversations with dead people mostly? No idea why we're STILL doing this, but I guess we are. I will say, this mostly off brand take on the JL couldn't be a better fit for the shitty shit shit New 52 Justice League backstory Geoff Johns cooked up in Justice League War. So that's a point in their favor. Versus BvS reaching for Dark Knight Returns, Red Son (in one sequence only), and Death of Superman and fumbling all three at once.
The opening bit of the trailer with the mountains and all reminded me of the baffling bits of both Man of Steel AND BvS where Superman goes on a sojourn to a naturescape and... imagines things? Like... fake conversations with dead people mostly? No idea why we're STILL doing this, but I guess we are. I will say, this mostly off brand take on the JL couldn't be a better fit for the shitty shit shit New 52 Justice League backstory Geoff Johns cooked up in Justice League War. So that's a point in their favor. Versus BvS reaching for Dark Knight Returns, Red Son (in one sequence only), and Death of Superman and fumbling all three at once.
Maybe this is me being pessimistic, but I feel like it's a naked attempt to invoke the opening act of Batman Begins.
The CGI however is terrible and seems rushed, which is bad because the villains look to be entirely CGI. Cyborg is the biggest offender here.
The demons looked better in Batman vs Superman, so I kinda expected the same or better in this trailer...
I'm seeing the crapiness of the CGI excused as "It'll be fixed by the time of release!". Yeah, if you can't put finished product in the trailer, or can't focus the CGI efforts for trailer specific purposes, that just shows a level of amateurishness that shouldn't be glossed over.
ESPECIALLY when WBDC have lost all benefit of the doubt. When they show an unprofessional trailer, I'm not going to expect more until they prove they're capable of it. 7/19 adequate or better since Keaton's Batman (5 Batman's, Watchmen, and Constantine, yeah, I know, but I liked it). 0/3 under current management.
Even if the trailer was flawless, I'd still be skeptical until I saw the movie. But as KingofMadCows said on the previous page, Sigh... borg (stealing it!) shows they're not even deserving of that.
The opening bit of the trailer with the mountains and all reminded me of the baffling bits of both Man of Steel AND BvS where Superman goes on a sojourn to a naturescape and... imagines things? Like... fake conversations with dead people mostly? No idea why we're STILL doing this, but I guess we are. I will say, this mostly off brand take on the JL couldn't be a better fit for the shitty shit shit New 52 Justice League backstory Geoff Johns cooked up in Justice League War. So that's a point in their favor. Versus BvS reaching for Dark Knight Returns, Red Son (in one sequence only), and Death of Superman and fumbling all three at once.
The opening bit of the trailer with the mountains made me wonder why the fuck billionaire Bruce Wayne riding horseback to a coastal town. Pretty sure he's got a damn yacht or seven. But I guess that would be too much like Tony Stark. Sailing up to a small town in a huge boat, looking for one guy. Nope, gotta take the long way through rugged terrain, probably for that Jeep ad, camp out for a day and then ride into town from the area where few actually go.
The opening bit of the trailer with the mountains and all reminded me of the baffling bits of both Man of Steel AND BvS where Superman goes on a sojourn to a naturescape and... imagines things? Like... fake conversations with dead people mostly? No idea why we're STILL doing this, but I guess we are. I will say, this mostly off brand take on the JL couldn't be a better fit for the shitty shit shit New 52 Justice League backstory Geoff Johns cooked up in Justice League War. So that's a point in their favor. Versus BvS reaching for Dark Knight Returns, Red Son (in one sequence only), and Death of Superman and fumbling all three at once.
The opening bit of the trailer with the mountains made me wonder why the fuck billionaire Bruce Wayne riding horseback to a coastal town. Pretty sure he's got a damn yacht or seven. But I guess that would be too much like Tony Stark. Sailing up to a small town in a huge boat, looking for one guy. Nope, gotta take the long way through rugged terrain, probably for that Jeep ad, camp out for a day and then ride into town from the area where few actually go.
Feeds into the image of Snyder's Batman being a rugged individual, in contrast to that coastal elite Tony Stark.
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Other than that though, it didn't look bad. There wasn't anything I was excited about, but I think that's more because of the pall that WB has over these films right now rather than what was actually in the trailer. I think if we didn't have the debacle that was BvS, I'd be cautiously excited right now.
Good editing and choice of music, though.
Aquaman seemed a little too much.
Like I said, Lobo (what I know of him) came to mind for some odd reason.
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Ok, so it's always been part of his backstory. Didn't know that.
We'll be getting some (if not all) of Cyborg (Victor Stone)'s backstory. Athlete, father's a scientist, we see a motherbox looking like it's about to explode and a parademon. That's his classic origin; shit goes wrong, gets machine parts to replace the human bits that don't work. It looks like it's everything but his head, though, which... well, I think less would be more in this case.
We also see a bit of Arthur's backstory; a flash of Mera (his partner/wife, depending on when they set this).
And a touchstone for Barry, him visiting his father in prison. For a second, I thought it was Bruce Campbell
Ah, so we're sticking with psychotic rich guy beats up criminals for fun?
"What are your superpowers again?"
"I'm rich."
It's a bit on the nose.
Jason Momoa seems super enthusiastic during most of his scenes, he's emoting well.
I saw BvS and SS in theaters, I'll probably see this one too. I'm expecting it'll be terrible.
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I expect to see a new Jeep ad soon. Something something Ready something something United *cut to various colors of same Jeep* buy a Jeep.
Cyborg looks bad. It doesn't look motion captured with the guy playing Vic in the suit, just someone doing the suit stuff and him trying to copy it on another screen to cut and paste his face where appropriate.
Jason Momoa seems like he's just playing Ronon from Stargate Atlantis here, but that's hardly a bad thing.
As I said before, this is going to make JL the most awkward and uneven of the movies. It's going to be a poorly implemented bandaid to all the criticisms, an attempt to say "Look, we aren't all darkness! Look at all these JOKES!". The last desperate cry from a dying concept.
At least that's what I'm hoping. I know I'm not going to get much agreement here, but if JL really did do bad enough that we would get the hard reboot we're all hoping for, I honestly want it to be a complete reboot. In other words, I don't want any of the actors to return. I know Affleck, Gadot and Cavill had the potential, but there's been so much shit that's taitned that talent that I would much prefer they start over and leave nothing that reminds me of the disaster that is DCCU.
Sony took the lumps when they did this with Spider-Man, but jokes aside, it paid off. I'm significantly more interested in the next Spidey movie than I've been with the character in a long time. His appearance in Civil War alone was enough to restore a lot of goodwill, so I feel real optimistic that the gamble paid off.
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Since Batman is super rich, always plans ahead and with what happened in Gothampolis; he's built several cities in unpopulated areas around the world. Or Flash goes and starts picking people up and when the people start thanking him he's going to get a whole lot of confidence and enjoy being a superhero cause he didn't have a lot of friends or whatever. That thus that character arc is resolved AND people can say "The Flash did it!" from now on. He probably did it in BvS.
Actually I found that this trailer came over way less grimdark than the movies before
I dunno, to me it feels like a grim dark trailer recut at the last minute to a more cheerful song...
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I dunno, you can kinda squint at it and see a good movie, but it probably won't be
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All of DC's trailers have looked good.
And then the full movie was garbage. Trailers mean nothing.
BvS's first trailer openly gave us the line "Do you bleed? You will".
If you thought that looked good its on you.
Whoops. I meant the color palette. I agree that it's less grim.
Say what you will about Hans Zimmer, but his idea of a Superman theme was a small town marching band and it's fucking perfect
Maybe this is me being pessimistic, but I feel like it's a naked attempt to invoke the opening act of Batman Begins.
On behalf of John Williams, I will fight you.
The CGI however is terrible and seems rushed, which is bad because the villains look to be entirely CGI. Cyborg is the biggest offender here.
The demons looked better in Batman vs Superman, so I kinda expected the same or better in this trailer...
ESPECIALLY when WBDC have lost all benefit of the doubt. When they show an unprofessional trailer, I'm not going to expect more until they prove they're capable of it. 7/19 adequate or better since Keaton's Batman (5 Batman's, Watchmen, and Constantine, yeah, I know, but I liked it). 0/3 under current management.
Even if the trailer was flawless, I'd still be skeptical until I saw the movie. But as KingofMadCows said on the previous page, Sigh... borg (stealing it!) shows they're not even deserving of that.
The opening bit of the trailer with the mountains made me wonder why the fuck billionaire Bruce Wayne riding horseback to a coastal town. Pretty sure he's got a damn yacht or seven. But I guess that would be too much like Tony Stark. Sailing up to a small town in a huge boat, looking for one guy. Nope, gotta take the long way through rugged terrain, probably for that Jeep ad, camp out for a day and then ride into town from the area where few actually go.
Feeds into the image of Snyder's Batman being a rugged individual, in contrast to that coastal elite Tony Stark.